Gosh -- now I have an impression that Mensa members are absent-minded and
repeat themselves every few minutes in conversations. Those meetings must be
annoying. Those meetings must be annoying.
DAVID:
The cover that I did for WALT DISNEY'S COMICS IN COLOR #8 was the one
with HD&L in the art gallery looking at portraits of DD, U$ & MM. But the cover
you or somebody is now describing, with DD driving MM on a tour of Duckburg, was
one I did for that same series and which Disney REJECTED for unfathomable
reasons -- something like they disliked seeing DD & MM in the same universe
(same with me) and that cover would suggest to readers that it contained a story
with that scene... and it would drive people insane and result in riots and
looting and rape and murder or something. (This was in the period when Disney
was trying to annoy Gladstone so much that they'd give up the license
voluntarilly so Disney could assume it and become "as big as Marvel within a
year" -- remember when that happened?) Anyway, I'll need to ask Gladstone if
they are actually using that cover since I was never paid for it -- it was
returned to me after they apparently took a photostat of it. I guess they forgot
they never bought it.
Author
Topic: 199503
(137 messages)
Don Rosa
Disney-comics digest #596.
Message 1 -
1995-03-01 at 07:30:05
H.W. Fluks
News from Holland
Message 2 -
1995-03-01 at 15:51:30
I talked to dutch editor Jos Beekman today. I asked him a few questions
and he had some interesting answers, mostly about Rosa stuff.
- Don: your Duck family tree will be published in the Dutch DD Weekly,
somewhere this year. That would be one of the rare occasions that Rosa
art can be seen in the Weekly.
The reason that your work is not published in the Weekly ususally is that
they consider it to be for the "real Duck-lovers", just like Van Horn
has his own set of fans. The Weekly is basically meant for (smaller)
children.
- Don: The Dutch editors know nothing of a fax message or any other message
from a Weasel, last year. They have nothing against you, it's just that
they don't mention any Disney creator, except Barks. The mentioning
of Marco Rota in that "Dagobert" album #50, without mentioning you,
was an unintentional mistake.
- Beekman thinks it's very unlikely that Barks visits Europe again.
During Barks' last visit, his house keeper died. He was quite depressed
by that.
- Rosa in Dutch DD Extra: Lo$ 10 in #95-04, "Guardians of the Lost Library"
in #95-05 (the original Egmont version), Lo$ 11 in #95-06
or -07, Lo$ 12 in #95-08 or -09.
- Don: Jos Beekman asked me to tell you that he very much liked your
first story, "Son of the Sun". He originally translated the story,
but then he went on holiday, and they had a temporary hired person
review and (computer)letter the text. Much of the little gag texts
(like the blue etc. diamonds) were lost, but Jos DID translate them
originally!
- They have no idea when David's stories will be printed in Holland.
It seems they don't have a database like we have, so it was no use
for me to tell them the codes.
- They didn't know there were 2 versions of the longer Rosa stories.
They will keep that in mind when they order the Croesus story (and
other stories).
--Harry.
and he had some interesting answers, mostly about Rosa stuff.
- Don: your Duck family tree will be published in the Dutch DD Weekly,
somewhere this year. That would be one of the rare occasions that Rosa
art can be seen in the Weekly.
The reason that your work is not published in the Weekly ususally is that
they consider it to be for the "real Duck-lovers", just like Van Horn
has his own set of fans. The Weekly is basically meant for (smaller)
children.
- Don: The Dutch editors know nothing of a fax message or any other message
from a Weasel, last year. They have nothing against you, it's just that
they don't mention any Disney creator, except Barks. The mentioning
of Marco Rota in that "Dagobert" album #50, without mentioning you,
was an unintentional mistake.
- Beekman thinks it's very unlikely that Barks visits Europe again.
During Barks' last visit, his house keeper died. He was quite depressed
by that.
- Rosa in Dutch DD Extra: Lo$ 10 in #95-04, "Guardians of the Lost Library"
in #95-05 (the original Egmont version), Lo$ 11 in #95-06
or -07, Lo$ 12 in #95-08 or -09.
- Don: Jos Beekman asked me to tell you that he very much liked your
first story, "Son of the Sun". He originally translated the story,
but then he went on holiday, and they had a temporary hired person
review and (computer)letter the text. Much of the little gag texts
(like the blue etc. diamonds) were lost, but Jos DID translate them
originally!
- They have no idea when David's stories will be printed in Holland.
It seems they don't have a database like we have, so it was no use
for me to tell them the codes.
- They didn't know there were 2 versions of the longer Rosa stories.
They will keep that in mind when they order the Croesus story (and
other stories).
--Harry.
Jørgen Andreas Bangor
Various
Message 3 -
1995-03-01 at 16:34:17
Knut about Goofy stories:
>I would actually like to see more of them!
Yes, actually I agree. Most of the stories are really good, and it's
very clear that there is a lot of work put into them.
You do not misunderstand -- the D&M prints them in magazine format,
which means that a lot of the art is simply removed. That makes them
suffer a lot, because, IMNSHO, the art outside of the panels are very
important for the "feeling" of the story.
About twenty (a little more) have been published here. I don't
think that "invisible" story is among them (H. G. Wells, isn't it? I
read that a few years ago).
I remember one gag I liked from the Beethoven story. It's something like
this: Goofy is walking down the street carrying a huge piano. A couple of
neighboors watch him.
- Isn't that Beethoven's son?
- No, that's Steinway's son.
When someone is knocking at a door, it doesn't say "knock, knock", but
"bartok, bartok". When a piano is falling down several floors, it says
"BRAHMS"!
Anders about the engine story:
>This is a 10-pager drawn by Tony Strobl and published in the Swedish weekly
>#36 of 1968. I *guess* the original U.S. publishing was in 1966 or 1967.
Ah! That was one of my favourites when I was a child. It could have
something to do with those three American vintage cars standing behind
the house. My father seemed to find it very interesting spending a lot
of time under their hoods.
Unfortunately I don't have the time to make a review of the Norwegian
weekly now. I'm going to Fredrikstad for a few days. It will come early
next week. Except for a few non-interesting stories, it contains a Barks
ten-pager, and the first part of the sequel to the dinosaur story drawn
by Ferioli.
Jorgen
>I would actually like to see more of them!
Yes, actually I agree. Most of the stories are really good, and it's
very clear that there is a lot of work put into them.
You do not misunderstand -- the D&M prints them in magazine format,
which means that a lot of the art is simply removed. That makes them
suffer a lot, because, IMNSHO, the art outside of the panels are very
important for the "feeling" of the story.
About twenty (a little more) have been published here. I don't
think that "invisible" story is among them (H. G. Wells, isn't it? I
read that a few years ago).
I remember one gag I liked from the Beethoven story. It's something like
this: Goofy is walking down the street carrying a huge piano. A couple of
neighboors watch him.
- Isn't that Beethoven's son?
- No, that's Steinway's son.
When someone is knocking at a door, it doesn't say "knock, knock", but
"bartok, bartok". When a piano is falling down several floors, it says
"BRAHMS"!
Anders about the engine story:
>This is a 10-pager drawn by Tony Strobl and published in the Swedish weekly
>#36 of 1968. I *guess* the original U.S. publishing was in 1966 or 1967.
Ah! That was one of my favourites when I was a child. It could have
something to do with those three American vintage cars standing behind
the house. My father seemed to find it very interesting spending a lot
of time under their hoods.
Unfortunately I don't have the time to make a review of the Norwegian
weekly now. I'm going to Fredrikstad for a few days. It will come early
next week. Except for a few non-interesting stories, it contains a Barks
ten-pager, and the first part of the sequel to the dinosaur story drawn
by Ferioli.
Jorgen
Knut Hunstad
Various
Message 4 -
1995-03-01 at 16:54:56
About those Goofy stories...
>You do not misunderstand -- the D&M prints them in magazine format,
>which means that a lot of the art is simply removed. That makes them
>suffer a lot, because, IMNSHO, the art outside of the panels are very
>important for the "feeling" of the story.
I can't imagine them without, that art more or less _is_ the point with
those stories!
>think that "invisible" story is among them (H. G. Wells, isn't it? I
>read that a few years ago).
That's right! My closest library gives me an ISBN of 0-330-29785-6 for a
version printed in London by Pan Books in 1987. There is also a norwegian
translation available. Tell me if you want a reference, but I'd guess any
decent library has a copy of this story.
> - Isn't that Beethoven's son?
> - No, that's Steinway's son.
In the norwegian version (was that the one you read?) I'm quite sure the
answer is: "No, that's a Steinway & Son". I haven't read it for many years,
though, so I may be wrong...
>When someone is knocking at a door, it doesn't say "knock, knock", but
>"bartok, bartok". When a piano is falling down several floors, it says
>"BRAHMS"!
That's one of the things that makes the Beethoven story one of the best in
the series. It's like that all the way.
Knut
>You do not misunderstand -- the D&M prints them in magazine format,
>which means that a lot of the art is simply removed. That makes them
>suffer a lot, because, IMNSHO, the art outside of the panels are very
>important for the "feeling" of the story.
I can't imagine them without, that art more or less _is_ the point with
those stories!
>think that "invisible" story is among them (H. G. Wells, isn't it? I
>read that a few years ago).
That's right! My closest library gives me an ISBN of 0-330-29785-6 for a
version printed in London by Pan Books in 1987. There is also a norwegian
translation available. Tell me if you want a reference, but I'd guess any
decent library has a copy of this story.
> - Isn't that Beethoven's son?
> - No, that's Steinway's son.
In the norwegian version (was that the one you read?) I'm quite sure the
answer is: "No, that's a Steinway & Son". I haven't read it for many years,
though, so I may be wrong...
>When someone is knocking at a door, it doesn't say "knock, knock", but
>"bartok, bartok". When a piano is falling down several floors, it says
>"BRAHMS"!
That's one of the things that makes the Beethoven story one of the best in
the series. It's like that all the way.
Knut
Don Rosa
Disney-comics digest #597.
Message 5 -
1995-03-02 at 07:45:23
HARRY:
Thanks for your report from the Dutch editors. And that's good to know
that the Weasel FAX did not reach them, if that's true. Had I ever suggested
that some Dutch editor disliked me for mysterious reasons? On the contrary --
you've told me how kind your friend Jos is to me, and I know Thom Roep dislikes
my art which only means he has high standards... or even modest standards. I
think it was some of the Dutch artists that I had reports of being a bit on the
rude side when asked about me, not the editors.
And it's good they now know that there are two versions of those longer
stories of mine... maybe that will be of use to them, maybe not, but at least
they know. I guess they also now know that there is a fully colored version of
the corrected "Lost Library" story available from Egmont as well, right?
FINLANDIA:
I received a call today from Finland, indirectly from the AKU ANKKA
folks, suggesting that I might be invited to attend the Helsinki Comic
Convention in November. We'll see how that progresses. (I forgot to ask about
the dates -- does anyone here know exactly what dates that show covers? I need
to reserve the time.)
Thanks for your report from the Dutch editors. And that's good to know
that the Weasel FAX did not reach them, if that's true. Had I ever suggested
that some Dutch editor disliked me for mysterious reasons? On the contrary --
you've told me how kind your friend Jos is to me, and I know Thom Roep dislikes
my art which only means he has high standards... or even modest standards. I
think it was some of the Dutch artists that I had reports of being a bit on the
rude side when asked about me, not the editors.
And it's good they now know that there are two versions of those longer
stories of mine... maybe that will be of use to them, maybe not, but at least
they know. I guess they also now know that there is a fully colored version of
the corrected "Lost Library" story available from Egmont as well, right?
FINLANDIA:
I received a call today from Finland, indirectly from the AKU ANKKA
folks, suggesting that I might be invited to attend the Helsinki Comic
Convention in November. We'll see how that progresses. (I forgot to ask about
the dates -- does anyone here know exactly what dates that show covers? I need
to reserve the time.)
H.W. Fluks
King $crooge the first
Message 6 -
1995-03-02 at 10:47:53
David:
> But the last few pages to "King Scrooge the First" were
> also largely rewritten and butchered by Whitman when Strobl drew
> them, so remaking the story is also a way to restore Barks'
> conclusion (which was obviously done in Schroder's aborted version,
> as per the four surviving panels).
It is true that the ending of the story was changed, but that is *not*
the half page Schro"der art printed in the CB Library.
To quote Geoffrey Blum in the CBL: "Barks himself seems to have been
the one who decided that the final confrontation between Khan Khan
and the ducks was too rough, for his script contains this marginal note -
"Change to heli[copter] lift gag" ."
This is the Schro"der half page. My guess is that Scho"der did this half
page as a practice (to show the editor what his art would look like), and
that it was not meant to be part of the story.
For Anders, and others who don't have the CBL (and don't have xerox copies,
like I do 8-): here's the original script of the *ending* of the story (the
numbers refer to panels):
5. Swami becomes very wrinkled and aged.
Kid points: "Hey! Look! The king is turning [crossed out: into an]
old, OLD -"
Swami looking toward open doorway.
"My armies are DUST in the desert out there!"
6. Swami going into desert a bent, old man. Swami: "I go gladly to join
them! Everlasting life, GOOD-BY!"
7. Don and S by treasure pile. Don: "Well! The one-time KING exchanged
THIS TREASURE for a handful of gray powder!" S in treasure bathing.
"Yeah, after living forty centuries anybody'd be a NUT!"
8. Kids looking askance: "Maybe - or very, very WISE!"
--Harry.
> But the last few pages to "King Scrooge the First" were
> also largely rewritten and butchered by Whitman when Strobl drew
> them, so remaking the story is also a way to restore Barks'
> conclusion (which was obviously done in Schroder's aborted version,
> as per the four surviving panels).
It is true that the ending of the story was changed, but that is *not*
the half page Schro"der art printed in the CB Library.
To quote Geoffrey Blum in the CBL: "Barks himself seems to have been
the one who decided that the final confrontation between Khan Khan
and the ducks was too rough, for his script contains this marginal note -
"Change to heli[copter] lift gag" ."
This is the Schro"der half page. My guess is that Scho"der did this half
page as a practice (to show the editor what his art would look like), and
that it was not meant to be part of the story.
For Anders, and others who don't have the CBL (and don't have xerox copies,
like I do 8-): here's the original script of the *ending* of the story (the
numbers refer to panels):
5. Swami becomes very wrinkled and aged.
Kid points: "Hey! Look! The king is turning [crossed out: into an]
old, OLD -"
Swami looking toward open doorway.
"My armies are DUST in the desert out there!"
6. Swami going into desert a bent, old man. Swami: "I go gladly to join
them! Everlasting life, GOOD-BY!"
7. Don and S by treasure pile. Don: "Well! The one-time KING exchanged
THIS TREASURE for a handful of gray powder!" S in treasure bathing.
"Yeah, after living forty centuries anybody'd be a NUT!"
8. Kids looking askance: "Maybe - or very, very WISE!"
--Harry.
Paolo Buscaglia
How many...
Message 7 -
1995-03-02 at 11:43:53
Hello folks..
This is my first time as writer..
I need just an info about the work of C. Barks, how may stories
he has written in so long time?
Here in Italy is actualy in printing a magazin where are presented only stories
of Barks and few day ago I got the num. 65 if we consider that in each one
there are more less 5 stories we have more of 300 of them.
How many more...?
Thanks bye
Paolo Buscaglia
PAOLOB at CUC.UNIPA.IT
DOTTO at CUC.UNIPA.IT
This is my first time as writer..
I need just an info about the work of C. Barks, how may stories
he has written in so long time?
Here in Italy is actualy in printing a magazin where are presented only stories
of Barks and few day ago I got the num. 65 if we consider that in each one
there are more less 5 stories we have more of 300 of them.
How many more...?
Thanks bye
Paolo Buscaglia
PAOLOB at CUC.UNIPA.IT
DOTTO at CUC.UNIPA.IT
DAVID.A.GERSTEIN
Disney-comics digest #597.
Message 8 -
1995-03-02 at 13:24:13
DON: Yes, Gladstone is actually using the (never-paid-for)
WDCiC cover. The comic is apparently in the shops now, or so Mark
Semich has told me. I sure look forward to seeing it.
Are there other covers which you drew completely but which
Gladstone or Disney rejected?
Another thing about Gladstone's planned album series of your
stories: please get them to use your covers for "The Duck Who Never
Was" and "From Duckburg to Lillehammer" which didn't show up in their
American printings. And you might also have them use your third
German cover for the LO$ album series, because unlike the others, it
is substantially different from the Gladstone version.
The one thing that I don't like about the CBLDD albums is that
they do not print Barks' original covers to the stories, which in the
case of these long adventures are often excellent. I don't like the
WDC&S covers nearly as much, but I wished they included more of
those, too. We got the Gyro covers and the (Carl Buettner) cover to
"Riddle of the Red Hat" as full-page illustrations. Why can't we
have anything else? Does the cover of album 9 include the cover to
either "Lost in the Andes" or "Voodoo Hoodoo"? I find the former
cover to be my favorite Barks cover.
(IMHO, a very small image of the original comic crammed into
the lower left corner of the album is not a genuine reprint of the
cover.)
GOOFY BEETHOVEN is not, as far as I know, among those which
John Clark is going to be using. He tells me that after the current
one, there will be a break for a while as a few Danish stories, and
that Italian which-way story, are used, and then the next Goofy story
will be "Goofy Ulysses." That sounds more promising than those to
date, but what do I know?
Also, is someone implying that the ones published in DM (and
the earlier GOOFY ADVENTURES) have had elaborate BORDERS trimmed off
the edges of the pages? I saw some albums of these stories at
Fabio's house, and "Goofy Frankenstein" (aside from having about 12
pages cut out completely in Disney Comics' version!) didn't actually
have the art itself altered.
JORGEN: So we have a sequel to "Fossil Hunters" this week.
That gives me a lot to look forward to -- since they ALWAYS print the
week's Mickey offering in Britain (where Mickey is quite clearly more
popular, although that doesn't mean much in the country's very child-
oriented Disney market). At last, another good Mickey story!
IMHO, the worst thing about these dreadful British weeklies
is their letter column. In an issue I saw about two years ago (near
the start of Fleetway's run) they were answering Disney trivia
questions quite accurately there. Now half of the column is loaded
with poems, written by readers, which simply list the characters they
like in a rhyming sing-song. The other half of the column is a huge
illustration of a prize which kids can get by sending in their poems.
I'd feel insulted even if I were still a kid.
There was a Mickey/Goofy one-pager about fishing, done by Noel
Van Horn, in a recent British weekly. Did anyone else see this in
their local Egmont rag? It was very funny and given the way Mickey
talked, I'd guess that it -- like "Hocus Pocus Hypnosis" -- was
probably written by John Lustig.
Next week we get U$A -- and I haven't even seen DD yet due to
my Scots comic shop's slowness. I'm anxious to see how well you drew
my cover idea, Don! ;-) ;-)
David Gerstein
<9475609 at arran.sms.ed.ac.uk>
WDCiC cover. The comic is apparently in the shops now, or so Mark
Semich has told me. I sure look forward to seeing it.
Are there other covers which you drew completely but which
Gladstone or Disney rejected?
Another thing about Gladstone's planned album series of your
stories: please get them to use your covers for "The Duck Who Never
Was" and "From Duckburg to Lillehammer" which didn't show up in their
American printings. And you might also have them use your third
German cover for the LO$ album series, because unlike the others, it
is substantially different from the Gladstone version.
The one thing that I don't like about the CBLDD albums is that
they do not print Barks' original covers to the stories, which in the
case of these long adventures are often excellent. I don't like the
WDC&S covers nearly as much, but I wished they included more of
those, too. We got the Gyro covers and the (Carl Buettner) cover to
"Riddle of the Red Hat" as full-page illustrations. Why can't we
have anything else? Does the cover of album 9 include the cover to
either "Lost in the Andes" or "Voodoo Hoodoo"? I find the former
cover to be my favorite Barks cover.
(IMHO, a very small image of the original comic crammed into
the lower left corner of the album is not a genuine reprint of the
cover.)
GOOFY BEETHOVEN is not, as far as I know, among those which
John Clark is going to be using. He tells me that after the current
one, there will be a break for a while as a few Danish stories, and
that Italian which-way story, are used, and then the next Goofy story
will be "Goofy Ulysses." That sounds more promising than those to
date, but what do I know?
Also, is someone implying that the ones published in DM (and
the earlier GOOFY ADVENTURES) have had elaborate BORDERS trimmed off
the edges of the pages? I saw some albums of these stories at
Fabio's house, and "Goofy Frankenstein" (aside from having about 12
pages cut out completely in Disney Comics' version!) didn't actually
have the art itself altered.
JORGEN: So we have a sequel to "Fossil Hunters" this week.
That gives me a lot to look forward to -- since they ALWAYS print the
week's Mickey offering in Britain (where Mickey is quite clearly more
popular, although that doesn't mean much in the country's very child-
oriented Disney market). At last, another good Mickey story!
IMHO, the worst thing about these dreadful British weeklies
is their letter column. In an issue I saw about two years ago (near
the start of Fleetway's run) they were answering Disney trivia
questions quite accurately there. Now half of the column is loaded
with poems, written by readers, which simply list the characters they
like in a rhyming sing-song. The other half of the column is a huge
illustration of a prize which kids can get by sending in their poems.
I'd feel insulted even if I were still a kid.
There was a Mickey/Goofy one-pager about fishing, done by Noel
Van Horn, in a recent British weekly. Did anyone else see this in
their local Egmont rag? It was very funny and given the way Mickey
talked, I'd guess that it -- like "Hocus Pocus Hypnosis" -- was
probably written by John Lustig.
Next week we get U$A -- and I haven't even seen DD yet due to
my Scots comic shop's slowness. I'm anxious to see how well you drew
my cover idea, Don! ;-) ;-)
David Gerstein
<9475609 at arran.sms.ed.ac.uk>
H.W. Fluks
How many...
Message 9 -
1995-03-02 at 13:49:03
Hello Paolo..
The total amount of PAGES Barks made is about 7000. But this includes
covers and non-Disney stories.
I just grepped the files "barks.story-index" and "barks.cover-index" for
information about amount of stories:
Stories and gags: 691
Covers: 266
(Initally) unpublished stories or parts of stories: 48
Rejected covers, cover sketches, model sheets etc.: 89
A margin should be taken because sometimes a story is listed
twice in the database, e.g. when there are different versions. But the
difference should not be more than 10.
(BTW: Don Rosa produced about 63 stories. Only 628 more to go, Don! 8-)
--Harry.
The total amount of PAGES Barks made is about 7000. But this includes
covers and non-Disney stories.
I just grepped the files "barks.story-index" and "barks.cover-index" for
information about amount of stories:
Stories and gags: 691
Covers: 266
(Initally) unpublished stories or parts of stories: 48
Rejected covers, cover sketches, model sheets etc.: 89
A margin should be taken because sometimes a story is listed
twice in the database, e.g. when there are different versions. But the
difference should not be more than 10.
(BTW: Don Rosa produced about 63 stories. Only 628 more to go, Don! 8-)
--Harry.
H.W. Fluks
News from Holland
Message 10 -
1995-03-02 at 14:31:39
Don:
> Had I ever suggested that some Dutch editor disliked me for mysterious
> reasons?
Maybe I drew that conclusion, because the Dutch artists and editors are
very "close" (the artists apparently disliked your work). That's why I asked
about the fax; maybe they had other reasons to dislike you.
> I guess they also now know that there is a fully colored version of
> the corrected "Lost Library" story available from Egmont as well, right?
They already knew about the corrected version, since I told them a few months
ago. But they already ordered the "original" version at that time.
--Harry.
> Had I ever suggested that some Dutch editor disliked me for mysterious
> reasons?
Maybe I drew that conclusion, because the Dutch artists and editors are
very "close" (the artists apparently disliked your work). That's why I asked
about the fax; maybe they had other reasons to dislike you.
> I guess they also now know that there is a fully colored version of
> the corrected "Lost Library" story available from Egmont as well, right?
They already knew about the corrected version, since I told them a few months
ago. But they already ordered the "original" version at that time.
--Harry.
9475609
Disney-comics digest #597.
Message 11 -
1995-03-02 at 19:43:57
Hi again, folks.
With Jorgen away and the British weekly out two days early this
week, I can at least get a start at telling people what Egmont has on
offer this week.
Did I ever tell all of you that the British run two of the 1980s
Bob Foster-written DD daily gags each issue? One on the inside front
cover, one on the inside back cover. The British color them themselves,
giving the ducks dark-blue eyes and Scrooge a dark-blue jacket. The
more of these I read, the more I like them. The art's pretty bad (Bob
himself has complained about it to me on numerous occasions), but the
gags are all very good.
Mickey Mouse: "Hole-in-the-Wall at Hoodooyadoo" (D94073, probably
16 pages total). Written by Pat McGreal, art by Ferioli.
Mickey's back at Buck Calhoun's ranch, where the dinosaurs that
Professor Wagstaff recreated continue to live. Mysterious "ghosts",
claiming that the ranch is the territory of the Succotash Gang, appear
and begin to frighten away some of the tourists. Mounted on
velociraptors, Mickey and Buck chase the ghosts to find -- Butch
Succotash's legendary hideout, never discovered before, which sure makes
it look like the ghosts must be real. (And that's where we stop.)
Well, this story is very well-written and the art is fantastic.
Only problem is that the plot itself has been used in funny-animal
mystery comics for generations. Also, the dinosaurs don't seem to play
any significant part aside from mounts (although I haven't seen the
second part yet, so I don't really know for sure).
MM doesn't wear his shorts this time out, but as with all the "new
breed" MM stories, Ferioli seems to be trying to model his face after
the version of late 1939.
Anyway, I'm primed to read the next part of the story, even if I
don't know if it's quite Gladstone-quality.
Donald Duck: "Spoil the Rod" (WDC 92, 10 pages).
The story lacks a code of any kind. I guess it must be "Spoil the
Rod" now that I've looked at the art. Why am I sounding so vague?
Well, the British had a field day completely rewriting this to simplify
it as much as possible, so that it's almost hard to tell it's the same
story. The recent "Masters of Melody" only altered a very few phrases
to more British versions, but this one was mutilated. Prof. Pulpheart
Clabberhead becomes Prof. Peabody Claptrap (not a bad name, but face it:
it's been changed!)
It's enjoyable to read a Barks story in such complete British
idiom, but it saddens me that this is the only way British kids will
ever get to see this story.
Beagle Boys: "Good News is Bad News" (D93304, 6 pages)
The Duckburg Nuts for Nice News (a protest group) is raging
against the Times for its distressing articles and constant reporting of
scandal. So the Times decides to humor them by faking articles that
make life look sweet and lovely. Among other things they falsify
stories that the BBs have reformed; hoping to prove this wrong, 176-167
and the others go out to wreak havoc, but all their efforts backfire, so
they appear to live up to the newspaper's stories.
The writer tries hard, but the premise is too unreal. The Times
finds that good news doesn't sell (score one for pessimism) but in
Barks' universe, they'd never fake good news any more than they'd claim
fish was being used for money. This feels like some parallel universe.
The art is OK -- not bad, but nothing special, and the BBs are drawn so
mean-looking that you can't sympathize with their efforts.
Donald Duck: "The Old Lighthouse" (D93440, 1 page)
Art by Xavi. Okay, I guess.
That's all for today, folks. I'll be back tomorrow.
David Gerstein
<9475609 at arran.sms.ed.ac.uk>
With Jorgen away and the British weekly out two days early this
week, I can at least get a start at telling people what Egmont has on
offer this week.
Did I ever tell all of you that the British run two of the 1980s
Bob Foster-written DD daily gags each issue? One on the inside front
cover, one on the inside back cover. The British color them themselves,
giving the ducks dark-blue eyes and Scrooge a dark-blue jacket. The
more of these I read, the more I like them. The art's pretty bad (Bob
himself has complained about it to me on numerous occasions), but the
gags are all very good.
Mickey Mouse: "Hole-in-the-Wall at Hoodooyadoo" (D94073, probably
16 pages total). Written by Pat McGreal, art by Ferioli.
Mickey's back at Buck Calhoun's ranch, where the dinosaurs that
Professor Wagstaff recreated continue to live. Mysterious "ghosts",
claiming that the ranch is the territory of the Succotash Gang, appear
and begin to frighten away some of the tourists. Mounted on
velociraptors, Mickey and Buck chase the ghosts to find -- Butch
Succotash's legendary hideout, never discovered before, which sure makes
it look like the ghosts must be real. (And that's where we stop.)
Well, this story is very well-written and the art is fantastic.
Only problem is that the plot itself has been used in funny-animal
mystery comics for generations. Also, the dinosaurs don't seem to play
any significant part aside from mounts (although I haven't seen the
second part yet, so I don't really know for sure).
MM doesn't wear his shorts this time out, but as with all the "new
breed" MM stories, Ferioli seems to be trying to model his face after
the version of late 1939.
Anyway, I'm primed to read the next part of the story, even if I
don't know if it's quite Gladstone-quality.
Donald Duck: "Spoil the Rod" (WDC 92, 10 pages).
The story lacks a code of any kind. I guess it must be "Spoil the
Rod" now that I've looked at the art. Why am I sounding so vague?
Well, the British had a field day completely rewriting this to simplify
it as much as possible, so that it's almost hard to tell it's the same
story. The recent "Masters of Melody" only altered a very few phrases
to more British versions, but this one was mutilated. Prof. Pulpheart
Clabberhead becomes Prof. Peabody Claptrap (not a bad name, but face it:
it's been changed!)
It's enjoyable to read a Barks story in such complete British
idiom, but it saddens me that this is the only way British kids will
ever get to see this story.
Beagle Boys: "Good News is Bad News" (D93304, 6 pages)
The Duckburg Nuts for Nice News (a protest group) is raging
against the Times for its distressing articles and constant reporting of
scandal. So the Times decides to humor them by faking articles that
make life look sweet and lovely. Among other things they falsify
stories that the BBs have reformed; hoping to prove this wrong, 176-167
and the others go out to wreak havoc, but all their efforts backfire, so
they appear to live up to the newspaper's stories.
The writer tries hard, but the premise is too unreal. The Times
finds that good news doesn't sell (score one for pessimism) but in
Barks' universe, they'd never fake good news any more than they'd claim
fish was being used for money. This feels like some parallel universe.
The art is OK -- not bad, but nothing special, and the BBs are drawn so
mean-looking that you can't sympathize with their efforts.
Donald Duck: "The Old Lighthouse" (D93440, 1 page)
Art by Xavi. Okay, I guess.
That's all for today, folks. I'll be back tomorrow.
David Gerstein
<9475609 at arran.sms.ed.ac.uk>
Per Starback
WWW page
Message 12 -
1995-03-03 at 00:15:38
David wrote about the WWW page on Disney comics:
* The address of the WWW page is
<http://www.update.uu.se/~starback/disney-comics.html>.
* The problem you have with accessing the FTP links when using one
particular browser must be a local problem at your site -- not
something to do with the page as such.
* Yes, maybe it's about time to advertise the page and try to get
links to it from relevant places (about Disney or comics). I didn't
want that first as I would have liked to do more work on them first.
But as it seems I don't get the time for that anyway soon, I might as
well go public with what we have.
* Having more information on how to subscribe from Gladstone sounds
like a good idea. Submissions for the WWW pages are always welcome,
preferably in html code (the stuff you write WWW pages in), but those
who don't know about that are welcome to write in ordinary text as
well.
* As of now, the WWW page is unaccessible though. Sorry about that!
It's just because I forgot to pay my membership fee in the club that
owns the computer it's on. I hope I soon will be back there!
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at minsk.docs.uu.se
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
* The address of the WWW page is
<http://www.update.uu.se/~starback/disney-comics.html>.
* The problem you have with accessing the FTP links when using one
particular browser must be a local problem at your site -- not
something to do with the page as such.
* Yes, maybe it's about time to advertise the page and try to get
links to it from relevant places (about Disney or comics). I didn't
want that first as I would have liked to do more work on them first.
But as it seems I don't get the time for that anyway soon, I might as
well go public with what we have.
* Having more information on how to subscribe from Gladstone sounds
like a good idea. Submissions for the WWW pages are always welcome,
preferably in html code (the stuff you write WWW pages in), but those
who don't know about that are welcome to write in ordinary text as
well.
* As of now, the WWW page is unaccessible though. Sorry about that!
It's just because I forgot to pay my membership fee in the club that
owns the computer it's on. I hope I soon will be back there!
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at minsk.docs.uu.se
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
August DeBlieck
HERO, Don Rosa memories, and boycotts
Message 13 -
1995-03-03 at 03:55:17
Date: 02-Mar-1995 08:53pm EST
From: DeBlieck, August
ADEBLIEC
Dept: STUDENT
Tel No:
TO: Remote INTERNET Address ( _IN%DISNEY-COMICS at MINSK.DOCS.UU.SE )
Subject: HERO, Don Rosa memories, and boycotts
Odd subject, eh?
I apologize for the header on top, but I'm forced to use the other
e-mailing system for reasons beyond my control today...
A couple of things in response to a couple of things from DON ROSA:
1. HERO Illustrated: Since they dropped the price guide, they've
changed the format a little to allow for a lengthy, in-depth look
into one family of titles. So far they've done DC's Legion books,
the Star Trek titles, Marvel's X-Men and related titles, EC, and the
Valiant line. From this you can infer that they stay in one company,
or at least on family of titles (such as in Star Trek's case). What
I'm trying to say here - and taking a tremendous amount of space in
saying - is that I tend to think they are going to focus in on the
Disney titles. It probably won't, as you fear, incorporate all the
'juvenile' titles. I think Archie, for example, would merit its own
spotlight.
Then again, there is a HERO rep on-line. Maybe I'll e-mail him and
ask.
2. Inspired by a couple of other's posts, here now is my story of
"How I became a Don Rosa fanboy": I read "His Majesty, McDuck". It
was printed by Gladstone near the end of its run when I first started
picking up the duck books, led there thanks to DuckTales. (But that's
a dead topic now.) My first recollections are walking into the local
neighborhood comic book store and seeing about three shelves filled with
Gladstones, Harveys, and Archies. I, of course, stuck to the Duck books,
picking up in the first couple of months: Micro-Ducks From Outer Space and
His Majesty McDuck. I was in the superhero-hot-artist fanboy stage back
then (and _still_ had enough taste to enjoy these titles!) and loved
what you refer to as the "nattering detail" (I think that's the phrase)
very much. I still do. And besides, I'm a sucker for sword fights.
Now if we could only get Gladstone to reprint it... You know, they
probably would if they didn't have to keep printing new Rosa stories. ;)
JUST A JOKE, FOLKS! (I don't want to get flamed here.)
EVERYONE: A note to the general readership: I didn't mean for anyone to take
seriously my theoretical boycott of Gladstone. I'm not going to anytime
soon, nor will anyone on this list, I presume. It would, as I pointed
out in the original message even if everyone who quoted it failed to include,
be a terrible idea and lead to nothing good.
I now return you to the regularly scheduled Duck programming...
-Augie De Blieck Jr.
"A hula in a canoe is tricky business." -Donald Duck
From: DeBlieck, August
ADEBLIEC
Dept: STUDENT
Tel No:
TO: Remote INTERNET Address ( _IN%DISNEY-COMICS at MINSK.DOCS.UU.SE )
Subject: HERO, Don Rosa memories, and boycotts
Odd subject, eh?
I apologize for the header on top, but I'm forced to use the other
e-mailing system for reasons beyond my control today...
A couple of things in response to a couple of things from DON ROSA:
1. HERO Illustrated: Since they dropped the price guide, they've
changed the format a little to allow for a lengthy, in-depth look
into one family of titles. So far they've done DC's Legion books,
the Star Trek titles, Marvel's X-Men and related titles, EC, and the
Valiant line. From this you can infer that they stay in one company,
or at least on family of titles (such as in Star Trek's case). What
I'm trying to say here - and taking a tremendous amount of space in
saying - is that I tend to think they are going to focus in on the
Disney titles. It probably won't, as you fear, incorporate all the
'juvenile' titles. I think Archie, for example, would merit its own
spotlight.
Then again, there is a HERO rep on-line. Maybe I'll e-mail him and
ask.
2. Inspired by a couple of other's posts, here now is my story of
"How I became a Don Rosa fanboy": I read "His Majesty, McDuck". It
was printed by Gladstone near the end of its run when I first started
picking up the duck books, led there thanks to DuckTales. (But that's
a dead topic now.) My first recollections are walking into the local
neighborhood comic book store and seeing about three shelves filled with
Gladstones, Harveys, and Archies. I, of course, stuck to the Duck books,
picking up in the first couple of months: Micro-Ducks From Outer Space and
His Majesty McDuck. I was in the superhero-hot-artist fanboy stage back
then (and _still_ had enough taste to enjoy these titles!) and loved
what you refer to as the "nattering detail" (I think that's the phrase)
very much. I still do. And besides, I'm a sucker for sword fights.
Now if we could only get Gladstone to reprint it... You know, they
probably would if they didn't have to keep printing new Rosa stories. ;)
JUST A JOKE, FOLKS! (I don't want to get flamed here.)
EVERYONE: A note to the general readership: I didn't mean for anyone to take
seriously my theoretical boycott of Gladstone. I'm not going to anytime
soon, nor will anyone on this list, I presume. It would, as I pointed
out in the original message even if everyone who quoted it failed to include,
be a terrible idea and lead to nothing good.
I now return you to the regularly scheduled Duck programming...
-Augie De Blieck Jr.
"A hula in a canoe is tricky business." -Donald Duck
Anders Engwall
King $crooge the first
Message 14 -
1995-03-03 at 08:33:59
Harry Fluks:
> For Anders, and others who don't have the CBL (and don't have xerox copies,
> like I do 8-): here's the original script of the *ending* of the story (the
> numbers refer to panels):
>
> 5. Swami becomes very wrinkled and aged.
> Kid points: "Hey! Look! The king is turning [crossed out: into an]
> old, OLD -"
> Swami looking toward open doorway.
> "My armies are DUST in the desert out there!"
> 6. Swami going into desert a bent, old man. Swami: "I go gladly to join
> them! Everlasting life, GOOD-BY!"
> 7. Don and S by treasure pile. Don: "Well! The one-time KING exchanged
> THIS TREASURE for a handful of gray powder!" S in treasure bathing.
> "Yeah, after living forty centuries anybody'd be a NUT!"
> 8. Kids looking askance: "Maybe - or very, very WISE!"
Hm, obviously the last page wasn't that much changed after all! This is
basically what the published version looks like, except for some changes
in the layout (panel 5 above has become #4 and split into two, and panels
7 & 8 above are merged into one, covering the entire last row). The only
semantical (or whatever you want to call it) change is HDL's last remark,
which has changed into (roughly) "And SOME are at a much younger age!"
/Anders
> For Anders, and others who don't have the CBL (and don't have xerox copies,
> like I do 8-): here's the original script of the *ending* of the story (the
> numbers refer to panels):
>
> 5. Swami becomes very wrinkled and aged.
> Kid points: "Hey! Look! The king is turning [crossed out: into an]
> old, OLD -"
> Swami looking toward open doorway.
> "My armies are DUST in the desert out there!"
> 6. Swami going into desert a bent, old man. Swami: "I go gladly to join
> them! Everlasting life, GOOD-BY!"
> 7. Don and S by treasure pile. Don: "Well! The one-time KING exchanged
> THIS TREASURE for a handful of gray powder!" S in treasure bathing.
> "Yeah, after living forty centuries anybody'd be a NUT!"
> 8. Kids looking askance: "Maybe - or very, very WISE!"
Hm, obviously the last page wasn't that much changed after all! This is
basically what the published version looks like, except for some changes
in the layout (panel 5 above has become #4 and split into two, and panels
7 & 8 above are merged into one, covering the entire last row). The only
semantical (or whatever you want to call it) change is HDL's last remark,
which has changed into (roughly) "And SOME are at a much younger age!"
/Anders
Miss Angela MacLeod
Disney Cartoons and Comics
Message 15 -
1995-03-03 at 19:48:49
To whom it may concern;
I would appreciate any relevant information on this program.
Thank you kindly,
Angela MacLeod
I would appreciate any relevant information on this program.
Thank you kindly,
Angela MacLeod