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Snow Hut
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Don Rosa
Please don't unsubscribe me to the list.
Ajd105
I believe it was me that suggested "Hard Haid Moe" as the name
of the hillbilly character. I think another Australian reader
of this group (or maybe someone with Australian comics) who
suggested "hog haid moe". I'll stand by my recall for now, but
my comics are 800 miles away (like everyone elses seem to be..)
and I could be wrong. Certainly the character is very "hard-headed".

There is one story I would really like to see again, in which
Scrooge and Fethry combine with Moe to open up a "country style
restaurant", with comic results. Maybe one day.

While I'm here, there was a letter in one of the recent Gladstones
which mentioned the Barks non-Disney stories, but the Gladstone
response was pretty much "aint Disney, can't do it". Does anyone
know of any reason Gladstone couldn't get the rights and publish
them in a series of three or four albums? I would really like to
get those stories in a better format than the Barks Bear Book.

Andrew Davies

"Then ah turns to the west and hopes for the best."
PAULO BARRETO
Ave ALL...

Sorry for delayed replies; I was in last college test but now I
just have to take my diploma in March and watch many people eating their
hearts out... :-)

HARRY:

The first Brazilian Disney title, _O Pato Donald_, has been
published since 1950, and since then all covers have been made by
Brazilian artists. The first Brazilian stories appeared around 1960
but it took a long time until they were exported (but then Brazil began
importing a lot of Italian stories, too).

HF>There is _one_ Brazilian story reprinted in the USA.
>Maybe you know what "RMK" means?

Reprinted from (Brazilian title) _Mickey_.

Other major codes: PD = Pato Donald; TP = Tio Patinhas (Uncle
$crooge); AD = Almanaque Disney; ZC = Ze' Carioca; MG = Margarida
(Daisy); DE = Disney Especial.

I'm trying to download the interlingual list but I'm having some
trouble with FTPmail. Please wait.

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PAULO BARRETO
Greetings, my people...

HARRY:

HF> Habakuk was one of his names, I think his Brazilian one.

Moe's name in Brazil is very different; he's called Urtiga~o
among us. About FAQs about Moe and Fethry: good idea! I hope all
users will approve them.

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Mike Pohjola
Well, now when you mentioned the bank (if it is the one, where $crooge
has either blue or red coat and his black glasses and stick can both be
taken off) which is quite easy to get in Finland, since the Finnish
National bank - Kansallis-Osake-Pankki still gives them to kids for free.
So, us 'lurkers' (grr ;) from Finland would be delighted to send a one
for any of you people out there (of course, on your bill).
Now, when we're on the issue, all kind of Disney merchandising is
very popular in Finland and there's a Finnish guy, Pentti Hauhiala or
something like that, who has many thousands of them and most of them were
bought in Finland. I've seen pictures of his house and there's nothing in
there which does NOT have Disney in it :)

DON:
Your "Treasury of Croesus" was also printed in the Finnish Donald Duck
issue 1/1995, which was also the 2000th issue of the magazine and contained
about twenty extra pages where "Horsing around with history" was in.

JORGEN:
> Loki Sky-walker... There's something familiar with that name...

If you would translate "Loki" in a more American form such as "Luke"?-)
Use the Force, Loki...:)

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Mike - The Finnish Trekkie
Daniel Shane
>So, us 'lurkers' (grr ;) from Finland would be delighted to send a one
>for any of you people out there (of course, on your bill).

MIKE:

If you will explain how you would like to handle such a transaction, I would
love to have such a prize. My $crooge collection pales next to Don's, but
it gives me great satisfaction, and I would be tickled to add to the $crooge
shelf.
PAULO BARRETO
ANDREW:

I'm glad to hear from Australia over this list.
Now for the on-topic issues... :-)

>Scrooge and Fethry combine with Moe to open up a "country style
>restaurant"

I remember another U$/Fethry/restaurant story: Fethry sets up a
diner in an abandoned $crooge's railway car; $crooge finds it out in
Donald's first day as an engineer. Brazil has produced some so-so
Fethry/Moe stories as "Hospitality Day" (Moe must treat Fethry as a
king).

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WILMER:

Moe is *not* as smashingly popular in Brazil as some messages
may mean. I was noticed his title has been recently cancelled by Abril,
possibly favoring a new, less expensive (Moe's book was quite
inexpensive anyway!), non-character-oriented title. Even though, I
believe Moe's title has lived a little longer than Goofy's or Fethry's
(in fact, Brazil's recent big hits, as '86 Daisy, are rare; traditional
titles as Donald, Mickey and $crooge remain the top sellers). Comic
books come and go; that's business...

I can't remember outstanding Brazil-made stories with Moe, as
most of them deal with obvious urbanite-hillbilly clashes (Moe visits
Duckburg, Fethry visits Moe, etc.) and some poorly inserted local
folklore elements that may be hard to understand in other countries.
Maybe Italy is reprinting some of them.

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Don Rosa
ANDREW D.:
I'm sure you can guess the reason why Gladstone won't try to get
the rights to publish those non-Disney Barks stories. They would need to
negotiate and pay for the rights to publish ALL MGM comics (Barney Bear
was an MGM character) and that would be far too expensive and bothersome
to do just to print a handful of stories about a character that 99.999%
of the populace has never heard of or care about just for the pleasure
of a tiny handful of knowledgeable Barks fans. Plus they would need to
establish another separate title (they wouldn't be allowed to use them
in a Disney title), and there are all manner of extra expenses and
difficulties involved in that undertaking, with the final result being
neglible sales and huge losses.
Another reason they can't do all that is that Harvey Comics
already HAS the rights to print the MGM comics, and has been using
Barks' Bear stories in the backs of their TOM & JERRY comics. TOM &
JERRY is currently back in sight in a new TV series, so they can sell
the title to kiddies and stick some of those Barks stories in the back
for the miniscule number of readers who care or know who Barks is.

MIKE P.:
They put my "Treasury of Croesus" story in the same issue with
Barks' "Horsing Around with History"? Very interesting. Both stories
deal with the search for a treasure from ancient Asia Minor. There was
even a few lines in my story that contradict things in Barks', where I
say that Heinrich Schleimann found the treasure of Troy. (When I did my
story over a year ago, I had no idea what the subject of Barks' tale
would be -- I'd had plans for the Croesus story in my notes since 1987.)
By the way, did I ever beg you to get me copies of AKKU ANKA
which have my stories in them? I'm very interested in that! Also, if
they ever (as you or someone mentioned) wrote that article about me or
put the notice in AKKU ANKA to send in "fan"mail to me which would be
forwarded, I'd like to know about and see that as well. (Those
publishers NEVER keep me posted as to what they're doing to me.)
Mike Pohjola
HOMEBREW:
Supposing, you won't come to Finland and I won't come to USA and
that neither of us has no frined etc. who will do that, I'd say I have
to send you a packet by mail (not e-). Tell me your address to
mikep at freenet.hut.fi.

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Mike - The Finnish Trekkie
Bev Keddy
Also, please don't unsubscribe me (hah, hah).

Happy New Year, everyone.

I had a question for Don. A few days ago he mentioned how Marvel is
undergoing a sigificant downsizing. This was the first I'd heard of it. I
was wondering if he has any more details on this? I realize this doesn't
have a lot to do with Disney comics so if he doesn't want to get into those
details for that reason, I'll understand.

Also, does Don know whether Gladstone will collect his Life of Scrooge saga
into an album? I would certainly buy at least two copies: one for me,
and one for my niece.

Talk to you later. I love this list!
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Bev Keddy
Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
Email:nstn1173 at fox.nstn.ca
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Don Rosa
BEV:
No, I don't know much more about the Marvel "downsizing" than I'd said.
Of the parts of the Marvel company, the toys and TV shows are earning plenty of
money, but as I said, comics are losing the buyer base they gained when the card
speculators jumped into the hobby about 5 years or so ago. Super-hero comic
sales are dropping. Marvel is downsizing to readjust to the market, and I would
be surprized if they didn't lop off the Disney titles (if Disney would allow
this) since those are not taken seriously by American comic buyers. But I dunno
-- they might sell pretty well being caught up in the American passion to let
Disney control them like sheep and buy LION KING this and ALLADIN that, ad
infinitum. Of course, the comics still require reading, which the t-shirts and
lunch boxes don't, so I don't know what they'll do.
As to Gladstone, their sales are still fine, not being subject to any
effects of the loss of the card speculators and other American "collectibles
louts" that WIZARD magazine and its ilk have brought into the hobby. And they
defineitely WILL be publishing the "Lo$" as a collected album with lots of
extras. I think they might do it as 2 or 3 albums rather than one 230 page
hardback since that would be too expensive for lots of buyers -- but this is all
still well over a year in the future.
Per Starback
Last year Carl Barks made a European trip, and at least I saw that as
a unique, once-in-a-lifetime event, but now word is that he'll be back
to Europe in May this year. I have no details about this yet, though.
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Per
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