Mikko:
> The new Barks-Van Horn story will be published in Finland in Aku Ankka
> 1/95 because that's also our #2000. It's 24-page long, but I forgot
> to ask if he also did layouts for it...
Barks' pencil layout for the first half page was published in the Dutch
fanzine 'Stripschrift'. I guess that indicates that Barks did the script
the way he did scripts 20 years ago: deliver (quite detailed) pencil
pages for the story.
> - 8-page Barks from 1959 coded 'OS 1025' (?!)
Yep, that's "OS 1025". OS = One Shot, an alternative name for the Four
Color Comics series. This particular issue was titled "Vacation in Disneyland".
> - 5-page 'H 91140' Good dutch story about luck.
...art by Mau Heymans.
> I also have a question about U$ #287. When and where is the second story
> published first? Did Jippes fix some 'destroyed' Barks story or is the
> script and layouts originally made for dutch publisher?
Barks wrote quite a few Junior Woodchuck stories in the early 70s (after he
retired). His scripts are in the same form the Trojan story is: pencilled
pages. Other artists (Kay Wright and Tony Strobl) inked the stories. They
were published in the comic series "HDL Junior Woodchucks". Some of these
stories were reprinted by Gladstone in the Digests. Most of the original
Barks pencil layouts were published in the Carl Barks Library.
The Dutch editor, who wants to reprint ALL Barks material available, did not
like the art of Wright and Strobl. So they asked Daan Jippes to re-ink the
stories. The one in US #287 is the first one (H 9201), published first in
Dutch DD Weekly 1-1992. Original script was for HDL Junior Woodchucks #14.
Up to now Jippes re-drew 5 or 6 of the 24 stories. More information can be
found in the ftp file /pub/comics/disney/dutch/barks-index on
ftp.lysator.liu.se.
(I think Gladstone should have put some explanation in the comic...)
--Harry.
Harry PTT Research ()_() Dutch Disney comics freak
Fluks Leidschendam (_) H.W.Fluks at research.ptt.nl
"Yeah... I've _heard_ of coral barques!"
Author
Topic: 199406
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Harry Fluks
Barks' "script-only" stories
Message 61 -
1994-06-16 at 12:25:00
Gilbert Roser
Mathmagicland censored?
Message 62 -
1994-06-16 at 14:18:54
Hello!
In DDA 26 on page 20 panel 2 of "Donald in Mathmagicland" Donald
gets wild about an Icecream Soda. I think that this panel was
redrawn because I have an copy of this story where he gets wild
about a Miss and the shadow below the Soda is to small for the
Soda and fits perfectly with the Miss. Am I right?
I can't understand that they are censoring such things because
IMHO it wasn't harming anything.
----------------------------------------------------
Gilbert Roser A Disney Maniac
TUBerlin
Germany
efferd at cs.tu-berlin.de
----------------------------------------------------
In DDA 26 on page 20 panel 2 of "Donald in Mathmagicland" Donald
gets wild about an Icecream Soda. I think that this panel was
redrawn because I have an copy of this story where he gets wild
about a Miss and the shadow below the Soda is to small for the
Soda and fits perfectly with the Miss. Am I right?
I can't understand that they are censoring such things because
IMHO it wasn't harming anything.
----------------------------------------------------
Gilbert Roser A Disney Maniac
TUBerlin
Germany
efferd at cs.tu-berlin.de
----------------------------------------------------
Mattias Hallin
RE Digest #357
Message 63 -
1994-06-16 at 16:38:07
HELLO, EV'RBODY!
Ole Reichstein mentioned his visit to Copenhagen last week-end;
I too was there, together with some 12 or 15 other NAFS(k) members, to see the
oilpaintings, the exhibition at the Kulorte "dash-that-o" Bibliotek and -- I
guess of course -- the Duck Man hisself, all of which we brought off.
I'm afraid, Ole, that I cannot agree with your wholehearted and enthusiastic
recommendation of the oils exhibit: I used to think from what I had seen in
printed reproductions that maybe Barks isn't exactly Rembrandt, but at least
fairly OK as an oilpainter, so I was SORELY disappointed in seeing the real
McCoy. IMHO, and without mincing the words, Carl Barks the oilpainter STINKS!!!
(sacrilege! stone him! stone him!)
Not only are these paintings prime examples of muddled compositions and VERY
bad technique, but worst of all: the man has no knowledge whatever of how to
create volume through light and colour, which is what figurative oilpainting is
really all about. If one actually tries to "read" what is painted on those
canvases, the result is pitiable, with distorted bodies, absurd angles and
bizarre light. I haven't really reacted to this before, since I've only ever
seen promotional material with small not-too-well-printed reproductions, but in
the flesh -- oh, brother!
Well, then we saw the exhibition-to-be at the Kulorte Bibliotek (which is
actually, correct-me-if-I'm-wrong, a Public Lending Library for COMICS!!!) --
they were then still hanging it -- including at least parts of Horsing Around
With History, which at a glance seems to be OK (there is a semi-qoute there
that you'll just LOVE, David!). The art is entirely van Horn (no underlying
Barksian sketches that I could percieve), and good at that, though I didn't
really get enough grip of the story (I only saw a few odd halfpages) to have an
opinion on that... Probably worth waiting for, though!
Oh, and at Tivoli (a large amusement park in downtown Copenhagen, for those who
don't know) I saw, but didn't meet, Carl Barks; and then met briefly with
Vicar, Tello, Rota and Byron Erickson, who all seemed to be nice guys. Byron
was BTW real happy when NAFS(k) member Joakim Gunnarsson lavished praise on the
new-improved-back-to-Gottfredson Mickey. Oh, and yeah: the same Joakim
Gunnarsson was the real lucky one, next day! Barks officially opened the
exhibition at the Kulorte Bibliotek (which is on very cramped premises), so
everyone present (I for one wasn't there) crowded into the room where he was,
while in the next room sat Tello, Vicar and Rota all by theirselves; so Joakim
decided to talk to them instead, only when Barks was going to leave, he was
first shuttled into that second room without any entourage -- so Joakim
suddenly found himself alone with four live duck men, including Carl Barks...!
Lucky, lucky, lucky!
All my best
Mattias
!==============================================================================!
!* Mattias Hallin ** <Mattias.Hallin at Jurenh.lu.se> ** Phone: +46 46-14 84 43 **!
!* Trollebergsvagen 24 B ***** Work: Lund University, Box 117, S-221 00 Lund **!
!* S-222 29 Lund, SWEDEN **************************** Phone: +46 46-10 71 37 **!
!==============================================================================!
!*************** "Don't let the coyoteeeees howl over my grave!" **************!
!==============================================================================!
Ole Reichstein mentioned his visit to Copenhagen last week-end;
I too was there, together with some 12 or 15 other NAFS(k) members, to see the
oilpaintings, the exhibition at the Kulorte "dash-that-o" Bibliotek and -- I
guess of course -- the Duck Man hisself, all of which we brought off.
I'm afraid, Ole, that I cannot agree with your wholehearted and enthusiastic
recommendation of the oils exhibit: I used to think from what I had seen in
printed reproductions that maybe Barks isn't exactly Rembrandt, but at least
fairly OK as an oilpainter, so I was SORELY disappointed in seeing the real
McCoy. IMHO, and without mincing the words, Carl Barks the oilpainter STINKS!!!
(sacrilege! stone him! stone him!)
Not only are these paintings prime examples of muddled compositions and VERY
bad technique, but worst of all: the man has no knowledge whatever of how to
create volume through light and colour, which is what figurative oilpainting is
really all about. If one actually tries to "read" what is painted on those
canvases, the result is pitiable, with distorted bodies, absurd angles and
bizarre light. I haven't really reacted to this before, since I've only ever
seen promotional material with small not-too-well-printed reproductions, but in
the flesh -- oh, brother!
Well, then we saw the exhibition-to-be at the Kulorte Bibliotek (which is
actually, correct-me-if-I'm-wrong, a Public Lending Library for COMICS!!!) --
they were then still hanging it -- including at least parts of Horsing Around
With History, which at a glance seems to be OK (there is a semi-qoute there
that you'll just LOVE, David!). The art is entirely van Horn (no underlying
Barksian sketches that I could percieve), and good at that, though I didn't
really get enough grip of the story (I only saw a few odd halfpages) to have an
opinion on that... Probably worth waiting for, though!
Oh, and at Tivoli (a large amusement park in downtown Copenhagen, for those who
don't know) I saw, but didn't meet, Carl Barks; and then met briefly with
Vicar, Tello, Rota and Byron Erickson, who all seemed to be nice guys. Byron
was BTW real happy when NAFS(k) member Joakim Gunnarsson lavished praise on the
new-improved-back-to-Gottfredson Mickey. Oh, and yeah: the same Joakim
Gunnarsson was the real lucky one, next day! Barks officially opened the
exhibition at the Kulorte Bibliotek (which is on very cramped premises), so
everyone present (I for one wasn't there) crowded into the room where he was,
while in the next room sat Tello, Vicar and Rota all by theirselves; so Joakim
decided to talk to them instead, only when Barks was going to leave, he was
first shuttled into that second room without any entourage -- so Joakim
suddenly found himself alone with four live duck men, including Carl Barks...!
Lucky, lucky, lucky!
All my best
Mattias
!==============================================================================!
!* Mattias Hallin ** <Mattias.Hallin at Jurenh.lu.se> ** Phone: +46 46-14 84 43 **!
!* Trollebergsvagen 24 B ***** Work: Lund University, Box 117, S-221 00 Lund **!
!* S-222 29 Lund, SWEDEN **************************** Phone: +46 46-10 71 37 **!
!==============================================================================!
!*************** "Don't let the coyoteeeees howl over my grave!" **************!
!==============================================================================!
The Tao Of Elmo
Some Ducks for sale or rent
Message 64 -
1994-06-17 at 06:57:03
I've got a couple of duplicates of recent Gladstone issues I'd like to
get rid. $1 plus postage is what I'm asking, which is not inconsiderable
compared to cover price, but maybe someone had trouble finding them:
Uncle Scrooge #287: Life and Times of U$ part three
Donald Duck Adventures #27: Mystery of Widow's Gap (AR 200) by Fernandez
and Block
E-mail if you're interested. Apologies to anyone annoyed by for-sale posts.
greg
--
"And I can't *say* baklava or tarasamalata or any of those things."
--Delirium
elmo (morrow at physics.rice.edu,morrow at fnal.fnal.gov)
get rid. $1 plus postage is what I'm asking, which is not inconsiderable
compared to cover price, but maybe someone had trouble finding them:
Uncle Scrooge #287: Life and Times of U$ part three
Donald Duck Adventures #27: Mystery of Widow's Gap (AR 200) by Fernandez
and Block
E-mail if you're interested. Apologies to anyone annoyed by for-sale posts.
greg
--
"And I can't *say* baklava or tarasamalata or any of those things."
--Delirium
elmo (morrow at physics.rice.edu,morrow at fnal.fnal.gov)
Mark Mayerson
Jack Hannah Obituary
Message 65 -
1994-06-17 at 20:38:13
I found this on rec.arts.disney.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Quoting from the Associated Press:
BURBANK, Calif. (AP) -- Jack Hannah, animator, storyteller and
director of more than 100 Donald Duck cartoons, died of cancer
last Saturday. He was 81.
Joining the Disney animation staff in 1933, Hannah directed 65
shorts, eight of which were nominated for Academy Awards. He
also directed 14, hourlong TV shows including skits with Walt
Disney talking to Donald Duck at his desk.
His first animation credit was for a scene in "Gulliver
Mickey." Hannah also was key animator on the Academy Award-
winning short, "The Old Mill."
After retiring from Disney, 26 years later, Hannah worked in
the 1960s on stories for live-action films and with Walter
Lantz, directing several Woody Woodpecker cartoons.
Hannah developed the School of Character Animation at the
California Institute of the Arts, founded by Disney. He was
on the CalArts staff for eight years.
Hannah was also a landscape oil painting artist.
___________________________________________________________________
Mark Mayerson Side Effects Software Inc.,
Internet: mayerson at sidefx.com Toronto, Ontario, Canada
(416) 366-4607
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Quoting from the Associated Press:
BURBANK, Calif. (AP) -- Jack Hannah, animator, storyteller and
director of more than 100 Donald Duck cartoons, died of cancer
last Saturday. He was 81.
Joining the Disney animation staff in 1933, Hannah directed 65
shorts, eight of which were nominated for Academy Awards. He
also directed 14, hourlong TV shows including skits with Walt
Disney talking to Donald Duck at his desk.
His first animation credit was for a scene in "Gulliver
Mickey." Hannah also was key animator on the Academy Award-
winning short, "The Old Mill."
After retiring from Disney, 26 years later, Hannah worked in
the 1960s on stories for live-action films and with Walter
Lantz, directing several Woody Woodpecker cartoons.
Hannah developed the School of Character Animation at the
California Institute of the Arts, founded by Disney. He was
on the CalArts staff for eight years.
Hannah was also a landscape oil painting artist.
___________________________________________________________________
Mark Mayerson Side Effects Software Inc.,
Internet: mayerson at sidefx.com Toronto, Ontario, Canada
(416) 366-4607
Lasse Reichstein Nielsen
From RoC
Message 66 -
1994-06-18 at 16:59:56
FANTASK
=======
Fredrik:
> I would like to recommend anyone who lives in or near Copenhagen to
>[...] get a copy of their latest free product catalogue (Fantask Avis
>No. 10). It contains a twelve-page Carl Barks special with several
>interesting articles and a rather difficult Barks quiz.
Here are the questions for that one:
1. Which story did Barks do in the depressive period, following his
second divorce?
2. What is the name of the story, where we meet Uncle Scrooge for the
first time?
3. Name at least three of Barks' occupations before he became a comic
creator.
4. What number is on Donald's license plate?
5. Name five occupations, that Barks gave Donald.
6. Which story was the first published in Danish?
7. What was the name of the town Omelet, before it was renamed?
8. Which pages were removed from the reprint of "A Christmas for Shacktown"?
9. What's the name of the lawyer in "The Golden Helmet"?
10. What is Donald getting intereseted in, in the end of "The Golden
Helmet"?
11. What was the coloring error in #9/1954?
12. In what story does "the greeneyed monster of jealousy" appear?
13. In the story of the mini racers Donald is called in to replace a driver.
What calamity hit the regular driver?
14. In the story where Donald is a beekeeper he visits Daisy. What
perfume does he use?
15. Uncle Scrooge owns all kinds of factories. Which does he not own?
16. Where do the richest men in the world meet?
17. What's the name of the sodapop drinking camel?
18. What movie do the nephews want to see in the Platism story?
19. A guy named Joe from Singapore is a parrot. What does it call Daisy?
20. How many pages did Barks draw during his carreer? 3,000? 6,000? 9,000?
21. Name at least four characters, that Barks invented.
22. How much was Barks paid for a comic book page on his highest salary?
25.50$? 35.50$? 45.50$? And how much for his latest oil?
100,000$? 200,000$? 300,000$?
23. Who translated most of Barks' stories to Danish?
You can enter the contest until August 10.th -94 and win a Barks book.
Answers are acceptable in both Danish and English.
>As an afterthought, the catalogue is probably available for free from
>them within Denmark (and possibly the rest of Scandinavia) by writing
>to them.
Anybody can get a free Fantask newspaper, published about 4-6 times a
year by: Fantask
Skt.Pedersstraede 18
DK-1453 Copenhagen K
Denmark
>(How many Danish members do we have, by the way? I hope I'm not
>writing this for Ole all by himself.)
The other member I konw of, Jan Lund Thomsen, is too busy to read the
messages, and may even have been unsubscribed. He would however like to
download that lysator before it happens. Which I BTW couldn't remember
the other day when I joined my brother Lasse at the Aarhus University.
We even tried to call Per.
SOMETHING'S A MISS
================
Gilbert:
>Donald gets wild about [...] a Miss and the shadow below [...]
>fits perfectly with the Miss. Am I right?
To (mis:)quote Winnie the Pooh: "Them four-letter-words are awful
hard for a simple bear like me to understand."
COPENHGEN - DK
==============
Mattias:
>I'm afraid, Ole, that I cannot agree with your wholehearted and enthusiastic
>recommendation of the oils exhibit: I used to think from what I had seen in
>printed reproductions that maybe Barks isn't exactly Rembrandt, but at least
>fairly OK as an oilpainter, so I was SORELY disappointed in seeing the real
>McCoy. IMHO, and without mincing the words, Carl Barks the oilpainter STINKS!!!
>
>(sacrilege! stone him! stone him!)
What surprised me was how badly any publishings I'd ever seen managed
to capture the radiance, the luminance, of the originals. On a sunny day
they shine! How good is Barks' eye-sight BTW?
>Not only are these paintings prime examples of muddled compositions and VERY
>bad technique, but worst of all: the man has no knowledge whatever of how to
>create volume through light and colour, which is what figurative oilpainting is
>really all about. If one actually tries to "read" what is painted on those
>canvases, the result is pitiable, with distorted bodies, absurd angles and
>bizarre light. I haven't really reacted to this before, since I've only ever
>seen promotional material with small not-too-well-printed reproductions, but in
>the flesh -- oh, brother!
But the prindle of the sheer bulkness of amplitude, does present a stated
fin-de-siecle opaquity within the dissolutedness, you must admit.
>Well, then we saw the exhibition-to-be at the Kulorte Bibliotek (which is
>actually, correct-me-if-I'm-wrong, a Public Lending Library for COMICS!!!) --
No, you're absolutely right. But that Sunday wasn't a regular open day,
so I couldn't get a 'licence to lend'. And I missed it all by an hour.
>they were then still hanging it -- including at least parts of Horsing Around
>With History, which at a glance seems to be OK (there is a semi-qoute there
>that you'll just LOVE, David!). The art is entirely van Horn (no underlying
>Barksian sketches that I could percieve), and good at that, though I didn't
>really get enough grip of the story (I only saw a few odd halfpages) to have an
>opinion on that... Probably worth waiting for, though!
I also wish I had had the time to read it. Did you notice the letters from
famous Danes, like our once and future foreign minister, Mr.Uffe Elleman-
Jensen (who looks suspiciously close to the comedian on stage in Tivoli),
and Sussi Bech, artist on Nofret, with her re-draw of "Crown of the Mayas"
part 3, done at about age 7, when her copy had been lost.
Too bad the Darkest Africa frieze was the redrawn version, cheers for
Finnish Aku Ankku for not splitting it up, like the other countries, where
two panels are cut to make room for resumes.
>Oh, and at Tivoli (a large amusement park in downtown Copenhagen, for those who
>don't know) [...]
Tivoli is even more world-famous than the Little Mermaid in Stockholm!
Oh, woe the day when Sweden becomes a part of Denmark. Next thing you'll
want a goal-keeper from Uppsala on our national soccer team!
<oLe 'RoC' Reichstein Nielsen, c/o Lasse 'Spot' R.N. (lrn at daimi.aau.dk)>
=======
Fredrik:
> I would like to recommend anyone who lives in or near Copenhagen to
>[...] get a copy of their latest free product catalogue (Fantask Avis
>No. 10). It contains a twelve-page Carl Barks special with several
>interesting articles and a rather difficult Barks quiz.
Here are the questions for that one:
1. Which story did Barks do in the depressive period, following his
second divorce?
2. What is the name of the story, where we meet Uncle Scrooge for the
first time?
3. Name at least three of Barks' occupations before he became a comic
creator.
4. What number is on Donald's license plate?
5. Name five occupations, that Barks gave Donald.
6. Which story was the first published in Danish?
7. What was the name of the town Omelet, before it was renamed?
8. Which pages were removed from the reprint of "A Christmas for Shacktown"?
9. What's the name of the lawyer in "The Golden Helmet"?
10. What is Donald getting intereseted in, in the end of "The Golden
Helmet"?
11. What was the coloring error in #9/1954?
12. In what story does "the greeneyed monster of jealousy" appear?
13. In the story of the mini racers Donald is called in to replace a driver.
What calamity hit the regular driver?
14. In the story where Donald is a beekeeper he visits Daisy. What
perfume does he use?
15. Uncle Scrooge owns all kinds of factories. Which does he not own?
16. Where do the richest men in the world meet?
17. What's the name of the sodapop drinking camel?
18. What movie do the nephews want to see in the Platism story?
19. A guy named Joe from Singapore is a parrot. What does it call Daisy?
20. How many pages did Barks draw during his carreer? 3,000? 6,000? 9,000?
21. Name at least four characters, that Barks invented.
22. How much was Barks paid for a comic book page on his highest salary?
25.50$? 35.50$? 45.50$? And how much for his latest oil?
100,000$? 200,000$? 300,000$?
23. Who translated most of Barks' stories to Danish?
You can enter the contest until August 10.th -94 and win a Barks book.
Answers are acceptable in both Danish and English.
>As an afterthought, the catalogue is probably available for free from
>them within Denmark (and possibly the rest of Scandinavia) by writing
>to them.
Anybody can get a free Fantask newspaper, published about 4-6 times a
year by: Fantask
Skt.Pedersstraede 18
DK-1453 Copenhagen K
Denmark
>(How many Danish members do we have, by the way? I hope I'm not
>writing this for Ole all by himself.)
The other member I konw of, Jan Lund Thomsen, is too busy to read the
messages, and may even have been unsubscribed. He would however like to
download that lysator before it happens. Which I BTW couldn't remember
the other day when I joined my brother Lasse at the Aarhus University.
We even tried to call Per.
SOMETHING'S A MISS
================
Gilbert:
>Donald gets wild about [...] a Miss and the shadow below [...]
>fits perfectly with the Miss. Am I right?
To (mis:)quote Winnie the Pooh: "Them four-letter-words are awful
hard for a simple bear like me to understand."
COPENHGEN - DK
==============
Mattias:
>I'm afraid, Ole, that I cannot agree with your wholehearted and enthusiastic
>recommendation of the oils exhibit: I used to think from what I had seen in
>printed reproductions that maybe Barks isn't exactly Rembrandt, but at least
>fairly OK as an oilpainter, so I was SORELY disappointed in seeing the real
>McCoy. IMHO, and without mincing the words, Carl Barks the oilpainter STINKS!!!
>
>(sacrilege! stone him! stone him!)
What surprised me was how badly any publishings I'd ever seen managed
to capture the radiance, the luminance, of the originals. On a sunny day
they shine! How good is Barks' eye-sight BTW?
>Not only are these paintings prime examples of muddled compositions and VERY
>bad technique, but worst of all: the man has no knowledge whatever of how to
>create volume through light and colour, which is what figurative oilpainting is
>really all about. If one actually tries to "read" what is painted on those
>canvases, the result is pitiable, with distorted bodies, absurd angles and
>bizarre light. I haven't really reacted to this before, since I've only ever
>seen promotional material with small not-too-well-printed reproductions, but in
>the flesh -- oh, brother!
But the prindle of the sheer bulkness of amplitude, does present a stated
fin-de-siecle opaquity within the dissolutedness, you must admit.
>Well, then we saw the exhibition-to-be at the Kulorte Bibliotek (which is
>actually, correct-me-if-I'm-wrong, a Public Lending Library for COMICS!!!) --
No, you're absolutely right. But that Sunday wasn't a regular open day,
so I couldn't get a 'licence to lend'. And I missed it all by an hour.
>they were then still hanging it -- including at least parts of Horsing Around
>With History, which at a glance seems to be OK (there is a semi-qoute there
>that you'll just LOVE, David!). The art is entirely van Horn (no underlying
>Barksian sketches that I could percieve), and good at that, though I didn't
>really get enough grip of the story (I only saw a few odd halfpages) to have an
>opinion on that... Probably worth waiting for, though!
I also wish I had had the time to read it. Did you notice the letters from
famous Danes, like our once and future foreign minister, Mr.Uffe Elleman-
Jensen (who looks suspiciously close to the comedian on stage in Tivoli),
and Sussi Bech, artist on Nofret, with her re-draw of "Crown of the Mayas"
part 3, done at about age 7, when her copy had been lost.
Too bad the Darkest Africa frieze was the redrawn version, cheers for
Finnish Aku Ankku for not splitting it up, like the other countries, where
two panels are cut to make room for resumes.
>Oh, and at Tivoli (a large amusement park in downtown Copenhagen, for those who
>don't know) [...]
Tivoli is even more world-famous than the Little Mermaid in Stockholm!
Oh, woe the day when Sweden becomes a part of Denmark. Next thing you'll
want a goal-keeper from Uppsala on our national soccer team!
<oLe 'RoC' Reichstein Nielsen, c/o Lasse 'Spot' R.N. (lrn at daimi.aau.dk)>
The Tao Of Elmo
Jack Hannah dies
Message 67 -
1994-06-18 at 20:20:29
Ted Hering reported on rec.arts.animation that Associated Press
has reported the death of Disney animator Jack Hannah on June 11 from
cancer. Hannah's career at Disney studios spanned 26 years, beginning
in 1933, and included credits on over 100 Donald Duck cartoons and
an Academy Award-winning short, "The Old Mill".
Closer to home, Hannah contributed about half of "Donald Duck Find Pirate
Gold", Donald's first comic book adventure, also featuring the debut
of Carl Barks' comic work on the character that would bring him fame.
greg
--
"[Sandman Action Figures] would be a great way to get subversive material to
the mainstay of American youth...Almost as good as THE SIMPSONS."--Moriarty
elmo (morrow at physics.rice.edu,morrow at fnal.fnal.gov)
has reported the death of Disney animator Jack Hannah on June 11 from
cancer. Hannah's career at Disney studios spanned 26 years, beginning
in 1933, and included credits on over 100 Donald Duck cartoons and
an Academy Award-winning short, "The Old Mill".
Closer to home, Hannah contributed about half of "Donald Duck Find Pirate
Gold", Donald's first comic book adventure, also featuring the debut
of Carl Barks' comic work on the character that would bring him fame.
greg
--
"[Sandman Action Figures] would be a great way to get subversive material to
the mainstay of American youth...Almost as good as THE SIMPSONS."--Moriarty
elmo (morrow at physics.rice.edu,morrow at fnal.fnal.gov)
Knut Hunstad
Moby Duck
Message 68 -
1994-06-19 at 16:05:34
Hello!
I have a few questions about Moby Duck I hope someone out there can answer
(couldn't find them by ftp to ftp.lysator.lie.se, if it's there could
someone please tell me where?):
1. Who invented him and when?
2. When was the last story with him made?
3. Is he related to any of the other Ducks?
Thanks for any answers/hints!
Knut Hunstad
khun at veg.sintef.no
I have a few questions about Moby Duck I hope someone out there can answer
(couldn't find them by ftp to ftp.lysator.lie.se, if it's there could
someone please tell me where?):
1. Who invented him and when?
2. When was the last story with him made?
3. Is he related to any of the other Ducks?
Thanks for any answers/hints!
Knut Hunstad
khun at veg.sintef.no
Gilbert Roser
Corrections to last msg
Message 69 -
1994-06-20 at 12:25:25
Hello!
I apologize for my very bad English!
In the last message I wrote I asked about "Donald in Mathmagicland".
The "Miss" that I mentioned was meant to be a Beauty-Queen.
Gladstone has printed an Icecream Soda instead of the Beauty-Queen
like it was printed in a copy I've gotten.
Am I wright that this panel was redrawn for Gladstone or another
publishing? The shadow beneath the Soda hints it.
-Gilbert
I apologize for my very bad English!
In the last message I wrote I asked about "Donald in Mathmagicland".
The "Miss" that I mentioned was meant to be a Beauty-Queen.
Gladstone has printed an Icecream Soda instead of the Beauty-Queen
like it was printed in a copy I've gotten.
Am I wright that this panel was redrawn for Gladstone or another
publishing? The shadow beneath the Soda hints it.
-Gilbert
Per Starback
Barks's tour -- Sweden
Message 70 -
1994-06-20 at 16:24:08
Well, I was there and thought I should report something from the
meeting yesterday when Barks met Swedish fans, but I don't have that
much to say. Before Barks arrived Olof Siverbo and Magnus Knutsson
delivered talks on Carl Barks, and recent slides from Barks's visit in
Copenhagen was shown. The cartoon "Modern Inventions" was shown
("Your hat, sir!"), because of the Barks connection, and then the
atomsphere got sort of tenser, as we all waited for Barks to arrive.
Barks seemed very healthy and good-humoured. He answered some
questions by Stefan Di"os, first questions he was prepared for since
the day before that, and then questions from the audience. Bill
Grandey (notorious to this list...) sat by Barks's side all the time.
As I thought beforehand none of Barks's answers were that interesting
-- after all, he's has already answered "everything" so many times
before, or the questions are about things he has forgotten a long time
ago, or don't care about.
Before the meeting it was said that there would be absolutely no
signing of anything, and PLEASE noone ask for anything like that, but
it turned out there was to be a signing session anyway when Barks
would sign books and comics for the few who had brought such stuff
anyway, and the rest of us got pre-signed small folders reproducing
oils. So for those later on the tour who care about getting comics
signed that might be worthwhile to bring stuff even if it is
said explicitly that there will be no signing.
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at minsk.docs.uu.se
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
meeting yesterday when Barks met Swedish fans, but I don't have that
much to say. Before Barks arrived Olof Siverbo and Magnus Knutsson
delivered talks on Carl Barks, and recent slides from Barks's visit in
Copenhagen was shown. The cartoon "Modern Inventions" was shown
("Your hat, sir!"), because of the Barks connection, and then the
atomsphere got sort of tenser, as we all waited for Barks to arrive.
Barks seemed very healthy and good-humoured. He answered some
questions by Stefan Di"os, first questions he was prepared for since
the day before that, and then questions from the audience. Bill
Grandey (notorious to this list...) sat by Barks's side all the time.
As I thought beforehand none of Barks's answers were that interesting
-- after all, he's has already answered "everything" so many times
before, or the questions are about things he has forgotten a long time
ago, or don't care about.
Before the meeting it was said that there would be absolutely no
signing of anything, and PLEASE noone ask for anything like that, but
it turned out there was to be a signing session anyway when Barks
would sign books and comics for the few who had brought such stuff
anyway, and the rest of us got pre-signed small folders reproducing
oils. So for those later on the tour who care about getting comics
signed that might be worthwhile to bring stuff even if it is
said explicitly that there will be no signing.
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at minsk.docs.uu.se
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
Bror Hellman
Veni, vidi, vici or something
Message 71 -
1994-06-20 at 20:21:15
> The new Barks-Van Horn story will be published in Finland in Aku Ankka
> 1/95 because that's also our #2000. It's 24-page long, but I forgot
> to ask if he also did layouts for it...
We asked him in Stockholm. He said that he hadn't done *any* artwork
related to this story. And if I understood him correct, neither did he do
any sketches for the story. Just type-written text.
Steamboat Willie
----------------------------------------------
... Does The Little Mermaid wear an algebra?
----------------------------------------------
Internet: hellman at proxxi.uf.se, DuckNet: hellman at 313:100/13.0
> 1/95 because that's also our #2000. It's 24-page long, but I forgot
> to ask if he also did layouts for it...
We asked him in Stockholm. He said that he hadn't done *any* artwork
related to this story. And if I understood him correct, neither did he do
any sketches for the story. Just type-written text.
Steamboat Willie
----------------------------------------------
... Does The Little Mermaid wear an algebra?
----------------------------------------------
Internet: hellman at proxxi.uf.se, DuckNet: hellman at 313:100/13.0
Don Rosa
Disney-comics digest #362.
Message 72 -
1994-06-21 at 06:41:04
Well, he tricked me. Barks wasn't in the Grand Canyon after all.
I stalked and stalked, but no luck.
I stalked and stalked, but no luck.
Mattias Hallin
Various comments to Don
Message 73 -
1994-06-21 at 09:00:53
DON!
I hope Arizona was good for walking, if not for stalking, and that
you and your wife has had a great time! I don't think I need to tell
you in any detail what I think of dear Mr Grandey (don't wanna give
HIM cause for any lawsuit against ME); and I'm equally sure you know
I'll be cheering you all the way, if and when you take that McViper
fella to the cleaners!!!
But for now, lets rather talk about that of your work which I've
lately come across, but as yet not commented upon. And this time, It
seems to me I might concentrate more on critique, than on praise --
though I hope it is what someone recently called TCC (Thoughtful
Constructive Critique); 'cause I certainly did enjoy these stories
through and through, believe me!
Guardians of the Lost Library
=============================
This'n is a beaut! and my main point of criticism is more of a
philosophical one, than directed against the story, which is indeed
marvelous. My quarrel, though, is with the Junior Woodchucks' "highest
ideal", that of "preservation of knowledge". Preservation is just the
right word, though -- as in e.g. preserved rutabagas! What they seem
to mean by preservation is to bottle knowledge up real tight, and then
limit access to Junior Woodchucks ONLY! This might seem OK, as long as
their aim is to "protect the guidebook /which, as your story goes to
show, is more or less the condensed libraries of all mankind/ from
being exploited to make a profit". Sure -- but who'd profit by the
lost works of Aristotle, f'rinstance, or all the rest of what must be
the bulk of the guidebook? Except mankind, of course -- to whom that
knowledge truly would belong, did that guidebook actually exist. I
mean, I'm well aware that we're discussin' a work of fiction (and a
COMIC BOOK ditto, to boot! /Sorry -- jes' kiddin'/) here, but as long
as the guidebook was "just" the guidebook, and the wellspring of its
fountain of knowledge remained mysterious, the Woodchuck attitude
towards the guidebook was tenable, but with your story added, that
attitude becomes IMHO downright immoral. What right have they to
deprive their fellow beings of all that historical and other
knowledge? -- and wouldn't museums all over the world benefit, for no
reason of profit, from finding all those "lost treasures", that
$crooge is after?!
Well, I got meself a bit carried away there -- but I AM an historian
myself, after all, with that profession's attitude towards sources and
sourcematerial, and the historians access to it..
The Duck Who Never Was (Norwegian edition)
==========================================
I've nothing but praise for this'n -- and I really can't see why the
Swedish editors wouldn't use it (BTW: Knut -- I haven't forgotten that
I still owe you for that'n; I'm just a little low on funds, and
waiting for payday!). A very nicely twist of a story, and full of
little details; like f'rinstance how you use your own version of the
family tree, when Gus explains how he is related to $crooge, and where
$crooge's sister only has had one child; who in her turn is the mother
of three children (no Donald there...) -- or the graffitti outside the
museum, one tag by a certain "Don", and a caricature on the wall of
someone called "Byron"... And the Beagle Boys make marvelous crooked
cops! What I liked best, though, was perhaps the two panels on the
last but one page, where $crooge gives Donald a present of soda-pop
(or whatever you called it English), and really means it too, but
keeps the bottles to get his deposit back...
Life of $crooge #12
===================
First I have to agree with what you and others have said about the
story needing another four or five pages: I agree that it is a bit too
compressed; not only in the chase-sequence, I think, but also while
developing the emotions as $crooge slowly thaws to his relatives. Also
I think your portrayal of Donald shows him a little too dull and
uninterested -- as a matter of fact a bit like in GotLL, where his
only interest seems to be the TV. In, f'rindtance, "Return to Xanadu"
your portrayal of Donald seems to me to be more subtle and complex,
more like Barks does Donald in what is perhaps my two favourite
stories: "Old California" and "Vacation Time". Thats a minor point,
though. One more thing concerning Donald in Lo$ #12: In the newsreel
sequence Donald says to the camera (at least in the Norwegian
translation) that if someone mentions "tougher than the toughies" and
"made it square" once more he'll get furious. Why is this so, when he
has as yet only met his Uncle once, and the only to kick his hiney?!?
Actually Donald tells HD&L that very thing: that he only met his Uncle
once, and that he was then younger than they are in 1947 (when they
are seven) -- but that was (or am I mistaken?) in 1930, when Donald
was ten! Huccome?
Howsomever, I have to grant you, at last, after having seen your
entire Lo$ that, YES! it makes sense to have $crooge build his
moneybin already in 1902 (or thereabouts). I guess. OK.
All in all I found #12 a worthy final to a great achievment!
Congatulations are, I think, in order!!!
Well -- as always, my best to one'n'all!
Mattias
!==============================================================================!
!* Mattias Hallin ** <Mattias.Hallin at Jurenh.lu.se> ** Phone: +46 46-14 84 43 **!
!* Trollebergsvagen 24 B ***** Work: Lund University, Box 117, S-221 00 Lund **!
!* S-222 29 Lund, SWEDEN **************************** Phone: +46 46-10 71 37 **!
!==============================================================================!
!************** "Give me land, lots of land! Don't fence me in!" **************!
!==============================================================================!
I hope Arizona was good for walking, if not for stalking, and that
you and your wife has had a great time! I don't think I need to tell
you in any detail what I think of dear Mr Grandey (don't wanna give
HIM cause for any lawsuit against ME); and I'm equally sure you know
I'll be cheering you all the way, if and when you take that McViper
fella to the cleaners!!!
But for now, lets rather talk about that of your work which I've
lately come across, but as yet not commented upon. And this time, It
seems to me I might concentrate more on critique, than on praise --
though I hope it is what someone recently called TCC (Thoughtful
Constructive Critique); 'cause I certainly did enjoy these stories
through and through, believe me!
Guardians of the Lost Library
=============================
This'n is a beaut! and my main point of criticism is more of a
philosophical one, than directed against the story, which is indeed
marvelous. My quarrel, though, is with the Junior Woodchucks' "highest
ideal", that of "preservation of knowledge". Preservation is just the
right word, though -- as in e.g. preserved rutabagas! What they seem
to mean by preservation is to bottle knowledge up real tight, and then
limit access to Junior Woodchucks ONLY! This might seem OK, as long as
their aim is to "protect the guidebook /which, as your story goes to
show, is more or less the condensed libraries of all mankind/ from
being exploited to make a profit". Sure -- but who'd profit by the
lost works of Aristotle, f'rinstance, or all the rest of what must be
the bulk of the guidebook? Except mankind, of course -- to whom that
knowledge truly would belong, did that guidebook actually exist. I
mean, I'm well aware that we're discussin' a work of fiction (and a
COMIC BOOK ditto, to boot! /Sorry -- jes' kiddin'/) here, but as long
as the guidebook was "just" the guidebook, and the wellspring of its
fountain of knowledge remained mysterious, the Woodchuck attitude
towards the guidebook was tenable, but with your story added, that
attitude becomes IMHO downright immoral. What right have they to
deprive their fellow beings of all that historical and other
knowledge? -- and wouldn't museums all over the world benefit, for no
reason of profit, from finding all those "lost treasures", that
$crooge is after?!
Well, I got meself a bit carried away there -- but I AM an historian
myself, after all, with that profession's attitude towards sources and
sourcematerial, and the historians access to it..
The Duck Who Never Was (Norwegian edition)
==========================================
I've nothing but praise for this'n -- and I really can't see why the
Swedish editors wouldn't use it (BTW: Knut -- I haven't forgotten that
I still owe you for that'n; I'm just a little low on funds, and
waiting for payday!). A very nicely twist of a story, and full of
little details; like f'rinstance how you use your own version of the
family tree, when Gus explains how he is related to $crooge, and where
$crooge's sister only has had one child; who in her turn is the mother
of three children (no Donald there...) -- or the graffitti outside the
museum, one tag by a certain "Don", and a caricature on the wall of
someone called "Byron"... And the Beagle Boys make marvelous crooked
cops! What I liked best, though, was perhaps the two panels on the
last but one page, where $crooge gives Donald a present of soda-pop
(or whatever you called it English), and really means it too, but
keeps the bottles to get his deposit back...
Life of $crooge #12
===================
First I have to agree with what you and others have said about the
story needing another four or five pages: I agree that it is a bit too
compressed; not only in the chase-sequence, I think, but also while
developing the emotions as $crooge slowly thaws to his relatives. Also
I think your portrayal of Donald shows him a little too dull and
uninterested -- as a matter of fact a bit like in GotLL, where his
only interest seems to be the TV. In, f'rindtance, "Return to Xanadu"
your portrayal of Donald seems to me to be more subtle and complex,
more like Barks does Donald in what is perhaps my two favourite
stories: "Old California" and "Vacation Time". Thats a minor point,
though. One more thing concerning Donald in Lo$ #12: In the newsreel
sequence Donald says to the camera (at least in the Norwegian
translation) that if someone mentions "tougher than the toughies" and
"made it square" once more he'll get furious. Why is this so, when he
has as yet only met his Uncle once, and the only to kick his hiney?!?
Actually Donald tells HD&L that very thing: that he only met his Uncle
once, and that he was then younger than they are in 1947 (when they
are seven) -- but that was (or am I mistaken?) in 1930, when Donald
was ten! Huccome?
Howsomever, I have to grant you, at last, after having seen your
entire Lo$ that, YES! it makes sense to have $crooge build his
moneybin already in 1902 (or thereabouts). I guess. OK.
All in all I found #12 a worthy final to a great achievment!
Congatulations are, I think, in order!!!
Well -- as always, my best to one'n'all!
Mattias
!==============================================================================!
!* Mattias Hallin ** <Mattias.Hallin at Jurenh.lu.se> ** Phone: +46 46-14 84 43 **!
!* Trollebergsvagen 24 B ***** Work: Lund University, Box 117, S-221 00 Lund **!
!* S-222 29 Lund, SWEDEN **************************** Phone: +46 46-10 71 37 **!
!==============================================================================!
!************** "Give me land, lots of land! Don't fence me in!" **************!
!==============================================================================!
Mattias Hallin
Disney-comics digest #362.
Message 74 -
1994-06-21 at 10:44:09
"> The new Barks-Van Horn story will be published in Finland in Aku Ankka
> 1/95 because that's also our #2000. It's 24-page long, but I forgot
> to ask if he also did layouts for it...
We asked him in Stockholm. He said that he hadn't done *any* artwork
related to this story. And if I understood him correct, neither did he do
any sketches for the story. Just type-written text."
...said Mikko and Bror.
Yes. as I think I said the other day what art I was able to see at the Kulorte
Bibliotek in Copenhagen looked entirely van horn-ish to me; and if Barks
hisself says he's done no artwork on "Horsing around..." -- well then that
orter be settled, then!
All me best
Mattias
> 1/95 because that's also our #2000. It's 24-page long, but I forgot
> to ask if he also did layouts for it...
We asked him in Stockholm. He said that he hadn't done *any* artwork
related to this story. And if I understood him correct, neither did he do
any sketches for the story. Just type-written text."
...said Mikko and Bror.
Yes. as I think I said the other day what art I was able to see at the Kulorte
Bibliotek in Copenhagen looked entirely van horn-ish to me; and if Barks
hisself says he's done no artwork on "Horsing around..." -- well then that
orter be settled, then!
All me best
Mattias
Harry Fluks
Horsing around with scripts
Message 75 -
1994-06-21 at 14:24:41
Mattias:
> Yes. as I think I said the other day what art I was able to see at the Kulorte
> Bibliotek in Copenhagen looked entirely van horn-ish to me; and if Barks
> hisself says he's done no artwork on "Horsing around..." -- well then that
> orter be settled, then!
OK. Fine. But Michel Nadorp told me he had the full 24-page *script* of the
story, in the form of penciled pages. And the first half page *script* was
published in a Dutch fanzine. (BTW: This half page splash panel does not
contain any Ducks, and I can't see whether or not it's Barks' drawing style.)
So maybe the pencils are Van Horn's. Maybe Barks reviewed these pages before
Van Horn inked them?
--Harry.
Harry PTT Research ()_() Dutch Disney comics freak
Fluks Leidschendam (_) H.W.Fluks at research.ptt.nl
"Yeah... I've _heard_ of coral barques!"
> Yes. as I think I said the other day what art I was able to see at the Kulorte
> Bibliotek in Copenhagen looked entirely van horn-ish to me; and if Barks
> hisself says he's done no artwork on "Horsing around..." -- well then that
> orter be settled, then!
OK. Fine. But Michel Nadorp told me he had the full 24-page *script* of the
story, in the form of penciled pages. And the first half page *script* was
published in a Dutch fanzine. (BTW: This half page splash panel does not
contain any Ducks, and I can't see whether or not it's Barks' drawing style.)
So maybe the pencils are Van Horn's. Maybe Barks reviewed these pages before
Van Horn inked them?
--Harry.
Harry PTT Research ()_() Dutch Disney comics freak
Fluks Leidschendam (_) H.W.Fluks at research.ptt.nl
"Yeah... I've _heard_ of coral barques!"