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On Fri, 30 Sep 1994, James Williams wrote:

> You're both correct. Carl Barks gave up drawing comic books before he
> quit writing them. The catch is that Carl didn't use scripts, he used
> rough breakdowns instead. According to Mark Evanier, this was a
> normal method used by most "funny animal" publishers. I think Archie
> Comics still uses this method. So Carl Barks wrote a series of
> Junior Woodchuck stories. These were finished by other people and
> printed. But, the artwork wasn't anything special. Daan Jippes
> has been re-inking these stories.
>
When I attended the Barks exhibit in Hannover, Germany, they had a JWW
story on display. The pages were the rough pencils and layouts from
Barks, and the story was about the JWWs ferrying animals to a nature
preserve. (One of the acronyms was A.R.K.) It was quite funny, and I
wonder why Gladstone doesn't publish these, either from the original Gold
Key issues, or the re-inkings. As Don Rosa has proven, a good story can
lessen bad art. (Just kidding, Don! Your art is wonderful!) And from
what I can recall, the early HDLs had decent art.

T.O.R.S.T.E.N. A.D.A.I.R. torsten at cwis.unomaha.edu Omaha, NE, USA

Donald Duck & Co #52
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The lead story is a Dutch story (H8499, 10 pages). A foreign stamp
collector is coming to Duckburg to buy a stamp from Scrooge. Scrooge
refuses to sell it. Donald wants to help HDL with their stamp collection
(they will sell the stamps to buy icecream), and tears off the stamp from
the letter, where this collector is telling he's coming. He also tears of
a bit of the letter. This makes Scrooge believe that the collector wants
to buy a pillow from him. He puts the pillow in a box, and asks Donald
to deliver it. Donald wants to send it by mail instead of walking to
the hotel. He then puts a stamp on it. Guess which one!
Rest of the story is about getting it back. A good story. Good art.
Art by Jan Guldbransson (thanks, Harry. Your index is very useful :)

Next is a Beagle Boys story (D92313, 6 pages). The BB are released from
prison. Their nephews come to visit them. After some days, the BB want
to get back to the prison.

The third story is a Madam Mim story (H90102, 2 pages). She wants an
egg for breakfast. She finds it to be very difficult to use magic to
create one.

The fourth story is Barks' "Serum to Codfish Cove" (WR/WDC 114 A,
10 pages).

Then the second, and (fortunately) last part of the Zoom Transport
story (D93291, 8 pages).

Last is a DD one-pager (KF 10.13.46).

Jorgen

Mikke Mus #1 1995
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First another bad Mickey story (D93153, 6 pages). Mickey is visited
by a foolish and naive cousin. He gets into trouble, and Mickey gets
him out of it.

In the second story (D90189, 17 pages) Scrooge is told that one of
his oil wells in Alaska is empty. He goes there to check it, and
finds that an alien space ship has crashed there.
A few good gags, but mostly stupid.

The third story is better, though not much better (D91395, 8 pages).
Donald and HDL has just seen a werewolf movie. The boys are really
scared. Donald finds it very amusing to scare them even more. They
take revenge by dressing Donald like a werewolf while he is asleep.
He scares up most of the neighboorhood while he's chasing a thief.
The werewolf look disappear when he falls into the water, but he's
put in jail because the police want to see if he turns into a werewolf
again at next fullmoon.

Last is a Goofy one-pager (D93320).

Jorgen

ALL: On the subject of Scrooge collectables, has anyone seen a Scrooge
cookie jar? I've been trying to find one for some time, as my wife would
like it for her collection. Some years back I saw a Scrooge bank, complete
with brass-rimmed spectacles, done in a bright green, which would have made
a nice jar. Any ideas?

Anyone for 23,000,000 quarts of pickled rutabagas?

Just a small remark about the Lion King.

In Italy, the adaptation has been published as the main story in a recent
issue of the weekly 'Topolino'. Yes, they have the rights...

And yes, Fredrik, I wrongly wrote Elmer (Fudd, maybe...) instead of
Ellsworth: only Gad knows why...

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DON:

> Very astute -- of course, in my version of "The Treasury of
>Croesus", DD would not be singing that ABBA song. The story dealt with
>Croesus, the king of ancient Lydia -- when the Ducks are approaching the
>Museum, U$ asks DD what he knows of Lydia, and DD say he learned all
>about Lydia watching the Late Show and goes into a rendition of "Lydia
>the Tattooed Lady" (best known as the song Groucho sings in AT THE
>CIRCUS). DD breaks into this song every few pages throughout the story
>as the running gag. I knew when I wrote this into my story that it would
>cause problems for translators, but sometimes I just ignore this problem
>so that I won't be so burdened with it, and have faith in the able
>translators to come up with their own solutions. I knew of Stefan Dios'
>solution for his translation in KALLE ANKA & CO., and it seems a good
>one. Of course, that song was not written when my story is supposed to
>be taking place (c. 1955), but that's okay.
> The bigger problem will come when Gladstone reprints the story
>-- I've recently found out that Gladstone cannot print a full line out
>of a song that is still under copyright, and as old as "Lydia" is, it's
>probably still covered by some ancient copyright as songs are. (For
>instance, would you believe that "Happy Birthday to you" is covered by
>a copyright, and every time it is sung in a movie or TV show, two
>little old ladies here in Louisville get a check for 1 cent or
>something like that. This answers the question you might have as to why
>you hear that tune oddly paraphrased in movies now and then -- not to
>avoid the 1 cent payment {only Disney would do that} but to avoid the
>needless red tape.) Anyway, we'll worry about that problem when the
>times comes -- perhaps Gladstone can use the original song by just
>changing one word in each line? I had to change a few words even in my
>script since the lyrics are rather risque for a 1995 Disney comic, even
>though the tune was written about 70 years ago.

That reminds me of a similar situation in a Brazilian version:
Editora Abril (the local Disney comics publisher) could neither
translate the original tune nor transcribe verbatim the lyrics of a
Brazilian classic substitute.

The story is "Mickey e a Ilha do ce'u" (no code available)
published originally in Brazilian _Mickey_ #12 (around mid-50's, I
guess): Mickey and Goofy follow a flying car and find an island floating
in the sky, inhabited by an idealistic "mad" scientist. (anybody know
about that story?)

The song appears on page 10, panels 13-15. Sorry, I can't
really reproduce the characters with accents in this ^%@#$&%#@ 7-bit
environment...

ACTUAL LYRICS |STORY TEXT
-------------------------|-------------------------------
Lata d'a'gua na cabec,a, |13: Lata de o'leo na cabec,a,
La' vai Maria, | La' vai Maria...
La' vai Maria |
Sobe o morro e na~o se |14: ...o morro e na~o se
cansa | cansa...
Pela ma~o leva a crianc,a|15: Pelas asas da esperanc,a...
La' vai Maria |

I've come across a number of Brazilian song insertions in
foreigh-made Disney comics (though local Disney production has been
quite large since the 60's), but the've always managed to make them
as natural as possible. All in all, the translation is excellent; much
better for Disney than for superhero Marvel and DC versions from the
same Editora Abril.

_____m__(0/\0)__m_____ []s, Paulo Barreto
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BOB W.:
I have watched the skies for every Duck toy or item with extreme
care for several decades, and I feel confidant that there has never been
an Uncle $crooge cookie jar, at least not in America (where there have
been very few $crooge items altogether). But then, of all the $crooge
banks I have, none of them have wire-rim specks such as the one you
describe -- where did you see that and are you sure of it?

I got your address out of the Internet Yellow Pages. I am a big Disney fan
and I was wondering exactly what you are about. Is it something I can get
involved in or is it a private organization?

I look forward to hearing from you!

Thanks!