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Wilmer Rivers
Harry Fluks writes:
> I always thought Gyro was a crane [Dutch "kraanvogel"; I got the English
> word from a dictionary].
> The Dutch publisher once answered that to a letter of a reader.

I too had always thought of Gyro as a crane, which is why it initially
took me by surprise when the ad from Gladstone Publishing referred to
him as a chicken. I can see that now, thinking about his face and
beak, but because he is tall and skinny I never considered that he was
anything other than a crane. If there were a chicken character in the
Disney universe, I would have thought it would be short and fat, like
the hen Clara Cluck.

Wilmer Rivers
Harry Fluks
In this mail you find a list of Barks oil paintings. I got this list from
the book 'The fine art of Carl Barks' (or so). I have seen the book once,
and the owner gave me a copy of the index.
A lot of painting reproductions are published in Holland since 1987, in
the monthly magazine 'Donald Duck Extra'. That's why the list is of interest
for me, while I don't have the book.

When Barks started to paint Disney-things again for Another Rainbow,
he produced (at least) the paintings I numbered 123-136. I got some
information about these paintings from The Carl Barks Library (in which some
are reproduced, but not all). I don't have the CBL either...

As you can see, some information is missing, mostly about these AR paintings.
So, my question: can anyone give me the information to complete the list?
Maybe there are paintings, that are not on my list?
And: is there a way to tell the difference between the various paintings that
have the same 'inspiration'? (I can't tell which one is the Dutch reprint)

As always, remarks welcome, thanks in advance.
Harry.
(H.W.Fluks at research.ptt.nl)

---- start of list ----

Explanation of the columns:
Nr:
number, just telling the order in which Barks made the paintings.
I know number 0 actually is 4 or 5 paintings, looking almost alike.

Year:
the year Barks made the painting.

Or:
Orientation of the painting: P = portrait, L = landscape (since the
Dutch reprints are all the same size, I didn't bother to list the exact
size of the painting. The orientation is just an aid to recognize
the painting.)

Inspiration:
The cover or scene on which the painting was inspired. If a cover or scene
was used more than once, a number in () follows.
If the painting idea is all new, this column is blank.

Title/description
The title that Barks gave to the painting, or, if the painting has no
title: a description. (No capitals used.)
I would like to know which is which, but I don't
have the data.

Nr Year Or Inspiration Title/description

0 P scrooge
1 1971 P Cover WDC 108 (1) a tall ship and a star to steer her by
2 1971 P Cover OS 386 (1) money lake
3 1971 P Cover OS 199 (1) bullet valley
4 1971 P Cover OS 199 (2) bullet valley
5 1971 P Cover OS 408 (1) golden helmet
6 1971 P Cover OS 275 (1) ancient persia
7 1971 P Cover OS 386 (2) money lake
8 1971 P wishing well
9 1971 P blue composition of ducks
10 1971 P Cover OS 199 (3) bullet valley
11 1971 P Cover OS 386 (3) money lake
12 1971 P Cover OS 189 (1) old castle
13 1971 P Cover WDC 104 (1) truant officer
14 1971 P Cover OS 386 (4) money lake
15 1971 P Cover OS 275 (2) ancient persia
16 1972 P christmas composition
17 1972 L pleasure in the treasure
18 1972 P Cover OS 408 (2) golden helmet
19 1972 P Cover WDC 108 (2) sailboat
20 1972 P Cover WDC 148 christmas carolers
21 1972 L the wadfather
22 1972 P Cover OS 199 (4) bullet valley
23 1972 L Scene US 12 golden fleece
24 1972 P Cover OS 495 (1) treasure island
25 1972 P Scene OS 238 bombie the zombie
26 1972 P Cover OS 456 (1) klondike cover
27 1972 L money bin memories
28 1972 L Cover WDC 108 (3) fair wind off bora bora
29 1972 L reading the scandal sheet
30 1972 P Cover OS 456 (2) klondike kaper
31 1972 P Cover WDC 108 (4) sea cruise
32 1972 P Cover WDC 104 (2) truant officer
33 1972 P Cover OS 386 (5) money lake
34 1972 P Cover WDC 140 flubbity dubbity duffer
35 1972 P Cover OS 408 (3) golden helmet
36 1972 P Cover OS 189 (2) old castle with scrooge
37 1972 P Scene VP 1 vacation panel
38 1972 L Scene US 25 (1) flying dutchman
39 1972 L Scene US 25 (2) flying dutchman
40 1973 P Cover OS 275 (3) blue persia
41 1973 P Cover OS 199 (5) bullet valley
42 1973 P Cover OS 495 (2) treasure island
43 1973 P Cover DD 44 blizzard tonight
44 1973 L (1) secret safe
45 1973 P Cover OS 275 (4) green persia
46 1973 L (2) what's in there?
47 1973 P Cover OS 386 (6) another long day's work
48 1973 P Cover OS 223 (1) eight-cornered eggs
49 1973 P Cover OS 495 (3) isle of golden dreams
50 1973 L Scene US 12 menace out of the myths
51 1973 L visitor from underground
52 1973 P Cover OS 223 (2) square eggs
53 1973 P Cover OS 199 (6) sheriff donald's last stand
54 1973 P Cover OS 450 (1) family portrait
55 1973 P Cover WDC 108 (5) sea fever
56 1973 L time out for fun
57 1973 L much ado about a dime
58 1973 L time out for therapy
59 1973 L who's out there?
60 1973 P Cover OS 238 (1) in voodoo land
61 1973 L Cover OS 256 luck of the north
62 1973 P webfoot tenderfoot
63 1973 L this dollar saved my life at whitehorse
64 1973 L Scene US 37 cave of ali baba
65 1973 L spoiling the concert
66 1973 P Cover OS 450 (2) lavender and old lace
67 1973 P Cover OS 199 (7) sheriff donald at gory gap
68 1973 P Scene OS 456 the goose egg nugget
69 1973 L Scene WDC 41 (1) duck in the iron pants
70 1973 L Cover DD 26 (1) halloween in duckburg
71 1974 L snow fun
72 1974 L Scene OS 422 (1) el dorado, gilded man
73 1974 P Cover WDC 130 slow boat to duckburg
74 1974 L Cover DD 26 (2) trick or treat
75 1974 P Cover OS 386 (7) only a poor old duck
76 1974 L Scene WDC 41 (2) a hot defense
77 1974 L Scene OS 386 sport of tycoons
78 1974 L danger, tycoon at play
79 1974 L dangerous discovery
80 1974 L a binful of fun
81 1974 L Scene OS 386 nobody's spending fool
82 1974 P Cover WDC 155 rude awakening
83 1974 P mcduck of duckburg
84 1974 L season to be jolly
85 1974 P Cover OS 238 (2) voodoo hoodooed
86 1974 P Scene OS 108 terror of the river
87 1974 P Cover WDC 108 (6) red sails in the sunset
88 1974 P where ducks and antelope play
89 1974 P pick and shovel laborer
90 1974 P make your move, podner
91 1974 P always another rainbow
92 1975 P Cover WDC 164 compleat golfer
93 1975 P dude for a day
94 1975 P i found it, i keep it
95 1975 P miser's hangup
96 1975 P Cover US 19 the old money magician
97 1975 P Cover US 50 rug riders last flight
98 1975 L Cover US 61 far out safari
99 1975 P banker's salad
100 1975 L Cover US 13 time wasters
101 1975 P hi, i'm donald duck
102 1975 P mayday on the prairie
103 1975 P Cover WDC 151 unsafe vehicle
104 1975 L cave of the minotaur
105 1975 L Scene OS 456 business long overdue
106 1975 L hands off my playthings
107 1975 P oh, oh!
108 1975 P buyer beware
109 1975 L Scene OS 456 she was spangled and flashy
110 1975 P Scene OS 159 menace from the grotto
111 1975 P the expert
112 1975 P Cover OS 386 (8) lake of gold
113 1975 L Scene US 7 golden cities of cibola
114 1975 P rumble seat roadster
115 1975 P Cover OS 367 gifts for shacktown
116 1975 P Scene OS 203 golden christmas tree
117 1976 P Cover OS 9 pirate gold
118 1976 L business as usual
119 1976 L july fourth in duckburg
120 1976 P Cover OS 456 (3) disputed claim
121 1976 P live it up, kid!
122 1976 P Cover WDC 108 (7) over the bounding main
123 1980 P wanderers in wonderland
124 1982 P Cover WDC 108 (8) sailing the spanish main
125 L an embarassment of riches
126 P till death do us part
127 1984 L a 1934 belchfire runabout
128 P in uncle walt's collectery
129 return to morgan's island
130 P Scene US 25 afoul of the flying dutchman
131 Scene OS 386 dam disaster at money lake
132 1986 L Scene OS 189 dubious ducks at dismal downs
133 P Scene OS 422 (2) [not mentioned in CBL, but used on
a Gladstone album cover.]
134 1988 P no one will ever believe this
135 1989 L holiday in duckburg
136 1989 L return to plain awful
[is this really the last one?]
---- end of list ----
Per Starbäck
Harry:
> In this mail you find a list of Barks oil paintings. I got this list from
> the book 'The fine art of Carl Barks' (or so). I have seen the book once,
> and the owner gave me a copy of the index.

Ah, I wish I had that book! (BTW I think the title is _The Fine Art
of Walt Disney's Donald Duck by Carl Barks_. I will henceforth call
it "the oil painting book".) There were some rumors that a new cheap
edition of it would eventually appear, just like _Uncle Scrooge McDuck
His Life And Times_ got one. Does anyone know if there's some truth
to that rumor, or if there at least still is such a rumor. :-)

> Explanation of the columns:
> Nr:
> number, just telling the order in which Barks made the paintings.

So this is not the "plate number" in the oil painting book? I think
it would be easier to identify some of the paintings if you gave those
numbers, as they are sometimes referred to.

> As you can see, some information is missing, mostly about these AR paintings.
> So, my question: can anyone give me the information to complete the list?

You could get miniature versions of the paintings that AR made
lithographs of, just by writing AR and asking for them. I have mine
in a folder somewhere, perhaps together with some other info on the
oils, but I can't find it right now. I don't think I had much there,
but it's irritating all the same. What I did find is "The Well
Wrought Oil" by John Garvin in "The Barks Collector" #39-42, according
to which the oils they made lithographs from are

1. Sailing the Spanish Main
2. An Embarrassment of Riches
3. Till Death Do Us Part
4. A 1934 Belchfire Runabout
5. In Uncle Walt's Collectery
6. Return to Morgan's Island
7. Afoul of the Flying Dutchman
8. Dam Disaster at Money Lake
9. Dubious Ducks at Dismal Downs
10. First National Bank of Cibola
11. Trespassers Will Be Ventilated
12. The Makings of a Fish Story
13. Return to Plain Awful

(But they have made more, after that, haven't they?)
Short descriptions of those not in your list:

10: P Scene US 7a (Cibola)
11: L Scene USOS 456 (Klondike) Goldie and Black Jack surprise US, DD & HDL
12: P The Ducks examine treasure under the sea. Mermaids come from behind.
(Or is that one the "no one will ever believe this" in your list?)
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at student.docs.uu.se
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
Harry Fluks
On Per's comments on my Barks painting list:

> > Explanation of the columns:
> > Nr:
> > number, just telling the order in which Barks made the paintings.
>
> So this is not the "plate number" in the oil painting book? I think
> it would be easier to identify some of the paintings if you gave those
> numbers, as they are sometimes referred to.

I don't know. I copied the number from the index in the book, but I can't
remember if the book was giving the paintings other numbers as well.
Barks gave the paintings numbers too (in the form 75/2, 75/3 etc.).

> [13 lithographs in list]
> (But they have made more, after that, haven't they?)

I read in a Gladstone comic that 'Return to Plain Awful' was the 13th painting
from 'Sailing the Spanish Main' on. So I filled in the gaps with paintings
I knew. I guess some of them must be placed after 'Plain Awful'.

> 12: P The Ducks examine treasure under the sea. Mermaids come from behind.
> (Or is that one the "no one will ever believe this" in your list?)
Yes, it is. I read (in the CBL, I think) that the painting was re-titled,
for the Japanese market. I can't remember why...

Thanks for the information. I will have to re-arrange my list:

133 = First National Bank of Cibola
134 = Trespassers will be ventilated
135 = No one will ever believe this / The makings of a fish story
136 = Return to Plain Awful
137 = Holiday in Duckburg
138 = (title unknown, about the Gilded Man)

(maybe 137/138 not in the right order)

You seem to know the 13 paintings you mentioned. So: what is the orientation
of 'Morgan' and 'Money Lake'?

Harry Fluks.
Per Starbäck
For those who are wondering about what this thread's about: When Carl
Barks retired from doing comic books in 1966 he started painting in
oil in his newly acquired free time, mostly landscapes. Then some
years later a fan asked him to do a Donald Duck in oil, and Disney,
miraculously enough, okayed it. Some years later (1976) Disney told
Barks that he no more was allowed to do paintings with Disney
characters. Then he continued in this new somewhat cartoony style
with ducks and other waterfowl that weren't Disney characters.

In 1980 the luxury book _Uncle Scrooge McDuck His Life and Times_
appeared from Another Rainbow, with a signed lithograph "Wanderers of
Wonderlands" by Barks with every copy, so Another Rainbow had made
some deal with Disney so that Barks once more was allowed to do
paintings with Disney characters. From 1982 on Another Rainbow has
been releasing lithographs made from Barks paintings.

And now, the answers to some of Harry's questions:

me> (Or is that one ["The Makings of a Fish Story"] the "no one will
me> ever believe this" in your list?)
Harry> Yes, it is. I read (in the CBL, I think) that the painting was
Harry> re-titled, for the Japanese market. I can't remember why...

Ah, yes. It's in CBL VI, p.550. They didn't think the Japanese would
understand the original title!

> You seem to know the 13 paintings you mentioned. So: what is the orientation
> of 'Morgan' and 'Money Lake'?

They are all reproduced in b/w and very small in the article in The
Barks Collector I referred to. Both of them have "landscape"
orientation.

Earlier this year I got an ad for a new lithograph made from an oil
on a scene from US10a (The Fabulous Philosopher's Stone) btw. The
seller called it something in Swedish which translated back into
English would be "The Magic Stone". "Portrait" orientation.
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at student.docs.uu.se
"My reason for switching to waterfowl type of subjects was
pure capitalist greed" -- Carl Barks
Per Starbäck
Two additions to the Don Rosa list:

H 89174 was reprinted in Carl Barks Library, set VI (as part of the
script and pencils is by Barks).

AR 103 was published in KA91-29 in Sweden (and the rest of
Scandinavia, I guess).

I guess new people to the list might be interested in getting things
like the Don Rosa list, so I'm planning on making a standard welcoming
message to the list that tells about interesting information files I
keep as part of the mailing list administration. Something like:

Welcome to <blah blah blah. address of list etc.>

I keep some files here, composed from earlier messages to the list,
that might be of interest to you. Just write to me and ask for any of
them, and I'll send them to you. They are:

* members
==========
The members of the mailing list, with their email addresses.

* rosa
=======
A list of Don Rosa's Disney stories and covers and where they are
printed. There is information on publication in the USA, the
Netherlands, and Scandinavia.

* recurring
============
Rich Bellacera's "Disney Toon Character List" of recurring characters.
(Not restricted to Disney *comics*.)

* story-codes
==============
An explanation of the various story codes, i.e., the production codes
of the stories that are sometimes found in the first panel of the
stories. By Harry Fluks.

Is this a good idea? The above is just random thoughts at the moment,
and not a definite list. What should be there? One thing that I
definitely think should be there, but that I haven't got is a list of
the current Disney comics, with short notes on what they contain.

Beauty & The Beast
Colossal Comics Collection
Disney Adventures
Donald Duck Adventures
Uncle Scrooge
Walt Disney's Comics & Stories

There are more, aren't there?
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at student.docs.uu.se
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
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