I'd like to see some sort of book devoted to Paul Murry's Mickey Mouse work, especially his serials from WDC&S. His art is very appealing, in my opinion.
Tony Strobl's Ducks, however, may be a lost cause. As much as I like them, the bar has been raised by the European artists to the point where Strobl's ducks seem substandard.
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Topic: 2012
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Debbie
2012
Message 16 -
2012-01-07 at 02:12:50
GeoX
2012
Message 17 -
2012-01-07 at 05:17:05
DISAGREE DISAGREE DISAGREE!
Not "substandard;" just a different aesthetic. I'd love to see more Strobl reprinted, whereas Gladstone put out enough Murry to last me for eight lifetimes.
Not "substandard;" just a different aesthetic. I'd love to see more Strobl reprinted, whereas Gladstone put out enough Murry to last me for eight lifetimes.
Richie
2012
Message 18 -
2012-01-07 at 06:00:12
On Facebook, Fantagraphics said they are Rosa fans and they're open to publish his work, but they want to get Barks out there first. A very logical choice, you get more enjoyment from Rosa's work if you're familiar with Carl's. If the Library is a success, I believe it won't be long before Rosa gets his due, and with him, more authors could get their time on the spotlight.
Artemi
2012
Message 19 -
2012-01-07 at 10:32:42
Quote from user: DebbieI'd like to see some sort of book devoted to Paul Murry's Mickey Mouse work, especially his serials from WDC&S. His art is very appealing, in my opinion.
Tony Strobl's Ducks, however, may be a lost cause. As much as I like them, the bar has been raised by the European artists to the point where Strobl's ducks seem substandard.
Strobl's work is simplistic by today's standards, even naive. But that's what I like about him. It's part of the charm, IMO. I think his presence in the Hall of Fame series is totally justified. All my favourite artists have very characteristic and recognizable styles. I don't like conventions in Disney comics and prefer experimentation. Tony, while being far from experimental (he is no Don Rosa, for god's sake!), is one of the most recognizable Duck artists of all times. :)
Tony Strobl's Ducks, however, may be a lost cause. As much as I like them, the bar has been raised by the European artists to the point where Strobl's ducks seem substandard.
Strobl's work is simplistic by today's standards, even naive. But that's what I like about him. It's part of the charm, IMO. I think his presence in the Hall of Fame series is totally justified. All my favourite artists have very characteristic and recognizable styles. I don't like conventions in Disney comics and prefer experimentation. Tony, while being far from experimental (he is no Don Rosa, for god's sake!), is one of the most recognizable Duck artists of all times. :)
Debbie
2012
Message 20 -
2012-01-07 at 17:00:48
Quote from user: ArtemiQuote from user: DebbieI'd like to see some sort of book devoted to Paul Murry's Mickey Mouse work, especially his serials from WDC&S. His art is very appealing, in my opinion.
Tony Strobl's Ducks, however, may be a lost cause. As much as I like them, the bar has been raised by the European artists to the point where Strobl's ducks seem substandard.
Strobl's work is simplistic by today's standards, even naive. But that's what I like about him. It's part of the charm, IMO. I think his presence in the Hall of Fame series is totally justified. All my favourite artists have very characteristic and recognizable styles. I don't like conventions in Disney comics and prefer experimentation. Tony, while being far from experimental (he is no Don Rosa, for god's sake!), is one of the most recognizable Duck artists of all times. :)
I'll agree, the simplicity of his work is what I like, too. At times it is a bit stiff, but recognizable. But it seems that to many readers, if it's not Barks or Rosa, it's not worth reading, which would likely keep a Strobl collection from happening in the US market.
Tony Strobl's Ducks, however, may be a lost cause. As much as I like them, the bar has been raised by the European artists to the point where Strobl's ducks seem substandard.
Strobl's work is simplistic by today's standards, even naive. But that's what I like about him. It's part of the charm, IMO. I think his presence in the Hall of Fame series is totally justified. All my favourite artists have very characteristic and recognizable styles. I don't like conventions in Disney comics and prefer experimentation. Tony, while being far from experimental (he is no Don Rosa, for god's sake!), is one of the most recognizable Duck artists of all times. :)
I'll agree, the simplicity of his work is what I like, too. At times it is a bit stiff, but recognizable. But it seems that to many readers, if it's not Barks or Rosa, it's not worth reading, which would likely keep a Strobl collection from happening in the US market.
Robb_K
2012
Message 21 -
2012-01-07 at 17:04:20
Tony Strobl was a better artist than many people think. I've seen some of his early pencilwork. His inkers really made his work look stiff (moreso than inkers of many other artists. I think his final work and reputation suffered more than many others of his time from having below average quality inkers.
Hedberg
2012
Message 22 -
2012-01-07 at 19:46:14
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Here's your missing parenthesis, Robb.
But I think you're right about the stiffness in Strobl's inking.
Here's your missing parenthesis, Robb.
But I think you're right about the stiffness in Strobl's inking.
Artemi
2012
Message 23 -
2012-01-07 at 22:25:52
Quote from user: DebbieQuote from user: ArtemiQuote from user: DebbieI'd like to see some sort of book devoted to Paul Murry's Mickey Mouse work, especially his serials from WDC&S. His art is very appealing, in my opinion.
Tony Strobl's Ducks, however, may be a lost cause. As much as I like them, the bar has been raised by the European artists to the point where Strobl's ducks seem substandard.
Strobl's work is simplistic by today's standards, even naive. But that's what I like about him. It's part of the charm, IMO. I think his presence in the Hall of Fame series is totally justified. All my favourite artists have very characteristic and recognizable styles. I don't like conventions in Disney comics and prefer experimentation. Tony, while being far from experimental (he is no Don Rosa, for god's sake!), is one of the most recognizable Duck artists of all times. :)
I'll agree, the simplicity of his work is what I like, too. At times it is a bit stiff, but recognizable. But it seems that to many readers, if it's not Barks or Rosa, it's not worth reading, which would likely keep a Strobl collection from happening in the US market.
Well in the US market, maybe, I am no expert on that. But he is part of the European "Hall of Fame" collection. However, he has only one tome there. (for comparison, Don Rosa has more than 10!).
Tony Strobl's Ducks, however, may be a lost cause. As much as I like them, the bar has been raised by the European artists to the point where Strobl's ducks seem substandard.
Strobl's work is simplistic by today's standards, even naive. But that's what I like about him. It's part of the charm, IMO. I think his presence in the Hall of Fame series is totally justified. All my favourite artists have very characteristic and recognizable styles. I don't like conventions in Disney comics and prefer experimentation. Tony, while being far from experimental (he is no Don Rosa, for god's sake!), is one of the most recognizable Duck artists of all times. :)
I'll agree, the simplicity of his work is what I like, too. At times it is a bit stiff, but recognizable. But it seems that to many readers, if it's not Barks or Rosa, it's not worth reading, which would likely keep a Strobl collection from happening in the US market.
Well in the US market, maybe, I am no expert on that. But he is part of the European "Hall of Fame" collection. However, he has only one tome there. (for comparison, Don Rosa has more than 10!).
Germund
2012
Message 24 -
2012-01-07 at 23:31:01
Quote from user: ArtemiBut he is part of the European "Hall of Fame" collection. However, he has only one tome there. (for comparison, Don Rosa has more than 10!).
Don Rosa got exactly 10 volumes in the Hall of Fame collection, which should include his entire production. I doubt though, that the Strobl volume has sold 1/10 of any of the Rosa ones, but there's a nice 2-page article in that volume which tries to describe just why Strobl's work is still remembered fondly. Paul Murry has so far received three HoF volumes, likely because he's believed to be a more popular (= better for the sales) artist.
Don Rosa got exactly 10 volumes in the Hall of Fame collection, which should include his entire production. I doubt though, that the Strobl volume has sold 1/10 of any of the Rosa ones, but there's a nice 2-page article in that volume which tries to describe just why Strobl's work is still remembered fondly. Paul Murry has so far received three HoF volumes, likely because he's believed to be a more popular (= better for the sales) artist.
MrCleveland
2012
Message 25 -
2012-01-07 at 23:47:58
Quote from user: RichieOn Facebook, Fantagraphics said they are Rosa fans and they're open to publish his work, but they want to get Barks out there first. A very logical choice, you get more enjoyment from Rosa's work if you're familiar with Carl's. If the Library is a success, I believe it won't be long before Rosa gets his due, and with him, more authors could get their time on the spotlight.
Good...and I hope Vicar is next. (Since he's gone now).
Good...and I hope Vicar is next. (Since he's gone now).
Roger North
2012
Message 26 -
2012-01-08 at 05:14:40
Yeah that would be cool if they printed a collection of Vicar stories.
Charlie Brown
2012
Message 27 -
2012-01-08 at 10:32:53
Great news! I really hope the Carl Barks collection is a success for Fantagraphics (and they start the Don Rosa collection before 2025 ;))
Artemi
2012
Message 28 -
2012-01-08 at 11:23:57
Quote from user: germundQuote from user: ArtemiBut he is part of the European "Hall of Fame" collection. However, he has only one tome there. (for comparison, Don Rosa has more than 10!).
Don Rosa got exactly 10 volumes in the Hall of Fame collection, which should include his entire production. I doubt though, that the Strobl volume has sold 1/10 of any of the Rosa ones, but there's a nice 2-page article in that volume which tries to describe just why Strobl's work is still remembered fondly. Paul Murry has so far received three HoF volumes, likely because he's believed to be a more popular (= better for the sales) artist.
Thanks for your correction. I wish Strobl got more volumes. Maybe in the future? He certainly deserves it.
As for stiffness in his artwork, to put the question of his inkers aside, I noticed that, as with many other artists, he seems to have undergone an evolution of sorts, his early work being more elastic, flexible and dynamic, but less personal (could easily be confused with Kay Wright or some other artist). His later work, though, became more simplistic and stiff, but very recognizable. Personally, I consider this later Strobl to be archetypal. As in this story for instance:
http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=S+81129
These clearly rendered stories appear in several pocket publications in Europe and when reduced in size, they still look great and relevant. On the other hand, if you reduce a Barks or Don Rosa story (have some Barks' stuff in pocket books as well), you'll get a complete mess, as many details will be lost.
Another artist similar to latter-day (1975-1987) Strobl is Bob Gregory. (in fact, one of my favorites).
Don Rosa got exactly 10 volumes in the Hall of Fame collection, which should include his entire production. I doubt though, that the Strobl volume has sold 1/10 of any of the Rosa ones, but there's a nice 2-page article in that volume which tries to describe just why Strobl's work is still remembered fondly. Paul Murry has so far received three HoF volumes, likely because he's believed to be a more popular (= better for the sales) artist.
Thanks for your correction. I wish Strobl got more volumes. Maybe in the future? He certainly deserves it.
As for stiffness in his artwork, to put the question of his inkers aside, I noticed that, as with many other artists, he seems to have undergone an evolution of sorts, his early work being more elastic, flexible and dynamic, but less personal (could easily be confused with Kay Wright or some other artist). His later work, though, became more simplistic and stiff, but very recognizable. Personally, I consider this later Strobl to be archetypal. As in this story for instance:
http://coa.inducks.org/story.php?c=S+81129
These clearly rendered stories appear in several pocket publications in Europe and when reduced in size, they still look great and relevant. On the other hand, if you reduce a Barks or Don Rosa story (have some Barks' stuff in pocket books as well), you'll get a complete mess, as many details will be lost.
Another artist similar to latter-day (1975-1987) Strobl is Bob Gregory. (in fact, one of my favorites).
Artemi
2012
Message 29 -
2012-01-08 at 14:17:56
I am also sorry for having drifted slightly off-topic with that discussion of Strobl's art.
So, the 2012! My wishes for this new year, Disney comic-wise:
1) More "Hall of Fame "-type editions in many countries.
2) Full-scale Brazilian production resumes (instead of only a handful of stories per year).
3) More countries start their own production of Disney comics, with new, local artists. Indonesia could try it, there is a great potential... Finland? Spain? Argentina? China? Japan? Whatever.
4) More stories per year from different authors and artists in countries where Disney comic production already exists.
So, the 2012! My wishes for this new year, Disney comic-wise:
1) More "Hall of Fame "-type editions in many countries.
2) Full-scale Brazilian production resumes (instead of only a handful of stories per year).
3) More countries start their own production of Disney comics, with new, local artists. Indonesia could try it, there is a great potential... Finland? Spain? Argentina? China? Japan? Whatever.
4) More stories per year from different authors and artists in countries where Disney comic production already exists.
MrCleveland
2012
Message 30 -
2012-01-11 at 00:42:20
Quote from user: ArtemiI am also sorry for having drifted slightly off-topic with that discussion of Strobl's art.
So, the 2012! My wishes for this new year, Disney comic-wise:
1) More "Hall of Fame "-type editions in many countries.
2) Full-scale Brazilian production resumes (instead of only a handful of stories per year).
3) More countries start their own production of Disney comics, with new, local artists. Indonesia could try it, there is a great potential... Finland? Spain? Argentina? China? Japan? Whatever.
4) More stories per year from different authors and artists in countries where Disney comic production already exists.
I too would liken to see the Brazilian Stories come to The States since the Latino Population is in full-swing here...maybe many will like Ze Carioca.
So, the 2012! My wishes for this new year, Disney comic-wise:
1) More "Hall of Fame "-type editions in many countries.
2) Full-scale Brazilian production resumes (instead of only a handful of stories per year).
3) More countries start their own production of Disney comics, with new, local artists. Indonesia could try it, there is a great potential... Finland? Spain? Argentina? China? Japan? Whatever.
4) More stories per year from different authors and artists in countries where Disney comic production already exists.
I too would liken to see the Brazilian Stories come to The States since the Latino Population is in full-swing here...maybe many will like Ze Carioca.