I hope I haven't missed discussion of this as I step out of the
shadows....
In the Jan.22.96 issue of Bussiness Week here in california, they
have an interesting article regarding Ronald Perelman, owner of 80% of
Marvel Entertainmet Group. In quite a negative artice ("What Evil Lurks in
the Heart of Ron"), they tell of 275 (out of a total of 1700) workers
fired, and say his strategy is, "boost profits by de-emphasizing cartoon
publishing," and focus on, "low-overhead licensing of popular
characters...." Future plans are to open Marvel-theme restaurants in New
York, London and Las Vegas (with a casino!) as well as candy-bar and fast
food cross-promotions.
The artist Herb Trimpe quote, "The suits took over. People began to
make marketing decisions who knew nothing about the product..." would seem
to be a good indication of their stock slip from 34(in 1993) to 13, as well
as their loss of overall maket share. Also, it said that many of their top
writers and artists have left.
The article finishes off by saying that 2 comic-theme movies should
be out by Christmas '96 should boost their bottom line, as no doubt will
the, "weeding out weaker titles," and stopping the "gimmicks" and
"holograms".
Not a good time for the printed comics these days in the USA- it
seems when TV and films come first. I guess Bucky Bug is past his prime.
(Too bad...)
Back to the shadows....
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Business Week and Marvel
Message 1 -
1996-02-01 at 04:47:36
Augie De Blieck Jr
PREVIEWS for April 1996
Message 2 -
1996-02-01 at 05:10:30
Yep, April is going to be a GREAT month for Uncle $crooge fans. My
wallet hates me already...
Donald Duck #297: "The Littlest Chicken Thief" by Barks
Donald Duck and Mickey Mouse #6: "Want to Buy an Island?" by Barks
"The Trojan Horse" by Europe, scripted
by John Cochran
Walt Disney Giant #6: "The Day the Mountain Roared" by Daan Jippes
"The Tommy Mocassin Trail", a new story by Vic Lockman
"The Floating Island" by Barks
"Bad Day for Troop A" a Jippes-done Barks remake
Uncle $crooge Adventures #39: "Tralla La"
[I am so happy to finally get to read this story. I remember the
DuckTales episode from the second season. In fact, was this the one
Ludwig von Drake was in? Besides, I've read Don's sequel, now I can read the
original. =) ] It also has a really neat cover by Don.
Uncle $crooge Adventures in Color: The Life and Times of Scrooge by Don
Rosa #1 [Now how about THAt for a title?] Part 1 of 4 This issue
contains the first three chapters for $10.95
Uncle $crooge Adventures in Color #3 for $8.95
-Augie
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Augie De Blieck Jr. - "An army of ninjas versus a Mortal Kombat player
(Email removed) - who think Emperor Shakhan is an orangutan."
(Email removed) - "Bet on the boy." -Impulse #11 [Mark Waid]
wallet hates me already...
Donald Duck #297: "The Littlest Chicken Thief" by Barks
Donald Duck and Mickey Mouse #6: "Want to Buy an Island?" by Barks
"The Trojan Horse" by Europe, scripted
by John Cochran
Walt Disney Giant #6: "The Day the Mountain Roared" by Daan Jippes
"The Tommy Mocassin Trail", a new story by Vic Lockman
"The Floating Island" by Barks
"Bad Day for Troop A" a Jippes-done Barks remake
Uncle $crooge Adventures #39: "Tralla La"
[I am so happy to finally get to read this story. I remember the
DuckTales episode from the second season. In fact, was this the one
Ludwig von Drake was in? Besides, I've read Don's sequel, now I can read the
original. =) ] It also has a really neat cover by Don.
Uncle $crooge Adventures in Color: The Life and Times of Scrooge by Don
Rosa #1 [Now how about THAt for a title?] Part 1 of 4 This issue
contains the first three chapters for $10.95
Uncle $crooge Adventures in Color #3 for $8.95
-Augie
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(Email removed) - who think Emperor Shakhan is an orangutan."
(Email removed) - "Bet on the boy." -Impulse #11 [Mark Waid]
Tommy Tran
Multidimentional Scrooge.
Message 3 -
1996-02-01 at 06:33:39
> I'm perfectly willing to accept the idea that, seen from one angle,
>Scrooge has that treasure; whereas, seen from another, he failed in the end to
>obtain it. He's a many-faceted, or in this case, many-angled kind of guy.
Which can also explain how the bin exist in 6-dimentions (cubic acre) :).
(Sorry. This is from way back, and I've been catching up.)
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|"We have normality, I repeat, we have normality. Anything you
|can't cope with is therefore your own problem." |
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| -Trillian |
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>Scrooge has that treasure; whereas, seen from another, he failed in the end to
>obtain it. He's a many-faceted, or in this case, many-angled kind of guy.
Which can also explain how the bin exist in 6-dimentions (cubic acre) :).
(Sorry. This is from way back, and I've been catching up.)
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|"I'm perfectly normal, it's everyone else that's wierd." |
|:-) :-0 :-) 8-) ;-) $-) 0-) *-) 2-) E-) |
| |
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|"We have normality, I repeat, we have normality. Anything you
|can't cope with is therefore your own problem." |
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| -Trillian |
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Frank M. DiCapua
Should Scrooge Keep the Treasure
Message 4 -
1996-02-01 at 10:20:13
Hi All,
I know that this thread is a little old, but
i thought I'd give my 2 cents:
One of my very favorite Uncle Scrooge scene(s)
appears in the opening of Don Rosa's Son of the Sun;
this is also his first Scrooge adventure. I really
enjoyed the backgrounds in those scenes, and the
references to all those treasures that Scrooge has
acquired over the years.
Regardless of the outcome of the treasure hunt,
I think that Scrooge would always like to own some trophy
of the event: his first dime, square eggs, golden fleece,
etc. These would be the physical manifestations of his
memories, and fits in with the concept that he built the
bin, and keeps the actual coins, because they provide a
sentimental connection to some event of his career.
While we are all familiar with the concept of
Scrooge sitting amidst all of his money reliving past
events, I'd like to think that there are times when
Scrooge sits in his trophy room doing the same. So, Don,
while I understand your reasons for always having Scrooge
come away without the treasure, I'd hope that you let him
keep a small trophy from time to time.
Frank D.
I know that this thread is a little old, but
i thought I'd give my 2 cents:
One of my very favorite Uncle Scrooge scene(s)
appears in the opening of Don Rosa's Son of the Sun;
this is also his first Scrooge adventure. I really
enjoyed the backgrounds in those scenes, and the
references to all those treasures that Scrooge has
acquired over the years.
Regardless of the outcome of the treasure hunt,
I think that Scrooge would always like to own some trophy
of the event: his first dime, square eggs, golden fleece,
etc. These would be the physical manifestations of his
memories, and fits in with the concept that he built the
bin, and keeps the actual coins, because they provide a
sentimental connection to some event of his career.
While we are all familiar with the concept of
Scrooge sitting amidst all of his money reliving past
events, I'd like to think that there are times when
Scrooge sits in his trophy room doing the same. So, Don,
while I understand your reasons for always having Scrooge
come away without the treasure, I'd hope that you let him
keep a small trophy from time to time.
Frank D.
Mathew_Hall
(No subject)
Message 5 -
1996-02-01 at 16:25:24
I would like to be on yourmailing list
David A Gerstein
Disney comics Digest V96 #25
Message 6 -
1996-02-01 at 17:11:31
DON:
Why was "The Mouse" changed to "The Hero"?
In show business, "The Mouse" is an insulting term used to
refer to the Disney studio. In the comics, Disney lets it be used,
but as an insulting term for Mickey (Pete will say "C'mere, mouse, and
I'll whomp yuh 'til those ears stick outta thuh bottom o' yer head!"),
not as a complimentary one.
The stories in the issue are European. A long Mickey story by
Byron, drawn by Ferioli (and I'm not sure who drew the new Mickey on
the cover, but it looks like an attempt to mimic the Mickey in that
story, which I've seen -- except his head's too big on that cover!),
and then a Donald/Fethry story by Cavazzano.
CHRISTER:
How long is story D91396, which includes Fethry? Egmont used
to do a lot of 1- and 2-pagers with him. Or is this a longer story?
I think Byron became an editor at Egmont late in 1991, and his
changes there began to really take effect in 1992. The code of this
story would indicate that it was done back when Fethry still "existed"
in Egmont's world.
I hope my story is up to your expectations! Only real problem
is that it takes a little long to set up the plot.
David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
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End of dcomics Digest V96 Issue #26
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Why was "The Mouse" changed to "The Hero"?
In show business, "The Mouse" is an insulting term used to
refer to the Disney studio. In the comics, Disney lets it be used,
but as an insulting term for Mickey (Pete will say "C'mere, mouse, and
I'll whomp yuh 'til those ears stick outta thuh bottom o' yer head!"),
not as a complimentary one.
The stories in the issue are European. A long Mickey story by
Byron, drawn by Ferioli (and I'm not sure who drew the new Mickey on
the cover, but it looks like an attempt to mimic the Mickey in that
story, which I've seen -- except his head's too big on that cover!),
and then a Donald/Fethry story by Cavazzano.
CHRISTER:
How long is story D91396, which includes Fethry? Egmont used
to do a lot of 1- and 2-pagers with him. Or is this a longer story?
I think Byron became an editor at Egmont late in 1991, and his
changes there began to really take effect in 1992. The code of this
story would indicate that it was done back when Fethry still "existed"
in Egmont's world.
I hope my story is up to your expectations! Only real problem
is that it takes a little long to set up the plot.
David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
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End of dcomics Digest V96 Issue #26
***********************************
David A Gerstein
Disney comics Digest V96 #23
Message 7 -
1996-02-01 at 17:23:55
JOHN LUSTIG:
Getting a Bucky Bug story approved by Disney isn't hard. Don
Markstein himself actually sold them a handful in 1991!
They never had them drawn because the "Disney implosion" was
murder to their art budget.
But since Noel Van Horn is interested in drawing Bucky, and
already does work for Hamilton...
DON MARKSTEIN
Looks like there's someone to draw your Bucky stories! Just
have Gladstone send Noel the scripts you sold Disney, and their
license covers buying and producing the art!
(I ought to know, as the current WDC&S 602 contains a story I
translated and scripted for Disney, which Disney themselves bought,
and Gladstone was able to use my translation without any problems.)
My favorite of your scripts, BTW, is the one which ends the
first page with that jailed dung-beetle (or whatever he is) growling
right at the reader. I'd say that's the ideal one to start with.
David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
Getting a Bucky Bug story approved by Disney isn't hard. Don
Markstein himself actually sold them a handful in 1991!
They never had them drawn because the "Disney implosion" was
murder to their art budget.
But since Noel Van Horn is interested in drawing Bucky, and
already does work for Hamilton...
DON MARKSTEIN
Looks like there's someone to draw your Bucky stories! Just
have Gladstone send Noel the scripts you sold Disney, and their
license covers buying and producing the art!
(I ought to know, as the current WDC&S 602 contains a story I
translated and scripted for Disney, which Disney themselves bought,
and Gladstone was able to use my translation without any problems.)
My favorite of your scripts, BTW, is the one which ends the
first page with that jailed dung-beetle (or whatever he is) growling
right at the reader. I'd say that's the ideal one to start with.
David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
David A Gerstein
New and upcoming Gladstones
Message 8 -
1996-02-01 at 18:11:10
AUGIE:
In PREVIEWS, Gladstone misidentified "The Trojan Horse"
scripter as John Cochran. As we know now, he's actually the one who
did "The Treasure of Shark Reef," not this story. Don Markstein was
just talking about his work on "The Trojan Horse" rewrite -- it's his.
"Tralla La" (USA 39) is one of the VERY few "classic" Barks US
stories which hasn't been in a regular comic since the early '80s at
least. It's been in a digest and a Disney album (#6, with little or
no distribution that I could tell). Now it has its proper audience,
and we get a new Rosa picture of Tralla La on the cover, too
(BEAUTIFUL, Don, I saw it in the PREVIEWS issue).
DDA #37
ended up with my "His Master's Voice" rewrite of 1991 in the
backup spot. None of the dialogue was changed, although my subversive
reference to a liquor store on a sign was removed from one background
(even though Scrooge can still talk about serving champagne, which is
later shown). As a naive 17-year-old when I did that rewrite, I had
no idea they'd have some kind of problem with booze. Oh, well. This
is one of my FAVORITE Egmont stories, with crackling-good art by
Daniel Branca.
Shelly Block's new story (drawn by Pat Block) which opens the
issue is very funny. Very good for a first story. Shelly makes Daisy
Duck completely likeable, thoughtful, believable and (notably)
fallible, so she comes off as quite rounded here. Melanie will be
glad, I think (what DID you think? I think this is how I've wanted
Daisy to be since I first read a story with her...)
WDC&S #602
is a keeper! Conclusion of "Sword in the Stone" is better
than the first half, with a Walt Kellyesque mumble of "Pfmnz" for
Madam Mim at one point. More of "Blaggard Castle," some one-page MM
and DD gags from MMOS 325 and MICKEY MOUSE MAGAZINE #60 (from 1940),
respectively; a GREAT continuation of Don's story (with some very
oversized word balloons imho) and Van Horn's "Woes Garden," the best
he's done in quite a while, I think. Also Fred Milton's "The Clock
Watcher," which I worked on; good story, although the dialogue (the
third I ever did) would have been better had I done it more recently.
And a beautiful FG model sheet of Clarabelle Cow from 1931, to
accompany "Blaggard Castle" (in which she co-stars...) There are
three 1949 Gil Turner Bad Wolf gags, all of which are great; finally
the title page, which seemed superfluous last issue, this time
reproduces the Barks painting "An Embarrassment of Riches," so I'm not
making a kick this time around.
VERY, VERY good issue. Only real criticism is it seems a bit
rushed, all the text articles have a lot of typos and sadly, so does
Don's story, which is computer-lettered. Ironically, Van Horn appears
to have rushed the hand-lettering on his own story, so it too has some
misteaks ;-) here and there.
Cover logo, BTW, has lost the "And Stories" so it could grow a
little and take up more of the cover. I like it more with the full
title on there. On the inside pages, the logo appears more than a few
times complete, though.
DON:
As you have probably noted by now, it's Don Markstein doing
the Scrooge Gilbert and Sullivan parody, not me. I've described on
this list how I've invoked G&S in my stories, so maybe that's what
left you mixed up?
David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
In PREVIEWS, Gladstone misidentified "The Trojan Horse"
scripter as John Cochran. As we know now, he's actually the one who
did "The Treasure of Shark Reef," not this story. Don Markstein was
just talking about his work on "The Trojan Horse" rewrite -- it's his.
"Tralla La" (USA 39) is one of the VERY few "classic" Barks US
stories which hasn't been in a regular comic since the early '80s at
least. It's been in a digest and a Disney album (#6, with little or
no distribution that I could tell). Now it has its proper audience,
and we get a new Rosa picture of Tralla La on the cover, too
(BEAUTIFUL, Don, I saw it in the PREVIEWS issue).
DDA #37
ended up with my "His Master's Voice" rewrite of 1991 in the
backup spot. None of the dialogue was changed, although my subversive
reference to a liquor store on a sign was removed from one background
(even though Scrooge can still talk about serving champagne, which is
later shown). As a naive 17-year-old when I did that rewrite, I had
no idea they'd have some kind of problem with booze. Oh, well. This
is one of my FAVORITE Egmont stories, with crackling-good art by
Daniel Branca.
Shelly Block's new story (drawn by Pat Block) which opens the
issue is very funny. Very good for a first story. Shelly makes Daisy
Duck completely likeable, thoughtful, believable and (notably)
fallible, so she comes off as quite rounded here. Melanie will be
glad, I think (what DID you think? I think this is how I've wanted
Daisy to be since I first read a story with her...)
WDC&S #602
is a keeper! Conclusion of "Sword in the Stone" is better
than the first half, with a Walt Kellyesque mumble of "Pfmnz" for
Madam Mim at one point. More of "Blaggard Castle," some one-page MM
and DD gags from MMOS 325 and MICKEY MOUSE MAGAZINE #60 (from 1940),
respectively; a GREAT continuation of Don's story (with some very
oversized word balloons imho) and Van Horn's "Woes Garden," the best
he's done in quite a while, I think. Also Fred Milton's "The Clock
Watcher," which I worked on; good story, although the dialogue (the
third I ever did) would have been better had I done it more recently.
And a beautiful FG model sheet of Clarabelle Cow from 1931, to
accompany "Blaggard Castle" (in which she co-stars...) There are
three 1949 Gil Turner Bad Wolf gags, all of which are great; finally
the title page, which seemed superfluous last issue, this time
reproduces the Barks painting "An Embarrassment of Riches," so I'm not
making a kick this time around.
VERY, VERY good issue. Only real criticism is it seems a bit
rushed, all the text articles have a lot of typos and sadly, so does
Don's story, which is computer-lettered. Ironically, Van Horn appears
to have rushed the hand-lettering on his own story, so it too has some
misteaks ;-) here and there.
Cover logo, BTW, has lost the "And Stories" so it could grow a
little and take up more of the cover. I like it more with the full
title on there. On the inside pages, the logo appears more than a few
times complete, though.
DON:
As you have probably noted by now, it's Don Markstein doing
the Scrooge Gilbert and Sullivan parody, not me. I've described on
this list how I've invoked G&S in my stories, so maybe that's what
left you mixed up?
David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
Don Rosa
Disney comics Digest V96 #26
Message 9 -
1996-02-01 at 21:37:00
DONALD:
What one certain miner whose shoes $crooge cleaned are you referring
to? Where was that?
WES:
As always, I point out that I only speak for myself... but there's
never been any question in my mind that $crooge only has and has only ever
had ONE Money Bin. That's sorta the point of the Bin. Yes, Barks showed its
location hopping around town, but he wasn't concerned with such details of
continuity. That was fine -- never bothered me and shouldn't have bothered
anyone else. But I'm not Barks, obviously... and I do things differently.
It's IMPOSSIBLE to view every single detail of every single Barks story as
"canon", and we each probably pick and choose which bits of which stories we
ignore. I ignore a handful of things or events -- such as the "Magic
Hourglass" and so forth. I ignore anytime Barks showed the Bin being
anywhere but on the hill. I also ignore certain stories or parts of stories,
even later ones, like the one where Duckburg is described like it's a city
from the future with a space station and flights leaving for distant planets
like regular airlines. Or that "Interplanetary Postman" story. We each have
to decide when something is contradictory enough or odd enough that it can't
work for us... I s'pose.
I hadn't mentioned in this Bin-location discussion that I completed
that Gyro story a few years back that Barks had begun and abandonned around
1959... and it featured the Bin on a downtown street. They said they
couldn't change a single thing in Barks' original pages, and well they
shouldn't, but I told them that I HAD to change the Bin from being the Bin
to it being a bank vault holding-tank for money headed for the Bin.
Otherwise it would violate what I "knew" to be a "fact" -- that the Money
Bin was up on that there 10-acre hill. So we changed that one itty-bitty
fact and took it from there.
What one certain miner whose shoes $crooge cleaned are you referring
to? Where was that?
WES:
As always, I point out that I only speak for myself... but there's
never been any question in my mind that $crooge only has and has only ever
had ONE Money Bin. That's sorta the point of the Bin. Yes, Barks showed its
location hopping around town, but he wasn't concerned with such details of
continuity. That was fine -- never bothered me and shouldn't have bothered
anyone else. But I'm not Barks, obviously... and I do things differently.
It's IMPOSSIBLE to view every single detail of every single Barks story as
"canon", and we each probably pick and choose which bits of which stories we
ignore. I ignore a handful of things or events -- such as the "Magic
Hourglass" and so forth. I ignore anytime Barks showed the Bin being
anywhere but on the hill. I also ignore certain stories or parts of stories,
even later ones, like the one where Duckburg is described like it's a city
from the future with a space station and flights leaving for distant planets
like regular airlines. Or that "Interplanetary Postman" story. We each have
to decide when something is contradictory enough or odd enough that it can't
work for us... I s'pose.
I hadn't mentioned in this Bin-location discussion that I completed
that Gyro story a few years back that Barks had begun and abandonned around
1959... and it featured the Bin on a downtown street. They said they
couldn't change a single thing in Barks' original pages, and well they
shouldn't, but I told them that I HAD to change the Bin from being the Bin
to it being a bank vault holding-tank for money headed for the Bin.
Otherwise it would violate what I "knew" to be a "fact" -- that the Money
Bin was up on that there 10-acre hill. So we changed that one itty-bitty
fact and took it from there.
Jyrki Vainio
Angouleme
Message 10 -
1996-02-01 at 22:48:24
GOSH! I was in Angouleme during all four days of the festival.
And I had absolutely no idea that Hogarth had passed away until I
read it here! Maybe that's because I'm a high school senior
heading for my matriculation exams in all too short time and
those few extra days of vacation I took in order to attend the
festivals really piled up my school work so that I couldn't
have my ears open for anything else in the past few days. Now I
ofcourse really hope that would have interviewed him... But I'm
really happy that I at least had the chance to meet him in person
- no matter how briefly. And I'm kinda proud that in the panel
discussion that Hogarth attended it was my very question from the
audience upon which he made the link to tell about his new
graphic novel - and the new hero. Unfortunately I can't remember
anymore exactly what he said - had he already completed the novel
or was it just a concept?
Oh well, so much for the off-topics. Curiously enough, when I
flipped through the digests I had missed, I already made a note
to answer to a point which Dwight made, with a quote from Hogarth
from that very same panel discussion:
When talked about those DC executives visiting the art school I
couldn't help remembering what Hogarth had said: When asked about
why he had never done any work for the comic books, he answered:
"Because comic books were a leper society! They came up with the
idea because they didn't have enough money to reprint newspaper
strips. And when the artists wouldn't do any work for the wages
they paid, they dug out youngsters and others who were so lousy
artists that they *would* do it!"
Well, that was off-topic as well, but it *did* have some link to
Disney-comics in the beginning, didn't it?? An interesting point
to the pros around here, huh?
FABIO:
I happened to see you briefly in Angouleme. I noticed your name
tag in the rush and found the name somehow familiar. When i
remembered who you were, you had already disappeared in the
crowd and I never saw you again. Next time, perhaps?
--- Jyrki Vainio ---
And I had absolutely no idea that Hogarth had passed away until I
read it here! Maybe that's because I'm a high school senior
heading for my matriculation exams in all too short time and
those few extra days of vacation I took in order to attend the
festivals really piled up my school work so that I couldn't
have my ears open for anything else in the past few days. Now I
ofcourse really hope that would have interviewed him... But I'm
really happy that I at least had the chance to meet him in person
- no matter how briefly. And I'm kinda proud that in the panel
discussion that Hogarth attended it was my very question from the
audience upon which he made the link to tell about his new
graphic novel - and the new hero. Unfortunately I can't remember
anymore exactly what he said - had he already completed the novel
or was it just a concept?
Oh well, so much for the off-topics. Curiously enough, when I
flipped through the digests I had missed, I already made a note
to answer to a point which Dwight made, with a quote from Hogarth
from that very same panel discussion:
When talked about those DC executives visiting the art school I
couldn't help remembering what Hogarth had said: When asked about
why he had never done any work for the comic books, he answered:
"Because comic books were a leper society! They came up with the
idea because they didn't have enough money to reprint newspaper
strips. And when the artists wouldn't do any work for the wages
they paid, they dug out youngsters and others who were so lousy
artists that they *would* do it!"
Well, that was off-topic as well, but it *did* have some link to
Disney-comics in the beginning, didn't it?? An interesting point
to the pros around here, huh?
FABIO:
I happened to see you briefly in Angouleme. I noticed your name
tag in the rush and found the name somehow familiar. When i
remembered who you were, you had already disappeared in the
crowd and I never saw you again. Next time, perhaps?
--- Jyrki Vainio ---
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Reply to Michael and Donald
Message 11 -
1996-02-01 at 23:29:59
MICHAEL:
> I have a few questions about disney comics:
> Which Four Color DD issues have U$ appearances?
You mean the original Donald Duck FC-issues with Barks-material? In that
case, these are the issues-numbers (which are also used as story-codes):
OS 178 "Christmas on Bear Mountain" (Scrooge's debut)
OS 189 "The Old Castle's Secret"
OS 238 "Voodoo Hoodoo"
OS 263 "Trail of the Unicorn"
OS 282 "The Pixilated Parrot"
OS 291 "The Magic Hourglass"
OS 318 "No Such Varmint" (Scrooge only mentioned in text)
OS 367 "A Christmas for Shacktown"
DD 46 "Secret of Hondorcia"
DD 52 "The Lost Peg Leg Mine" (was originally intended for WDC)
DD 60 "The Titanic Ants"
DD 117 "Pawns of the Loup Garou" (scripted, but not drawn by CB)
One-pagers and other FC-issues (like "Grandma Duck's Farm Friends") with
Uncle Scrooge appearances are not included here.
Don't you have a Barks-index yourself? There is one available on the
ftp-site in case you're interested.
> What is the first comic with U$ on the cover? From what I can tell
> from the Gerber guide, it looks like it's Vacation Parade #2, but
> they don't picture all the WDC&S issues.
I don't think you're referring to a Barks-cover here. I only have a
index of Barks' work (first printings), so I can't check that issue.
Was it published in the summer of 1951? Then you could be right in
saying that it's the first appearance of Scrooge on a cover.
I've checked my index for the cover where Barks first used Uncle Scrooge
and I guess it must be the cover of OS 353 <five photo's>. This issue
was published in 1951 (probably October).
> Thanx, and I look forward to participating in this mailing list!
I look forward to see you do so. Welcome!
DONALD:
> I thought "Horsing Around" was a nice looking story. My only quibble is
> that SOMEBODY had all the Beagles liking prunes, instead of only one.
> (But at least that should confound the continuity freaks.)
Maybe the other Beagles decided to try a prune from that one Beagle and
started to like it, too? ;-)
I guess I was a little too hard with my opinion on Van Horn's art-work
for that story in my previous comment by saying that it didn't look so
good to me. In fact Van Horn drew the story very well (although I don't
like the looking of the Beagle Boys in their disguise as tailors).
I think that what really bothered me (instead of the art itself) was the
structure of the story and the way the pages were divided. When Barks
still drew his stories himself, his pages where always an entirity on
their own (if you know what I mean) and well-structured into the story.
In my opinion "Horsing Around" often fails with that. I also think that
this story misses the critical "re-shaping-till-it's-perfect" which
Barks always used in the stories of his more active years.
But this all doesn't mean that I don't like the story being made. Quite
the opposite: I really like Barks' descision to make on more story,
years after his last one. Years ago we would have never expected that.
Maybe I should just enjoy it, instead of being critical? ;-)
Greetings,
--- Daniel
> I have a few questions about disney comics:
> Which Four Color DD issues have U$ appearances?
You mean the original Donald Duck FC-issues with Barks-material? In that
case, these are the issues-numbers (which are also used as story-codes):
OS 178 "Christmas on Bear Mountain" (Scrooge's debut)
OS 189 "The Old Castle's Secret"
OS 238 "Voodoo Hoodoo"
OS 263 "Trail of the Unicorn"
OS 282 "The Pixilated Parrot"
OS 291 "The Magic Hourglass"
OS 318 "No Such Varmint" (Scrooge only mentioned in text)
OS 367 "A Christmas for Shacktown"
DD 46 "Secret of Hondorcia"
DD 52 "The Lost Peg Leg Mine" (was originally intended for WDC)
DD 60 "The Titanic Ants"
DD 117 "Pawns of the Loup Garou" (scripted, but not drawn by CB)
One-pagers and other FC-issues (like "Grandma Duck's Farm Friends") with
Uncle Scrooge appearances are not included here.
Don't you have a Barks-index yourself? There is one available on the
ftp-site in case you're interested.
> What is the first comic with U$ on the cover? From what I can tell
> from the Gerber guide, it looks like it's Vacation Parade #2, but
> they don't picture all the WDC&S issues.
I don't think you're referring to a Barks-cover here. I only have a
index of Barks' work (first printings), so I can't check that issue.
Was it published in the summer of 1951? Then you could be right in
saying that it's the first appearance of Scrooge on a cover.
I've checked my index for the cover where Barks first used Uncle Scrooge
and I guess it must be the cover of OS 353 <five photo's>. This issue
was published in 1951 (probably October).
> Thanx, and I look forward to participating in this mailing list!
I look forward to see you do so. Welcome!
DONALD:
> I thought "Horsing Around" was a nice looking story. My only quibble is
> that SOMEBODY had all the Beagles liking prunes, instead of only one.
> (But at least that should confound the continuity freaks.)
Maybe the other Beagles decided to try a prune from that one Beagle and
started to like it, too? ;-)
I guess I was a little too hard with my opinion on Van Horn's art-work
for that story in my previous comment by saying that it didn't look so
good to me. In fact Van Horn drew the story very well (although I don't
like the looking of the Beagle Boys in their disguise as tailors).
I think that what really bothered me (instead of the art itself) was the
structure of the story and the way the pages were divided. When Barks
still drew his stories himself, his pages where always an entirity on
their own (if you know what I mean) and well-structured into the story.
In my opinion "Horsing Around" often fails with that. I also think that
this story misses the critical "re-shaping-till-it's-perfect" which
Barks always used in the stories of his more active years.
But this all doesn't mean that I don't like the story being made. Quite
the opposite: I really like Barks' descision to make on more story,
years after his last one. Years ago we would have never expected that.
Maybe I should just enjoy it, instead of being critical? ;-)
Greetings,
--- Daniel
Ville Saari
Bin locations
Message 12 -
1996-02-02 at 06:20:24
Don actually explained the bin location problem in "The Pied
Piper of Duckburg" (an incomplete Barks story completed by Don).
The both bins exist in the same story and $crooge uses the term
"overflow bin", when he speaks about the one in the downtown.
--
Ville Saari EMail: (Email removed)
Tallbergin puistotie 7 B 21 Phone: +358 0 682 2226
00200 Helsinki
FINLAND /dev/null: write failed, file system is full
Piper of Duckburg" (an incomplete Barks story completed by Don).
The both bins exist in the same story and $crooge uses the term
"overflow bin", when he speaks about the one in the downtown.
--
Ville Saari EMail: (Email removed)
Tallbergin puistotie 7 B 21 Phone: +358 0 682 2226
00200 Helsinki
FINLAND /dev/null: write failed, file system is full
Ole R. Nielsen
(No subject)
Message 13 -
1996-02-02 at 12:13:07
HOORAY! Two years on this great m-l, and I'm finally online. So I had to
pick a higher education in order to get there, but I can live with that:-)
While I wait for Per to 'e' me the last months worth of digests, and you wait
for me to read them, I'll entertain our Scandinavian readers with a - brief -
list of Romano Scarpa's early (pre-1965) stories in the pocket books (KA pocket,
Donald Pocket, and Jumbo-bog). If the issues don't match, they are at least
close, and should be easy to identify from page counts and titles, whether you
recognize Scarpa's early style or habla Italiano. I don't ;-/
Danish Pocketbook # / original Topolino # / pages (including continuity pages)
/ author / original title
JB 4-f / TL 174a / 56 / RSc / P e la leggenda dello "scozzese volante"
JB 4-e / TL 195a / 64 / GMa / P e la scuola dei guai
JB 43-i / TL 243a / 40 / RSc / ZP e l'ultimo Balabu
JB 43-j / TL 272a / 33 / RSc / ZP e il ratto di Brigitta
JB 17-g / TL 274a / 59 / RSc / T imperatore della Calidornia
JB 48-g / TL 299b / 32 / RSc / P e la vernice invisibile
JB 16-h / TL 303a / 51 / RSc / T e la fiamma eterna di Kalhoa
JB 13-n / TL 348a / 29 / ABa / P e il capro d'Acapulco
JB 2-d / TL 357a / 44 / ? / ZP e il clavicembalo scrivano
JB 11-d / TL 380a / 68 / RSc / T e l'uomo di Alcatraz
JB 2-h / TL 382a / 32 / RCi / ZP e il petrolio proibito
JB 3-g / TL 386a / 36 / RSc / ZP e le lucciole industriali
JB 65-i / TL 388b / 29 / RCa / ZP e la sfortuna al 99%
JB 6-f / TL 406a / 36 / CCh / P e gli anelli dei dogi
JB 6-h / TL 408a / 36 / RSc / P intelligentone a ondate
JB 16-c / TL 427c / 23 / RCi / ZP sorvegliante a vista
JB 11-e / TL 452b / 30 / RSc / T e il vortice ipnotico
JB 65-j / TL 453a / 27 / RCi / ZP e il guardiani truffaldini
Authors are:
RSc:Scarpa himself GMa:Guido Martina ABa:Abramo Barosso
RCi:Roberto Cimino RCa:Roberto Catalano CCh:Carlo Chendi
...and the Heroes:
P:Paperino (DD) ZP:Zio Paperino (U$) T:Topolino (MM)
I hope this will give you something pleasant to do in the holidays.
Me, I'll be learning UNIX for travelers ("Donde estas le jugador?" - "pwd").
-- Ole 'RoC' Reichstein Ni(e)lsen (Email removed) "Somebody spam me!"
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pick a higher education in order to get there, but I can live with that:-)
While I wait for Per to 'e' me the last months worth of digests, and you wait
for me to read them, I'll entertain our Scandinavian readers with a - brief -
list of Romano Scarpa's early (pre-1965) stories in the pocket books (KA pocket,
Donald Pocket, and Jumbo-bog). If the issues don't match, they are at least
close, and should be easy to identify from page counts and titles, whether you
recognize Scarpa's early style or habla Italiano. I don't ;-/
Danish Pocketbook # / original Topolino # / pages (including continuity pages)
/ author / original title
JB 4-f / TL 174a / 56 / RSc / P e la leggenda dello "scozzese volante"
JB 4-e / TL 195a / 64 / GMa / P e la scuola dei guai
JB 43-i / TL 243a / 40 / RSc / ZP e l'ultimo Balabu
JB 43-j / TL 272a / 33 / RSc / ZP e il ratto di Brigitta
JB 17-g / TL 274a / 59 / RSc / T imperatore della Calidornia
JB 48-g / TL 299b / 32 / RSc / P e la vernice invisibile
JB 16-h / TL 303a / 51 / RSc / T e la fiamma eterna di Kalhoa
JB 13-n / TL 348a / 29 / ABa / P e il capro d'Acapulco
JB 2-d / TL 357a / 44 / ? / ZP e il clavicembalo scrivano
JB 11-d / TL 380a / 68 / RSc / T e l'uomo di Alcatraz
JB 2-h / TL 382a / 32 / RCi / ZP e il petrolio proibito
JB 3-g / TL 386a / 36 / RSc / ZP e le lucciole industriali
JB 65-i / TL 388b / 29 / RCa / ZP e la sfortuna al 99%
JB 6-f / TL 406a / 36 / CCh / P e gli anelli dei dogi
JB 6-h / TL 408a / 36 / RSc / P intelligentone a ondate
JB 16-c / TL 427c / 23 / RCi / ZP sorvegliante a vista
JB 11-e / TL 452b / 30 / RSc / T e il vortice ipnotico
JB 65-j / TL 453a / 27 / RCi / ZP e il guardiani truffaldini
Authors are:
RSc:Scarpa himself GMa:Guido Martina ABa:Abramo Barosso
RCi:Roberto Cimino RCa:Roberto Catalano CCh:Carlo Chendi
...and the Heroes:
P:Paperino (DD) ZP:Zio Paperino (U$) T:Topolino (MM)
I hope this will give you something pleasant to do in the holidays.
Me, I'll be learning UNIX for travelers ("Donde estas le jugador?" - "pwd").
-- Ole 'RoC' Reichstein Ni(e)lsen (Email removed) "Somebody spam me!"
--------------------------------
End of dcomics Digest V96 Issue #27
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Mathew_Hall
(No subject)
Message 14 -
1996-02-02 at 15:12:37
I would like to be on your mailing list.
Marco Barlotti
Rescripting (?!) Scarpa's stories
Message 15 -
1996-02-02 at 19:46:31
I have read from DAVID Gerstein and DONALD Markstein that they made some
relevant changes to the scripts of Scarpa's "Lentils of Babylon" and "The
Man from Oola-Oola". I read these stories many years ago when I was very
young, and I remember well how absurd economics were used in "LoB"; but I
noticed nothing wrong in "TMfOO". It would be VERY nice if DAVID and DONALD
would give a quick account of their changes. PLEEEEEASE?
Marco Barlotti
((Email removed))
"Here's the first billion I've ever made - Down at the bottom of the pile,
where it's been for seventy years!" (Walt Disney's Comics and Stories 130,
7/1951)
relevant changes to the scripts of Scarpa's "Lentils of Babylon" and "The
Man from Oola-Oola". I read these stories many years ago when I was very
young, and I remember well how absurd economics were used in "LoB"; but I
noticed nothing wrong in "TMfOO". It would be VERY nice if DAVID and DONALD
would give a quick account of their changes. PLEEEEEASE?
Marco Barlotti
((Email removed))
"Here's the first billion I've ever made - Down at the bottom of the pile,
where it's been for seventy years!" (Walt Disney's Comics and Stories 130,
7/1951)