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Neal Kinney
At 07:26 AM 3/29/95 EST, John Kurt Nielsen at danNet 1995/03/29 14:22 wrote:

> Hi
>
> Are there someone who knows what kind of dog Pluto is ?
>
> I have thinks on this question for a long time.
>
> John
>

Dear John,
While I cannot answer your question, I am convinced that you have asked it
at the correct place. If the subscribers to this mailing list do not
know... then you can rest assured that it is not in the Junior Woodchuck
Guidebook. I learned more than I dreamed possible about Beagle Boy
numbering by just bringing up the subject. The breed of the Beagle Boys is
a giveaway of course, but Pluto's petigree is an interesting thought. Why
is he different from Goofy, or for that matter, most of the other "common
folk" residents of Duckburg and the outside world? - Neal
Jørgen Andreas Bangor
JOHN:
>Are there someone who knows what kind of dog Pluto is ?

Pluto isn't exactly dexcribed very nicely by people who don't
know him when he attends competitions of several kinds...

In one one-pager Mickey describes Pluto as a dog without a known
past, but as a dog you really get to love when you know him.

Jorgen
Jørgen Andreas Bangor
Here it is at last.

Donald Duck & Co #11 1995
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- Donald Duck (D93384, 11 pages). Art by Vicar.
Donald "accidentally" eats a box of choclate, which was meant for
an operasinger Scrooge wants to hire. He must then go to Valsburg
to find a new one. Not too easy. Then it shows up that the singer
doesn't want it at all.
Not too bad, but certainly not very original.

- Mickey Mouse (D93040, 7 pages). Noel van Horn?
A couple of bad guys are trying to sell a clock to Mickey. He
doesn't want it, but Goofy buys it to him as a present. The clock
shows up to be a little robot which steals things from Mickey's
house. The bad guys uses Mickey to test the robot. If he's fooled
by it, then everyone will. Well, Mickey isn't.
The art is reallly good, but the story isn't very interesting.

- Chip and Dale (D93030, 4 pages). Art by David (no, not him).
Dale wants to fly, like the flying squirrels (or whatever they are
called). The start of the story looks very much like an old C&D
story, but this time Dale doesn't learn that the idea of flying is
bad. Instead it actually saves Chip from an eagle.
Cute :-)

- Donald Duck (D93242, 5 pages). Art by Xavi.
Daisy is starting a shop were she's selling hats. She wants to
impress one of the rich ladies of the city. If she likes the hats,
then everybody will. A friend of Donald steals the mascot of the
Goosetown football team -- a goat. They hide it in Daisy's shop.
When Daisy and the rich lady arrive, the shop looks a bit
different... It's not a total disaster, though, since the rich
lady shows up to be a real fan of Duckburg's football team.
Not too bad.

- Goofy (D93084, 1 page). Looks like the art in the skiing story.
Goofy is dreaming of big ugly insects.
Not bad. Good art.

- Uncle Scrooge (D91392, 8+ pages). Art by Branca.
Donald and the nephews are, against their will, going with Uncle
Scrooge on an expedition to find a black diamond in a sunken ship.
The diamond is said to bring bad luck. A gang of pirates living at
a nearby island knows about the diamond, and wants it to stay right
where it is.
Quite good, both story and art.

- Scamp (KF 10.15.67, 1 page).

Jorgen
Jørgen Andreas Bangor
Donald Duck & Co #12 1995
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- Donald Duck (H8340, 10 pages). Jan Gulbransson.
Donald is hired as the manager of a hotel owned by Scrooge.
Scrooge tells him that what he earns at several activities
and the food, at the hotel, will be his salary. When he gets
there he finds out that the guests are there to rest, and
they want it to be very silent. Also they want very healthy,
non-expensive food. Donald tries very hard to make money,
and the guests complain. After a while Donald's activities
put the hotel in danger of being buried in an avalanche.
After that, everyone has to be very quiet. The guests are
happy.
A very good story, with very good art. A lot of it reminds
of Carl Bark's avalanche story.

- Mickey Mouse (D93342, 8 pages). The same artist as in D93084.
Mickey and Goofy attend a football camp where a famous player
is supposed to teach them, and a lot of other people, how to
play football. Mickey finds out that he doesn't wants them
to learn it at all. He just wants a bad team which his own
team will have no problems with in a charity match. Then
Mickey trains the bad team, and they win.
Good art, but the story...

- Donald Duck (D93133, two pages). Art by Xavi.
Gladstone tells Donald that luck and greed are to very
different things, which Donald finds out after having found
a wallet full of money. Instead of returning it to the owner,
he goes to buy some expensive clothes. The salesman shows
up to be the wallet's owner.

- Mickey Mouse (KF 7.21.46, 1 page).

- Madam Mim (D93354, 6 pages). Art by Millet.
Mim becomes the leader of a group of girl scouts. She
misunderstand why the girls want to go out in the forest, and
makes a palace for them. Then she removes it, and the girls tell
her that they can do very well without magic. They can't see the
big umbrella, above them, which has stopped the rain.

- Donald Duck (D93440, 1 page). Art by Xavi.
The lighthouse gag.

- Uncle Scrooge (D91392, 8 pages, total 16 pages). Art by Branca.
Second and last part of the black diamond story. The diamond
ends up to be destroyed in a volcano, and Scrooge capture the
treasures of the pirates.
Still quite good. Good art.

- Donald Duck (KF 12.6.40, 1 page). Bob Karp, Al Taliaferro.

Jorgen.
Jørgen Andreas Bangor
Donald Duck & Co #13 1995
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- Donald Duck (D93258, 8 pages). The art looks likeBranca.
An inspector comes to a big house which Scrooge is building.
Scrooge is saving money wherever he can. He doesn't even want
the workers, who includes Donald, to use helmets, because he
doesn't want them to be worn-out. The inspector gets a lot to
do. Because of Donald's clumsiness he ends up at hospital.
Donald gets a new job -- at the hospital.
Not too bad.

- Donald Duck, The April Foolers (W/WDC 127, 10 pages).
Carl Barks.

- Br'er Rabbit (D93338, 4 pages). Art by David.
Br'er Fox disguises himself as a sports trainer. He's supposed
to teach the animals in the forest how to run. Br'er Bear puts
every one of them in a sack as they show up.
ZZZZZZZZZ

- Super Goof (D91310, 6 pages). The art looks like Ferioli.
Some crook makes a copy of O'Hara to fool Super Goof to steal
a valuable item from the museum.
The story is extremely simple, but the art is good.

- Uncle Scrooge (D94066, 8+ pages). Don Rosa.
I guess I better not spoil too much here since you all probably
will see this sooner or later. In the case of Americans -- later.
Anyway -- this is a very promising first part of the story.
The art is, as usual, full of lovely details. In the first page
there is one which I suspect you Americans will never see ;-)
I'll say more about it when I've read the rest of the story.

- Donald Duck (KF 8.19.51, 1 page). Bob Karp, Al Taliaferro.

Jorgen
Per Starback
Well, in Pluto the Racer (1935), as published in MM 235, Horace refers
to Pluto as a "knee-action spaniel" to which Mickey responded that
"he's not a spaniel! He's a hound dog practic'ly pure-blooded!"

I suppose there are other data as well.
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at minsk.docs.uu.se
"I shouldn't allow him in the race! You see these other dogs all
have pedigrees!"
"Oh, but Pluto wouldn't catch it--he had ev'rything when he was a pup!"
Per Starback
As if *we* wouldn't be interested in those V-2 tests as well...
Thanks for the Sky & Telescope reference!
Anyway, last time I knew Dana Gabbard's address was

3010 Wilshire Bl. #362,
Los Angeles CA 900010.
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at minsk.docs.uu.se
"A V-2 coming for this target! Of all the silly things!"
Bob Wright
DAVID: I really got a kick out of your "Catman" story in DDA #32. Wasn't
"Dr. Pulpheart Clabberhead" a psychologist in a MAD magazine Wertham spoof?
Donald burning the boys books brought back painful memories. In 1953 or
'54, at St. Mary's school in Elizabeth, NJ, the nuns had a real comic book
burning. For a week beforehand, we kids were encouraged to bring in our
"bad" comic books for sacrifice to the flames. I did bring a few, but most
were smart enough to save their good (really bad stuff like EC's, crime
books, etc.) comics and keep them hidden till the bonfire was over. To my
credit, I don't remember turning in any Disney stuff. I recall several
hundred destroyed in the flames and there wasn't a dry eye among the kids
in the crowd. BTW, how did the boys end up with so many comics in the last
panel when Donald had fried 'em early in the story?
Don Rosa
C.DOBERMAN:
Again with your kidding. You forget -- Disney actually does have
such bizarre and mean-spirited policies that readers here will think you're
kidding. I'm quite certain that Disney would refuse to allow someone to use
a Disney image in connection with some sort of charity (and I really can't
blame them; these days many "charities" actually have political or
intolerant-religious hidden agendas).
But as to how strict Disney is along these lines -- they will allow
Gladstone to use Donald or Mickey in an ad promoting their comics, but it
must seem to be a scene OUT OF a story or somesuch. Disney will NOT allow
Gladstone to use a picture of Donald pointing AT a DONALD DUCK comic book
because that would indicate that Donald/Disney ENDORSES said comic. This is
not allowable. Donald Duck cannot endorse a DONALD DUCK comic, or any other
Gladstone Donald item. (I suspect that the reasoning might involve Disney's
belief that it would be owed an extra giant FEE for one of its "actors"
endorsing an outside product.)

JORGEN:
Hm? What is it on the first page of "The Universal Solvent" that you
don't think Americans will ever see? The Rocketeer costume in Gyro's "failed
projects" box? (Don't worry about mentioning it -- Europeans have already
seen the issue, and Americans will not see it for so long that they'll
forget anything we say about it.) >
Andrew Krieg 5-5379
In the original cartoon that introduced Pluto, he was a bloodhound tracking
Mickey. The comic strip reference presented by Per which states that he is a
"hound dog" adds credence to this.

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Jørgen Andreas Bangor
DON:
>What is it on the first page of "The Universal Solvent" that you
>don't think Americans will ever see?

On the first page were Gyro is demonstrating the solvent for Scrooge,
he pour it through a stack of solid materials. Each of them has a
tag which tells what material it is. The sample at the bottom of the
stack, which I presume is the final test of the solvent's abilities,
has a tag which says "Disney contracts".

Jorgen
Jørgen Andreas Bangor
The Stamp Act
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DAVE R.: Really good! I like this one. It is an exciting
story from the start to the end, and there is a lot of small
funny episodes there.
The mystery, although seeming impossible to solve, has a
very simple solution. The way Mickey found it, and how he
proved who did it was really clever. It reminds me a bit about
a (Italian, I think) story from the mid-seventies, BTW. In this
story an old relative of Goofy prevents a stamp from being stolen
by putting it on a letter, then putting a bigger stamp over it
and puts it in the mail.
The story in itself is good enough, but what I really like
about this story (and "Tour de Jour") is all the work you put
into the one-shot characters. These persons aren't just a face
and a name, but "real" persons, and that also makes the story
much more interesting, because the solution of the mystery in't
only based on what the characters look like (In a Paul Murry
story, f.ex., you can usually see at once who is the bandit),
and what they do, but how they feel about different things.
I liked the gag at the ending too. It seems right too,
that one of the cats would be very weak. If they were both
strong they couldn't have been together like these two cats,
twin brothers or not.

Jorgen
Minchinela Zarraluqui, Guillermo
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Cdoberman
Don: < readers here will think you're
kidding. I'm quite certain that Disney would refuse to allow someone to use a
Disney image in connection with some sort of charity>

I wasn't kidding about the charity. That actually happened. I wrote for
permission and they did explain their policy on appearing to endorse causes.

And congratulations on the price of Lof$ chapter 1 (not that you'll ever see
a penny of resale residuals). It was the story that actually got me
interested in Uncle Scrooge. I just reread the chapter last week, and the
irony of a comic book's price escalating that way is that readers wouldn't
ever think of selling it.

Wes

"But, Mickey, it's SUICIDE! We'll be KILLED! How'll we ever land without
wheels?" Captain Doberman
Mark Mayerson
I'm glad that Don's Life of $crooge #1 has risen in value, if only because
it takes something like this to get shops to order more Gladstones and
get some of the super-hero addicts to take a look at something different.

HOWEVER, I've never understood back issue pricing. The complete LO$ will
eventually be reprinted in album format by Gladstone, which will be
on better paper and probably printed larger size. As something to own
and read, I'll much prefer the album, but it's "value" will probably
never be as high as the original comic book. Go figure.

I own several volumes of Russ Cochran's EC hardback reprints, and I'd
never think of buying an original EC. They cost a fortune and are
printed on newsprint. Yet, the "value" of old EC's hasn't gone down
since Cochran reprinted them all.

Similarly, I've got some of the Barks hardbacks from Another Rainbow,
and I have no interest in buying old Barks comics when I can read the
stories larger and printed better in the hardcovers.

I guess it's the difference between the value of the art and story to
me vs. the value of the artifact.
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