Keskustelujen arkisto

As somebody who works in the animation industry and who has friends at
Disney Features, I want to clarify the use of computers on the features.

All the cel painting and what used to be camera work is now all done on
computer. The CAPS system is used to paint and composite the art into
final scenes, and is then output to a digital film recorder.

Computer animation has been used for background elements (The Big Ben
sequence of The Great Mouse Detective, ships in The Little Mermaid,
the poacher's vehicle in Rescuers Down Under, the ballroom in Beauty
and the Beast.

Some computer character animation has been used. In Aladdin, the carpet
and the tiger cave were both done on computer, after the animation was
first done on paper. In The Lion King, the wildebeast stampede was done
on the computer, but the run cycle and flopping manes were based on
drawings.

The vast majority of art for the features is still done on paper. The
character animation is drawn, cleaned up and inbetweened on paper. The
backgrounds are laid out and painted on paper. All this material is
scanned in to the computer, where animation drawings are colored and
the whole shebang is composited.

Disney is financing a feature done entirely on computer called Toy Story
and made by Pixar. That is supposed to be out for Christmas '95. There
are rumors that parts of Fantasia Continued will be done entirely on
computer. However, there is still a big need for people who can work
with pencils at Disney and other animation studios.
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Mark Mayerson Catapult Productions
Internet: mayerson at sidefx.com Toronto, Ontario, Canada
(416) 504-9876

Greetings, earthlings...

In my first days in this mailing list I came across a discussion
about Jose Carioca's popularity in Brazil and the odd Moe/Carioca
series. Well... While browsing my comics collection I found volume 1
of _Anos de ouro do Ze' Carioca_, the unabridged facsimile collection of
the first 13 issues of Joe's title (I-10-1961 thru VI-13-1961).
Although the first Brazilian Disney title dates back to 1950 and cover
art has always been done in Brazil, the first Brazilian-made story was
published in _Ze' Carioca_ premiere issue.

Yes, Joe has been always very popular for decades, but that
didn't prevent Brazilian studios from doing such wacky crossovers in
their first stories (when they weren't so self-assured, I guess). Here
are some examples:

_Ze' Carioca contra o Goleiro Gasta~o_ (ZC479): Joe plays big
league soccer and meets Gladstone Gander as an irritatingly lucky
opponent goalkeeper. Donald and HDL play supporting roles.

_Odisse'ia em Disneyla^ndia_ (ZC481): Joe must bring a Duckburg
citizen to a TV show to win big prize. Appearances by Litte Pigs &
Wolf, Goofy, $crooge, Gladstone, Donald and Daisy. Now plot starts
bringing up some distinction between Joe's world and Disney mainstream
world.

_O Tesouro do Capita~o Gancho_ (ZC485): Captain Hook looks for a
treasure and meets Joe on a lake in (ha, ha, ha) Sa~o Paulo. Peter Pan
and Tinker Bell go to rescue. Now for the lyrics transcription debate:
the smash hit "Banho de lua" *is* transcribed verbatim!

_Papagaios de Opini+o_ (ZC489): Joe opens a successful school
for pet parrots; birds get extra-smart but misbehaved; Joe is sued;
Ellsworth (that's him!!!!!) is his attorney. Some political slant as
pet shop animals make out a "revolution" against evil owner.

Those stories are scarcely reprinted (if at all), but the
quality doesn't quite match up with present high standards. Some years
later Joe dropped that WWII-age suit and bow tie and moved from a
something decent home to a shack amid a community of his own (that's a
probable explanation for Disney's veto to those stories, especially the
ones by Cannini). Then in the late 70's/early 80's Joe drops the straw
hat and moves again, to a plain dull neighborhood. Now in 1992
Disney dresses him like a kiddie rap singer... What next? I'd like to
see Disney "reheat" another off-Duckburg character in 10-year intervals
for a change. :)

_____m__(0/\0)__m_____ Paulo Barreto
mad%hlbbs at ibase.org.br
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* QMPro 1.0 12-3456 * Exigimos a volta dos LPs! E dos trilobitas!

The European weeklies seems to be printing more or less the same stuff. I
picked up yesterdays 'Anders And & Co.' in Kastrup this morning.

The stories seems to be exactly the same as in the last Norwegian DD(?)
weekly. One story deserves to be mentioned again:

DD 'Svinestreger' (Pigs tricks?) - D93554

This definitely looks like the Don Rosa story that was in the Norwegian
weekly. The pigs are called Napoleon, Caesar and Alexander (i.e pointing
to history and not litterature). A great story!

Is there also a lot of 'junk' (non-comic stuff) in the Norwegian weekly?

Regards,
Jacob Sparre Andersen
--
A good movie? - What about three? - Kieslowskis 'White', 'Blue' and 'Red'!
--
URL's: "mailto:sparre at nbi.dk", "http://meyer.fys.ku.dk/~sparre",
"mailto:sparre+ at pitt.edu" & "http://www.pitt.edu/~sparre".
--
"We need a plan to diverge from", Fesser

DON:
Nobody (of the fans writing you) gets nothing? Is that democratic?
You oughta send 'em something! Or hmm, send a FAQ of the letters to Finnish
publisher, so he can print it in Editor's corner or something. Also I do
believe he said it should be there in a week or two.

--

Mike - The Finnish Trekkie

DON:
>you slipped when you said that Marvel distributes Gladstones to the Direct
>market;

Yup. I meant the newsstand market, but I (accidentally) switched the
expressions. In Norway we have only one version. Much simpler :-)

>And what "African" countries does Egmont publish Disneys (or anything
>else) in?

Actually, I have no idea. I've just heard that they do. Maybe they've
just got the rights to do it.

DAVID:
>If we're supposed to not recognize a disguised amnesiac Scrooge on page 8

I think we _are_ supposed to see that it's him. He's just "disguised"
because he doesn't know who he is. The point then is that Scrooge, not
knowing he's Scrooge, is competing with himself.

It might very well have been the script of the "Phantom Bob" story that
saved it. I actually liked it quite well. What the kids being home alone
conserns... there are so many strange things in that story that I didn't
really care about it. If it had been only one detail, like Alberta, or
Minnie standing at the police station crying, I would have cared -- but
everything at once... BTW: I would think that M+F are old enough to find
the food themselves (sandwitches with peanutbutter in front of the TV :).
Goofy looked great in that old detective habit, BTW.

But why must Esteban draw in this stupid style, while Ferioli can draw in
another style?
Apropos stupid style -- quite a long time since I've seen a Tello story now.

And, again, apropos stupid style, or rather just bad:

Me:
>- Donald Duck (D93179, 6 pages). This is quite badly drawn, but it looks
>a bit like Branca.

I think it must be Xavi. Remember that farm story?

JACOB:
>DD 'Svinestreger' (Pigs tricks?) - D93554
>This definitely looks like the Don Rosa story that was in the Norwegian
>weekly. The pigs are called Napoleon, Caesar and Alexander (i.e pointing
>to history and not litterature). A great story!

You could hardly get any bigger compliments than that, David :-)

>Is there also a lot of 'junk' (non-comic stuff) in the Norwegian weekly?

If you mean contests, tests to see if you are good in astronomy, wildlife
etc., stickers, playing cards, the JWW guidebook series etc. -- yes.
But it's not overwhelming, as the advertisements in Marvel's Disney titles.

I'm not so sure I'm the right one to answers PAUL's new questions, but
since noone else have done it yet, I'll give it a try.

PAUL:
>Can I infer from what I read that the current work of Rosa and Van Horn is
>not available in English?

Since they work for Egmont, noone will publish their work before Egmont has.
That means that they will be published in Norwegian, Danish, German, Russian
(I, guess...) etc. before Gladstone gets the chance to do it. The only
Egmont issue published in English is the British, but if I've understood
David right, they rarely seem to publish van Horn or Rosa. Van Horn's last
story seem to be an exception to this (ah, well -- I guess they publish their
shorter stories).
After Egmont is finished with the stories, any company with a Disney
licence, except for Marvel, can publish them. Therefore, Gladstone will
publish them sooner or later (probably later). Rosa, and van Horn are so
popular in the US that all of their stories, except for one banned story,
probably will see print in the US.

>What IS Gladstone doing?

Gladstone is publishing six titles:

Mickey and Donald
Donald Duck
Donald Duck Adventures
Uncle Scrooge
Uncle Scrooge Adventures
Walt Disney's Comics and Stories

These are all published bimonthly (six a year).

In addition they publish the album series "Walt Disney's Comics and stories
in Color" and "Donald Duck's Adventures in Color". These are only Barks
stories. Beautifully colored.
A new series, "Uncle Scrooge's Adventures in Color", will start next year.

I'm not really sure what you americans mean by the word 'reprint'. If you mean
that a story printed by Gladstone is a reprint, even if it's only been
published in Italy before, and never in the US, then Gladstone are doing
almost only reprints.
If you, on the other hand, mean it's a reprint only if it has been
published in the US before, then Gladstone is publishing some "new" stories.

I use the last definition in the following.

Gladstone are reprinting a lot of Barks and Strobl. In addition to these
they are publishing "new" stories by Rosa and van Horn, and some other
Danish, Dutch and Italian stories. The Italian stories are mostly by Romano
Scarpa.
In addition there are a few Al Hubbard one-pagers, some stories drawn by
the Jaime Diaz studio etc.

Gladstone has, in the so-called series II (after they took over from Disney
again), published two new stories (stories made for Gladstone) by Ron
Fernandez and Pat Block, and a couple of one-pagers written and drawn by Vic
Lockman.

>Are the Gladstone/Marvel comics poorly distributed?

Seems so, although it's no problem to get them here in Norway...
(at least not in the bigger cities).

>I haven't seen a new US comic in over a year.

Too bad, since Don Rosa's "Life of $crooge" is currently being published
in Uncle Scrooge. Part seven (of twelve) was recently published.
That might of course be the reason why you haven't seen it. They seem to
be popular.

Jorgen

[Here's a message from Don Rosa that didn't get through: /Per]
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Date: 12 Feb 95 23:34:51 EST
From: Don Rosa <72260.2635 at compuserve.com>

Message-Id: <950213043451_72260.2635_EHB218-3 at CompuServe.COM>

MIKE:
Huh? It's "undemocratic" of me to (probably) not send any personal answer
to any of the hundreds (thousands?) of letters the Finnish editor is forwarding
to me? How democratic was it of him to decide entirely on his own that people
should write me letters and perhaps give them any impression that I *might*
reply to each one? I was never asked about this plan. I have always answered
100% of the mail that has found its way to me on its own... but I feel no
obligation to try to answer a ton of mail dumped on me by another of these
editors that use my work without paying royalties. I mean, I fully intend to
read each letter, but the editor had better not be expecting me to impossibly
find time to answer them all without even asking me about it beforehand.
We'll see what his message says (I *assume* he'll include some message in
with the fanmail).

Harry Fluks writes about the Dutch translation of Uncle Scrooge 291:
> I guess they thought the dutch readers wouldn't know Sousa.
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all together now, members of the disney-comics choir:
"If you knew Sousa /
Like I knew Sousa /
Oh, Oh, Oh what a gal..."

OK. No more puns on popular old songs. We now return you to your
regularly scheduled mailing list.

Wilmer Rivers

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