Well, sort of.
Link: http://www.comicsbeat.com/2012/05/30/is-disney-publishing-chaos-leaving-an-ike-shaped-hole/
From the blog post...
Quote:What does this have to do with comics? Well, a lot of the recent comics-related hires are in jobs that are slated to move to LA., including the recently launched kids magazine line. Twitter feeds have been full of apartment hunting trips to LA. Word on the street is that one of the comics-related Disney personnel will stay in NYC and move to the Marvel office. But just who is going and who staying hadn??t been made public, yet.
So is corporate shuffling to blame for the lack of new Disney comics material in America?
Author
Topic: The current state of Disney Comics? Blame Ike?
(53 messages)
Kneon
The current state of Disney Comics? Blame Ike?
Message 1 -
2012-05-31 at 16:17:29
MrCleveland
The current state of Disney Comics? Blame Ike?
Message 2 -
2012-06-01 at 02:31:38
All I want to know is this...
Will Disney Comics EVER come back to America...or does it have the same fate as Cleveland winning a Championship?
Will Disney Comics EVER come back to America...or does it have the same fate as Cleveland winning a Championship?
Robb_K
The current state of Disney Comics? Blame Ike?
Message 3 -
2012-06-01 at 02:51:31
I'd rather have Fantagraphics get the new franchise than Marvel run the Disney traditional comics characters comic book franchise (IF there is a successor to Boom!). Does anyone think that there will be NO potential franchisee that will see any potential profit or worth in attaining such a franchise?
Ramapith
The current state of Disney Comics? Blame Ike?
Message 4 -
2012-06-01 at 05:55:16
Gemstone's Walt Disney Treasures sold over 12,000 copies; Gemstone's Life of Scrooge sold over 30,000. That's perfectly acceptable for $14 trade paperbacks, and that's a profitable path any new publisher could easily take.
But first they'll have to ignore unfounded rumors that our medium is somehow inherently unprofitable; rumors that seem to fly thick and fast around the pessimistic DCF.
Please don't jump to conclusions, fellas. When classic-style product is well-advertised, the sales figures show that it can do just fine.
But first they'll have to ignore unfounded rumors that our medium is somehow inherently unprofitable; rumors that seem to fly thick and fast around the pessimistic DCF.
Please don't jump to conclusions, fellas. When classic-style product is well-advertised, the sales figures show that it can do just fine.
Debbie
The current state of Disney Comics? Blame Ike?
Message 5 -
2012-06-01 at 05:59:59
At this point, I'm just happy to even have Fantagraphics' Barks and Gottfredson reprints, and hope that they'll continue.
Roger North
The current state of Disney Comics? Blame Ike?
Message 6 -
2012-06-01 at 10:59:43
I don't care if Marvel or Fantagraphics publishes the Disney Comics as long as we have a company that publishes them. Hopefully the next company won't butcher the Disney Comics like Boom Studios did.
Charlie Brown
The current state of Disney Comics? Blame Ike?
Message 7 -
2012-06-02 at 12:09:44
Quote from user: ramapithGemstone's Walt Disney Treasures sold over 12,000 copies; Gemstone's Life of Scrooge sold over 30,000.
That are impressive numbers! And that speaks definitely for a profitable Disney comic business. How much copies of Uncle Scroge and Comics & Stories sold Gemstone each month?
I personally think that just 4,000 copies are necessary for a profitable publication.
That are impressive numbers! And that speaks definitely for a profitable Disney comic business. How much copies of Uncle Scroge and Comics & Stories sold Gemstone each month?
I personally think that just 4,000 copies are necessary for a profitable publication.
Argonaut
The current state of Disney Comics? Blame Ike?
Message 8 -
2012-06-02 at 23:54:44
...but unfortunately you need to sustain 5,000 a month to appear in Diamond's Holy Almighty Previews Catalogue. (Unless that's been repealed)
Regardless, I agree with David. The market is there. If Archie can still be a big player, so can the Duck family.
Regardless, I agree with David. The market is there. If Archie can still be a big player, so can the Duck family.
Roger North
The current state of Disney Comics? Blame Ike?
Message 9 -
2012-06-03 at 11:02:47
I hope you are right about that Argonaut.
AutumnMints
The current state of Disney Comics? Blame Ike?
Message 10 -
2012-06-13 at 05:55:32
Not meaning to sound ignorant and foolishly optimistic, but it IS indeed possible for the comics to become popular in North America (or at least kind of so). The main thing is marketing, I believe, as well as a little luck. I am a strange specimen for my age group as well as my location for liking the Disney comics. However, the truth of the matter is, I doubt that any of my friends have actually read a Disney comic before. In fact, I'm not sure if they have ever seen one before, or if they have they probably excepted cheesy stories with scripts that looked like to was ripped off of a B-rated 60's cartoon. How on earth is Disney comics going to succeed in the North American market if the market doesn't even know about them and/or expects little of them, other than people that are already fans in the first place? I admit that I am not the person that should be talking of such things because I don't actually go into comic book shops that often, but still, it was actually by chance that I read Disney comics in the first place.
In my particular case, it was not a childhood love of the comics for myself. Here (I was actually greatly surprised that it is apparently different in Europe), Disney comics is not a staple for children. Barely at all... or at least in my case and in my experiences. That means that the intended audience as a whole is not reading them at it's present time... which is bad, but again, it's not impossible to turn that around. Basically, it's putting them where parents are likely to go (though I know nothing about that type of thing of how hard that is etc.) Actually, the fact that archie comics are on newsstands and what have you is probably why it's still around.
Also another point I would like to bring up is just because Disney comics are primary intended for children, doesn't mean that it's main audience ends up being that way (as we are living proof of). One of the most popular things among 18-25 year old males where I live right now is a little girls show about colourful ponies (My little pony: Friendship is Magic... I kid you not). I doubt anyone really saw that one coming, but it somehow did. I've never seen it myself, but apparently the jokes can cross the age line (and even the gender border). We all know that the Disney comics can do that, so as I mentioned, the potential is there. It just got to get itself out there a little more than it has been. In fact, in my case, it was later on that I read Disney Comics and I was surprised at the level of storytelling in it (it's was a Carl Barks story mind you). Pretty much my point of that is that if I can become a fan of them, it is not impossible for others as well, aka, an audience outside of the intended audience can be created.
All I hope is that IF there is a new publisher whoever that will be (marvel or otherwise) will realize that, and play their cards right.
(Ah I'm really sorry if I completely missed the point or something. To tell the truth I'm a little nervous about posting this. I hope this make sense and not just me blabbing about something I know nothing about hahaha....)
In my particular case, it was not a childhood love of the comics for myself. Here (I was actually greatly surprised that it is apparently different in Europe), Disney comics is not a staple for children. Barely at all... or at least in my case and in my experiences. That means that the intended audience as a whole is not reading them at it's present time... which is bad, but again, it's not impossible to turn that around. Basically, it's putting them where parents are likely to go (though I know nothing about that type of thing of how hard that is etc.) Actually, the fact that archie comics are on newsstands and what have you is probably why it's still around.
Also another point I would like to bring up is just because Disney comics are primary intended for children, doesn't mean that it's main audience ends up being that way (as we are living proof of). One of the most popular things among 18-25 year old males where I live right now is a little girls show about colourful ponies (My little pony: Friendship is Magic... I kid you not). I doubt anyone really saw that one coming, but it somehow did. I've never seen it myself, but apparently the jokes can cross the age line (and even the gender border). We all know that the Disney comics can do that, so as I mentioned, the potential is there. It just got to get itself out there a little more than it has been. In fact, in my case, it was later on that I read Disney Comics and I was surprised at the level of storytelling in it (it's was a Carl Barks story mind you). Pretty much my point of that is that if I can become a fan of them, it is not impossible for others as well, aka, an audience outside of the intended audience can be created.
All I hope is that IF there is a new publisher whoever that will be (marvel or otherwise) will realize that, and play their cards right.
(Ah I'm really sorry if I completely missed the point or something. To tell the truth I'm a little nervous about posting this. I hope this make sense and not just me blabbing about something I know nothing about hahaha....)
Roger North
The current state of Disney Comics? Blame Ike?
Message 11 -
2012-06-13 at 10:55:23
Autumn Mints you make a good point. Disney Comics aren't just for kids and they should not just be targeted towards long time fans. They should be for anyone who wants to read them. I hope the next company that publishes them finds away for the comic books to reach both targeted audiences. I was a child when I first started reading Disney comics. Back in the 80's they sold like hotcakes. This continued until the late 90's They stopped being popular mainly because they became difficult to get. If they had lower cover prices Maybe Newsstands wouldn't mind paying for them and both long time Disney Comics fans and newer fans would be able to buy them easier just like we used to back in the 80's and 90's but they would also have to have good quality story lines. The reasons why Gladstone and Gemstone were good was because a lot of the staff members grew up on Disney Comics. I hope the next company will be run by former Disney Comics fans who grew up on them like myself.
Earnest
The current state of Disney Comics? Blame Ike?
Message 12 -
2012-06-13 at 13:36:01
Do you think that digicomics can help to reach kids? I mean not like a substitute for comics, but a new instrument to achieve this goal.
Dutch Duckfan Down Under
The current state of Disney Comics? Blame Ike?
Message 13 -
2012-06-13 at 14:00:14
I've already written a post about this once, but I can't repeat it often enough: marketing is the problem. How are you going to attract a crowd to Disney comics if it doesn't even know it exists? And if they do, they probably think it looks something like this. In Europe, Disney comics are wildly popular. But they're everywhere. In the US, they're nowhere, even when they are currently published. To get them to the crowds, you'd need some sort of big multi-platillion dollar deal between Disney and say... Wal-Mart. Or some other place a lot of people go to. But I'm not sure if the company cares much enough about its comic department to do such a thing. Usually the publisher handles all that. And let it just be the case that Disney acquired one of the world's biggest comic publishers a few years back: Marvel. I'm not saying I want Marvel Disney comics, but, you know, possibilities...
(Yes, I'm in my 'if I were in charge' mood again, and yet it seems so easy.)
(Yes, I'm in my 'if I were in charge' mood again, and yet it seems so easy.)
GeoX
The current state of Disney Comics? Blame Ike?
Message 14 -
2012-06-14 at 02:46:31
Back in the day, I purchased a copy of Donald Duck 286--the sixtieth-anniversary issue--from a tiny gift shop in a regional airport. I think that if Disney comics were again able to achieve that level of saturation, there would be no problem. But haven't people on this very board reported that you couldn't even buy then at Disney theme parks (fercrissake)? That's just unforgivable.
Roger North
The current state of Disney Comics? Blame Ike?
Message 15 -
2012-06-14 at 10:53:00
I agree with you there GeoX. I hope that the next company will figure out a way to market them better than Gemstone and Boom.