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Hi, all.

HARRY: I must have been nuts when I said Dutch stories don't
exist in France. I had completely forgotten that they had taken a
fancy to Mau Heymans; his work appears in most issues of PICSOU
monthly as well as the special you saw. Years ago, they also used a
very occasional Verhagen story (c. 1985).

PAULO: I got the idea that Jose Carioca was the main Brazilian
Disney character from that Dutch article. Guess I was wrong.
If Hard Haid Moe can have his own title not once, but twice a
month, then Brazil must beat out even Italy as a place where
absolutely everything Disney can sell. (Of course, maybe the stories
that they're doing now are excellent. But what I mean is, that even
the most obscure characters are very popular in Brazil.)
I'd like to think that Disney would object to Jose dressing
like a rap musician, but I'm sure they'd never mind. >Sigh< I've
seen a recent record album that has Mickey dressed that way on the
front. It's just the old bit that because these characters are all
just actors to Disney, it's not out of character to dress them in
ways that comic fans know they'd never choose.
If there are some relatively short (i. e. 8 pages or less)
Jose Carioca stories by Cannini, maybe Gladstone could use one next
year. I'd be interested to see one.

DWIGHT: I have plenty of ideas for Br'er Rabbit, but the
problem with Li'l Bad Wolf is that I almost feel like every good idea
has been used already.
I always thought it was interesting how Br'er Bear, while often
at odds with Zeke, remains ultimately a friend of the Wolves. Even
more interesting is how Br'er Fox is a family friend in so many
stories. To everyone else, Br'er Fox is a homicidal maniac. I guess
the cream on the cake is how comfortable Li'l Wolf is with all of
this (for example, in the "crane" story reprinted in Egmont's
Christmas special last year). His friendship with "preyed-upon"
animals like the Pigs and Br'er Rabbit doesn't cancel out his feeling
at-home in the Forest's "predator community". He'll fraternize over
the Thanksgiving table with someone who would eat other friends of
his. What a dizzy world!

JORGEN: You found me a Norwegian copy of "Two in One"???
Gosh, thanks! My address is Masson House, Pollock Halls, 18 Holyrood
Park Rd., Edinburgh EH16 5AY. I'll send you a British weekly in
exchange, when I can.

MY FINAL COMMENT ON THE LENTIL STORY is that upon looking at it
again last night, I realized that no matter what anyone else says, it
really does have too much dialogue in it. I put about 25 words, not
the usual 15 or so, in most balloons. So I've gone through
"Colossus" and trimmed it here and there.
Disney did change a few things I forgot to note; both here and
in Part I, they took out every time a character told another to be
quiet! From the merely irritated "shaddap" to the sharp "can it,
nephew," they were all taken out! In the third part, I used "button
your beaks". We'll see if that stays in there.
Disney also objected to any type of insult. 176-176, disguised
as a ghost, referred to HDL as "fools" while trying to sound high and
mighty, and that was cut; I imagine US calling DD "lout" in the
third part will be axed as well.
I always thought one of the great things about US and DD was
their tempers. I know Russell Schroeder at Disney personally, so
I'll send him a letter pointing out some of that type of language in
the old Barks stories. Maybe he forgot how common it was. Remember
that great last panel in WDC&S 141's Think Box story?

David Gerstein
<9475609 at arran.sms.ed.ac.uk>

please only send me a few mails a day, as there is way to much mail for me to
read, and i really don't understand half of it anyway.

Ave, Harry!

HF>This is the MM story "Sky Island",

Thanks for your help. About the different versions: I have the
original '36/37 Gottfredson/Osborne version, reprinted in a '77 album.
That translation was originally printed in mid-50's; quite late, really,
but that time there were not so much Disney titles (only Donald from
1950 and later Mickey), although they always have published a lot of
those Gottfredson newspaper stories.

Let's watch out for what David has to write about it...

_____m__(0/\0)__m_____ Paulo Barreto

MINNIEFAY: there are only two possibilities of getting mail from
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moderating this list: all messages are just sent through to all
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I can understand why you complain about the amount of messages, as
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again TO ALL WHO WANT TO (UN)SUBSCRIBE:

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I can also understand you have problems with understanding all we are
talking about. We once planned to start a Frequently Asked Questions
file about this mailing list, but it never got so far. There are some
files that may help you on "our" ftp site (ftp.lysator.liu.se),
for instance the file "story-codes", which contains a list of
countries and editors that produce Disney comics.

We may be not very clear about what we're talking about. One reason
for that is that some of the list members have to PAY for every byte
of information sent to this list. That's why we don't like repeating
things here that have been explained before.

But always feel free to ask questions about things you don't understand!
We could also send you explanations in private mail, if it's too big
for the list.

--Harry.
"Wie ben ik? Wat doe ik hier? Waar is mijn Roddelflop?"

Wilmer:
> I am amazed to read about the popularity of Hard-Haid Moe in Brazil
> and elsewhere. Are we in the USA missing out on something important
> by not reading stories with Moe, and maybe stories with that hillbilly
> that people talked about before and whose name I don't remember

That's in fact the same character. Habakuk was one of his names, I think
his Brazilian one.

BTW: I don't know what I'm talking about either: Moe appeared in Holland
only on a copy of a Brazilian cover (in an article about Brazil).

We zertanly (I mean certainly) need an FAQ about Moe (and Fethry)!

--Harry.

Yesterday I mentioned a Danish (Serieforlaget) christmas special. Now
I've written up a list of the stories.

The 'book' (hardcover) seems to have two titles; "Disney's Christmas
Classics" and "From all of us to all of you". The last is also the title
of the Disney christmas cartoon show on TV in Denmark.

Julestemning (Christmas mood?)
U$ I-1778 A magic christmas book (not good)
MM og kometens datter (MM & the comets daughter)
MM I-1930 Argaar, parallel dimension (very good)
En vandret loesning (A horizontal solution)
DD 1-page
En musikalsk overraskelse
U$ I-1986 U$ & Glomgold ('The last laugh is the best laugh'(?)) (good)
Super-mule redder julen (Super Goof saves christmas)
SG I-1935 Mad scientists
Anders And ruller sig ud
DD 1-page
En pjusket jul
U$ B-820205 U$ celebrates christmas with Pjuske (Fethry's nephew)
Nye, gamle bekendte (New, old acquaintences(sp?))
MM I-1934 Morty & Ferdie meets BP's niece
Tag tre, betal for en
DD 1-page

Where should this info be stored (should it?)? I suppose some reformatting
is needed, but what?

Greetings,
Jacob Sparre Andersen
--
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On Wed, 11 Jan 1995, DAVID.A.GERSTEIN wrote:
> If Hard Haid Moe can have his own title not once, but twice a
> month, then Brazil must beat out even Italy as a place where
> absolutely everything Disney can sell.

David, you have used the name Hard Haid Moe before for this character,
but I am quite sure that whoever reported the English name originally
some time ago (sorry, I have forgotten who it was) wrote it "Hog Haid
Moe". Could we please bring some order into this?

/F

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