Dear Disney comics mail list digest,
Hello... I have a smattering of questions for Don or anyone else
who wishes to respond. But, first I what to reply to some of the
following...
Don wrote:
>From: Don Rosa <72260.2635 at CompuServe.com>
>Comments on the last digest:
>(Only the DUCKTALES stories are imaginary. I'd love to do a
>story where DUCKTALES is an unauthorized TV series in Duckberg
>based on $crooge's life, and $crooge must sue the creators of the
>show for slander.)
Hey, I think we all love to see this story!
>Yes, I didn't need Roep to tell me my art sucks. I dislike my
>art no end. But I'm no professional cartoonist.... I'm just
>another Barks fan living a dream while they let me. I am
>constantly puzzled as to why my stories are SO popular, first in
>America, and now the world over. Why don't people prefer all those
>NICELY drawn stories? The only answer I can see must involve my
>overly detailed art.... readers seem to sense how much fun I'm
>having and how much extra work I put into every panel, and they
>enjoy it along with me ...? Anyway, that's all I can figure.
From one artist (well.. okay, art-student!) to another. An artist
is his/her own worst critic! I've seen many other so-called
"professional cartoonist" with a lot less skill, resourcefulness
and/or sincerity in all that they say or do. But you have to admit
if you were as BIG a `No-Talent' as you think -- you wouldn't have
gotten as far as you have. We, as fans, realize the extra care
that you put in not only your artwork, but your stories as well.
So, lighten up and don't be so hard on yourself (if we didn't like
what we're seeing we wouldn't be buying!!)
>Gil Milburn: You're the guy from Bardstown?
Yes, I am the guy from Bardstown!
>Have we met or been in contact before?
Yes, we've met a couple of times and we have also spoken on the
phone many times (though not recently).
>Where are you now did you say?
I am at Campbellsville College (a zillion miles from anywhere!).
>And thanks for all the extraordinarily nice things you say about
>me!!!
Your quite welcome....
Don, you also said..
>That's one reason that I know Disney can never succeed in their
>constant meddling with the existence of these Dell characters and
>with my career in handling them --
Good!.. keep up the excellent work!
Here is some information that was in..
> April 6, 1993 The Comics List Weekly Vol. 3 No. 14 (Part 8 [?])
> This Week:
> Gladstone : Rosa's work - You don't know what you're missing
> Date: 05 Apr 93 14:29:02 EDT
> From: James Williams <70304.2462 at CompuServe.COM>
> Subject: Don Rosa and Egmont
> Gilbert asked about Don Rosa's European work. Egmont, the
> world's second largest comic book publisher, holds most of the
> international licenses for Disney's characters. Almost
> everything Don Rosa does, except for special covers and
> illustrations, is for Egmont. All of the Don Rosa stories
> published by Disney Comics, were actually done for Egmont.
> There is a clause in Egmont's license which gives them
> something like one year of exclusive use for their stories.
> After that time, Disney Comics gains the rights to publish
> these stories.
Hmmm.. sounds pretty thorough (Don has mentioned to me before that
he dose some stories only for the European market) -- nevertheless
how accurate is this? and how long is it before Gladstone gains the
rights to publish these stories in America?
James went on to say...
> For the last year or so, Don Rosa has been focusing his
> attention on one massive project called The Life of Uncle
> Scrooge. It is a multi-chapter story which tells the story of
> Scrooges childhood.
Don, how far a long are you on this project?
Also in the same edition our own Per Starback
<starback at student.docs.uu.se> Uppsala, Sweden. write:
> Most of Rosa's "European stories" have been published in the
> USA except for his series on Scrooge's youth.
Sounds a little like the publication(s) James described (is it?).
Will this ever be available in the U.S.? If not would any of you
over-seas collectors be interested in trading this book (or any
other stories we Yanks may not have) for copies of "The Captain
Kentucky Collections" (Volumes I-III) or the two "The
Pertwillaby(sp?) Papers"?
p.s. Per, I already have that addition of C-L you sent me. I still
appreciate all the help you've given me lately.
Gil Milburn<gilbert at unix.campbellsvile.edu.>
Author
Topic: 199304
(103 messages)
Gilbert Milburn
Disney-coimcs-digest!!
Message 91 -
1993-04-27 at 20:43:00
Tom Tanida
Don Rosa fund
Message 92 -
1993-04-28 at 00:26:04
>Don Rosa:
>
>> Well, this can't go on much longer! Each time I glance at and answer
>> even these digests, it's costing me about $4-$5 since I'm not using
>> TAPCIS or anything (never needed it till now).
>
> "
>Per Starback:
>
>> What is TAPCIS? I really hope you won't leave us. What do you all
>> say? Should we create a D.O.N. fund (= Don On the Net) to keep him
>> here if we D.O.N.-ate enough?
>
> Yes, let's give it the motto "Donate U.s. Currency for Keno" (Keno being
> Don's first name). Don could even advertise this himself by putting
> "D.U.C.K." in the first panels of his stories...
>
> But how could we get the money to Don?
>
> Isn't there a way to do things cheaper, e.g. downloading messages, off-line
> editing, uploading the answers?
Some comments here:
1. Compuserve charges on a per-message basis for mail sent TO the Internet
and mail sent FROM the Internet. So if you subscribe to an Internet
mailing list, it adds up at the rate of $0.30 or so per message, even
if you don't mail out. (Personally, I think Compuserve (CIS) is extortionate
in this regard.) In this sense, TAPCIS or any other program doesn't
help much.
2. There are two primary methods of billing on CIS (in the US at least).
One method is "basic services" which is $8.95/month, and includes a $9.00
credit for e-mail messages and free connect time in the e-mail section,
but another $8/hr in the forums. The other method is to just pay $12.80/hr
all the time everywhere, but no monthly fee. For the
latter, TAPCIS would help if one normally reads and replies online.
For the former, TAPCIS/etc. does not matter, but can help you DL all
your messages as a group for convenience. If you use CIS a decent amount,
there's no reason not to have basic services. Again, these are the
fees in the US; I don't know about elsewhere.
3. If America Online, which is another network service, is available
overseas (I don't think it is- maybe someone else knows; I'll
try to find out), it has no charge for mail to and from the Internet.
4. I don't know how Mr. Rosa is handling this list, but if he's getting
all messages one by one from the Internet to CIS, perhaps he should
unsubscribe, have the list maintainer (or some willing soul) send all
the messages that come through here in a single file or two
each day or every other day. I think there's a 100K limit on the
size of a message to CIS, but the traffic on this list doesn't surpass that.
cutting down on the per message cost, then reply in a single message
as a group.
If he's getting a lot of personal Internet messages as
a consequence of being "discovered" on this list, I guess that's up to him
to decide what to do (e.g. hide his CIS address from any replies by
having someone else post his replies to the group, etc.).
-Tom
>
>> Well, this can't go on much longer! Each time I glance at and answer
>> even these digests, it's costing me about $4-$5 since I'm not using
>> TAPCIS or anything (never needed it till now).
>
> "
>Per Starback:
>
>> What is TAPCIS? I really hope you won't leave us. What do you all
>> say? Should we create a D.O.N. fund (= Don On the Net) to keep him
>> here if we D.O.N.-ate enough?
>
> Yes, let's give it the motto "Donate U.s. Currency for Keno" (Keno being
> Don's first name). Don could even advertise this himself by putting
> "D.U.C.K." in the first panels of his stories...
>
> But how could we get the money to Don?
>
> Isn't there a way to do things cheaper, e.g. downloading messages, off-line
> editing, uploading the answers?
Some comments here:
1. Compuserve charges on a per-message basis for mail sent TO the Internet
and mail sent FROM the Internet. So if you subscribe to an Internet
mailing list, it adds up at the rate of $0.30 or so per message, even
if you don't mail out. (Personally, I think Compuserve (CIS) is extortionate
in this regard.) In this sense, TAPCIS or any other program doesn't
help much.
2. There are two primary methods of billing on CIS (in the US at least).
One method is "basic services" which is $8.95/month, and includes a $9.00
credit for e-mail messages and free connect time in the e-mail section,
but another $8/hr in the forums. The other method is to just pay $12.80/hr
all the time everywhere, but no monthly fee. For the
latter, TAPCIS would help if one normally reads and replies online.
For the former, TAPCIS/etc. does not matter, but can help you DL all
your messages as a group for convenience. If you use CIS a decent amount,
there's no reason not to have basic services. Again, these are the
fees in the US; I don't know about elsewhere.
3. If America Online, which is another network service, is available
overseas (I don't think it is- maybe someone else knows; I'll
try to find out), it has no charge for mail to and from the Internet.
4. I don't know how Mr. Rosa is handling this list, but if he's getting
all messages one by one from the Internet to CIS, perhaps he should
unsubscribe, have the list maintainer (or some willing soul) send all
the messages that come through here in a single file or two
each day or every other day. I think there's a 100K limit on the
size of a message to CIS, but the traffic on this list doesn't surpass that.
cutting down on the per message cost, then reply in a single message
as a group.
If he's getting a lot of personal Internet messages as
a consequence of being "discovered" on this list, I guess that's up to him
to decide what to do (e.g. hide his CIS address from any replies by
having someone else post his replies to the group, etc.).
-Tom
Don Rosa
Disney comics mailing list digest #7
Message 93 -
1993-04-28 at 16:32:12
COMMENTS ON DIGEST 6 --
As for me ever doing a Mickey Mouse story, there's no chance of that. There's no reason for me to. I am totally apathetic toward
the character as being simply a cute configuration of lines. There's no personality. Sure, in the hands of another Barks, Mickey
would become a WONDERFUL character. Look what he did with Donald... all he got from Disney was a slapstick hothead who threw walnuts at
Chip n' Dale. What Dell/Barks did with the character is a miracle. I'll be glad to do a Mickey Mouse story after someone else writes
and draws classic Mickey comics for 25 years and gets me interested in those cute ink lines. As of right now... feh.
HARRY FLUKS: I keep forgetting -- do you have access to the Dutch comics??? I would DEARLY love to get copies of the issues reprinting
my stories. I don't get a red cent in royalties off those multi-millions in world sales, but I try to at least get copies of the issues!
And nix on this "fund for Don Rosa" stuff. Sure, I can AFFORD to pay $5 each day to converse on this net, but there's just not that
much reason to. I mean, it's great, but not at $150 per month! I wouldn't accept any money to pay bills that I can pay myself. That
would be a terrible thing to do... like extortion (I'd be no better than COMPUSERVE!). But thanks for the offer. I'll try to hold out
on here a bit longer and see what the bills will look like.
I just printed out digest #7 and have yet to read it. But one comment flashed by saying that Egmont was the world's SECOND bigger
publisher of comics. I'd like to know who'e bigger. For that matter, I'd like to know who's a bigger publisher of anything than
Egmont with it's 100 companies publishing all the best selling everything all over the world and several other places. Who?
As for me ever doing a Mickey Mouse story, there's no chance of that. There's no reason for me to. I am totally apathetic toward
the character as being simply a cute configuration of lines. There's no personality. Sure, in the hands of another Barks, Mickey
would become a WONDERFUL character. Look what he did with Donald... all he got from Disney was a slapstick hothead who threw walnuts at
Chip n' Dale. What Dell/Barks did with the character is a miracle. I'll be glad to do a Mickey Mouse story after someone else writes
and draws classic Mickey comics for 25 years and gets me interested in those cute ink lines. As of right now... feh.
HARRY FLUKS: I keep forgetting -- do you have access to the Dutch comics??? I would DEARLY love to get copies of the issues reprinting
my stories. I don't get a red cent in royalties off those multi-millions in world sales, but I try to at least get copies of the issues!
And nix on this "fund for Don Rosa" stuff. Sure, I can AFFORD to pay $5 each day to converse on this net, but there's just not that
much reason to. I mean, it's great, but not at $150 per month! I wouldn't accept any money to pay bills that I can pay myself. That
would be a terrible thing to do... like extortion (I'd be no better than COMPUSERVE!). But thanks for the offer. I'll try to hold out
on here a bit longer and see what the bills will look like.
I just printed out digest #7 and have yet to read it. But one comment flashed by saying that Egmont was the world's SECOND bigger
publisher of comics. I'd like to know who'e bigger. For that matter, I'd like to know who's a bigger publisher of anything than
Egmont with it's 100 companies publishing all the best selling everything all over the world and several other places. Who?
Per Starback
Mickey, net access
Message 94 -
1993-04-29 at 00:18:41
Don Rosa:
> As for me ever doing a Mickey Mouse story, there's no chance of
> that. There's no reason for me to. I am totally apathetic toward the
> character as being simply a cute configuration of lines. [ ... ]
> I'll be glad to do a Mickey Mouse story after someone else writes
> and draws classic Mickey comics for 25 years and gets me interested in
> those cute ink lines. As of right now... feh.
What about Floyd Gottfredson then?
As for the Mouse in *comic books* I agree more of less. The Mickey
Mouse serials in WDC (but I read them in Swedish Kalle Anka of course)
drawn by Paul Murry and other Mouse stories lacked that extra touch.
This feeling just got stronger when I learned that Paul Murry was sick
tired of doing the comics and kept doing it only for the money.
> And nix on this "fund for Don Rosa" stuff. [ ... ] I'll try to hold
> out on here a bit longer and see what the bills will look like.
Yeah sure, *I* wouldn't pay anything anyway as those who know me will
realize :-), but I guess something should be done. Anyone who wants
to use internet email regularly ought to get that service some other
way than through Compu$erve I guess. From a list (nixpub) of
Public/Open Access UNIX Sites I searched for Louisville (isn't that
were you live, or am I mixing it up?) and found:
>Updated System Speed
>Last Telephone # Name Location Range Hours
>----- ---------------- ---------- ------------------ --------- -----
>[ ... ]
>03/93 502-231-5908 compunet Louisville KY 300-FAST 24
> 386 clone, Interactive System V 3.2, 2 gig. Also 502-231-5910, both lines
> support V.32 and HST. Carrying most USENET groups, Shell access, multi-user
> games( including The Realm(c) ) multi-user chat, downloads including the
> AB20 and SIMTEL20 CD-ROMS, and more. Rate info available via a guest
> information account.
It doesn't mention mail in that description, but in the short version
of that list the entry is:
>03/93 502-231-5908 compunet Louisville KY 300-FAST 24 -$ HMNTV
where the M stands for Mail.
I don't know anything else about compunet but the point is that there
are resources like that all around (in the US) which are much cheaper
than Compu$erve for things like ordinary email.
Tom Tanida mentioned that Compu$erve charges per message, so that it
would help if someone "send all the messages that come through here in
a single file or two each day or every other day". That's what I do
(once a day), so anyone who'd like to receive the list in that fashion
instead just has to ask me about it (and that's why you see Don and
others referring to what someone wrote in digest #this-or-that.
There are several things that has more to do with Disney Comics that
I'd like to comment on, but I'd like to check some facts and quotes
with my library first, and I've been at work for all day today (still
am), so that'll have to wait.
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at student.docs.uu.se
"Ta ta, boys! I'll see you in the funny papers!"
> As for me ever doing a Mickey Mouse story, there's no chance of
> that. There's no reason for me to. I am totally apathetic toward the
> character as being simply a cute configuration of lines. [ ... ]
> I'll be glad to do a Mickey Mouse story after someone else writes
> and draws classic Mickey comics for 25 years and gets me interested in
> those cute ink lines. As of right now... feh.
What about Floyd Gottfredson then?
As for the Mouse in *comic books* I agree more of less. The Mickey
Mouse serials in WDC (but I read them in Swedish Kalle Anka of course)
drawn by Paul Murry and other Mouse stories lacked that extra touch.
This feeling just got stronger when I learned that Paul Murry was sick
tired of doing the comics and kept doing it only for the money.
> And nix on this "fund for Don Rosa" stuff. [ ... ] I'll try to hold
> out on here a bit longer and see what the bills will look like.
Yeah sure, *I* wouldn't pay anything anyway as those who know me will
realize :-), but I guess something should be done. Anyone who wants
to use internet email regularly ought to get that service some other
way than through Compu$erve I guess. From a list (nixpub) of
Public/Open Access UNIX Sites I searched for Louisville (isn't that
were you live, or am I mixing it up?) and found:
>Updated System Speed
>Last Telephone # Name Location Range Hours
>----- ---------------- ---------- ------------------ --------- -----
>[ ... ]
>03/93 502-231-5908 compunet Louisville KY 300-FAST 24
> 386 clone, Interactive System V 3.2, 2 gig. Also 502-231-5910, both lines
> support V.32 and HST. Carrying most USENET groups, Shell access, multi-user
> games( including The Realm(c) ) multi-user chat, downloads including the
> AB20 and SIMTEL20 CD-ROMS, and more. Rate info available via a guest
> information account.
It doesn't mention mail in that description, but in the short version
of that list the entry is:
>03/93 502-231-5908 compunet Louisville KY 300-FAST 24 -$ HMNTV
where the M stands for Mail.
I don't know anything else about compunet but the point is that there
are resources like that all around (in the US) which are much cheaper
than Compu$erve for things like ordinary email.
Tom Tanida mentioned that Compu$erve charges per message, so that it
would help if someone "send all the messages that come through here in
a single file or two each day or every other day". That's what I do
(once a day), so anyone who'd like to receive the list in that fashion
instead just has to ask me about it (and that's why you see Don and
others referring to what someone wrote in digest #this-or-that.
There are several things that has more to do with Disney Comics that
I'd like to comment on, but I'd like to check some facts and quotes
with my library first, and I've been at work for all day today (still
am), so that'll have to wait.
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at student.docs.uu.se
"Ta ta, boys! I'll see you in the funny papers!"
James Williams
Egmont #2
Message 95 -
1993-04-29 at 02:55:07
Don,
I'm the person who said that Egmont is the worlds second largest comic
publisher. I won't dispute that Egmont is the largest publisher in the
world, but I'm pretty sure that their only #2 when it comes to comics.
There is one company (the publihser of Shogun Jump (sp?)) in Japan who
produces a massive amount of manga on a weekly basis. They are suppose
to be the largest.
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I'm the person who said that Egmont is the worlds second largest comic
publisher. I won't dispute that Egmont is the largest publisher in the
world, but I'm pretty sure that their only #2 when it comes to comics.
There is one company (the publihser of Shogun Jump (sp?)) in Japan who
produces a massive amount of manga on a weekly basis. They are suppose
to be the largest.
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Gilbert Milburn
A little idea for Don!
Message 96 -
1993-04-29 at 02:55:21
Dear friends of the net (one and all),
I think I may have an idea that Don could look into, that might
save him some out-of-pocket expenses. Don, do you think that U. of
L. (or some other Louisville-based college) would let you use their
inter-net-email services (if they have it)? Perhaps you could
check to find out.
Just wondering,
Gil Milburn<gilbert at unix.campbellsvil.edu>
I think I may have an idea that Don could look into, that might
save him some out-of-pocket expenses. Don, do you think that U. of
L. (or some other Louisville-based college) would let you use their
inter-net-email services (if they have it)? Perhaps you could
check to find out.
Just wondering,
Gil Milburn<gilbert at unix.campbellsvil.edu>
Don Rosa
Digest #8
Message 97 -
1993-04-29 at 16:45:26
COMMENTS ON DIGEST #7:
Gil Milburn: Oh, sure, I remember you well now! You da guy who offered me tickets to the, whatchacallit, Daniel Boone Story play or
whatever they have there in Bardstown. Yeah!
What was this comment from someone (Gil?) about a mention in something called COMICS LIST WEEKLY. What is that? And what did it say?
Was that one snippet the whole bit? They don't spend much time talking about Disney comics in America, lest they be regarded as halfwits
by all the quarter-wits who are doing the comic buying in this country.
Someone asked how far along I am in "The Life and Times of $crooge McDuck". I thought we'd gone over that? Anyway, in the supposedly
12-part 210+ page story, I'm finishing up part 10 which involves $crooge, a mere billionaire, moving to the tiny shanty-hut village
of Fort Duckburg.
And somebody was wondering how long it is before Gladstone can reprint any of my Euro stories. Gladstone, or ANY non-Egmont country
in the world can print any Egmont story one day after Egmont uses it first... and as soon as Egmont feels like sending them photostats
of it. Same goes for the material produced in Holland or Italy (those are the other producers of Disney/Duck comics... especially the
latter even though they are Disney comics as if done by Harvey artists, which is not at ALL to my liking).
And Fredrik Ekman says that he likes my non-sequel stories best? This is not uncommon amoung Europeans to some extent... and I can
see a reasoning behind it; the classic stories are better left alone than tampered with. But I thought two of my very best stories
were "Return to Plain Awful" and "...to Xanadu". What was wrong with those sequels? I was mighty proud of those.
But one thing I've found out for sure: every story I do is SOMEBODY'S absolute favorite of all time, no matter what it is. There's
no explaining what it is about a comic story (or anything else) that appeals to certain people in certain ways for certain reasons.
My question: how many people are on this network? These digests are not short, but they seem to be the work of the same few people
each time.
Oh... yes, I'd heard of a Japan company that sells lots of comics... certainly many times more than any single Egmont branch. But
do they sell as many as Egmont does from Germany to China??? From Iceland to Bulgaria?
Gil Milburn: Oh, sure, I remember you well now! You da guy who offered me tickets to the, whatchacallit, Daniel Boone Story play or
whatever they have there in Bardstown. Yeah!
What was this comment from someone (Gil?) about a mention in something called COMICS LIST WEEKLY. What is that? And what did it say?
Was that one snippet the whole bit? They don't spend much time talking about Disney comics in America, lest they be regarded as halfwits
by all the quarter-wits who are doing the comic buying in this country.
Someone asked how far along I am in "The Life and Times of $crooge McDuck". I thought we'd gone over that? Anyway, in the supposedly
12-part 210+ page story, I'm finishing up part 10 which involves $crooge, a mere billionaire, moving to the tiny shanty-hut village
of Fort Duckburg.
And somebody was wondering how long it is before Gladstone can reprint any of my Euro stories. Gladstone, or ANY non-Egmont country
in the world can print any Egmont story one day after Egmont uses it first... and as soon as Egmont feels like sending them photostats
of it. Same goes for the material produced in Holland or Italy (those are the other producers of Disney/Duck comics... especially the
latter even though they are Disney comics as if done by Harvey artists, which is not at ALL to my liking).
And Fredrik Ekman says that he likes my non-sequel stories best? This is not uncommon amoung Europeans to some extent... and I can
see a reasoning behind it; the classic stories are better left alone than tampered with. But I thought two of my very best stories
were "Return to Plain Awful" and "...to Xanadu". What was wrong with those sequels? I was mighty proud of those.
But one thing I've found out for sure: every story I do is SOMEBODY'S absolute favorite of all time, no matter what it is. There's
no explaining what it is about a comic story (or anything else) that appeals to certain people in certain ways for certain reasons.
My question: how many people are on this network? These digests are not short, but they seem to be the work of the same few people
each time.
Oh... yes, I'd heard of a Japan company that sells lots of comics... certainly many times more than any single Egmont branch. But
do they sell as many as Egmont does from Germany to China??? From Iceland to Bulgaria?
Andrew Krieg 5-5379
Digest #8
Message 98 -
1993-04-29 at 17:33:59
Don Rosa asks:
>> My question: how many people are on this network? These digests are
>> not short, but they seem to be the work of the same few people
>> each time.
There are a lot more readers than those who post regularly (generally we're
called lurkers). I appreciate that we do have those who keep the information
flow going. I would like to contribute more, but between work and graduate
school, I have little time to do so.
I would like to add that I'm especially glad to see you've joined the mailing
list. I've been a big fan ever since "The Son of the Sun" was first printed
by Gladstone. Since that time, I have collected every U.S. (as in United
States, not good ol' Unca $crooge) piece of Disney work you've done. I regret
that I probably will be missing a few of your upcoming covers though. I
just can't justify paying $1.50+ for some of the new Gladstone books which
are *already* reprinting Barks stories they reprinted before Disney took
over. Also, since they are reprinting all the WDC&S tales in the graphic
albums anyway, I see no reason to purchase them in comic book format a few
months before the albums come out. But I digress.....
I have recently been trying to track down your non-Disney work. I was able
to find "Don Rosas Comics and Stories" 1 & 2 fairly easy. Finding the
collected works of Captain Kentucky has not been so easy. I even called
used book stores and comic stores in the Louisville area (I live in
Wisconsin) to locate some of these books (and it worked)! My DRC&S #2 (or
is it #1), which I got from a Lousiville store is even autographed by you!
At least that's what the clerk claimed. Do you recall signing any of these
(mine is signed right in the center of the circle on the cover)? Do you
have any insight into locating copies of the Captain Kentucky books? I have
tried Kentucky book stores, as well as the newspaper that used to print the
strip and sold the reprint volumes, but no luck. I only have the first
book. Weren't there 3 altogether?
Enough for now.
Andy Krieg
krieg at ct.med.ge.com
>> My question: how many people are on this network? These digests are
>> not short, but they seem to be the work of the same few people
>> each time.
There are a lot more readers than those who post regularly (generally we're
called lurkers). I appreciate that we do have those who keep the information
flow going. I would like to contribute more, but between work and graduate
school, I have little time to do so.
I would like to add that I'm especially glad to see you've joined the mailing
list. I've been a big fan ever since "The Son of the Sun" was first printed
by Gladstone. Since that time, I have collected every U.S. (as in United
States, not good ol' Unca $crooge) piece of Disney work you've done. I regret
that I probably will be missing a few of your upcoming covers though. I
just can't justify paying $1.50+ for some of the new Gladstone books which
are *already* reprinting Barks stories they reprinted before Disney took
over. Also, since they are reprinting all the WDC&S tales in the graphic
albums anyway, I see no reason to purchase them in comic book format a few
months before the albums come out. But I digress.....
I have recently been trying to track down your non-Disney work. I was able
to find "Don Rosas Comics and Stories" 1 & 2 fairly easy. Finding the
collected works of Captain Kentucky has not been so easy. I even called
used book stores and comic stores in the Louisville area (I live in
Wisconsin) to locate some of these books (and it worked)! My DRC&S #2 (or
is it #1), which I got from a Lousiville store is even autographed by you!
At least that's what the clerk claimed. Do you recall signing any of these
(mine is signed right in the center of the circle on the cover)? Do you
have any insight into locating copies of the Captain Kentucky books? I have
tried Kentucky book stores, as well as the newspaper that used to print the
strip and sold the reprint volumes, but no luck. I only have the first
book. Weren't there 3 altogether?
Enough for now.
Andy Krieg
krieg at ct.med.ge.com
Fredrik Ekman
Rosa's stories
Message 99 -
1993-04-29 at 20:08:02
Don Rosa wrote:
> And Fredrik Ekman says that he likes my non-sequel stories best? This
>is not uncommon amoung Europeans to some extent... and I can see a reasoning
>behind it; the classic stories are better left alone than tampered with. But
>I thought two of my very best stories were "Return to Plain Awful" and
>"...to Xanadu". What was wrong with those sequels? I was mighty proud of
>those.
Well, that's not quite what I said. I merely stated the first examples that
came to my mind. The "... Xanadu" story is actually the story that made me
"discover" you. I had seen your art before, but without being overly
impressed. However, the moment I started reading it, and only a short time
after reading Barks' original for the first time (one of his best, if you
ask me), I realized that this was a true masterpiece. I still hold it as one
of your absolutely best stories. I've often wondered why it is that I like
"... Xanadu" so much when I'm not overly fond (relatively speaking) of
"... Plain Awful" but I have so far come to no satisfactory answer. I guess
I'll just have to sit down and compare the comics panel by panel (a kind of
comic reading I don't like very much) and see if I can find anything to
suggest why it is so.
/Fredrik Ekman
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| "By definition, one can only | Steve Gerber, |
| go so far in a world between." | Howard the Duck |
| | |
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> And Fredrik Ekman says that he likes my non-sequel stories best? This
>is not uncommon amoung Europeans to some extent... and I can see a reasoning
>behind it; the classic stories are better left alone than tampered with. But
>I thought two of my very best stories were "Return to Plain Awful" and
>"...to Xanadu". What was wrong with those sequels? I was mighty proud of
>those.
Well, that's not quite what I said. I merely stated the first examples that
came to my mind. The "... Xanadu" story is actually the story that made me
"discover" you. I had seen your art before, but without being overly
impressed. However, the moment I started reading it, and only a short time
after reading Barks' original for the first time (one of his best, if you
ask me), I realized that this was a true masterpiece. I still hold it as one
of your absolutely best stories. I've often wondered why it is that I like
"... Xanadu" so much when I'm not overly fond (relatively speaking) of
"... Plain Awful" but I have so far come to no satisfactory answer. I guess
I'll just have to sit down and compare the comics panel by panel (a kind of
comic reading I don't like very much) and see if I can find anything to
suggest why it is so.
/Fredrik Ekman
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| | |
| "By definition, one can only | Steve Gerber, |
| go so far in a world between." | Howard the Duck |
| | |
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Harry Fluks
Dutch Rosa issues
Message 100 -
1993-04-29 at 20:17:04
Don Rosa wrote:
> HARRY FLUKS: I keep forgetting -- do you have access to the Dutch
> comics??? I would DEARLY love to get copies of the issues reprinting
> my stories. I don't get a red cent in royalties off those multi-millions in
> world sales, but I try to at least get copies of the issues!
I would be happy to send you these! I can buy the most recent issues in any
newspaper store. It would be a bit more difficult to get _old_ issues, but
I think the editor can deliver most of them, if I ask them...
I'll need two things from you:
- your physical address
- a list of issues you want (or don't you have any Dutch Rosa work?)
Have you looked at "your" comic story list as we produced it, available by
ftp? (If not, maybe Per can mail a copy with the next Digest?)
There were some questions in it you might be able to answer.
--Harry.
Harry Fluks ()_() Dutch Disney comics freak
PTT Research, Leidschendam (NL) (_) H.W.Fluks at research.ptt.nl
"Yeah... I've _heard_ of coral barques!"
> HARRY FLUKS: I keep forgetting -- do you have access to the Dutch
> comics??? I would DEARLY love to get copies of the issues reprinting
> my stories. I don't get a red cent in royalties off those multi-millions in
> world sales, but I try to at least get copies of the issues!
I would be happy to send you these! I can buy the most recent issues in any
newspaper store. It would be a bit more difficult to get _old_ issues, but
I think the editor can deliver most of them, if I ask them...
I'll need two things from you:
- your physical address
- a list of issues you want (or don't you have any Dutch Rosa work?)
Have you looked at "your" comic story list as we produced it, available by
ftp? (If not, maybe Per can mail a copy with the next Digest?)
There were some questions in it you might be able to answer.
--Harry.
Harry Fluks ()_() Dutch Disney comics freak
PTT Research, Leidschendam (NL) (_) H.W.Fluks at research.ptt.nl
"Yeah... I've _heard_ of coral barques!"
Harry Fluks
Reply to Andy (digest #8)
Message 101 -
1993-04-29 at 20:33:10
Andy Krieg wrote (in reply to Don Rosa):
> There are a lot more readers than those who post regularly (generally we're
> called lurkers). I appreciate that we do have those who keep the information
> flow going.
Thank you.. I consider myself a 'regular' poster and it's nice to know
whether the postings are appreciated (though some of my postings may be
useless trash...).
As for the number of members: weren't we 50, Per?
> I regret that I probably will be missing a few of your [Rosa's] upcoming
> covers though. I
> just can't justify paying $1.50+ for some of the new Gladstone books which
> are *already* reprinting Barks stories they reprinted before Disney took
> over. Also, since they are reprinting all the WDC&S tales in the graphic
> albums anyway, I see no reason to purchase them in comic book format a few
> months before the albums come out. But I digress.....
Do what I did: I bought the last Disney issue of 'DD Adventures'. It contained
a nice Van Horn story, a 10-page Barks *and* an advertisement of Gladstone
showing all 6 covers of their first issues. 3 of them are by Rosa.
The size of these covers is almost 1/4 page, which already shows a lot of
details.
Next month I have to decide whether to buy Gladstone's comics *just* for
a bigger copy of the (excellent) Rosa covers, or just stick with the
smaller copies of them...
> Enough for now.
Right. 8-)
--Harry.
Harry Fluks ()_() Dutch Disney comics freak
PTT Research, Leidschendam (NL) (_) H.W.Fluks at research.ptt.nl
"Yeah... I've _heard_ of coral barques!"
> There are a lot more readers than those who post regularly (generally we're
> called lurkers). I appreciate that we do have those who keep the information
> flow going.
Thank you.. I consider myself a 'regular' poster and it's nice to know
whether the postings are appreciated (though some of my postings may be
useless trash...).
As for the number of members: weren't we 50, Per?
> I regret that I probably will be missing a few of your [Rosa's] upcoming
> covers though. I
> just can't justify paying $1.50+ for some of the new Gladstone books which
> are *already* reprinting Barks stories they reprinted before Disney took
> over. Also, since they are reprinting all the WDC&S tales in the graphic
> albums anyway, I see no reason to purchase them in comic book format a few
> months before the albums come out. But I digress.....
Do what I did: I bought the last Disney issue of 'DD Adventures'. It contained
a nice Van Horn story, a 10-page Barks *and* an advertisement of Gladstone
showing all 6 covers of their first issues. 3 of them are by Rosa.
The size of these covers is almost 1/4 page, which already shows a lot of
details.
Next month I have to decide whether to buy Gladstone's comics *just* for
a bigger copy of the (excellent) Rosa covers, or just stick with the
smaller copies of them...
> Enough for now.
Right. 8-)
--Harry.
Harry Fluks ()_() Dutch Disney comics freak
PTT Research, Leidschendam (NL) (_) H.W.Fluks at research.ptt.nl
"Yeah... I've _heard_ of coral barques!"
Per Starback
Mickey Mouse (and location of Duckburg!)
Message 102 -
1993-04-29 at 21:41:01
Fredrik:
> Another very good MM story was actually written by Carl Barks. The
> English title of this story should be something like "MM and the red
> hat". Does anyone know any background facts about this story? Why,
> for example, did CB do a MM? And why once and never more?
The title is "Mickey Mouse and The Riddle of the Red Hat". Barks has
written: "About how I happened to do the Mickey and Porky series in
1944 and '45---I was _asked_ to do so by the office. I wouldn't have
ventured into those characters' field by choice."
A few years later Bill Wright got to be the regular guy for doing
Mickey Mouse Oneshots, so then the need didn't arose anymore I guess.
As for why Donald is a better character than Mickey (not only because
Barks did the Duck) I just read The Barks Collector Annual #1 from
1983 which I got the other day, and there's an article "Donald Duck =
Artist's Dreamfigure?" by Volker Reiche where he points of how rigid
Mickey is: "invariable ears; (Can wear a hat only with distorted
drawing); no hair to stand on end; small, expressionless eyes;
unmovable nose ..." whereas *every* line is variable when drawing
Donald: "variable eyebrows; expressive variable eyes; beak:
super-nose-mouth-chin combination (1000 variation possibilities from
accordion pleated to out-stretched in form of a flute!) ..."
BTW: in that same TBC Annual is also excerpts from an interview with
Barks by Klaus Strzyz (originally published in Der Hamburger Donaldist
#14), from which the following about the location of Duckburg may be
of interest as it has been discussed here.
Barks: "I always based its location on Burbank, Calif., the site of
the Disney studio, but its climate and varying geography often
made such a location impossible. When the story was about
snow and ice, the assumption would have to be that Duckburg
was far north of Burbank. No one should attach much
importance to the technical location of Duckburg. Please
treat it as a city of fantasy which moved around to wherever
it fitted best into the elements of the particular story that
was being told. Most of my stories, however, could have
happened in the climate and geography of Burbank. That city
is near the ocean and the desert and a range of fairly high
mountains."
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at student.docs.uu.se
"What is Mickey Mouse's social security number?"
> Another very good MM story was actually written by Carl Barks. The
> English title of this story should be something like "MM and the red
> hat". Does anyone know any background facts about this story? Why,
> for example, did CB do a MM? And why once and never more?
The title is "Mickey Mouse and The Riddle of the Red Hat". Barks has
written: "About how I happened to do the Mickey and Porky series in
1944 and '45---I was _asked_ to do so by the office. I wouldn't have
ventured into those characters' field by choice."
A few years later Bill Wright got to be the regular guy for doing
Mickey Mouse Oneshots, so then the need didn't arose anymore I guess.
As for why Donald is a better character than Mickey (not only because
Barks did the Duck) I just read The Barks Collector Annual #1 from
1983 which I got the other day, and there's an article "Donald Duck =
Artist's Dreamfigure?" by Volker Reiche where he points of how rigid
Mickey is: "invariable ears; (Can wear a hat only with distorted
drawing); no hair to stand on end; small, expressionless eyes;
unmovable nose ..." whereas *every* line is variable when drawing
Donald: "variable eyebrows; expressive variable eyes; beak:
super-nose-mouth-chin combination (1000 variation possibilities from
accordion pleated to out-stretched in form of a flute!) ..."
BTW: in that same TBC Annual is also excerpts from an interview with
Barks by Klaus Strzyz (originally published in Der Hamburger Donaldist
#14), from which the following about the location of Duckburg may be
of interest as it has been discussed here.
Barks: "I always based its location on Burbank, Calif., the site of
the Disney studio, but its climate and varying geography often
made such a location impossible. When the story was about
snow and ice, the assumption would have to be that Duckburg
was far north of Burbank. No one should attach much
importance to the technical location of Duckburg. Please
treat it as a city of fantasy which moved around to wherever
it fitted best into the elements of the particular story that
was being told. Most of my stories, however, could have
happened in the climate and geography of Burbank. That city
is near the ocean and the desert and a range of fairly high
mountains."
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at student.docs.uu.se
"What is Mickey Mouse's social security number?"
Per Starback
This and that
Message 103 -
1993-04-29 at 22:43:50
Other mailing lists
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
James:
> Would some please post the address of the Ranger List (i.e. Disney TV
> List).
Mail ranger-list-request at taronga.com to get in touch with the
administrator (Stephanie da Silva).
Don:
> What was this comment from someone (Gil?) about a mention in
> something called COMICS LIST WEEKLY. What is that? And what did it
> say? Was that one snippet the whole bit? They don't spend much time
> talking about Disney comics in America, lest they be regarded as
> halfwits by all the quarter-wits who are doing the comic buying in
> this country.
That's a moderated mailing list about comics in general where you were
mentioned some time ago. Gilbert asked about your Egmont stories
there, and both I and James Williams responded to that. In my reply I
mentioned disney-comics which led to Gilbert and James joining it (and
you too indirectly, as it was James who knew that you were on the
net). I haven't seen anything else about Disney comics there though.
Don Rosa (from and about)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Don Rosa:
> but I don't know of any important examples of that [cut pages] outside
> of the 5 pages from "Back to the Klondike"... but those HAVE been
> printed now -- and will soon be printed even in all the Egmont
> countries, thanks to Byron Erickson and me (those pages were never the
> property of Disney -- they were in the hands of fans... so they were
> unavailable and unknown to Disney or any licensee.
Hmm, I *think* some of the missing pages have been printed in Finland,
but I'm not sure. There seems to have been fans among the editors of
Aku Ankka in Finland.
> As for whether Jake McDuck was alive at the time of "Christmas for
> Shacktown"... no. $crooge knew that, that's why he saw right through
> Donald's disguise and gave him the bum's rush. That's my story and I'm
> stickin' to it.
Yeah, that seems to be the best solution.
Gilbert:
> Will this [Life of Scrooge] ever be available in the U.S.? If not
> would any of you over-seas collectors be interested in trading this
> book (or any other stories we Yanks may not have) [ ... ]
I think you can be pretty sure that Gladstone will print all of Rosa's
Egmont stories. He's good and, perhaps more to the point, a
fan-favourite (not totally unrelated! :-)
But if your or anyone else really has to own comic books in Swedish
with Rosa's stories please mail me about it and I'll see if I can find
any.
How many are we?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Don:
> My question: how many people are on this network? These digests are
> not short, but they seem to be the work of the same few people
> each time.
They sure are, welcome among the same few people! :-)
Well, actually some of the lurkers do say something once in a while
(hi, Andy! :-)
Harry> As for the number of members: weren't we 50, Per?
The current number is 49. It seems like old members unsubscribe
almost at the same frequency as new members join now, so it grows very
slowly, if at grows at all.
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at student.docs.uu.se
"Ta ta, boys! I'll see you in the funny papers!"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
James:
> Would some please post the address of the Ranger List (i.e. Disney TV
> List).
Mail ranger-list-request at taronga.com to get in touch with the
administrator (Stephanie da Silva).
Don:
> What was this comment from someone (Gil?) about a mention in
> something called COMICS LIST WEEKLY. What is that? And what did it
> say? Was that one snippet the whole bit? They don't spend much time
> talking about Disney comics in America, lest they be regarded as
> halfwits by all the quarter-wits who are doing the comic buying in
> this country.
That's a moderated mailing list about comics in general where you were
mentioned some time ago. Gilbert asked about your Egmont stories
there, and both I and James Williams responded to that. In my reply I
mentioned disney-comics which led to Gilbert and James joining it (and
you too indirectly, as it was James who knew that you were on the
net). I haven't seen anything else about Disney comics there though.
Don Rosa (from and about)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Don Rosa:
> but I don't know of any important examples of that [cut pages] outside
> of the 5 pages from "Back to the Klondike"... but those HAVE been
> printed now -- and will soon be printed even in all the Egmont
> countries, thanks to Byron Erickson and me (those pages were never the
> property of Disney -- they were in the hands of fans... so they were
> unavailable and unknown to Disney or any licensee.
Hmm, I *think* some of the missing pages have been printed in Finland,
but I'm not sure. There seems to have been fans among the editors of
Aku Ankka in Finland.
> As for whether Jake McDuck was alive at the time of "Christmas for
> Shacktown"... no. $crooge knew that, that's why he saw right through
> Donald's disguise and gave him the bum's rush. That's my story and I'm
> stickin' to it.
Yeah, that seems to be the best solution.
Gilbert:
> Will this [Life of Scrooge] ever be available in the U.S.? If not
> would any of you over-seas collectors be interested in trading this
> book (or any other stories we Yanks may not have) [ ... ]
I think you can be pretty sure that Gladstone will print all of Rosa's
Egmont stories. He's good and, perhaps more to the point, a
fan-favourite (not totally unrelated! :-)
But if your or anyone else really has to own comic books in Swedish
with Rosa's stories please mail me about it and I'll see if I can find
any.
How many are we?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Don:
> My question: how many people are on this network? These digests are
> not short, but they seem to be the work of the same few people
> each time.
They sure are, welcome among the same few people! :-)
Well, actually some of the lurkers do say something once in a while
(hi, Andy! :-)
Harry> As for the number of members: weren't we 50, Per?
The current number is 49. It seems like old members unsubscribe
almost at the same frequency as new members join now, so it grows very
slowly, if at grows at all.
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at student.docs.uu.se
"Ta ta, boys! I'll see you in the funny papers!"