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DAVID:

I remember the blue coloring of U$'s coat has always been used
in our local Sunday funnies, so it didn't look so odd to me in
"Ducktales" (the coat is red in Brazilian comic books, though). Do you
know something about why have they decided for the blue coat on
animation?

_____m__(0/\0)__m_____ Paulo Barreto

Hi, folks.

DWIGHT: The huge collections you picked up would be GROOT
VAKANTIEBOEK (or something like that -- sorry, Harry, you know how
bad my Dutch is, let alone my Dutch from memory!). Those are mostly
Egmont stories anyway, with a smaller number of Oberon and S-coded
stuff, so if the wolf and rabbit tales you read had D-codes, it's
just due to the general makeup of the books.
Is Gladstone interested in the minor characters? Yes, when
WDC&S eventually reaches some giant-sized issues again. John Clark
is beginning to do some preliminary work on WDC&S 600 (a giant to
appear this autumn), and next year there will be more giant-sized
WDC&S issues. Right now, the minor characters (aside from Chip 'n'
Dale, who seem to regularly appear in 1-pagers) seem to have been
sacrificed so that Gottfredson can appear somewhere. I love
Gottfredson, but it's sure a pyrrhic victory. I have a special
fondness for Gil Turner's late-1940s wolf stories.
You say that Egmont wants fewer Ducks these days? Au
contraire. Egmont's management (the guys OVER Byron) just laid down
the law that they'd be doing many fewer MM stories in 1995 than last
year, and replacing them with Ducks. Byron doesn't know why this is,
particularly because some countries (like Britain) want at least one
Mickey story from the main office every week. Hopefully things will
return to normal in 1996, but who knows? If this is happening
because readers have been nonplussed by Egmont's Mickey material to
date and it showed in sales, I have to admit I understand why. But
I'm going to make my few MM stories of '95 as doggoned good as I can,
and we'll see how the audience takes to them.
Regarding Br'er Rabbit, I'm one step ahead of you, Dwight.
I'll be writing at least one of them this year. I wouldn't mind
doing as many as they want.
And as I mentioned, serious fans don't overlook Li'l Bad Wolf
in Holland. The Egmont ones are so-so, but at least the art is good.

HARRY: Glad you appreciate my dialogue job on "Lentils" Part
II. Would you believe that this version of the plot is actually
SIMPLIFIED? In the original, the Beagle Boys not only bought the
lentils back from an agent in Howduyustan, but those were then bought
by another agent in Unsteadystan, then by another agent in
Hoopadoola, another agent in Bumpay, and finally by the Beagles' head
office in Babylon! When I fixed a major logic flaw in the third part
(I've told you about this, Fabio, but we'll let the rest remain
secret for now), it left no reason for this wild goose chase.
Instead of the captions that explained how the Ducks were flying from
one place to the next, Gladstone's readers got an explanation of how
Donald decides to undo Paylesh's ruined reputation with Howduyustan
-- something, as I've said, I'm reasonably certain Disney would have
inserted had I not added it.
Some of you may wonder why I called the country of Babylon by
that name even in modern times. Well, it's now Iraq, and who knows
what Disney would have said had I implied that any Disney character
did business in Saddam Hussein's home turf?

AUGIE: I agree with your letter in D&M 28; for me, "The Crown
of Tasbah" is an excellent Paul Murry story in a period that offered
hardly anything even worth reprinting.
On the other hand, I can't say I agree less with Jonathan
Markoff's letter in that same issue. He preferred "Tasbah" to most
1930s Gottfredson stories and slammed Gottfredson's art, too. Oh,
well. Van Horn, Rosa, and even Barks have gotten their share of such
criticism, too.
Your letter in USA 29 was on the mark, too. I loved the way
Mr. Bunz talked (in Scarpa's "Man from Oola Oola").

I'll be back again. Gotta switch computers (this one's
reserved now).

... And we continue.

OTHER COMMENTS ABOUT THE LENTIL STORY: The depiction of the
natives of Paylesh may make you wonder if the story was censored.
When I talked to John Clark he told me that he'd be reinking them so
that they wore business suits, but nope. All that got changed in the
art was that their lips were made (slightly) smaller in a few panels,
and that a grass skirt one of them wore was exchanged for pants. Oh,
they're white, but they were white in every other color printing I've
seen of this story, too (like the German one).
The color sure is good here. In the past I wasn't so crazy
about Scott Rockwell's color (c. f. "Guardians of the Lost Library"),
but this is basically a fine job. Only one problem -- the soil on
page 19 of Part II should only have flecks of gold in it, while
Rockwell colored it as pure gold.
The story was published in two parts in Italy, the first ending
partway through what's published here as Part II. The last two
panels of the original Part I (and a large teaser caption for the next
part) were deleted: they showed the joyful Beagle Boys racing
from their office with the deed to Scrooge's bin, then Scrooge
gleefully juggling lentil cans above his head as the nervous DD and
HDL ran into the room.
And you'll see just why the lentils successfully oiled the
plane's engine when Part III comes around. Heh, heh, heh.

DD 289 has three strips cut from it. In 7/27/38 Donald smokes
a peace pipe with an Indian squaw and ends up sick. In 7/30/38
Donald asks the boys what they want to take back with them from the
campsite: they collect several small objects, and the squaw (as if
she were just one of the objects -- you get the idea). Finally, on
8/11/38 Donald, bothered by street lights shining through his bedroom
window, destroys them with a sawed-off shotgun. (Thanks to Harry for
showing me these in Dutch at his house.)
The other AT strips in DD 289 strike me as being of an
uncommonly high quality. Just try them. If we're going to get so
much AT in every issue, then this is sure one of the better issues.

Well, that's all for today, folks.

David Gerstein
<9475609 at arran.sms.ed.ac.uk>
"You're the one I have chosa to toss me a Rosa!"

Greetings, earthlings... :-)

DAVID:

(screwball crossover)

Joe Carioca *is* popular in Brazil, has his own title, but
no Brazilian comic fan can assure he is a star greater than Mickey or
Donald. Actually, Joe had some better time in the 70's with sincere,
interesting plots and outstanding art by Cannini (one of the few
recognized Brazilian Disney artists). The "legend" says U.S. WDP
considered those stories were doing a distorted interpretation of Disney
standards (or sort of that) and since then Joe has suffered some
ridiculous changes intended to make him more Disney-ish and less
typically Brazilian (indeed, he's not more than an American character,
but that's another issue).

Yes, Moe is also somehow popular here, also having his
fortnightly title (that *must* be for competition against Chico Bento,
another comic peasant!). So Brazilian studios managed to bring Moe to a
Rio de Janeiro tour, the theme of the late '93 series (you've found that
cover, David) with episodes published alternately in both titles. In
that series they also quitted Joe's classic suit and hat once and for
all (that was allegedly "old-fashioned") and released that terrible
"rapper" outfit. How I miss 70's "Joe in the Foreign Legion"...<G>

_____m__(0/\0)__m_____ NaCl d'PP de Paulo Barreto

1/10/95
4:26 PM
Trading comics

Hi,
I'm new to this list and I am very excited. I thought I was the only one who
liked Uncle Scrooge comics. I would be interested in trading and/or buying
comics. Can you help me. I would also be interested in obtaining Uncle
Scrooge comics from other countries. Can you help me. This is great.
Thanks much. Richard_Mann at gmgate.cc.oberlin.edu

DON:
I haven't said anything about ABBA, but thanks for the information
anyway.
About those Marvel Disney magazines -- I have, for some reason I
haven't found out yet, bought all of these (except for two issues that
the comic shop somehow lost), so I would be glad for the information.

A Dolt in the Deep
------------------
DAVID: I don't think that the idea of counting fish was that dumb. Of
course it is a bit strange, but it is not a bad parody on how the
population (of fish) is measured. It isn't that different from how the
Nowegian whale populations are counted either (I _know_ they are not
fish ;-). They aren't counted by divers, though -- they are observed
from ships.
What I didn't like about the story, if I have to point at anything, is
that they are interested in those fishes only because the aquarium will
pay a lot of money for them. I think they should just be happy to have
those fishes there at all, in the sea.

Knights and Bolts
-----------------
Yes... It's Esteban. I was just a bit confused because Mickey is so big.
Tello's mouse has almost human proportions. It almost seems to me that
he uses the character who walks around in different Disney parks as a
model.

Stempelkussen -> tempelkussen
-----------------------------
HARRY: They used exactly the same gag in the Norwegian text. "Stempelpute"
was made into "tempelpute". I thought this was a way to make a gag out of
a not traslatable Dutch gag, but it was actually the same as the original!
Maybe you use to call stamps "stempelkussen"?

Race to the South Seas
----------------------
I haven't looked very close at it, but I'm quite sure I noted the name
"Kwaak" on the boat, so it's probably Jippes' version. At least I know
I have seen "Kwaak" somewhere :)

DAVID, what's your snail-mail address? I've got that DD&Co #39 (with your
Double Hex story) for you. It's not a used one :-)

Jorgen

(italian coins)

They were all based on a
>series of historic stories. Time-travel or some such.

I remember *that* series (called _Histo'ria e glo'ria da
dinastia Pato_ - I really miss the accents - in the Brazilian version).
The translation was first published in episodes around '74 (I havent't
read that edition; it belongs to my babyhood <G>) and now and then
republished in a single volume since '80. The stand-alone episodes were
pasted together with a flimsy magic coins/trip to the moon plot (the
Brazilian publisher did something similar with U.S. Goofy's History
series). The series as a whole seemed something disappointing to me as
it's Donald-bashing.

But that's not related to the Brazilian coin collection. Our
coins had the characters in their plain vanilla versions, not historical
characterization. And they had been issued in '77-'78, just between the
two _Histo'ria e glo'ria..._ releases.

I'd like to hear from Italians about that subject, too.

_____m__(0/\0)__m_____ []s, Paulo Barreto
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PAULO BARRETO wrote in Disney-comics digest #544:

> The story is "Mickey e a Ilha do ce'u" (no code available)
> published originally in Brazilian _Mickey_ #12 (around mid-50's, I
> guess): Mickey and Goofy follow a flying car and find an island floating
> in the sky, inhabited by an idealistic "mad" scientist. (anybody know
> about that story?)

This is the MM story "Sky Island", of which (at least) two versions
exist:

1. The original newspaper strips (our database code YM 032)
from 1936/37; plot and pencil Gottfredson, text Osborne, inks
Taliaferro (reprinted in the USA in WDC 1/2 and WDC 582/583);

2. A re-make by Bill Wright, "MM and His Sky Adventure", in Mickey
Mouse One Shot (aka Four Color Comic) 214.
(Wasn't this version reprinted by Disney Comics? It's not in
our database. Or am I mixing things up?)

Most likely, the re-make has been reprinted in Brazil.

(I expected David to have answered this... 8-)

--Harry.