Maybe the aspiring new Disney artist should send some samples to:
Byron Erickson
Egmont Publishing Service A/S
11, Vognmagergade
DK-1148 Copenhagen K
Denmark
--- Jyrki Vainio
Author
Topic: 199602
(178 messages)
Jyrki Vainio
How to become Disney artist
Message 61 -
1996-02-09 at 22:00:50
Dave Rawson
Disney comics Digest V96 #30
Message 62 -
1996-02-10 at 12:42:25
DON R:
As much as the rant was on your behalf, it was even more for every creator
out there whose work has ever been ever so gently handled by Procrustes.
And sure, I'll do your complaining (in general, you know, never specific) and
you can do mine. It'll be tag team complaining.
... No man is a failure who is enjoying life
* Evaluation copy of Silver Xpress. Day # 58
--- via Silver Xpress V4.01 [NR]
As much as the rant was on your behalf, it was even more for every creator
out there whose work has ever been ever so gently handled by Procrustes.
And sure, I'll do your complaining (in general, you know, never specific) and
you can do mine. It'll be tag team complaining.
... No man is a failure who is enjoying life
* Evaluation copy of Silver Xpress. Day # 58
--- via Silver Xpress V4.01 [NR]
Moreno Roncucci
The life and Times of Srooge by Don Rosa #1
Message 63 -
1996-02-11 at 04:20:12
At 16.12 01/02/96 +0100, you wrote:
>Subject: PREVIEWS for April 1996
>Uncle $crooge Adventures in Color: The Life and Times of Scrooge by Don
>Rosa #1 [Now how about THAt for a title?] Part 1 of 4 This issue
>contains the first three chapters for $10.95
>
>Uncle $crooge Adventures in Color #3 for $8.95
>
>-Augie
Well, I would like to stop lurking for awhile, to say how little I think of
this kind of edition for this serie (please excuse my spelling: English is
not my native language...)
What I would have liked to have is a (preferibly hardcover) complete
collection of the serie. Not 4 slim albums for $10.95 (and a trading card
for which I have absolutely no use)
I doubt than a 240-pages hardcover books would cost more than 44 dollars.
And even in this case, it would have been a much better edition...
Do somebody know if an edition of this kind is planned, or if I should
content myself with the trading cards?
Another question:
The italian publishing house Comic Art is reprinting many vintage Disney
stories (daily strips and sunday pages, and lately even comics books). Do
you know these editions? What do you think of them?
They are reprinting in hardcover b&w volumes stories by Scarpa, Cavazzano,
Bottaro, Carpi (that I am buying) and other american artist with which I am
not familiar. I have not the money to get all of the volumes with american
material, , so I would like to get some advice from the list about which
artist in the following list are "must buy" and which I could live without...
The non-italian artist reprinted are Paul Murry, Walt Kelly, Ken Hultgren,
Riley Thompson, Bill Wright, Jack Bradbury, Carl Buettner.
/\/\oreno.
>Subject: PREVIEWS for April 1996
>Uncle $crooge Adventures in Color: The Life and Times of Scrooge by Don
>Rosa #1 [Now how about THAt for a title?] Part 1 of 4 This issue
>contains the first three chapters for $10.95
>
>Uncle $crooge Adventures in Color #3 for $8.95
>
>-Augie
Well, I would like to stop lurking for awhile, to say how little I think of
this kind of edition for this serie (please excuse my spelling: English is
not my native language...)
What I would have liked to have is a (preferibly hardcover) complete
collection of the serie. Not 4 slim albums for $10.95 (and a trading card
for which I have absolutely no use)
I doubt than a 240-pages hardcover books would cost more than 44 dollars.
And even in this case, it would have been a much better edition...
Do somebody know if an edition of this kind is planned, or if I should
content myself with the trading cards?
Another question:
The italian publishing house Comic Art is reprinting many vintage Disney
stories (daily strips and sunday pages, and lately even comics books). Do
you know these editions? What do you think of them?
They are reprinting in hardcover b&w volumes stories by Scarpa, Cavazzano,
Bottaro, Carpi (that I am buying) and other american artist with which I am
not familiar. I have not the money to get all of the volumes with american
material, , so I would like to get some advice from the list about which
artist in the following list are "must buy" and which I could live without...
The non-italian artist reprinted are Paul Murry, Walt Kelly, Ken Hultgren,
Riley Thompson, Bill Wright, Jack Bradbury, Carl Buettner.
/\/\oreno.
Mark Mayerson
Italian Hardcovers
Message 64 -
1996-02-11 at 18:25:00
/\/\oreno wrote:
> The italian publishing house Comic Art is reprinting many vintage Disney
> stories (daily strips and sunday pages, and lately even comics books). Do
> you know these editions? What do you think of them?
> They are reprinting in hardcover b&w volumes stories by Scarpa, Cavazzano,
> Bottaro, Carpi (that I am buying) and other american artist with which I am
> not familiar. I have not the money to get all of the volumes with american
> material, , so I would like to get some advice from the list about which
> artist in the following list are "must buy" and which I could live without...
> The non-italian artist reprinted are Paul Murry, Walt Kelly, Ken Hultgren,
> Riley Thompson, Bill Wright, Jack Bradbury, Carl Buettner.
Personally, I'd jump at the Walt Kelly volume, and the Hultgren and
Bradbury volumes are interesting to me. Can you please supply more
information on these books? Price, reproduction quality, Comic Art's
address? Thanks.
___________________________________________________________________
Mark Mayerson Catapult Productions
Internet: (Email removed) Toronto, Ontario, Canada
In Production: Monster By Mistake (416) 504-9876
> The italian publishing house Comic Art is reprinting many vintage Disney
> stories (daily strips and sunday pages, and lately even comics books). Do
> you know these editions? What do you think of them?
> They are reprinting in hardcover b&w volumes stories by Scarpa, Cavazzano,
> Bottaro, Carpi (that I am buying) and other american artist with which I am
> not familiar. I have not the money to get all of the volumes with american
> material, , so I would like to get some advice from the list about which
> artist in the following list are "must buy" and which I could live without...
> The non-italian artist reprinted are Paul Murry, Walt Kelly, Ken Hultgren,
> Riley Thompson, Bill Wright, Jack Bradbury, Carl Buettner.
Personally, I'd jump at the Walt Kelly volume, and the Hultgren and
Bradbury volumes are interesting to me. Can you please supply more
information on these books? Price, reproduction quality, Comic Art's
address? Thanks.
___________________________________________________________________
Mark Mayerson Catapult Productions
Internet: (Email removed) Toronto, Ontario, Canada
In Production: Monster By Mistake (416) 504-9876
TKlein28
Don: Recent comics, etc.
Message 65 -
1996-02-11 at 18:54:12
DON R.;
First, to get back to my mention of Tom Lehrer, if you recall the 1960's
political/satire show "That Was The Week That Was,"
they used a lot of his songs, including the "Vatican Rag" which caused a lot
of controversy at the time. Lehrer was a mathematics (I think) professor at
Harvard who, in his spare time, did a nightclub act of humorous songs,
accompanying himself on the piano. There were three albums produced of his
live performances, including "An Evening Wasted With Tom Lehrer", probably
the easiest to find. His songs covered a lot of topics with razor-sharp wit
and amazingly clever lyrics. For instance, he did one putting the names of
all the elements to the tune of Gilbert and Sullivan's "I Am the Very Model
of a Modern Major General". Worth looking for. Or I could send you a tape if
you're interested.
Now, on to Disney topics. Just bought and read U$ 297, and enjoyed
OD&D&D. Did you make up the symbols on the candle, or do they have some real
meaning? I always wonder about things like that. My only caveat to the story
is that, if someone read it before the first chapter of LO$, it might lessen
the impact of that story.
Also just read and enjoyed the second chapter of "Treasury of Croesus"
in WDC$S 602. I'm not sure how you could explain the way the columns went
down in order like dominoes, but it made for some great visual gags. I'm
looking forward to the next chapter.
Todd
First, to get back to my mention of Tom Lehrer, if you recall the 1960's
political/satire show "That Was The Week That Was,"
they used a lot of his songs, including the "Vatican Rag" which caused a lot
of controversy at the time. Lehrer was a mathematics (I think) professor at
Harvard who, in his spare time, did a nightclub act of humorous songs,
accompanying himself on the piano. There were three albums produced of his
live performances, including "An Evening Wasted With Tom Lehrer", probably
the easiest to find. His songs covered a lot of topics with razor-sharp wit
and amazingly clever lyrics. For instance, he did one putting the names of
all the elements to the tune of Gilbert and Sullivan's "I Am the Very Model
of a Modern Major General". Worth looking for. Or I could send you a tape if
you're interested.
Now, on to Disney topics. Just bought and read U$ 297, and enjoyed
OD&D&D. Did you make up the symbols on the candle, or do they have some real
meaning? I always wonder about things like that. My only caveat to the story
is that, if someone read it before the first chapter of LO$, it might lessen
the impact of that story.
Also just read and enjoyed the second chapter of "Treasury of Croesus"
in WDC$S 602. I'm not sure how you could explain the way the columns went
down in order like dominoes, but it made for some great visual gags. I'm
looking forward to the next chapter.
Todd
Mike Pohjola
Disney comics Digest V96 #31
Message 66 -
1996-02-11 at 19:40:27
ALL:
I'll be two weeks in Africa at the end of February, so I won't be
replying to any mail. I'll leave on Tuesday, so I probably won't see any
Digests after the one this appears in.
--
Mike - The Finnish Trekkie
I'll be two weeks in Africa at the end of February, so I won't be
replying to any mail. I'll leave on Tuesday, so I probably won't see any
Digests after the one this appears in.
--
Mike - The Finnish Trekkie
Geir J. Netland
Life and Times...
Message 67 -
1996-02-11 at 19:58:59
Donaldists:
I wonder if "The Life and Times" albums will be printed
in exact the same way as in the Uncle Scrooge magazines....
I mean, in part 3, some BAD cencoring was done. The guns
who were pointing at Scrooge were IMHO deleted in a terrible
way. Do anybody know what will be done about this??
Greetings!!!!!!
---------------
Geir J. Netland
---------------
------------------------------------
| So, you're *scared*, eh? Well |
| these *roosters* aren't chicken! |
| Er...um...Sure they're *chicken* |
| but not *chicken* chickens! |
------------------------------------
http://www.misjonshs.no:80/~geinet
I wonder if "The Life and Times" albums will be printed
in exact the same way as in the Uncle Scrooge magazines....
I mean, in part 3, some BAD cencoring was done. The guns
who were pointing at Scrooge were IMHO deleted in a terrible
way. Do anybody know what will be done about this??
Greetings!!!!!!
---------------
Geir J. Netland
---------------
------------------------------------
| So, you're *scared*, eh? Well |
| these *roosters* aren't chicken! |
| Er...um...Sure they're *chicken* |
| but not *chicken* chickens! |
------------------------------------
http://www.misjonshs.no:80/~geinet
Christer Hanssen
Double-Dealt Deal
Message 68 -
1996-02-12 at 03:34:18
David G.:
"Actually, I felt that had I been a more
experienced writer, I'd have explained my (fairly complicated) plot a
little more briskly. Reading the story now, I think it took just a
tad bit long to get going."
Well, yes, maybe. But if you are used to the ordinary Egmont stories then I
don't find it too hard. Perhaps I don't get critical enough when the stories
often are very little complicated. I really hope they print more of your
stuff later on and maybe less of the not so good Mickey stories they run. Is
Gladstone going to print it?
~Christer
--------------------------------
End of dcomics Digest V96 Issue #32
***********************************
"Actually, I felt that had I been a more
experienced writer, I'd have explained my (fairly complicated) plot a
little more briskly. Reading the story now, I think it took just a
tad bit long to get going."
Well, yes, maybe. But if you are used to the ordinary Egmont stories then I
don't find it too hard. Perhaps I don't get critical enough when the stories
often are very little complicated. I really hope they print more of your
stuff later on and maybe less of the not so good Mickey stories they run. Is
Gladstone going to print it?
~Christer
--------------------------------
End of dcomics Digest V96 Issue #32
***********************************
Don Rosa
Disney comics Digest V96 #31
Message 69 -
1996-02-12 at 07:13:00
DANIEL V.E.:
The "Pied Piper" story? In a nutshell:
Bruce Hamilton sent me copies of 3 pencil-pages of a never-completed
Gyro story from (as I later determined) the first Gyro FOUR COLOR from 1959.
He wanted me to ink tracings of those pages then invent a plot so that I
could complete the story. Hamilton said that Barks had begun the story with
an ending in mind, but decided after three pages that he didn't want to draw
scenes with thousands of swarming rats. I think I looked at the FOUR COLOR
issue and decided the story was originally meant to be 8 pages. Then I wrote
to Barks to see if he had any memory of how the story was supposed to end,
and he replied that he didn't.
So, I just thought of a plot that would complete the story at 8
pages and involve hoardes of rats. The only other detail that I recall was
that I later read an old interview where Barks mentions that the story was
to also involve crowds of children.
I wrote a plot. But as it turned out, I never got around to doing
the story for Hamilton/Gladstone since soon thereafter Disney told him to
longer return my art, and I was forced to quit. But I later did the story
for Oberon in Holland... even though when they printed it, they gave no
explanation to the story's history. Of course, Gladstone later was able to
use the story after that, the same way they now use my Egmont stuff.
It was just a cute lil' idea Hamilton had. And it's a unique sort of
team-up, apparently the only one I'll ever have with Barks. But I wonder if
any other comic story was ever completed 30 years after it was begun?
MELANIE TSAI:
I just wish I knew how to appropriately thank you for the message
you sent our Mailing List. I believe that someday there will be some sort of
legislation for cyberspace which will express such gratitude in the form of
stiff fines.
The "Pied Piper" story? In a nutshell:
Bruce Hamilton sent me copies of 3 pencil-pages of a never-completed
Gyro story from (as I later determined) the first Gyro FOUR COLOR from 1959.
He wanted me to ink tracings of those pages then invent a plot so that I
could complete the story. Hamilton said that Barks had begun the story with
an ending in mind, but decided after three pages that he didn't want to draw
scenes with thousands of swarming rats. I think I looked at the FOUR COLOR
issue and decided the story was originally meant to be 8 pages. Then I wrote
to Barks to see if he had any memory of how the story was supposed to end,
and he replied that he didn't.
So, I just thought of a plot that would complete the story at 8
pages and involve hoardes of rats. The only other detail that I recall was
that I later read an old interview where Barks mentions that the story was
to also involve crowds of children.
I wrote a plot. But as it turned out, I never got around to doing
the story for Hamilton/Gladstone since soon thereafter Disney told him to
longer return my art, and I was forced to quit. But I later did the story
for Oberon in Holland... even though when they printed it, they gave no
explanation to the story's history. Of course, Gladstone later was able to
use the story after that, the same way they now use my Egmont stuff.
It was just a cute lil' idea Hamilton had. And it's a unique sort of
team-up, apparently the only one I'll ever have with Barks. But I wonder if
any other comic story was ever completed 30 years after it was begun?
MELANIE TSAI:
I just wish I knew how to appropriately thank you for the message
you sent our Mailing List. I believe that someday there will be some sort of
legislation for cyberspace which will express such gratitude in the form of
stiff fines.
Don Rosa
Disney comics Digest V96 #32
Message 70 -
1996-02-12 at 07:48:00
MORENO & GIER:
I've already seen some griping in cyberspace about the form and
price by which Gladstone is reprinting my "Lo$" series. This is not their
choice -- this is all dictated by Disney and the US Post Office. They don't
have a license to publish anything but a "UNCLE $CROOGE ADVENTURES" album
series in a general shape, look and page-count. And the P.O. won't allow
them to mail subscriptions of a limited series. Therefore, the "Lo$" must be
part of the new $crooge album series and look like part of that series in
price, shape and size, and cannot have numbers on the covers. As for the
"Don Rosa trading cards"... I don't have a ready explanation for those. I'll
be very curious to see what THOSE are like myself!
I have gone through the original Gladstone issues and sent them
notes on any mistakes that they might correct. This cannot include major
revisions such as correcting the colors of the Rough Riders' uniforms in
chapter X, since all this stuff is already colored. As for the gun scene in
chapter IV, I'll try to get them to redraw the weird beak they redrew on
$crooge when they removed the gun that was bending his beak... but they
still aren't allowed to replace Jesse James' guns, so he'll still be robbing
the train passengers by rudely waggling his finger at them. Robbery at
finger-point. A heinous crime!
As for those albums, there was a gorgeous ad for them on the back
cover of the new CBG which was also their 25th anniversary issue and thereby
featuring a slick cover which made the ad look that much better. I never
have advance "warning" on anything Gladstone does, so this ad was quite a
shock to me whan I flipped my CBG over. It was my first look at the albums
along with everyone else. (I need to see if it's not too late to change the
year-dates they have showing on the covers in lieu of the issue numbers they
can't use... those years were not correct.) But -- they still don't try to
promote these reprints by mentioning the Eisner Award! That baffles me --
they would never get a better opportunity to make something catch the eye of
non-Disney readers who might just give something "off-the-wall" (by American
standards) a look unless they saw a blurb about an Eisner Award, something
they're familiar with. I know the Gladstone people were not able to attend
the San Diego convention -- gosh, maybe I forgot to tell them we won that
award!!!
Anyway, Gladstone plans to publish the "Lo$" in hardback in 1997, if
all goes well (i.e.: if there's any interest in the albums?).
TODD:
Ah! I can see how I missed knowing who Tom Lehrer is/was. I recall
when TW3 was on TV but I think I was more interested in adventure shows and
sitcoms in those days. And I was never part of the American record or radio
culture, so his records would have slipped past me completely. Now, I'd know
all about him if he'd been a regular on THE AVENGERS or GREEN ACRES.
And how do I explain that my columns in the Temple of Artemis fall
neatly in zigzag rows like carefully planned domino patterns? Easy! Because
that's how I wanted them to fall for the gag to work. Scientifically
speaking, my comics follow the basic laws of humor.
Also... can you explain to me why the computer lettering in
"Croesus" looked so awful, but the computer lettering in "OD&D&D" looked so
nice? Wassa' dif?
I've already seen some griping in cyberspace about the form and
price by which Gladstone is reprinting my "Lo$" series. This is not their
choice -- this is all dictated by Disney and the US Post Office. They don't
have a license to publish anything but a "UNCLE $CROOGE ADVENTURES" album
series in a general shape, look and page-count. And the P.O. won't allow
them to mail subscriptions of a limited series. Therefore, the "Lo$" must be
part of the new $crooge album series and look like part of that series in
price, shape and size, and cannot have numbers on the covers. As for the
"Don Rosa trading cards"... I don't have a ready explanation for those. I'll
be very curious to see what THOSE are like myself!
I have gone through the original Gladstone issues and sent them
notes on any mistakes that they might correct. This cannot include major
revisions such as correcting the colors of the Rough Riders' uniforms in
chapter X, since all this stuff is already colored. As for the gun scene in
chapter IV, I'll try to get them to redraw the weird beak they redrew on
$crooge when they removed the gun that was bending his beak... but they
still aren't allowed to replace Jesse James' guns, so he'll still be robbing
the train passengers by rudely waggling his finger at them. Robbery at
finger-point. A heinous crime!
As for those albums, there was a gorgeous ad for them on the back
cover of the new CBG which was also their 25th anniversary issue and thereby
featuring a slick cover which made the ad look that much better. I never
have advance "warning" on anything Gladstone does, so this ad was quite a
shock to me whan I flipped my CBG over. It was my first look at the albums
along with everyone else. (I need to see if it's not too late to change the
year-dates they have showing on the covers in lieu of the issue numbers they
can't use... those years were not correct.) But -- they still don't try to
promote these reprints by mentioning the Eisner Award! That baffles me --
they would never get a better opportunity to make something catch the eye of
non-Disney readers who might just give something "off-the-wall" (by American
standards) a look unless they saw a blurb about an Eisner Award, something
they're familiar with. I know the Gladstone people were not able to attend
the San Diego convention -- gosh, maybe I forgot to tell them we won that
award!!!
Anyway, Gladstone plans to publish the "Lo$" in hardback in 1997, if
all goes well (i.e.: if there's any interest in the albums?).
TODD:
Ah! I can see how I missed knowing who Tom Lehrer is/was. I recall
when TW3 was on TV but I think I was more interested in adventure shows and
sitcoms in those days. And I was never part of the American record or radio
culture, so his records would have slipped past me completely. Now, I'd know
all about him if he'd been a regular on THE AVENGERS or GREEN ACRES.
And how do I explain that my columns in the Temple of Artemis fall
neatly in zigzag rows like carefully planned domino patterns? Easy! Because
that's how I wanted them to fall for the gag to work. Scientifically
speaking, my comics follow the basic laws of humor.
Also... can you explain to me why the computer lettering in
"Croesus" looked so awful, but the computer lettering in "OD&D&D" looked so
nice? Wassa' dif?
David A Gerstein
Disney comics Digest V96 #32
Message 71 -
1996-02-12 at 07:55:26
CHRISTER:
Thanks for the compliments!
As time passes, more and more of the Mickey stories should
conform to Byron's high standards. You can usually tell one of the
"new breed" when MM wears his red two-button shorts or when the story
is drawn by Noel Van Horn.
But there will always be some Carl Fallberg-style Mickey
stories -- read, interesting adventure, but without a very interesting
Mickey. Many people enjoy these greatly, so I can't argue. It's just
not the version of Mickey I like.
MORENO:
"Which artists in the following list are "must buy" and which
I could live without... The non-italian artist reprinted are Paul
Murry, Walt Kelly, Ken Hultgren, Riley Thompson, Bill Wright, Jack
Bradbury, Carl Buettner..."
I'd go for Kelly, Murry (which includes his magnificent, early
Br'er Rabbit stories), and Buettner. Bill Wright is also pretty good.
These are CBL-style hardbacks in black and white. They are fairly
expensive though, for the amount you get. Still there are plenty of
stories reprinted in these which you can't get anywhere else.
The Hultgren one is very well-drawn, but I don't find the
writing of Hultgren's early-'40s Dell comics very interesting IMHO.
And IMHO, avoid Riley Thompson at any cost! One of the best Disney
animation directors, but his MM comics are my least favorite.
MARK and anyone else who was interested in these volumes,
remember that they aren't in English!
EVERYONE:
I've mentioned my Felix the Cat projects here before, and the
fact that I have a Felix home page. It's not very important for
Disney fans, I guess, but I thought I'd mention a sound file I just
added to the Felix page. It's a (public-domain) 1923 Felix song which
was quite a hit in London, called "Felix Kept On Walking." It's
extremely rare today, and so this may be comic collectors' only chance
to hear it.
http://wso.williams.edu/faculty/psci335/gerstein/felix.html
David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
"Have a chestnut, boys! ... OW!"
Thanks for the compliments!
As time passes, more and more of the Mickey stories should
conform to Byron's high standards. You can usually tell one of the
"new breed" when MM wears his red two-button shorts or when the story
is drawn by Noel Van Horn.
But there will always be some Carl Fallberg-style Mickey
stories -- read, interesting adventure, but without a very interesting
Mickey. Many people enjoy these greatly, so I can't argue. It's just
not the version of Mickey I like.
MORENO:
"Which artists in the following list are "must buy" and which
I could live without... The non-italian artist reprinted are Paul
Murry, Walt Kelly, Ken Hultgren, Riley Thompson, Bill Wright, Jack
Bradbury, Carl Buettner..."
I'd go for Kelly, Murry (which includes his magnificent, early
Br'er Rabbit stories), and Buettner. Bill Wright is also pretty good.
These are CBL-style hardbacks in black and white. They are fairly
expensive though, for the amount you get. Still there are plenty of
stories reprinted in these which you can't get anywhere else.
The Hultgren one is very well-drawn, but I don't find the
writing of Hultgren's early-'40s Dell comics very interesting IMHO.
And IMHO, avoid Riley Thompson at any cost! One of the best Disney
animation directors, but his MM comics are my least favorite.
MARK and anyone else who was interested in these volumes,
remember that they aren't in English!
EVERYONE:
I've mentioned my Felix the Cat projects here before, and the
fact that I have a Felix home page. It's not very important for
Disney fans, I guess, but I thought I'd mention a sound file I just
added to the Felix page. It's a (public-domain) 1923 Felix song which
was quite a hit in London, called "Felix Kept On Walking." It's
extremely rare today, and so this may be comic collectors' only chance
to hear it.
http://wso.williams.edu/faculty/psci335/gerstein/felix.html
David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
"Have a chestnut, boys! ... OW!"
Don Rosa
Disney comics Digest V96 #30
Message 72 -
1996-02-12 at 15:43:00
THANKS ANYWAY, GERMANY:
In case some helpful soul has launched an investigation for me, I
should mention here that I've already found all the data I need on the
German banking family of Welser (which I believe I misspelled on here as
"Wesler"?). Thanks, anyway.
In case some helpful soul has launched an investigation for me, I
should mention here that I've already found all the data I need on the
German banking family of Welser (which I believe I misspelled on here as
"Wesler"?). Thanks, anyway.
Henri Sivonen
Disney comics Digest V96 #32
Message 73 -
1996-02-12 at 16:45:12
Todd,
>My only caveat to the story is that, if someone read it before the first
>>chapter of LO$, it might lessen the impact of that story.
In Finland that is the case :-( , except for those who read Gladstone prints.
Don R,
What would the streets in ODaDaD look like on a map? I mean the crossing
where $crooge got his #1 dime. I spent some time figuring this out once
(does this sound weird?), but I couldn't find a solution.
Geir, Don,
>I mean, in part 3, some BAD cencoring was done. The guns
>who were pointing at Scrooge were IMHO deleted in a terrible
>way.
This has been discussed many times, but anyway.
Why doesn't anyone censor the Finnish AA mag that way? I *don't* mean
anyone should! This gun gag, the tattooed lady, etc. were published in
Finland without anyone redrawing or rewriting them. May be the Europeans
don't get lifelong traumas after seeing a robber pointing at $crooge with a
gun ;-).
--
Henri Sivonen
(Email removed) WWW:
Fax: +358-0-479387 http://www.clinet.fi/~henris
>My only caveat to the story is that, if someone read it before the first
>>chapter of LO$, it might lessen the impact of that story.
In Finland that is the case :-( , except for those who read Gladstone prints.
Don R,
What would the streets in ODaDaD look like on a map? I mean the crossing
where $crooge got his #1 dime. I spent some time figuring this out once
(does this sound weird?), but I couldn't find a solution.
Geir, Don,
>I mean, in part 3, some BAD cencoring was done. The guns
>who were pointing at Scrooge were IMHO deleted in a terrible
>way.
This has been discussed many times, but anyway.
Why doesn't anyone censor the Finnish AA mag that way? I *don't* mean
anyone should! This gun gag, the tattooed lady, etc. were published in
Finland without anyone redrawing or rewriting them. May be the Europeans
don't get lifelong traumas after seeing a robber pointing at $crooge with a
gun ;-).
--
Henri Sivonen
(Email removed) WWW:
Fax: +358-0-479387 http://www.clinet.fi/~henris
RHODE
Italian reprints
Message 74 -
1996-02-12 at 18:02:31
Moreno Roncucci <(Email removed)> says:
so I would like to get some advice from the list about which
artist in the following list are "must buy" and which I could live without...
The non-italian artist reprinted are Paul Murry, Walt Kelly, Ken Hultgren,
Riley Thompson, Bill Wright, Jack Bradbury, Carl Buettner.
and Mark Mayerson recommends Walt Kelly. This was my first thought, but Kelly's
most famous work is Pogo - which was American political satire in the 1950s. He
did do some comic work with furry/funny animals and that would probably
translate fine, but would Pogo? Does Doonesbury translate to anywhere else in
the world? Moreno, I'd see what this is before ordering it. I can't see
satires of Senators Lyndon Johnson and Joseph McCarthy translating, although the
art is fine if that's your primary interest.
RE: Gladstones 4 volume reprint of Don's Life of Scrooge, I couldn't agree more!
Put out a decent size reprint volume instead of milking us loyal customers for
cash. The price of these 4 volumes makes it more expensive than most of DC's
hardcover Archives Editions which had the added expense of taking apart an
original multi-$1000 comic, bleaching it, recoloring it etc...
I really dislike the new WDC&S format for this reason. We all would have bought
Croesus in a $5 squarebound comic-sized album but instead we wait 6 months for
the whole thing and get The Sword in the Stone too.
Mike Rhode
feeling disgruntled this morning.
so I would like to get some advice from the list about which
artist in the following list are "must buy" and which I could live without...
The non-italian artist reprinted are Paul Murry, Walt Kelly, Ken Hultgren,
Riley Thompson, Bill Wright, Jack Bradbury, Carl Buettner.
and Mark Mayerson recommends Walt Kelly. This was my first thought, but Kelly's
most famous work is Pogo - which was American political satire in the 1950s. He
did do some comic work with furry/funny animals and that would probably
translate fine, but would Pogo? Does Doonesbury translate to anywhere else in
the world? Moreno, I'd see what this is before ordering it. I can't see
satires of Senators Lyndon Johnson and Joseph McCarthy translating, although the
art is fine if that's your primary interest.
RE: Gladstones 4 volume reprint of Don's Life of Scrooge, I couldn't agree more!
Put out a decent size reprint volume instead of milking us loyal customers for
cash. The price of these 4 volumes makes it more expensive than most of DC's
hardcover Archives Editions which had the added expense of taking apart an
original multi-$1000 comic, bleaching it, recoloring it etc...
I really dislike the new WDC&S format for this reason. We all would have bought
Croesus in a $5 squarebound comic-sized album but instead we wait 6 months for
the whole thing and get The Sword in the Stone too.
Mike Rhode
feeling disgruntled this morning.
Harry Fluks
This month's comics
Message 75 -
1996-02-12 at 23:33:50
I have only a few things to add to what has already been discussed...
WALT DISNEY'S COMICS #602 is better than #601, in my opinion.
The cover has the clear Greek text "KROESOS", and I've looked it up
in my encyclopedia: Croesus' Greek naam is KROISOS (the first O
being an omega). I've already mentioned this before, but since it is
now in the cover on a prominent place, it has become an "annoying
detail" (annoying, because it's the *details* that are most of the fun in
Rosa stories).
"The Treasury of Croesus" should definitely have been published in one
part. I don't like the story as much as other Rosa stories, and I think
it's because the eposides are 2 months apart.
It will be published in one part in Holland, next week, so I'll be able to
see the difference (and read the final episode sooner).
The articles are very good. Being an index freak, I especially liked the article
about the various Dumbo comics, of course.
The story by Milton is one of his best after he stopped cooperating with
Jippes.
The best thing about "The Sword in the Stone" is that it is so short *and*
that it's the final episode.
The Van Horn story ("The Woes Garden") is very good. Van Horn's
artwork is still improving. But the end gag was weak.
By the way: in Holland we have stickers to put on our mailbox
saying "no unaddressed mail". This saves a lot of unwanted mail in my
mailbox. Do other countries have similar things?
UNCLE SCROOGE #297 has a cover that doesn't fit with the opening
story inside. Don should have made a Lo$#0 cover.
"Of Duck, Dimes and Destinies": the D.U.C.K. on the first panel
is still visible, at least you can recognise it if you *know* what should
be there.
The backup story, "No Dime for Stardom", shows that Branca is very good
at drawing Magica! The facts mentioned may not be "canon" (as David
apologizingly said), but that can be explained: the Hollywood people
want to twist a few facts to make a better movie. They always do...
DONALD DUCK ADVENTURES #37 has a story by the Block family.
I was hoping Pat Block would improve on his drawing style.
Apparently he didn't...
"His Master's Voice" was another good Branca story this month.
Especially selected by David Gerstein. Branca also did quite a few
bad stories, but so far Gladstone only publishes the good ones. I hope
we can discover the writer(s) one day.
The 2-page gag was short enough to not disturb me too much.
ZOZOLALA #85 (no, this is not a Gladstone comic, it's a Dutch
comics fanzine, distributed free in various comic specialty shops)
has an advertisement, saying (translated into bad English):
Donald Duck is looking for
COMIC WRITERS (male/female).
Do you have a good writing pen and can you draw a little?
Do you have a lot of exciting, funny and fantastic ideas?
Do you know the Duckburg inhabitants by hart? Then Donald
Duck wants to have an adventure with you!
Donald Duck asks you: a script in which the Duck or other
Disney characters have a short adventure.
Your script should be as follows: the length is fixed,
4 pages. The main characters can vary from Donald Duck
to Hiawatha. Professional drawings are not required, but
recognisable sketches are a must. And break up your page
into panels!
Send your script to:
Redactie Disney-uitgaven
t.a.v. Frans Hasselaar
Postbus 2900
1000 CX Amsterdam
We don't guarantee that your scenario will be used. It
depends on the quality! Good luck!
[end]
[accompanying the ad are 5 sketches as examples of
script panels. Showing the nephews, Donald, Winnie the Pooh,
Big Bad Wolf, and Hiawatha.]
My translation may seem to look a bit childish
("Donald Duck asks you") but keep in mind that
"Donald Duck" is in Holland a well-known term for the weekly
magazine, not just the character.
--Harry.
WALT DISNEY'S COMICS #602 is better than #601, in my opinion.
The cover has the clear Greek text "KROESOS", and I've looked it up
in my encyclopedia: Croesus' Greek naam is KROISOS (the first O
being an omega). I've already mentioned this before, but since it is
now in the cover on a prominent place, it has become an "annoying
detail" (annoying, because it's the *details* that are most of the fun in
Rosa stories).
"The Treasury of Croesus" should definitely have been published in one
part. I don't like the story as much as other Rosa stories, and I think
it's because the eposides are 2 months apart.
It will be published in one part in Holland, next week, so I'll be able to
see the difference (and read the final episode sooner).
The articles are very good. Being an index freak, I especially liked the article
about the various Dumbo comics, of course.
The story by Milton is one of his best after he stopped cooperating with
Jippes.
The best thing about "The Sword in the Stone" is that it is so short *and*
that it's the final episode.
The Van Horn story ("The Woes Garden") is very good. Van Horn's
artwork is still improving. But the end gag was weak.
By the way: in Holland we have stickers to put on our mailbox
saying "no unaddressed mail". This saves a lot of unwanted mail in my
mailbox. Do other countries have similar things?
UNCLE SCROOGE #297 has a cover that doesn't fit with the opening
story inside. Don should have made a Lo$#0 cover.
"Of Duck, Dimes and Destinies": the D.U.C.K. on the first panel
is still visible, at least you can recognise it if you *know* what should
be there.
The backup story, "No Dime for Stardom", shows that Branca is very good
at drawing Magica! The facts mentioned may not be "canon" (as David
apologizingly said), but that can be explained: the Hollywood people
want to twist a few facts to make a better movie. They always do...
DONALD DUCK ADVENTURES #37 has a story by the Block family.
I was hoping Pat Block would improve on his drawing style.
Apparently he didn't...
"His Master's Voice" was another good Branca story this month.
Especially selected by David Gerstein. Branca also did quite a few
bad stories, but so far Gladstone only publishes the good ones. I hope
we can discover the writer(s) one day.
The 2-page gag was short enough to not disturb me too much.
ZOZOLALA #85 (no, this is not a Gladstone comic, it's a Dutch
comics fanzine, distributed free in various comic specialty shops)
has an advertisement, saying (translated into bad English):
Donald Duck is looking for
COMIC WRITERS (male/female).
Do you have a good writing pen and can you draw a little?
Do you have a lot of exciting, funny and fantastic ideas?
Do you know the Duckburg inhabitants by hart? Then Donald
Duck wants to have an adventure with you!
Donald Duck asks you: a script in which the Duck or other
Disney characters have a short adventure.
Your script should be as follows: the length is fixed,
4 pages. The main characters can vary from Donald Duck
to Hiawatha. Professional drawings are not required, but
recognisable sketches are a must. And break up your page
into panels!
Send your script to:
Redactie Disney-uitgaven
t.a.v. Frans Hasselaar
Postbus 2900
1000 CX Amsterdam
We don't guarantee that your scenario will be used. It
depends on the quality! Good luck!
[end]
[accompanying the ad are 5 sketches as examples of
script panels. Showing the nephews, Donald, Winnie the Pooh,
Big Bad Wolf, and Hiawatha.]
My translation may seem to look a bit childish
("Donald Duck asks you") but keep in mind that
"Donald Duck" is in Holland a well-known term for the weekly
magazine, not just the character.
--Harry.