Quote from user: Baar Baar JinxI just realized that I've never read a story with Gideon, and don't even know what he looks like. Strangely enough, googling him brings up no images. Can someone post a link to a picture of him?
Gedeone de' Paperoni
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Topic: Uncle Scrooge has a brother!!!
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Arild
Uncle Scrooge has a brother!!!
Message 16 -
2012-04-10 at 00:46:42
Sim
Uncle Scrooge has a brother!!!
Message 17 -
2012-04-10 at 10:31:41
Quote from user: Baar Baar JinxQuote from user: Roger NorthYes I mean Gideon and Rumpus.
Well, Scrooge and Rumpus were not raised as brothers, so the above reference must be to this Gideon person!
I just realized that I've never read a story with Gideon, and don't even know what he looks like. Strangely enough, googling him brings up no images. Can someone post a link to a picture of him?
This is a page from Gideon's first story:
http://www.papersera.net/immagini/speciale/cammari/652631306.jpg
Quote from user: Baar Baar JinxAlso, Grandma seems to have been redesigned somewhat in that strip. Did Taliaferro use this version of her (smaller eyes, different hairstyle) a lot?
No. This strip is from 1966 and Taliaferro didn't draw Grandma since 1956 and, in that period, she looked like this:
http://coa.inducks.org/hr.php?image=http://outducks.org/us/zz/yd/1956/us_zz1956l05d_001.png&normalsize=1
Well, Scrooge and Rumpus were not raised as brothers, so the above reference must be to this Gideon person!
I just realized that I've never read a story with Gideon, and don't even know what he looks like. Strangely enough, googling him brings up no images. Can someone post a link to a picture of him?
This is a page from Gideon's first story:
http://www.papersera.net/immagini/speciale/cammari/652631306.jpg
Quote from user: Baar Baar JinxAlso, Grandma seems to have been redesigned somewhat in that strip. Did Taliaferro use this version of her (smaller eyes, different hairstyle) a lot?
No. This strip is from 1966 and Taliaferro didn't draw Grandma since 1956 and, in that period, she looked like this:
http://coa.inducks.org/hr.php?image=http://outducks.org/us/zz/yd/1956/us_zz1956l05d_001.png&normalsize=1
Sirredknee
Uncle Scrooge has a brother!!!
Message 18 -
2012-04-10 at 11:18:46
That must be a different character than Grandma. Why should Taliaferro change his own creation's appearance THAT much? It's not even implied the old lady is related to Donald, she just knows his family history well.
As for Gedeone it just strikes me he must have been the first recurring male Duck character to wear shoes!
As for Gedeone it just strikes me he must have been the first recurring male Duck character to wear shoes!
Sim
Uncle Scrooge has a brother!!!
Message 19 -
2012-04-10 at 11:28:45
Quote from user: sirredkneeThat must be a different character than Grandma. Why should Taliaferro change his own creation's appearance THAT much? It's not even implied the old lady is related to Donald, she just knows his family history well.
I don't if that character is Grandma Duck. Taliaferro probably drew her in another way after ten years! Don't forget Daisy and Gladstone from Barks' last story.
Quote from user: sirredkneeAs for Gedeone it just strikes me he must have been the first recurring male Duck character to wear shoes!
What about Gyro Gearloose?
I don't if that character is Grandma Duck. Taliaferro probably drew her in another way after ten years! Don't forget Daisy and Gladstone from Barks' last story.
Quote from user: sirredkneeAs for Gedeone it just strikes me he must have been the first recurring male Duck character to wear shoes!
What about Gyro Gearloose?
Baar Baar Jinx
Uncle Scrooge has a brother!!!
Message 20 -
2012-04-10 at 16:34:37
Quote from user: sirredkneeThat must be a different character than Grandma. Why should Taliaferro change his own creation's appearance THAT much? It's not even implied the old lady is related to Donald, she just knows his family history well.
She looks enough like Grandma for me to accept that it's supposed to be her, and all characters do evolve as the years go by, even when drawn by the same artist. But does she look like that in all the strips around that time period, or was this an isolated aberration?
Quote from user: SimThis is a page from Gideon's first story:
http://www.papersera.net/immagini/speciale/cammari/652631306.jpg
Interesting. I don't think we'll ever see that story in the US, even if we ever get another publisher, since this version of the Duck family tree doesn't gel with Rosa's. Are Scrooge and Gideon on good terms? Did Gideon follow Scrooge to the US from Scotland? Is he supposd to be much younger than Scrooge?
Quote from user: SimThis strip is from 1966 and Taliaferro didn't draw Grandma since 1956 and, in that period, she looked like this:
http://coa.inducks.org/hr.php?image=http://outducks.org/us/zz/yd/1956/us_zz1956l05d_001.png&normalsize=1
Do you mean that Grandma disappeared from the strip for ten years? Was that first 1966 strip that was posted her first appearance in a decade, then? It looks like Taliaferro believes Grandma raised Donald, based on the 1956 strip. Which leads me to ask, although Rosa doesn't believe it to be so, did Taliaferro ever hint that he believed Grandma to be Donald's mother?
Quote from user: SimDon't forget Daisy and Gladstone from Barks' last story.
I must be missing something. Did Barks draw Daisy and Gladstone differently in his last story?
She looks enough like Grandma for me to accept that it's supposed to be her, and all characters do evolve as the years go by, even when drawn by the same artist. But does she look like that in all the strips around that time period, or was this an isolated aberration?
Quote from user: SimThis is a page from Gideon's first story:
http://www.papersera.net/immagini/speciale/cammari/652631306.jpg
Interesting. I don't think we'll ever see that story in the US, even if we ever get another publisher, since this version of the Duck family tree doesn't gel with Rosa's. Are Scrooge and Gideon on good terms? Did Gideon follow Scrooge to the US from Scotland? Is he supposd to be much younger than Scrooge?
Quote from user: SimThis strip is from 1966 and Taliaferro didn't draw Grandma since 1956 and, in that period, she looked like this:
http://coa.inducks.org/hr.php?image=http://outducks.org/us/zz/yd/1956/us_zz1956l05d_001.png&normalsize=1
Do you mean that Grandma disappeared from the strip for ten years? Was that first 1966 strip that was posted her first appearance in a decade, then? It looks like Taliaferro believes Grandma raised Donald, based on the 1956 strip. Which leads me to ask, although Rosa doesn't believe it to be so, did Taliaferro ever hint that he believed Grandma to be Donald's mother?
Quote from user: SimDon't forget Daisy and Gladstone from Barks' last story.
I must be missing something. Did Barks draw Daisy and Gladstone differently in his last story?
Sim
Uncle Scrooge has a brother!!!
Message 21 -
2012-04-10 at 17:10:58
Quote from user: Baar Baar JinxQuote from user: sirredkneeThat must be a different character than Grandma. Why should Taliaferro change his own creation's appearance THAT much? It's not even implied the old lady is related to Donald, she just knows his family history well.
She looks enough like Grandma for me to accept that it's supposed to be her, and all characters do evolve as the years go by, even when drawn by the same artist. But does she look like that in all the strips around that time period, or was this an isolated aberration?
Isolated.
Quote from user: Baar Baar JinxQuote from user: SimThis is a page from Gideon's first story:
http://www.papersera.net/immagini/speciale/cammari/652631306.jpg
Interesting. I don't think we'll ever see that story in the US, even if we ever get another publisher, since this version of the Duck family tree doesn't gel with Rosa's. Are Scrooge and Gideon on good terms? Did Gideon follow Scrooge to the US from Scotland? Is he supposd to be much younger than Scrooge?
They are not very "friend" in the first story -- But they are brothers! Although Scarpa (nor anybody else) never clarified it, Gideon is supposed to be younger than Scrooge and only his half-brother.
Quote from user: Baar Baar JinxQuote from user: SimThis strip is from 1966 and Taliaferro didn't draw Grandma since 1956 and, in that period, she looked like this:
http://coa.inducks.org/hr.php?image=http://outducks.org/us/zz/yd/1956/us_zz1956l05d_001.png&normalsize=1
Do you mean that Grandma disappeared from the strip for ten years? Was that first 1966 strip that was posted her first appearance in a decade, then? It looks like Taliaferro believes Grandma raised Donald, based on the 1956 strip. Which leads me to ask, although Rosa doesn't believe it to be so, did Taliaferro ever hint that he believed Grandma to be Donald's mother?
Grandma Duck's last appearance in Taliaferro's strips was that in 1966, he drew her in 1956 beforwards and then nevermore for 10 years!
Quote from user: Baar Baar JinxQuote from user: SimDon't forget Daisy and Gladstone from Barks' last story.
I must be missing something. Did Barks draw Daisy and Gladstone differently in his last story?
http://www.cbarks.dk/Digital/gla196725.JPG
Gladstone
http://coa.inducks.org/hr.php?normalsize=1&image=http://outducks.org/webusers/webusers-char/us_wdc_442_01_005_da.jpg
Daisy
She looks enough like Grandma for me to accept that it's supposed to be her, and all characters do evolve as the years go by, even when drawn by the same artist. But does she look like that in all the strips around that time period, or was this an isolated aberration?
Isolated.
Quote from user: Baar Baar JinxQuote from user: SimThis is a page from Gideon's first story:
http://www.papersera.net/immagini/speciale/cammari/652631306.jpg
Interesting. I don't think we'll ever see that story in the US, even if we ever get another publisher, since this version of the Duck family tree doesn't gel with Rosa's. Are Scrooge and Gideon on good terms? Did Gideon follow Scrooge to the US from Scotland? Is he supposd to be much younger than Scrooge?
They are not very "friend" in the first story -- But they are brothers! Although Scarpa (nor anybody else) never clarified it, Gideon is supposed to be younger than Scrooge and only his half-brother.
Quote from user: Baar Baar JinxQuote from user: SimThis strip is from 1966 and Taliaferro didn't draw Grandma since 1956 and, in that period, she looked like this:
http://coa.inducks.org/hr.php?image=http://outducks.org/us/zz/yd/1956/us_zz1956l05d_001.png&normalsize=1
Do you mean that Grandma disappeared from the strip for ten years? Was that first 1966 strip that was posted her first appearance in a decade, then? It looks like Taliaferro believes Grandma raised Donald, based on the 1956 strip. Which leads me to ask, although Rosa doesn't believe it to be so, did Taliaferro ever hint that he believed Grandma to be Donald's mother?
Grandma Duck's last appearance in Taliaferro's strips was that in 1966, he drew her in 1956 beforwards and then nevermore for 10 years!
Quote from user: Baar Baar JinxQuote from user: SimDon't forget Daisy and Gladstone from Barks' last story.
I must be missing something. Did Barks draw Daisy and Gladstone differently in his last story?
http://www.cbarks.dk/Digital/gla196725.JPG
Gladstone
http://coa.inducks.org/hr.php?normalsize=1&image=http://outducks.org/webusers/webusers-char/us_wdc_442_01_005_da.jpg
Daisy
Ryan_Wynns
Uncle Scrooge has a brother!!!
Message 22 -
2012-04-10 at 17:32:36
Quote from user: SimI think we MUST consider Taliaferro as canonical as Barks if not more.
I can understand why you would say that for Donald and the nephews, since Taliaferro was regularly working on the strips before Barks was on the comics. But when it comes to Scrooge, Barks' creation, why would we consider Taliaferro more canonical?
I can understand why you would say that for Donald and the nephews, since Taliaferro was regularly working on the strips before Barks was on the comics. But when it comes to Scrooge, Barks' creation, why would we consider Taliaferro more canonical?
Lars Jensen
Uncle Scrooge has a brother!!!
Message 23 -
2012-04-10 at 18:13:05
Quote from user: SimAlthough Scarpa (nor anybody else) never clarified it, Gideon is supposed to be younger than Scrooge and only his half-brother.
If Scarpa never clarified this, then how do you know?!?
Quote from user: SimQuote from user: Baar Baar JinxDid Barks draw Daisy and Gladstone differently in his last story?
Gladstone
Daisy
Those panels are from http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=W+WDC+312-01 . Which is not Barks' last story.
In fact, the last time Barks drew Daisy was (as far as I can determine) in http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=W+WDCD++5-12 , where she very much looks like herself. ;)
If Scarpa never clarified this, then how do you know?!?
Quote from user: SimQuote from user: Baar Baar JinxDid Barks draw Daisy and Gladstone differently in his last story?
Gladstone
Daisy
Those panels are from http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=W+WDC+312-01 . Which is not Barks' last story.
In fact, the last time Barks drew Daisy was (as far as I can determine) in http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=W+WDCD++5-12 , where she very much looks like herself. ;)
Sim
Uncle Scrooge has a brother!!!
Message 24 -
2012-04-10 at 18:46:51
Quote from user: Lars JensenQuote from user: SimAlthough Scarpa (nor anybody else) never clarified it, Gideon is supposed to be younger than Scrooge and only his half-brother.
If Scarpa never clarified this, then how do you know?!?
Fans' suppositions I think.
Quote from user: Lars JensenQuote from user: SimQuote from user: Baar Baar JinxDid Barks draw Daisy and Gladstone differently in his last story?
Gladstone
Daisy
Those panels are from http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=W+WDC+312-01 . Which is not Barks' last story.
In fact, the last time Barks drew Daisy was (as far as I can determine) in http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=W+WDCD++5-12 , where she very much looks like herself. ;)
Yes, that is his real LAST story, eh eh! ;)
Quote from user: Ryan_WynnsQuote from user: SimI think we MUST consider Taliaferro as canonical as Barks if not more.
I can understand why you would say that for Donald and the nephews, since Taliaferro was regularly working on the strips before Barks was on the comics. But when it comes to Scrooge, Barks' creation, why would we consider Taliaferro more canonical?
Taliaferro is da Big Boss! ;)
If Scarpa never clarified this, then how do you know?!?
Fans' suppositions I think.
Quote from user: Lars JensenQuote from user: SimQuote from user: Baar Baar JinxDid Barks draw Daisy and Gladstone differently in his last story?
Gladstone
Daisy
Those panels are from http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=W+WDC+312-01 . Which is not Barks' last story.
In fact, the last time Barks drew Daisy was (as far as I can determine) in http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=W+WDCD++5-12 , where she very much looks like herself. ;)
Yes, that is his real LAST story, eh eh! ;)
Quote from user: Ryan_WynnsQuote from user: SimI think we MUST consider Taliaferro as canonical as Barks if not more.
I can understand why you would say that for Donald and the nephews, since Taliaferro was regularly working on the strips before Barks was on the comics. But when it comes to Scrooge, Barks' creation, why would we consider Taliaferro more canonical?
Taliaferro is da Big Boss! ;)
Lars Jensen
Uncle Scrooge has a brother!!!
Message 25 -
2012-04-10 at 19:00:19
Quote from user: SimQuote from user: Lars JensenQuote from user: SimAlthough Scarpa (nor anybody else) never clarified it, Gideon is supposed to be younger than Scrooge and only his half-brother.
If Scarpa never clarified this, then how do you know?!?
Fans' suppositions I think.
OK. I didn't realize Gedeone being Scrooge's younger half-brother was fanfic.
Quote from user: SimYes, that is his real LAST story, eh eh! ;)
No, it's the last full story Barks drew. He wrote several stories after having drawn "The Dainty Daredevil".
If Scarpa never clarified this, then how do you know?!?
Fans' suppositions I think.
OK. I didn't realize Gedeone being Scrooge's younger half-brother was fanfic.
Quote from user: SimYes, that is his real LAST story, eh eh! ;)
No, it's the last full story Barks drew. He wrote several stories after having drawn "The Dainty Daredevil".
Sim
Uncle Scrooge has a brother!!!
Message 26 -
2012-04-10 at 19:13:39
Quote from user: Lars JensenQuote from user: SimQuote from user: Lars JensenIf Scarpa never clarified this, then how do you know?!?
Fans' suppositions I think.
OK. I didn't realize Gedeone being Scrooge's younger half-brother was fanfic.
As far as I know, it has never been told in any story.
In this panel, we can see young Scrooge and Gideon with their elder sister (I really don't know wether she is Grandma Duck or not):
http://www.papersera.net/public_html2/yabbfiles/Attachments/I_PM__187-2.jpg
Quote from user: Lars JensenQuote from user: SimYes, that is his real LAST story, eh eh! ;)
No, it's the last full story Barks drew. He wrote several stories after having drawn "The Dainty Daredevil".
Yes, I know. Barks wrote a lot of JW stories drawn by Wright, Strobl, Jippes, etc...
Fans' suppositions I think.
OK. I didn't realize Gedeone being Scrooge's younger half-brother was fanfic.
As far as I know, it has never been told in any story.
In this panel, we can see young Scrooge and Gideon with their elder sister (I really don't know wether she is Grandma Duck or not):
http://www.papersera.net/public_html2/yabbfiles/Attachments/I_PM__187-2.jpg
Quote from user: Lars JensenQuote from user: SimYes, that is his real LAST story, eh eh! ;)
No, it's the last full story Barks drew. He wrote several stories after having drawn "The Dainty Daredevil".
Yes, I know. Barks wrote a lot of JW stories drawn by Wright, Strobl, Jippes, etc...
Roger North
Uncle Scrooge has a brother!!!
Message 27 -
2012-04-10 at 22:32:55
Was it really fan fiction? I thought it was officially canon.
Furienna
Uncle Scrooge has a brother!!!
Message 28 -
2012-04-11 at 11:39:16
What canon? Because different artists have different storylines.
I'm interested in seeing this thread though, because I wrote a fanfic about a niece of Scrooge McDuck: Darlene McDuck. And since her last name is "McDuck", I guess Scrooge must have had a brother, who was her father. I settled for Gideon, even though I've never heard a story about him, and I had even forgotten his name.
I'm interested in seeing this thread though, because I wrote a fanfic about a niece of Scrooge McDuck: Darlene McDuck. And since her last name is "McDuck", I guess Scrooge must have had a brother, who was her father. I settled for Gideon, even though I've never heard a story about him, and I had even forgotten his name.
Lars Jensen
Uncle Scrooge has a brother!!!
Message 29 -
2012-04-11 at 13:47:28
Quote from user: Roger NorthWas it really fan fiction? I thought it was officially canon.
Roger, according to Romano Scarpa and several others it's a fact that Scrooge has a brother named Gedeone. The information Sim gave us about Gedeone being Scrooge's younger half-brother seems to be fanfic, however.
Roger, according to Romano Scarpa and several others it's a fact that Scrooge has a brother named Gedeone. The information Sim gave us about Gedeone being Scrooge's younger half-brother seems to be fanfic, however.
Sim
Uncle Scrooge has a brother!!!
Message 30 -
2012-04-11 at 15:40:18
Quote from user: FuriennaI'm interested in seeing this thread though, because I wrote a fanfic about a niece of Scrooge McDuck: Darlene McDuck. And since her last name is "McDuck", I guess Scrooge must have had a brother, who was her father. I settled for Gideon, even though I've never heard a story about him, and I had even forgotten his name.
I remember an user of Papersera forum created a family for Gideon, including a male child named "Alessandrino de' Paperoni" (Wee Alex McDuck).
Quote from user: Lars JensenQuote from user: Roger NorthWas it really fan fiction? I thought it was officially canon.
Roger, according to Romano Scarpa and several others it's a fact that Scrooge has a brother named Gedeone. The information Sim gave us about Gedeone being Scrooge's younger half-brother seems to be fanfic, however.
I never read a story in which Gideon is told to be younger than Scrooge or just his half-brother. The same name Gideon is a fan name based on the "translation" of the Italian Gedeone.
I remember an user of Papersera forum created a family for Gideon, including a male child named "Alessandrino de' Paperoni" (Wee Alex McDuck).
Quote from user: Lars JensenQuote from user: Roger NorthWas it really fan fiction? I thought it was officially canon.
Roger, according to Romano Scarpa and several others it's a fact that Scrooge has a brother named Gedeone. The information Sim gave us about Gedeone being Scrooge's younger half-brother seems to be fanfic, however.
I never read a story in which Gideon is told to be younger than Scrooge or just his half-brother. The same name Gideon is a fan name based on the "translation" of the Italian Gedeone.