From Comics Buyer's Guide #1011 April 2,1993 page 46
Artist Gare' Barks died during the night of March 8.
While she was primarily known to comic-book collectors as the wife
of Carl Barks, long-time writer-artist of Donald Duck stories and creator
of Uncle Scrooge McDuck, she was a landscape painter whose work appeared
nationally on greeting cards and in prints. Some of her paintings are
reproduced at the right side of this page.
She assisted her husband on his comic-book stories, primarily on
the inking and lettering.
"Gare'" was the name she used professionally and was taken from
her given name, Margaret. She pronounced it "Gary".
Anyone wishing to make a memorial donation can do so to Animal
Preservation of Planned Parenthood, two of her favorite charities.
Memorial services were held March 12, near her home in Grants
Pass, Oregon.
Author
Topic: 199304
(103 messages)
Torsten Wesley Adair
Painter Gare' Barks dies (fwd)
Message 1 -
1993-04-01 at 02:58:09
Torsten Wesley Adair
Gare' Barks
Message 2 -
1993-04-01 at 03:00:19
On Wed, 31 Mar 1993, Per Starb{ck wrote:
> Torsten:
> > I doubt you'll be able to get a copy, as most stores I know don't
> > keep back issues. I posted the short obituary that week, and wonder if it
> > made it to the net.
> To the net? If you've sent it to this list it didn't get through.
> And I haven't seen anything about it in rec.arts.comics.* or
> rec.arts.disney either. In fact I learned about her being dead from
> Wilmer River's posting to this list:
I sent it to "student" instead of "minsk". That will teach me to update
my address book.
> I called a Swedish comics dealer and asked him about it. He said that
> the latest ish of CBG that he had got *mentioned* the death on the
> back cover. I thought that "the tributes" might be something more than
> that, and that it is the issue after that one I want. Is it?
No, the Gladstone ad on the back appears in the same issue as the tributes.
>
> Could anyone please give me some issue numbers, both of this CBG and
> an earlier one with a feature on Gladstone and interviews with Don
> Rosa and William Van Horn. I'd also like the issue number of that
> issue of Advance Comics with a Don Rosa interview that Harry
> mentioned. There is an old interview with Rosa by Dana Gabbard that
> Gabbard told me would be published in The Comics Journal. Has it?
> Please anyone tell me when it appears.
>
> And finally a simple question on Gare': How do you proncounce her
> name? Like Gary???
Yes. She created this name from her given name.
Torsten torsten at cwis.unomaha.edu Omaha, NE
> Torsten:
> > I doubt you'll be able to get a copy, as most stores I know don't
> > keep back issues. I posted the short obituary that week, and wonder if it
> > made it to the net.
> To the net? If you've sent it to this list it didn't get through.
> And I haven't seen anything about it in rec.arts.comics.* or
> rec.arts.disney either. In fact I learned about her being dead from
> Wilmer River's posting to this list:
I sent it to "student" instead of "minsk". That will teach me to update
my address book.
> I called a Swedish comics dealer and asked him about it. He said that
> the latest ish of CBG that he had got *mentioned* the death on the
> back cover. I thought that "the tributes" might be something more than
> that, and that it is the issue after that one I want. Is it?
No, the Gladstone ad on the back appears in the same issue as the tributes.
>
> Could anyone please give me some issue numbers, both of this CBG and
> an earlier one with a feature on Gladstone and interviews with Don
> Rosa and William Van Horn. I'd also like the issue number of that
> issue of Advance Comics with a Don Rosa interview that Harry
> mentioned. There is an old interview with Rosa by Dana Gabbard that
> Gabbard told me would be published in The Comics Journal. Has it?
> Please anyone tell me when it appears.
>
> And finally a simple question on Gare': How do you proncounce her
> name? Like Gary???
Yes. She created this name from her given name.
Torsten torsten at cwis.unomaha.edu Omaha, NE
Fredrik Ekman
Languages
Message 3 -
1993-04-01 at 03:23:52
I could volunteer to maintain an international Disney character list
but, just like Harry, I don't have access to the ISO standards for
neither country codes nor ASCII replacements for foreign characters.
Is there a solution to this problem? Could Per snail-mail 'em to me?
In any case; given some time, I may have some additions of my own.
Some Egyptian names for example (exciting, eh?).
/Fredrik Ekman
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| | |
| "By definition, one can only | Steve Gerber, |
| go so far in a world between." | Howard the Duck |
| | |
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but, just like Harry, I don't have access to the ISO standards for
neither country codes nor ASCII replacements for foreign characters.
Is there a solution to this problem? Could Per snail-mail 'em to me?
In any case; given some time, I may have some additions of my own.
Some Egyptian names for example (exciting, eh?).
/Fredrik Ekman
--------------------------------------------------------
| | |
| "By definition, one can only | Steve Gerber, |
| go so far in a world between." | Howard the Duck |
| | |
--------------------------------------------------------
Fredrik Ekman
Final word about relatives?
Message 4 -
1993-04-01 at 03:31:32
Hi again!
It seems that the subject of relatives have been sufficently debated (at
least noone writes about it anymore) so I thought I'd close that discussion
by giving an overview of _my_personal_ Duck family tree. This stands strong
since many years and can not be changed by facts! (So there!)
Hewey, Dewey and Louie: Their mother, Della, sent them to her brother
Donald after they had given their father a heart attack by exploding fire-
crackers under his chair. Later he recovered, only to get another, much
worse, attack when the boys came home again. This unfortunately killed the
poor man and HD&L where again sent to uncle Donald. Della went away to
Australia or some other faraway place and has not been seen again.
Uncle $crooge and Gladstone Gander: They are related to Donald according
to what is said in that Barks comic (and I don't remember the name of it
and I don't remember the exact relations, but this is always so with me).
The Ducks and McDucks are two different families, and if they have a
mutual history, it is far back in time.
Cousin Fethry: He somehow manages to be cousin with both Donald and
Gladstone. Just don't ask me how!
Gus Goose: Is a cousin of Donalds. His mother's name is mentioned in the
animated film where he first appears, but I've forgotten it (as usual).
If someone desperately wants to know, I can check it up.
Grandma Duck: She is Donald's grandmother on his father's side. When
Donald's parents died (possibly as the cause of a tragic accident while
trying to prove that ducks _can_ fly) she took care of him and raised him
as her own son. Grandma and $crooge are _not_ related, but they have a
very close friendship, possibly because $crooge was Donald's financial
protector when he (Donald) was young.
Ludwig von Drake: I'm not quite sure about this character. I'm sure he is
family, but I don't know exactly how. If Donald's father was a Duck and
his mother was a McDuck, he can't be Donald's uncle. Perhaps he is uncle
$crooge's cousin?
Gyro, Daisy and Clara Cluck are not relatives of the other characters.
That's it and that's that. I hope that I didn't forget anyone important,
and I will not draw the entire tree simply because I'm too lazy.
On the subject of odd relatives, I could mention that Gladstone has one
nephew (Lycko-Axel Lukas (Swedish name)) and two nieces. They all have
the same kind of luck as Gladstone has. These possibly appeared in an
Italian comic.
Finally, a notice about Disney characters and marriages: Donald once
married one of Daisy's friends. After the wedding, she terrorized poor
Donald horribly. In the end, however, it all turned out to be a dream.
This story, too, was Italian.
/Fredrik Ekman
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| | |
| "By definition, one can only | Steve Gerber, |
| go so far in a world between." | Howard the Duck |
| | |
--------------------------------------------------------
P.S. Jellybeans asked me if Howard was related to the other ducks. To him
and anyone else how may wonder; Howard is not related to the ducks. In fact,
he's not even Disney. Howard the Duck looks a lot like Donald Duck, but he
is a Marvel comic character. This comic is (was) a wonderful parody of the
American society in general and superhero comics in particular. D.S.
It seems that the subject of relatives have been sufficently debated (at
least noone writes about it anymore) so I thought I'd close that discussion
by giving an overview of _my_personal_ Duck family tree. This stands strong
since many years and can not be changed by facts! (So there!)
Hewey, Dewey and Louie: Their mother, Della, sent them to her brother
Donald after they had given their father a heart attack by exploding fire-
crackers under his chair. Later he recovered, only to get another, much
worse, attack when the boys came home again. This unfortunately killed the
poor man and HD&L where again sent to uncle Donald. Della went away to
Australia or some other faraway place and has not been seen again.
Uncle $crooge and Gladstone Gander: They are related to Donald according
to what is said in that Barks comic (and I don't remember the name of it
and I don't remember the exact relations, but this is always so with me).
The Ducks and McDucks are two different families, and if they have a
mutual history, it is far back in time.
Cousin Fethry: He somehow manages to be cousin with both Donald and
Gladstone. Just don't ask me how!
Gus Goose: Is a cousin of Donalds. His mother's name is mentioned in the
animated film where he first appears, but I've forgotten it (as usual).
If someone desperately wants to know, I can check it up.
Grandma Duck: She is Donald's grandmother on his father's side. When
Donald's parents died (possibly as the cause of a tragic accident while
trying to prove that ducks _can_ fly) she took care of him and raised him
as her own son. Grandma and $crooge are _not_ related, but they have a
very close friendship, possibly because $crooge was Donald's financial
protector when he (Donald) was young.
Ludwig von Drake: I'm not quite sure about this character. I'm sure he is
family, but I don't know exactly how. If Donald's father was a Duck and
his mother was a McDuck, he can't be Donald's uncle. Perhaps he is uncle
$crooge's cousin?
Gyro, Daisy and Clara Cluck are not relatives of the other characters.
That's it and that's that. I hope that I didn't forget anyone important,
and I will not draw the entire tree simply because I'm too lazy.
On the subject of odd relatives, I could mention that Gladstone has one
nephew (Lycko-Axel Lukas (Swedish name)) and two nieces. They all have
the same kind of luck as Gladstone has. These possibly appeared in an
Italian comic.
Finally, a notice about Disney characters and marriages: Donald once
married one of Daisy's friends. After the wedding, she terrorized poor
Donald horribly. In the end, however, it all turned out to be a dream.
This story, too, was Italian.
/Fredrik Ekman
--------------------------------------------------------
| | |
| "By definition, one can only | Steve Gerber, |
| go so far in a world between." | Howard the Duck |
| | |
--------------------------------------------------------
P.S. Jellybeans asked me if Howard was related to the other ducks. To him
and anyone else how may wonder; Howard is not related to the ducks. In fact,
he's not even Disney. Howard the Duck looks a lot like Donald Duck, but he
is a Marvel comic character. This comic is (was) a wonderful parody of the
American society in general and superhero comics in particular. D.S.
Fredrik Ekman
Languages
Message 5 -
1993-04-01 at 04:30:17
OK everybody!
Unless anyone has any better suggestions, I will take the responsibility
of editing the International Disney Character Names List. Until anyone
comes up with anything better, the format will be Per Starback's. Mail
any suggestions or additions to what has already been posted to me. My
hope is that a preliminary version will be finished by the end of next
week.
/Fredrik Ekman
--------------------------------------------------------
| | |
| "By definition, one can only | Steve Gerber, |
| go so far in a world between." | Howard the Duck |
| | |
--------------------------------------------------------
Unless anyone has any better suggestions, I will take the responsibility
of editing the International Disney Character Names List. Until anyone
comes up with anything better, the format will be Per Starback's. Mail
any suggestions or additions to what has already been posted to me. My
hope is that a preliminary version will be finished by the end of next
week.
/Fredrik Ekman
--------------------------------------------------------
| | |
| "By definition, one can only | Steve Gerber, |
| go so far in a world between." | Howard the Duck |
| | |
--------------------------------------------------------
Fredrik Ekman
Languages
Message 6 -
1993-04-01 at 14:42:13
About the translation list:
I started editing the thing and a few thoughts struck me. Mostly, they
concern keeping the list down at a acceptable size.
First: When there are several translations of the same character name,
there is really no use in listing them all. Therefore, when you propose
several names to the same character, list the most common/important
first and don't list translations that has appeared only once or a long
time ago. A typical example is that Donald Duck in some early Swedish
translations was called Onkel Magnus. I won't include that name in the
list.
Second: I don't think we (I) should include movie characters that have
only rarely or not at all appeared in comics. Those of Per's listings
that are affected here are: Aristocats, Dumbo, Cinderella, Tinker Bell
and Jiminy Cricket.
Third: Unimportant characters should also be excluded. These include:
Porpy the Porpoise, Little Toot and maybe Captain Churchmouse. Then
there are those that I don't even know who they are: Izzy Wolf, Bucky
Bug and Sylvester Shyster. Are any of those important?
Fourth: I think we should include (that's right, and I won't even delete
every previous entry) those DA cartoon characters that have appeared in
comics. In Sweden, so far as I know, this concerns only Duck Tales and
Rescue Rangers. I know most of these Swedish names, but please post
others to me.
I also plan to make some short utility program to extract two-language
versions of the list. This, however, won't be done until the first
version of the list is finished.
What do you think? Should I include every imaginable Disney character?
And some unimaginable too? Gimme feedback!
/Fredrik Ekman
--------------------------------------------------------
| | |
| "By definition, one can only | Steve Gerber, |
| go so far in a world between." | Howard the Duck |
| | |
--------------------------------------------------------
I started editing the thing and a few thoughts struck me. Mostly, they
concern keeping the list down at a acceptable size.
First: When there are several translations of the same character name,
there is really no use in listing them all. Therefore, when you propose
several names to the same character, list the most common/important
first and don't list translations that has appeared only once or a long
time ago. A typical example is that Donald Duck in some early Swedish
translations was called Onkel Magnus. I won't include that name in the
list.
Second: I don't think we (I) should include movie characters that have
only rarely or not at all appeared in comics. Those of Per's listings
that are affected here are: Aristocats, Dumbo, Cinderella, Tinker Bell
and Jiminy Cricket.
Third: Unimportant characters should also be excluded. These include:
Porpy the Porpoise, Little Toot and maybe Captain Churchmouse. Then
there are those that I don't even know who they are: Izzy Wolf, Bucky
Bug and Sylvester Shyster. Are any of those important?
Fourth: I think we should include (that's right, and I won't even delete
every previous entry) those DA cartoon characters that have appeared in
comics. In Sweden, so far as I know, this concerns only Duck Tales and
Rescue Rangers. I know most of these Swedish names, but please post
others to me.
I also plan to make some short utility program to extract two-language
versions of the list. This, however, won't be done until the first
version of the list is finished.
What do you think? Should I include every imaginable Disney character?
And some unimaginable too? Gimme feedback!
/Fredrik Ekman
--------------------------------------------------------
| | |
| "By definition, one can only | Steve Gerber, |
| go so far in a world between." | Howard the Duck |
| | |
--------------------------------------------------------
Rich.Bellacera
Gladstone and Furries
Message 7 -
1993-04-03 at 10:31:00
Are all Gladstone Disney comics going to be "reprints only"? No new, fresh
material? :-( Don't get me wrong, I like the reprints, especially when we
(in the U.S.) are treated to some of the foriegn market stories, but I find
sort of sad to think that Disney comics are just rehash of old stories. I'd
like to continue to see some modern twists to our favorite furries. I guess
we will still be treated to some new stories featuring Disney's more
contemporary titles (Ducktales, Darkwing Duck, Rescue Rangers, Roger Rabbit,
Bonkers, Goof Troop, Marsupilami, Aladdin, The Little Mermaid, and Tailspin)
only in the digests Disney Adventures and Colossal Comics Collection. I just
wish they'd get rid of that "Jack the Lego-maniac" featurette and replace it
with something else, and that we'd be treated with an occasional Gummi Bears
feature, too. But the stories in these digests are rarely very long and don't
quite have the feel of a full-sized comic. :-(
BTW, someone commented that France's "Disney Babies" features were "for
babies" and I meant to respond, though not to flame. Just to remind him/her
that many people still hold that comics are for babies, too. Despite the
great following that they have in the adult arena. I personally like to share
the Disney Babies golden books and such with my nieces and nephews, as well as
appreciate their history within the Disney company, themselves. I really
think Disney could do much more with them. I have noticed that, of late, they
have expanded the line to include the young versions of Bambi, Thumper and
Flower.
However, speaking of "furries" I was wondering if there was a definition
anywhere concerning exactly "what is a furry?" I recently posted this to
the internet and will share it here too:
----------( Enclosure 1 follows )-------------------------------------------------------------------
I've been wondering if there is a genuine definition of a "furry?" If not
I would like to suggest the following:
furry - (noun) From the usually hirsuit nature of an animal depicted in comics
and animated features. The designated term for any anthropomorphic cartoon
character, usually of the hirsuit variety (bears, mice, dogs, etc.), but may
include amphibians, crustateans, fowl and other normally non-human creatures.
Typical furries include Mickey Mouse, Bugs Bunny, or Yogi Bear. Other, non-
furry furries include Sebastian (TLM), Daffy Duck, and Wally Gator. Also,
normally non-organic "animate" objects may also be considered furries. Such
non-organic animate objects include Benny the Cab (WFRR), Brave Little
Toaster, and Casey Jr. (Disney). Characters who are usually depicted as non-
anthropomorphic furries include Figaro the Kitten (Pinocchio), Pluto the Pup,
and the like. Also, there are those furries which are only temporarily
transformed into furries for a limited or undefined period of time, such as
The Incredible Mr. Limpet, Beast (BaTB), the little boy/cat from Rock-a-
doodle, and even Mrs. Potts (BaTB).
However, I can see where there might be some confusion around characters who
are already one type of furry who are temporarily transformed into another
type of furry. Then there are Semi-Furries like Ariel the Mermaid and non-
Furries, like Mr. Magoo. Or even Xeno-Furries (strange furries) which are
roughly humanoid, but do not correspond to any "real" animal-like creature,
such as Smurfs, Schmoo, Go-Go, and spectral forms like Slimer (The Real Ghost-
busters).
Furry
-Anthropomorphic Furries Others:
-Non-hirsuit Furries -Semi-Furries
-Non-organic Furries -Xeno-Furries
-Non-anthropomorphic Furries -Non-Furries (usually Humans)
-Temporary Furries
Rich the Furry
material? :-( Don't get me wrong, I like the reprints, especially when we
(in the U.S.) are treated to some of the foriegn market stories, but I find
sort of sad to think that Disney comics are just rehash of old stories. I'd
like to continue to see some modern twists to our favorite furries. I guess
we will still be treated to some new stories featuring Disney's more
contemporary titles (Ducktales, Darkwing Duck, Rescue Rangers, Roger Rabbit,
Bonkers, Goof Troop, Marsupilami, Aladdin, The Little Mermaid, and Tailspin)
only in the digests Disney Adventures and Colossal Comics Collection. I just
wish they'd get rid of that "Jack the Lego-maniac" featurette and replace it
with something else, and that we'd be treated with an occasional Gummi Bears
feature, too. But the stories in these digests are rarely very long and don't
quite have the feel of a full-sized comic. :-(
BTW, someone commented that France's "Disney Babies" features were "for
babies" and I meant to respond, though not to flame. Just to remind him/her
that many people still hold that comics are for babies, too. Despite the
great following that they have in the adult arena. I personally like to share
the Disney Babies golden books and such with my nieces and nephews, as well as
appreciate their history within the Disney company, themselves. I really
think Disney could do much more with them. I have noticed that, of late, they
have expanded the line to include the young versions of Bambi, Thumper and
Flower.
However, speaking of "furries" I was wondering if there was a definition
anywhere concerning exactly "what is a furry?" I recently posted this to
the internet and will share it here too:
----------( Enclosure 1 follows )-------------------------------------------------------------------
I've been wondering if there is a genuine definition of a "furry?" If not
I would like to suggest the following:
furry - (noun) From the usually hirsuit nature of an animal depicted in comics
and animated features. The designated term for any anthropomorphic cartoon
character, usually of the hirsuit variety (bears, mice, dogs, etc.), but may
include amphibians, crustateans, fowl and other normally non-human creatures.
Typical furries include Mickey Mouse, Bugs Bunny, or Yogi Bear. Other, non-
furry furries include Sebastian (TLM), Daffy Duck, and Wally Gator. Also,
normally non-organic "animate" objects may also be considered furries. Such
non-organic animate objects include Benny the Cab (WFRR), Brave Little
Toaster, and Casey Jr. (Disney). Characters who are usually depicted as non-
anthropomorphic furries include Figaro the Kitten (Pinocchio), Pluto the Pup,
and the like. Also, there are those furries which are only temporarily
transformed into furries for a limited or undefined period of time, such as
The Incredible Mr. Limpet, Beast (BaTB), the little boy/cat from Rock-a-
doodle, and even Mrs. Potts (BaTB).
However, I can see where there might be some confusion around characters who
are already one type of furry who are temporarily transformed into another
type of furry. Then there are Semi-Furries like Ariel the Mermaid and non-
Furries, like Mr. Magoo. Or even Xeno-Furries (strange furries) which are
roughly humanoid, but do not correspond to any "real" animal-like creature,
such as Smurfs, Schmoo, Go-Go, and spectral forms like Slimer (The Real Ghost-
busters).
Furry
-Anthropomorphic Furries Others:
-Non-hirsuit Furries -Semi-Furries
-Non-organic Furries -Xeno-Furries
-Non-anthropomorphic Furries -Non-Furries (usually Humans)
-Temporary Furries
Rich the Furry
Torsten Wesley Adair
Gladstone shipping schedule
Message 8 -
1993-04-03 at 18:26:05
Source: Comics Buyer's Guide #1013 April 16, 1993 Page 132
Donald Duck's Adventures #21 ships May 10
WDCaS #586 ships May 17
Uncle Scrooge #281 ships May 24
Donald Duck #280 ships June 10
Donald and Mickey ships June 17
Uncle Scrooge Adventures ships June 24
All six cover are shown. Uncle Scrooge show US in the midst of a "mouse
removal project" in his vault. A schematic in back shows the familiar
mouse ears at the estimated location. From the detail of the cover it
looks like Rosa. There is also a hexagonal nut in the pile of money.
The cover to frame as a work of art is Donald and Mickey. It show Donald
the sculptor cleaning his modeling tools as Mickey frowns on Donald's
interpretation of Mickey. I would love to have a copy of that statue!
USA, DDA, and US seem to have Rosa covers. WDCaS looks like Barks, and DD
looks like a typical cover from the movie studio.
Page 102 contains Comics in Your Future, which contains Gladstone.
Gyro Gearloose Stories in Color #2 (Mar) #3 (May) $7.95
Reprints GG Four Color #1047, "The Inventors' Contest" from US #28, and
"War Paint" from US #29.
WDC&S in Color #15 (Mar) #16 (Apr) #17 (May) #18 (June) $8.95
#15 reprints DD stories from WDC&S #102-106.
#16 " " " " " #107-111.
#17 " " " " " #112, 114, 117, 124, 125.
#18 " " " " " #126-130.
DDA #21 (May) $1.50
Reprints "The Secret of of Hondorica" from DD #46. Cover: Rosa
US #281 (May) $1.50
Reprints "The Rainbow Factor" (CB) from WDC&S #155, and "A Matter of
Security" (Danish). Cover: Rosa
WDC&S #586 (May) $1.50
Reprints "Donald Beats the Odds" (CB) from WDC&S #163, and begins
reprinting a 1930's Sunday Mickey Mouse comic strip adventure, "The Lair
of Wolf Barker" by Floyd Gottfredson. Cover: Van Horn
DD #280 (June) $1.50
Reprints "The Amazing Talking Dog" by (CB) from WDC&S #152, and Donald
Duck "Silly Symphony" Sunday newspaper pages from the 1930s by AL
Taliaferro. Cover: Taliaferro.
DaM #19 (June) $1.50
Reprints "Trained Worms" (CB) from WDC&S #153, and "The Case of the Wax
Dummy". Cover: Van Horn
USA #22 (June) $1.50
Reprints "Prize of Pizarro" (CB) from US #26. Cover: Rosa
Torsten torsten at cwis.unomaha.edu Omaha, NE
Donald Duck's Adventures #21 ships May 10
WDCaS #586 ships May 17
Uncle Scrooge #281 ships May 24
Donald Duck #280 ships June 10
Donald and Mickey ships June 17
Uncle Scrooge Adventures ships June 24
All six cover are shown. Uncle Scrooge show US in the midst of a "mouse
removal project" in his vault. A schematic in back shows the familiar
mouse ears at the estimated location. From the detail of the cover it
looks like Rosa. There is also a hexagonal nut in the pile of money.
The cover to frame as a work of art is Donald and Mickey. It show Donald
the sculptor cleaning his modeling tools as Mickey frowns on Donald's
interpretation of Mickey. I would love to have a copy of that statue!
USA, DDA, and US seem to have Rosa covers. WDCaS looks like Barks, and DD
looks like a typical cover from the movie studio.
Page 102 contains Comics in Your Future, which contains Gladstone.
Gyro Gearloose Stories in Color #2 (Mar) #3 (May) $7.95
Reprints GG Four Color #1047, "The Inventors' Contest" from US #28, and
"War Paint" from US #29.
WDC&S in Color #15 (Mar) #16 (Apr) #17 (May) #18 (June) $8.95
#15 reprints DD stories from WDC&S #102-106.
#16 " " " " " #107-111.
#17 " " " " " #112, 114, 117, 124, 125.
#18 " " " " " #126-130.
DDA #21 (May) $1.50
Reprints "The Secret of of Hondorica" from DD #46. Cover: Rosa
US #281 (May) $1.50
Reprints "The Rainbow Factor" (CB) from WDC&S #155, and "A Matter of
Security" (Danish). Cover: Rosa
WDC&S #586 (May) $1.50
Reprints "Donald Beats the Odds" (CB) from WDC&S #163, and begins
reprinting a 1930's Sunday Mickey Mouse comic strip adventure, "The Lair
of Wolf Barker" by Floyd Gottfredson. Cover: Van Horn
DD #280 (June) $1.50
Reprints "The Amazing Talking Dog" by (CB) from WDC&S #152, and Donald
Duck "Silly Symphony" Sunday newspaper pages from the 1930s by AL
Taliaferro. Cover: Taliaferro.
DaM #19 (June) $1.50
Reprints "Trained Worms" (CB) from WDC&S #153, and "The Case of the Wax
Dummy". Cover: Van Horn
USA #22 (June) $1.50
Reprints "Prize of Pizarro" (CB) from US #26. Cover: Rosa
Torsten torsten at cwis.unomaha.edu Omaha, NE
HATHAWAY
Furry question
Message 9 -
1993-04-05 at 21:22:58
Hi all -
I've been reading this group for months but have not said much.
I've read Disney Duck for almost forty years and still have a
subscription.
Today I have a totally different question. In the Sunday comics
section of my local newspaper (The Washington Post), the strip
'Out-Land' with Opus the penguin, had an observation that was
shocking. A cartoon character asked why, except for the
occasional love interest, virtually ALL the leading animal 'toon
characters were male. And one would be hard pressed to find
any counter-examples. All our favorite leading characters in the
Disney world are male. While we all love Grandma Duck, Daisy,
Minnie, ..., they are the exceptions, and rarely get staring
roles. The only (non-Disney) cartoon animal? I can think of
is Broomhilda, who is not exactly non-human, though not exactly
human. In the Disney world, there is The Little Mermaid, and
Beauty, but she is human.
Is there anything to this observation? Is the comic world
on the verge of a whole new advance, where female animal
stars will be successful? Or will we continue to be confined
to the male only realm???
Regards,
Wm. Hathaway
I've been reading this group for months but have not said much.
I've read Disney Duck for almost forty years and still have a
subscription.
Today I have a totally different question. In the Sunday comics
section of my local newspaper (The Washington Post), the strip
'Out-Land' with Opus the penguin, had an observation that was
shocking. A cartoon character asked why, except for the
occasional love interest, virtually ALL the leading animal 'toon
characters were male. And one would be hard pressed to find
any counter-examples. All our favorite leading characters in the
Disney world are male. While we all love Grandma Duck, Daisy,
Minnie, ..., they are the exceptions, and rarely get staring
roles. The only (non-Disney) cartoon animal? I can think of
is Broomhilda, who is not exactly non-human, though not exactly
human. In the Disney world, there is The Little Mermaid, and
Beauty, but she is human.
Is there anything to this observation? Is the comic world
on the verge of a whole new advance, where female animal
stars will be successful? Or will we continue to be confined
to the male only realm???
Regards,
Wm. Hathaway
Wilmer Rivers
Female "furries"
Message 10 -
1993-04-06 at 00:02:38
William Hathaway writes:
> A cartoon character asked why, except for the
> occasional love interest, virtually ALL the leading animal 'toon
> characters were male. And one would be hard pressed to find
> any counter-examples. All our favorite leading characters in the
> Disney world are male. While we all love Grandma Duck, Daisy,
> Minnie, ..., they are the exceptions, and rarely get staring
> roles. The only (non-Disney) cartoon animal? I can think of
> is Broomhilda, who is not exactly non-human, though not exactly
> human. In the Disney world, there is The Little Mermaid, and
> Beauty, but she is human.
An animal heroine in the Disney universe is Lady, who gets first
billing ahead of the Tramp. You might expect there to be a lot
more, given the number of female animals prominent in children's
literature (Black Beauty, Charlotte's Web, etc.). Does Jessica
Rabbit count as a furry animal? :)
There has been a lot of talk in the comics world lately about why
Bugs Bunny dressed up like a female in so many cartoons...
In the comics world of furry annimals, but about as far from the
Disney universe as it's possible to get, perhaps the second most
popular furry (next to the male Cerebus) is the female Omaha,
the Cat Dancer.
Wilmer Rivers
rivers at seismo.css.gov
> A cartoon character asked why, except for the
> occasional love interest, virtually ALL the leading animal 'toon
> characters were male. And one would be hard pressed to find
> any counter-examples. All our favorite leading characters in the
> Disney world are male. While we all love Grandma Duck, Daisy,
> Minnie, ..., they are the exceptions, and rarely get staring
> roles. The only (non-Disney) cartoon animal? I can think of
> is Broomhilda, who is not exactly non-human, though not exactly
> human. In the Disney world, there is The Little Mermaid, and
> Beauty, but she is human.
An animal heroine in the Disney universe is Lady, who gets first
billing ahead of the Tramp. You might expect there to be a lot
more, given the number of female animals prominent in children's
literature (Black Beauty, Charlotte's Web, etc.). Does Jessica
Rabbit count as a furry animal? :)
There has been a lot of talk in the comics world lately about why
Bugs Bunny dressed up like a female in so many cartoons...
In the comics world of furry annimals, but about as far from the
Disney universe as it's possible to get, perhaps the second most
popular furry (next to the male Cerebus) is the female Omaha,
the Cat Dancer.
Wilmer Rivers
rivers at seismo.css.gov
Torsten Wesley Adair
Furries
Message 11 -
1993-04-06 at 01:06:17
Remember, Lassie, who is a female character, was portrayed in the movies
and on television by an actor. That's right, Lassie the actor was a S.O.B.!
Does Bianca of the Rescuers count as a leading role?
What about the ballerinas in Dance of the Hours?
Betty Boop might qualify, as she was literally a dog when she
first started performing for the Fleischer Brothers. It's amazing what
they could do with plastic surgery back then...
What was Clarabelle the Cow's role in the early Disney
cartoons/comics?
My favorite furry is a chenille bathrobe worn by a _very_ special friend.
Torsten Adair torsten at cwis.unomaha.edu Omaha, NE
and on television by an actor. That's right, Lassie the actor was a S.O.B.!
Does Bianca of the Rescuers count as a leading role?
What about the ballerinas in Dance of the Hours?
Betty Boop might qualify, as she was literally a dog when she
first started performing for the Fleischer Brothers. It's amazing what
they could do with plastic surgery back then...
What was Clarabelle the Cow's role in the early Disney
cartoons/comics?
My favorite furry is a chenille bathrobe worn by a _very_ special friend.
Torsten Adair torsten at cwis.unomaha.edu Omaha, NE
Rich.Bellacera
Gladstone and Furries
Message 12 -
1993-04-06 at 09:26:00
> I think Disney Babies is a copy of Muppet Babies. I liked the TV series of
> them, but that's not enough to long for a baby version of everything...
>
> > Rich the Furry
>
> Ah, but you were "not a duck". What kind of furry are you then?
>
> --Harry (age 30)
There is no "current" Disney Babies TV series, though there have been TV
commercials featuring Tom Bosley's voice and great animated renditions (on par
with Who Framed Roger Rabbit) of the Disney Babies interacting with Live
Action sets, people and pets.
No, I am "not a duck", but I'm definitely a teddy-bear (not chubby tho).
-- Rich (age 32)
BTW, my favorite Disney Animated Furry female is the selacious cervine named
"Fawn Deer" (sort a blend of Betty Boop, Bambi and Jessica Rabbit). Enormous
ears, but what a bod! She's from the series "Disney's Raw Toonage" featured
in HE'S BONKERS!
> them, but that's not enough to long for a baby version of everything...
>
> > Rich the Furry
>
> Ah, but you were "not a duck". What kind of furry are you then?
>
> --Harry (age 30)
There is no "current" Disney Babies TV series, though there have been TV
commercials featuring Tom Bosley's voice and great animated renditions (on par
with Who Framed Roger Rabbit) of the Disney Babies interacting with Live
Action sets, people and pets.
No, I am "not a duck", but I'm definitely a teddy-bear (not chubby tho).
-- Rich (age 32)
BTW, my favorite Disney Animated Furry female is the selacious cervine named
"Fawn Deer" (sort a blend of Betty Boop, Bambi and Jessica Rabbit). Enormous
ears, but what a bod! She's from the series "Disney's Raw Toonage" featured
in HE'S BONKERS!
Luigi Bevilacqua
Female "furries"
Message 13 -
1993-04-06 at 16:19:29
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Hi,
William Hathaway writes:
> A cartoon character asked why, except for the
> occasional love interest, virtually ALL the leading animal 'toon
> characters were male. And one would be hard pressed to find
> any counter-examples. All our favorite leading characters in the
> Disney world are male.
In my opinion the matter is funning.
When we talk about 'toon-character' often we are looking for
funning, humour. And we are not accustomed to find them in a female.
For us it is easy to recognize strength, honor, justice, humour,
friendship, coscience, wisedom in male.
In a female we want beauty, feelings, love, sex ...
In fact funny (furry) females are very rare, because for us it is "strange".
In Disney comics I remeber the witch who wants to convince Goofy
what she is (sorry, I don't remember the English name...), of course
she is funny and not beautiful.
BYE!!!
.
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| TH...TH...THAT'S ALL, FOLKS! Luigi <bevilal at ghost.dsi.unimi.it> |
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Hi,
William Hathaway writes:
> A cartoon character asked why, except for the
> occasional love interest, virtually ALL the leading animal 'toon
> characters were male. And one would be hard pressed to find
> any counter-examples. All our favorite leading characters in the
> Disney world are male.
In my opinion the matter is funning.
When we talk about 'toon-character' often we are looking for
funning, humour. And we are not accustomed to find them in a female.
For us it is easy to recognize strength, honor, justice, humour,
friendship, coscience, wisedom in male.
In a female we want beauty, feelings, love, sex ...
In fact funny (furry) females are very rare, because for us it is "strange".
In Disney comics I remeber the witch who wants to convince Goofy
what she is (sorry, I don't remember the English name...), of course
she is funny and not beautiful.
BYE!!!
.
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| TH...TH...THAT'S ALL, FOLKS! Luigi <bevilal at ghost.dsi.unimi.it> |
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Harry Fluks
Gladstone and Furries
Message 14 -
1993-04-06 at 19:03:37
> Are all Gladstone Disney comics going to be "reprints only"? No new, fresh
> material? :-( Don't get me wrong, I like the reprints, especially when we
> (in the U.S.) are treated to some of the foriegn market stories, but I find
> sort of sad to think that Disney comics are just rehash of old stories. I'd
> like to continue to see some modern twists to our favorite furries.
I didn't like the new stories Disney Comics made of Roger Rabbit, TaleSpin etc.
I also wouldn't call my favorite Disney comic characters 'furries'. That word
reminds me of (pet) animals, and in my eyes, Donald, Mickey etc. were *not*
animals. They were humans, but they looked a bit like animals.
Maybe I'm too old for innovations in Disney comics, but I like the comic
stories of the 50s (Barks, Murry, Strobl, etc.) and the new stories done in
the same style (Rosa, Jippes, Rota etc.).
> BTW, someone commented that France's "Disney Babies" features were "for
> babies" and I meant to respond, though not to flame.
I made that comment. I was talking about the *comics* (I have never seen
a Disney Babies TV program). It was just a provoking remark, in an attempt
to get some reaction...
The Disney Babies comics were published in Holland in a Disney magazine
for children of age 2 to 6. Most stories are with very little text, so
parents could read them to their children. The French (and also the S-coded,
hence American) Disney Babies one-pagers fit in this magazine perfectly.
> Just to remind him/her
> that many people still hold that comics are for babies, too. Despite the
> great following that they have in the adult arena.
Well, *some* comics are for babies. People stating that "all comics are for
babies" are wrong, but people stating that "all comics are for adults"
are wrong, too.
> I personally like to share
> the Disney Babies golden books and such with my nieces and nephews, as well as
> appreciate their history within the Disney company, themselves. I really
> think Disney could do much more with them. I have noticed that, of late, they
> have expanded the line to include the young versions of Bambi, Thumper and
> Flower.
I think Disney Babies is a copy of Muppet Babies. I liked the TV series of
them, but that's not enough to long for a baby version of everything...
> Rich the Furry
Ah, but you were "not a duck". What kind of furry are you then?
--Harry (age 30)
Harry Fluks ()_() Dutch Disney comics freak
PTT Research, Leidschendam (_) H.W.Fluks at research.ptt.nl
"Yeah... I've _heard_ of coral barques!"
> material? :-( Don't get me wrong, I like the reprints, especially when we
> (in the U.S.) are treated to some of the foriegn market stories, but I find
> sort of sad to think that Disney comics are just rehash of old stories. I'd
> like to continue to see some modern twists to our favorite furries.
I didn't like the new stories Disney Comics made of Roger Rabbit, TaleSpin etc.
I also wouldn't call my favorite Disney comic characters 'furries'. That word
reminds me of (pet) animals, and in my eyes, Donald, Mickey etc. were *not*
animals. They were humans, but they looked a bit like animals.
Maybe I'm too old for innovations in Disney comics, but I like the comic
stories of the 50s (Barks, Murry, Strobl, etc.) and the new stories done in
the same style (Rosa, Jippes, Rota etc.).
> BTW, someone commented that France's "Disney Babies" features were "for
> babies" and I meant to respond, though not to flame.
I made that comment. I was talking about the *comics* (I have never seen
a Disney Babies TV program). It was just a provoking remark, in an attempt
to get some reaction...
The Disney Babies comics were published in Holland in a Disney magazine
for children of age 2 to 6. Most stories are with very little text, so
parents could read them to their children. The French (and also the S-coded,
hence American) Disney Babies one-pagers fit in this magazine perfectly.
> Just to remind him/her
> that many people still hold that comics are for babies, too. Despite the
> great following that they have in the adult arena.
Well, *some* comics are for babies. People stating that "all comics are for
babies" are wrong, but people stating that "all comics are for adults"
are wrong, too.
> I personally like to share
> the Disney Babies golden books and such with my nieces and nephews, as well as
> appreciate their history within the Disney company, themselves. I really
> think Disney could do much more with them. I have noticed that, of late, they
> have expanded the line to include the young versions of Bambi, Thumper and
> Flower.
I think Disney Babies is a copy of Muppet Babies. I liked the TV series of
them, but that's not enough to long for a baby version of everything...
> Rich the Furry
Ah, but you were "not a duck". What kind of furry are you then?
--Harry (age 30)
Harry Fluks ()_() Dutch Disney comics freak
PTT Research, Leidschendam (_) H.W.Fluks at research.ptt.nl
"Yeah... I've _heard_ of coral barques!"
Harry Fluks
Furries
Message 15 -
1993-04-06 at 19:08:53
Torsten asked:
> What was Clarabelle Cow's role in the early Disney cartoons?
Victim. The mice did every possible (and impossible) thing with her...
--Harry.
> What was Clarabelle Cow's role in the early Disney cartoons?
Victim. The mice did every possible (and impossible) thing with her...
--Harry.