Don Rosa asked:
> Now seems the time to ask this... Just out of curiosity -- over on
> Compuserve, we see such ill-behaved children as just popped up here
> permanently barred from newsgroups and forums. Do you have that capability
> (until, of course, they reappear with a different address)? It's nice to
> think we never needed it up till now.
Yes, I could do that, but there wouldn't be much point in it unless it
was someone who *repeatedly* was a nuisance to us.
There's something most offenders have in common though, especially the
real threat -- those commercial spammers like "Melanie Tsai" here
recently. The thing in common is that they are not members of the
mailing list.
I have now finally switched the switch that forbids nonmembers to post
to this list, so in the future you will probably get less spam sent
to the list -- at least not until the spammers catch up and circumvent
it in this ongoing war.
There is a drawback though, and that is that the program will think
that some of you are non-members as you post when you post from a
different address than the one you are subscribed to. Those messages
will then go to me, so I will forward them to the list, but they might
be a little delayed. I don't know how common or uncommon this problem
will be. We'll see.
In case anyone is interested in "Melanie Tsai", she probably doesn't
exist. That spam looks like it came from Kevin Jay Lipsitz, a
well-known spammer, and he has used loads of aliases before as
well. More information on him can be found on
http://math-www.uni-paderborn.de/%7Eaxel/BL/#KL950105
on the World Wide Web.
--
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: (Email removed)
Hates spam.
Author
Topic: 199602
(178 messages)
Per Starback
ADMIN: Now only members can post
Message 76 -
1996-02-12 at 23:37:47
Dave Rawson
Lotsa Pasta
Message 77 -
1996-02-13 at 00:39:20
Hello, all!
I finally have a question worthy of your collected, assembled might.
I want to do a story where Donald is a pasta salesman. With lots of <this>
for sale and lots of <that> for sale and <such> and <so on>.
Now I can dig through my cookbooks (pedantic, boring!) or go to the library
and do research (at least gets me out of the house, but still), OR ***pending
Per's approval to use this arena for such a purpose***, I can ask you all for
a list of as many different kinds of pasta as possible AND have some fun. To
be fair to Per, this is slightly off-topic, but it IS going to be used in a
Disney Comic, so I'm hoping that counts as not too far afield.
The pastas have to be dry goods, not stuffed with meat or cheese or anything
else. Just good ole wheat pasta alone.
THEN, whoever gets me the most useful list (according to my arbitrary and
unstated standards), I'll try to write you a character in the story (pending
arbitrary and unstated editorial needs). S'alright?
S'okay!
Thank y'all...
Per?
a
... No man is clever enough to know all the evil he does
* Evaluation copy of Silver Xpress. Day # 60
--- via Silver Xpress V4.01 [NR]
I finally have a question worthy of your collected, assembled might.
I want to do a story where Donald is a pasta salesman. With lots of <this>
for sale and lots of <that> for sale and <such> and <so on>.
Now I can dig through my cookbooks (pedantic, boring!) or go to the library
and do research (at least gets me out of the house, but still), OR ***pending
Per's approval to use this arena for such a purpose***, I can ask you all for
a list of as many different kinds of pasta as possible AND have some fun. To
be fair to Per, this is slightly off-topic, but it IS going to be used in a
Disney Comic, so I'm hoping that counts as not too far afield.
The pastas have to be dry goods, not stuffed with meat or cheese or anything
else. Just good ole wheat pasta alone.
THEN, whoever gets me the most useful list (according to my arbitrary and
unstated standards), I'll try to write you a character in the story (pending
arbitrary and unstated editorial needs). S'alright?
S'okay!
Thank y'all...
Per?
a
... No man is clever enough to know all the evil he does
* Evaluation copy of Silver Xpress. Day # 60
--- via Silver Xpress V4.01 [NR]
David A Gerstein
Help I. D. and translate an Italian comic page!
Message 78 -
1996-02-13 at 02:37:05
FABIO, or anyone among our Italian constituency, can probably
help me here. A collector I know sent me a xerox of a page of art he
owns from some Italian story, probably from the early 1960s given the
art style. Not sure who drew it -- I know a lot less about the
Italian artists than about American ones. Art looks a little bit like
William Van Horn's stuff, if that's any help. Anyway, it's a 5-panel
page, running like this:
1) DD and US run into a cave in a mountainous setting. They
see a rolled-up scroll atop a big rock, with a book sitting under it.
US: "IL TESTAMENTO DI MADOC!"
DD: "IS FAMOSO LIBRO DI MADOC!"
2) Scrooge examines the will, looking away from camera, while
DD looks gleefully at the book.
US: "Grand'uomo, quel Madoc! Un vero papero! Ha scritto su
una corteccia d'albero per RISPARMIARE la carta!"
3) DD and US look at the will gleefully.
The will says: "Care zio Paperino, caro zio Paperone"
4) DD looks puzzled while Scrooge continues to stare at the
partly-rolled will.
DD: "Ulp! Anche Madoc aveva uno zio Paperino e uno zio
Paperone!"
US: "Questa e'la miglior prova che NOI siamo i suoi
discendenti!"
5) US looks more closely at the will while DD opens the book
and opens his mouth wide (as if he's about to read from it).
US: "Leggi il testamento!"
The will says: "Caro zio Paperino, caro zio Paperone, se
faste (?) mieno signorenti sapreste che Madoc non petera avere nefirro
un libro stampato in lingua gallera, perche la stampa e stata inventa,
ta molto dopo." [Sorry if I don't have all of that exactly right, but
it's in cursive and very hard to read]
First, I need someone to translate this. Then:
Does someone know what story this is from? Who wrote or drew
it? And is this an important page in the story, or just a random one?
David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
help me here. A collector I know sent me a xerox of a page of art he
owns from some Italian story, probably from the early 1960s given the
art style. Not sure who drew it -- I know a lot less about the
Italian artists than about American ones. Art looks a little bit like
William Van Horn's stuff, if that's any help. Anyway, it's a 5-panel
page, running like this:
1) DD and US run into a cave in a mountainous setting. They
see a rolled-up scroll atop a big rock, with a book sitting under it.
US: "IL TESTAMENTO DI MADOC!"
DD: "IS FAMOSO LIBRO DI MADOC!"
2) Scrooge examines the will, looking away from camera, while
DD looks gleefully at the book.
US: "Grand'uomo, quel Madoc! Un vero papero! Ha scritto su
una corteccia d'albero per RISPARMIARE la carta!"
3) DD and US look at the will gleefully.
The will says: "Care zio Paperino, caro zio Paperone"
4) DD looks puzzled while Scrooge continues to stare at the
partly-rolled will.
DD: "Ulp! Anche Madoc aveva uno zio Paperino e uno zio
Paperone!"
US: "Questa e'la miglior prova che NOI siamo i suoi
discendenti!"
5) US looks more closely at the will while DD opens the book
and opens his mouth wide (as if he's about to read from it).
US: "Leggi il testamento!"
The will says: "Caro zio Paperino, caro zio Paperone, se
faste (?) mieno signorenti sapreste che Madoc non petera avere nefirro
un libro stampato in lingua gallera, perche la stampa e stata inventa,
ta molto dopo." [Sorry if I don't have all of that exactly right, but
it's in cursive and very hard to read]
First, I need someone to translate this. Then:
Does someone know what story this is from? Who wrote or drew
it? And is this an important page in the story, or just a random one?
David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
Gilbert Roser
Disney comics Digest V96 #31
Message 79 -
1996-02-13 at 13:54:20
DON ROSA:
You've asked about a German bank called Wesler.
In Berlin and the area around Berlin there is no bank or part of it with
this name. Either the bank doesn't exist anymore or has changed its name
or the bank is a small bank only known in a small part of Germany.
By the name of the bank I would think that it is either the name of the
founder or it relates to the town where its founded. In the latter case
it would be the town of Wesel, I think. But I don't know.
Maybe someone around this area can help you.
Not much of help
-- Gilbert
--------------------------------
End of dcomics Digest V96 Issue #33
***********************************
You've asked about a German bank called Wesler.
In Berlin and the area around Berlin there is no bank or part of it with
this name. Either the bank doesn't exist anymore or has changed its name
or the bank is a small bank only known in a small part of Germany.
By the name of the bank I would think that it is either the name of the
founder or it relates to the town where its founded. In the latter case
it would be the town of Wesel, I think. But I don't know.
Maybe someone around this area can help you.
Not much of help
-- Gilbert
--------------------------------
End of dcomics Digest V96 Issue #33
***********************************
David A Gerstein
Disney comics Digest V96 #33
Message 80 -
1996-02-13 at 16:16:50
HARRY:
Glad you liked "His Master's Voice" and (!!!) "No Dime for
Stardom." Perhaps the worst thing about that second story is that
Gladstone advertised it as one of my original stories, confusing it
with my "Two in One". Luckily that credit was removed before it went
to press. Guess I'm just not as pleased with it as I was when I
originally completed it (I sound like Don, now!).
Yes, isn't Branca GREAT at drawing Magica? If you'll pardon
my saying so I think Branca is the BEST artist Magica has ever had
since Barks himself. His wild, animation-like lines capture her
personality vividly. I'm working on a new Magica story for Egmont
now, and I'm hoping he'll draw it when it's done.
In WDC&S 602, the Dumbo article was my least favorite of all
of them. Not that it wasn't good, but that it had nothing to do with
any of the comic stories in the issue. All the other articles were
either related to longer stories in the comic, or else included
one-page gags of their own as part of the article. The Dumbo article,
I thought, should have accompanied a reprint of the Dumbo story from
WDC&S 61 (or else some other Dumbo story), but it didn't. Still,
WDC&S 602 sure is a GREAT issue!
DAVE R:
Mostaccioli, fettucini, linguini, rigatoni, and whatever that
kind is that looks like wagon wheels. Damn, I'm ashamed I can't do
better than that offhand, but we'll see if I can find some more later.
David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
Glad you liked "His Master's Voice" and (!!!) "No Dime for
Stardom." Perhaps the worst thing about that second story is that
Gladstone advertised it as one of my original stories, confusing it
with my "Two in One". Luckily that credit was removed before it went
to press. Guess I'm just not as pleased with it as I was when I
originally completed it (I sound like Don, now!).
Yes, isn't Branca GREAT at drawing Magica? If you'll pardon
my saying so I think Branca is the BEST artist Magica has ever had
since Barks himself. His wild, animation-like lines capture her
personality vividly. I'm working on a new Magica story for Egmont
now, and I'm hoping he'll draw it when it's done.
In WDC&S 602, the Dumbo article was my least favorite of all
of them. Not that it wasn't good, but that it had nothing to do with
any of the comic stories in the issue. All the other articles were
either related to longer stories in the comic, or else included
one-page gags of their own as part of the article. The Dumbo article,
I thought, should have accompanied a reprint of the Dumbo story from
WDC&S 61 (or else some other Dumbo story), but it didn't. Still,
WDC&S 602 sure is a GREAT issue!
DAVE R:
Mostaccioli, fettucini, linguini, rigatoni, and whatever that
kind is that looks like wagon wheels. Damn, I'm ashamed I can't do
better than that offhand, but we'll see if I can find some more later.
David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
Augie De Blieck Jr
Disney comics Digest V96 #33
Message 81 -
1996-02-13 at 16:17:41
ALL:
I think I owe a couple of you replies from a few digests back.
Unfortunately, it's been rather difficult of late to edit digests
(especially as tey grow larger and larger) and respond to people who
deserve it. Also, school is extremely busy. I'm hoping to get around to
some of those responses soon. Don't think I'm being rude ignoring you.
MIKE:
Yes, the prices are rather high, but you hit on a pet peeve of mine. I
don't do it to defend Gladstone, but my Computer Science mind works in
strange ways. You do not have to wait 6 months to read the entire
Treasury of Croesus story. You need only wait four months. Using the
example I used once before, if WDC&S #1 comes out on January 1, then
WDC&S #2 comes out two months later on March 1. WDC&S #3, still being
bimonthly, comes out on May 1. That's four full months, not six, between
the first and third issue.
Sorry for being so nit-picky.
Don't even get me started on the date of the new millenium, either. ;-)
DAVE RAWSON:
Your pasta idea is great for a Donald story. Lots of alliteratives and
funny names are available. I'll send you a list via private e-mail.
-Augie
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(Email removed) - to President Reagan - adebliec/index.html
(Email removed) - ! -
I think I owe a couple of you replies from a few digests back.
Unfortunately, it's been rather difficult of late to edit digests
(especially as tey grow larger and larger) and respond to people who
deserve it. Also, school is extremely busy. I'm hoping to get around to
some of those responses soon. Don't think I'm being rude ignoring you.
MIKE:
Yes, the prices are rather high, but you hit on a pet peeve of mine. I
don't do it to defend Gladstone, but my Computer Science mind works in
strange ways. You do not have to wait 6 months to read the entire
Treasury of Croesus story. You need only wait four months. Using the
example I used once before, if WDC&S #1 comes out on January 1, then
WDC&S #2 comes out two months later on March 1. WDC&S #3, still being
bimonthly, comes out on May 1. That's four full months, not six, between
the first and third issue.
Sorry for being so nit-picky.
Don't even get me started on the date of the new millenium, either. ;-)
DAVE RAWSON:
Your pasta idea is great for a Donald story. Lots of alliteratives and
funny names are available. I'll send you a list via private e-mail.
-Augie
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Augie De Blieck Jr. - Happy 85th Birthday - http://daniel.drew.edu/~
(Email removed) - to President Reagan - adebliec/index.html
(Email removed) - ! -
Don Rosa
Disney comics Digest V96 #33
Message 82 -
1996-02-13 at 18:54:00
GILBERT:
Thanks, but I apparently misspelled the banking family name when I'd
asked about it... it was Welser, not Wesler. The bank you're thinking of
sounds like it's the "Weseler Bank" where Weselers go to bank? Anyway, I've
already found loads of info on the House of Welser of Augsburg for my story,
and it has been out of business for a few years. About 382 years.
To save Harry (was it?) from the trouble of asking me what the story
is that I'm working on where I need this data: I've done research into the
history of the search for the golden city of Eldorado, and (as always!)
found such interesting TRUE facts that it's hard to believe such things
really happened. As usual, I can't see how I can do a 24 page story that can
contain all the amazing and absolutely authentic history that I've found
involving ancient times -- and the exploration and conquest of America is
always one of my favorite subjects. I needed the Welser info because that
was an ordinary bank that was granted a large portion of South America in
return for a loan made to Charles I of Spain so he could bribe the
Electorate of the Holy Roman Empire to make him Emporer Charles V. And then
it only gets more amazing. I just can't imagine what could be more
interesting that actual history!
HARRY:
If I have the wrong spelling for the Greek form of Croesus in my
story, then I'm in good company. I think I told you that I copied that
directly from a photo of a Greek vase-painting depicting Croesus' life. So,
if a mistake was made, it was made 2500 years ago. But remember -- you can't
translate to Greek by matching letters, but by matching sounds. Still -- I
can't swear that the ancient Greek vase didn't have a misspelling on it.
There's not much they can do about that -- they've probably misplaced the
receipt by now.
I was supposed to have done a cover for "Of Ducks and Dimes and
Destinies", but I was in Italy and Finland when they called my home. Sorry.
HENRI:
No, I never tried to map out my action in "ODaDaD". Wow!
Unreasonable detail is okay, as long as it's reasonable. I mean, I may be
anal but I'm not whacky, too! But... yeah, next time I could actually hunt
down a street map of 1877 Glasgow, couldn't I?! Hm.......
Thanks, but I apparently misspelled the banking family name when I'd
asked about it... it was Welser, not Wesler. The bank you're thinking of
sounds like it's the "Weseler Bank" where Weselers go to bank? Anyway, I've
already found loads of info on the House of Welser of Augsburg for my story,
and it has been out of business for a few years. About 382 years.
To save Harry (was it?) from the trouble of asking me what the story
is that I'm working on where I need this data: I've done research into the
history of the search for the golden city of Eldorado, and (as always!)
found such interesting TRUE facts that it's hard to believe such things
really happened. As usual, I can't see how I can do a 24 page story that can
contain all the amazing and absolutely authentic history that I've found
involving ancient times -- and the exploration and conquest of America is
always one of my favorite subjects. I needed the Welser info because that
was an ordinary bank that was granted a large portion of South America in
return for a loan made to Charles I of Spain so he could bribe the
Electorate of the Holy Roman Empire to make him Emporer Charles V. And then
it only gets more amazing. I just can't imagine what could be more
interesting that actual history!
HARRY:
If I have the wrong spelling for the Greek form of Croesus in my
story, then I'm in good company. I think I told you that I copied that
directly from a photo of a Greek vase-painting depicting Croesus' life. So,
if a mistake was made, it was made 2500 years ago. But remember -- you can't
translate to Greek by matching letters, but by matching sounds. Still -- I
can't swear that the ancient Greek vase didn't have a misspelling on it.
There's not much they can do about that -- they've probably misplaced the
receipt by now.
I was supposed to have done a cover for "Of Ducks and Dimes and
Destinies", but I was in Italy and Finland when they called my home. Sorry.
HENRI:
No, I never tried to map out my action in "ODaDaD". Wow!
Unreasonable detail is okay, as long as it's reasonable. I mean, I may be
anal but I'm not whacky, too! But... yeah, next time I could actually hunt
down a street map of 1877 Glasgow, couldn't I?! Hm.......
Fredrik Ekman
Disney comics in China
Message 83 -
1996-02-13 at 18:55:35
The following is a translation of a brief notice that was
published in the Swedish newspaper Dagens Nyheter today,
February 13 on page A8. It was written by Göran Leijonhufvud
and translated by yours truly.
China criticises Donald Duck
Our children are ruined by Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck and other
Western comics, complained The Daily Worker in Beijing last
Monday. The newspaper is subordinate to the Communist party.
Disney has recently re-entered the Chinese market. At previous
attempts in the 80's, the comics' popularity led to so many
copyright violations all over China that the American comics
factory pulled out.
Mickey in particular still shows up in all sorts of Chinese
contexts in spite that noone has bothered to find out who
actually has the rights.
The Daily Worker complains that there is so much "terror,
violence and seductresses" in Western comics. "We neglect our
traditional heroes," the newspaper writes.
Among the Western comics that has been introduced the last
two years are the Swedish "91-an Karlsson" and "Mumintrollet
[The Moomin Troll?]." But they are not mentioned by The
Daily People.
[Footnote: "The Daily Worker" and "The Daily People" are my
free translations of the Swedish "Dagens Arbetarblad" och
"Dagens Folkblad". I assume that these refer to the same news-
paper and I have no idea what the original title is.]
published in the Swedish newspaper Dagens Nyheter today,
February 13 on page A8. It was written by Göran Leijonhufvud
and translated by yours truly.
China criticises Donald Duck
Our children are ruined by Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck and other
Western comics, complained The Daily Worker in Beijing last
Monday. The newspaper is subordinate to the Communist party.
Disney has recently re-entered the Chinese market. At previous
attempts in the 80's, the comics' popularity led to so many
copyright violations all over China that the American comics
factory pulled out.
Mickey in particular still shows up in all sorts of Chinese
contexts in spite that noone has bothered to find out who
actually has the rights.
The Daily Worker complains that there is so much "terror,
violence and seductresses" in Western comics. "We neglect our
traditional heroes," the newspaper writes.
Among the Western comics that has been introduced the last
two years are the Swedish "91-an Karlsson" and "Mumintrollet
[The Moomin Troll?]." But they are not mentioned by The
Daily People.
[Footnote: "The Daily Worker" and "The Daily People" are my
free translations of the Swedish "Dagens Arbetarblad" och
"Dagens Folkblad". I assume that these refer to the same news-
paper and I have no idea what the original title is.]
Harry Fluks
Kroisos or Kroesos
Message 84 -
1996-02-13 at 19:17:07
DON:
> To save Harry (was it?) from the trouble of asking me what the story
> is that I'm working on
No, it was Arthur. One of the other Dutch guys.
> If I have the wrong spelling for the Greek form of Croesus in my
> story, then I'm in good company. I think I told you that I copied that
> directly from a photo of a Greek vase-painting depicting Croesus' life.
You only said you got the letters from "somewhere". Now I'm really
puzzled. Maybe Croesus is spelled differently in Lydian dialect?
> But remember -- you can't translate to Greek by matching letters
I know my Greek. I was just using Latin letters here because my keyboard
doesn't have Greek characters.
--Harry.
> To save Harry (was it?) from the trouble of asking me what the story
> is that I'm working on
No, it was Arthur. One of the other Dutch guys.
> If I have the wrong spelling for the Greek form of Croesus in my
> story, then I'm in good company. I think I told you that I copied that
> directly from a photo of a Greek vase-painting depicting Croesus' life.
You only said you got the letters from "somewhere". Now I'm really
puzzled. Maybe Croesus is spelled differently in Lydian dialect?
> But remember -- you can't translate to Greek by matching letters
I know my Greek. I was just using Latin letters here because my keyboard
doesn't have Greek characters.
--Harry.
Henri Sivonen
Colorings and dcomics-d Digest V95 #23 & V96 #33
Message 85 -
1996-02-13 at 20:25:51
I got Walt Disney's Comics and Stories #601 today. The coloring of "The
Treasury of Croesus" was a disappointment for me. The colors seemed too
bright (IMHO). For example the page in the British Museum. Is it just a
matter of colorist or could the paper type cause that?
I compared Finnish AA 24/95 and Swedish KA 24/95 (Of Ducks and Times and
Destinines). They both have the same coloring, but the Swedish one is
printed on shinier paper. Now that I think of it I'd say the ideal paper
quality for that coloring would be between the on used by AA and the used
by KA.
May be "The Treasury of Croesus" would look better if was printed on
cheaper paper. (Cheaper for the readers, too.)
BTW, The computer lettering didn't look bad.
Don R,
> Do you have access to a copy of U$ #296? I write in my text piece in
>there that I don't really equate $crooge and Charles Foster Kane.
Now almost two months later... I got it finally via *snail* mail. Some of
the panels that aren't mentioned to have been redrawn are wider that the
panels published in Finland. Did they crop them here or are they partially
redrawn?
Harry,
>UNCLE SCROOGE #297...
How do you manage to get your Gladstone comics that early? My #296 arrived
today!
--
Henri Sivonen
(Email removed) WWW:
Fax: +358-0-479387 http://www.clinet.fi/~henris
Treasury of Croesus" was a disappointment for me. The colors seemed too
bright (IMHO). For example the page in the British Museum. Is it just a
matter of colorist or could the paper type cause that?
I compared Finnish AA 24/95 and Swedish KA 24/95 (Of Ducks and Times and
Destinines). They both have the same coloring, but the Swedish one is
printed on shinier paper. Now that I think of it I'd say the ideal paper
quality for that coloring would be between the on used by AA and the used
by KA.
May be "The Treasury of Croesus" would look better if was printed on
cheaper paper. (Cheaper for the readers, too.)
BTW, The computer lettering didn't look bad.
Don R,
> Do you have access to a copy of U$ #296? I write in my text piece in
>there that I don't really equate $crooge and Charles Foster Kane.
Now almost two months later... I got it finally via *snail* mail. Some of
the panels that aren't mentioned to have been redrawn are wider that the
panels published in Finland. Did they crop them here or are they partially
redrawn?
Harry,
>UNCLE SCROOGE #297...
How do you manage to get your Gladstone comics that early? My #296 arrived
today!
--
Henri Sivonen
(Email removed) WWW:
Fax: +358-0-479387 http://www.clinet.fi/~henris
Harry Fluks
How to get U$297...
Message 86 -
1996-02-13 at 22:23:51
HENRI:
> UNCLE SCROOGE #297... How do you manage to get your
> Gladstone comics that early?
The shop in Amsterdam gets their Gladstones within 4 days from
their publication in the USA. I have to go to Amsterdam to get them
from the shop...
Maybe you can come to Amsterdam as well? 8-)
--Harry.
> UNCLE SCROOGE #297... How do you manage to get your
> Gladstone comics that early?
The shop in Amsterdam gets their Gladstones within 4 days from
their publication in the USA. I have to go to Amsterdam to get them
from the shop...
Maybe you can come to Amsterdam as well? 8-)
--Harry.
Sarah Bruce
Disney comics Digest V96 #33
Message 87 -
1996-02-13 at 23:52:53
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Frank M. DiCapua
Computer Lettering
Message 88 -
1996-02-14 at 10:16:09
Hi All,
After the Lo$ won an Eisner award, I became much
more sensitive to the lettering of Disney comics. I
can't say that I agree with those saying that the lettering
for 'Of Ducks, Dimes and Destinies' isn't too bad. In fact,
I think that it looks awful when you hold it up and compare
it to some of the work in Lo$. Most of it looks 'cartoony',
and the special effects lettering leaves a lot to be desired.
I feel for Gladstone. They're trying real hard to
survive in an industry thats pretty volatile, but some of
the cost cutting they've done recently is affecting their
publication quality. I have to wonder whether all of it is
geared towards their viability, or whether some of it is
geared towards just more profits.
For example, they are comissioning less and less original
covers, and generating their own by pasting up bits and pieces of
enlarged art from the inside stories. Also, a lot of the stuff that
they print has already been published by them in one form or
another, and so the production cost has already been recouped
elsewhere (albums, Gladstone I, etc).
The new format for Walt Disney Comics is higher quality,
but I don't get too excited about anything other than Don's stuff.
I would have preferred if they made U$ exclusively a Don Rosa book.
Every month, they could give us a Rosa story lettered by Todd Klein
and colored by Susan Daigle-Leach. Momentum from the Eisner awards
would have allowed them to charge a (slightly) higher price and
publish the book on better paper. I think that such a book has the
potential to build up a significant following because people will come
to expect a certain consistent level of quality. Gladstone has a
sufficient backlog of unpublished Rosa work to make this happen,
and Don is still producing stuff. As they built up there readership
on U$, the other titles would also get a boost by association.
Frank D
After the Lo$ won an Eisner award, I became much
more sensitive to the lettering of Disney comics. I
can't say that I agree with those saying that the lettering
for 'Of Ducks, Dimes and Destinies' isn't too bad. In fact,
I think that it looks awful when you hold it up and compare
it to some of the work in Lo$. Most of it looks 'cartoony',
and the special effects lettering leaves a lot to be desired.
I feel for Gladstone. They're trying real hard to
survive in an industry thats pretty volatile, but some of
the cost cutting they've done recently is affecting their
publication quality. I have to wonder whether all of it is
geared towards their viability, or whether some of it is
geared towards just more profits.
For example, they are comissioning less and less original
covers, and generating their own by pasting up bits and pieces of
enlarged art from the inside stories. Also, a lot of the stuff that
they print has already been published by them in one form or
another, and so the production cost has already been recouped
elsewhere (albums, Gladstone I, etc).
The new format for Walt Disney Comics is higher quality,
but I don't get too excited about anything other than Don's stuff.
I would have preferred if they made U$ exclusively a Don Rosa book.
Every month, they could give us a Rosa story lettered by Todd Klein
and colored by Susan Daigle-Leach. Momentum from the Eisner awards
would have allowed them to charge a (slightly) higher price and
publish the book on better paper. I think that such a book has the
potential to build up a significant following because people will come
to expect a certain consistent level of quality. Gladstone has a
sufficient backlog of unpublished Rosa work to make this happen,
and Don is still producing stuff. As they built up there readership
on U$, the other titles would also get a boost by association.
Frank D
Frank Stajano
V96 #33, identification of Italian story
Message 89 -
1996-02-14 at 13:24:31
Hi David,
> FABIO, or anyone among our Italian constituency, can probably
> help me here. A collector I know sent me a xerox of a page of art he
> owns from some Italian story, probably from the early 1960s given the
> art style. Not sure who drew it -- I know a lot less about the
> Italian artists than about American ones. Art looks a little bit like
This is page 36 of a 38-page story called "Paperino e l'imperatore
degli Stati Uniti", written by Renata Rizzo and drawn by Pier Lorenzo
De Vita, first published in Topolino libretto n. 601, 11th June 1967.
When I saw your excerpt I thought that the style of the dialogue
suggested Guido Martina (Renata Rizzo is in fact his wife and of
course they cooperated on many scripts). I couldn't remember the story
straight away so I started looking in Fossati's index for stories by
Martina which might ring a bell, but it didn't help. Suddenly,
however, I remembered the story perfectly, and immediately knew that
the art was by PL De Vita. I then scanned the index again for
Martina/De Vita, again without success... So I eventually went to The
Real Thing and flipped through (you're free not to believe this bit,
but it's true) 160 comics before finding the right one! Once I had the
title I went back to Fossati's index once more where I discovered that
I was slightly off with my Martina guess.
> First, I need someone to translate this. Then: Does someone know
> what story this is from? Who wrote or drew it? And is this an
> important page in the story, or just a random one?
The story is not a particularly significant or good one. Donald learns
from a TV programme that America has been discovered by a Welsh prince
called Madoc in 1170. As Madoc was a duck, Donald hopes to be his heir
and to have the right to the title of Emperor of the United States
(Barks's classic and vastly superior viking helmet story comes to mind
as a distant relative, of course, although the two plots are
completely different). Scrooge has the same thoughts. But they both
overlooked some details, spotted by Huey Dewey Louie, which give away
the fact that this Madoc story must be bogus.
The page your friend has is near the climax of the story, when Donald
and Scrooge find the nephews' "easter egg".
Literal translation follows.
Panel 1-2:
Scrooge: "Madoc's will!"
Donald: "Madoc's famous book!"
Panel 3:
Scrooge: "Great man, that Madoc! A true duck! He wrote on bark to SAVE paper!"
Panel 4:
(will reads) "Dear uncle Donald, dear uncle Scrooge"
Panel 5:
Donald: "Gulp! Madoc, too, had an uncle Donald and an uncle Scrooge!"
Scrooge: "This is the best proof that we are his descendants!"
Panel 6: Scrooge: "Read the will!"
(will reads) "Dear uncle Donald, dear uncle Scrooge, if you were less
ignorant you would know that Madoc could not own a printed
Welsh-language book in 1170, because printing was invented much
later."
This page can be seen as reference 010 on my "graphical annotations"
pages.
http://www.cam-orl.co.uk/~fms/disney/references/
Frank (Filologo Disneyano) http://www.cam-orl.co.uk/~fms
PS: I'll take the occasion of this brief "up periscope" in the list
after a few months of silence to mention that I've prepared an online
bibliography of the Disney books and articles by the Quartetto Toscano
of Disney experts, to be found at
http://www.cam-orl.co.uk/~fms/disney/quartet
> FABIO, or anyone among our Italian constituency, can probably
> help me here. A collector I know sent me a xerox of a page of art he
> owns from some Italian story, probably from the early 1960s given the
> art style. Not sure who drew it -- I know a lot less about the
> Italian artists than about American ones. Art looks a little bit like
This is page 36 of a 38-page story called "Paperino e l'imperatore
degli Stati Uniti", written by Renata Rizzo and drawn by Pier Lorenzo
De Vita, first published in Topolino libretto n. 601, 11th June 1967.
When I saw your excerpt I thought that the style of the dialogue
suggested Guido Martina (Renata Rizzo is in fact his wife and of
course they cooperated on many scripts). I couldn't remember the story
straight away so I started looking in Fossati's index for stories by
Martina which might ring a bell, but it didn't help. Suddenly,
however, I remembered the story perfectly, and immediately knew that
the art was by PL De Vita. I then scanned the index again for
Martina/De Vita, again without success... So I eventually went to The
Real Thing and flipped through (you're free not to believe this bit,
but it's true) 160 comics before finding the right one! Once I had the
title I went back to Fossati's index once more where I discovered that
I was slightly off with my Martina guess.
> First, I need someone to translate this. Then: Does someone know
> what story this is from? Who wrote or drew it? And is this an
> important page in the story, or just a random one?
The story is not a particularly significant or good one. Donald learns
from a TV programme that America has been discovered by a Welsh prince
called Madoc in 1170. As Madoc was a duck, Donald hopes to be his heir
and to have the right to the title of Emperor of the United States
(Barks's classic and vastly superior viking helmet story comes to mind
as a distant relative, of course, although the two plots are
completely different). Scrooge has the same thoughts. But they both
overlooked some details, spotted by Huey Dewey Louie, which give away
the fact that this Madoc story must be bogus.
The page your friend has is near the climax of the story, when Donald
and Scrooge find the nephews' "easter egg".
Literal translation follows.
Panel 1-2:
Scrooge: "Madoc's will!"
Donald: "Madoc's famous book!"
Panel 3:
Scrooge: "Great man, that Madoc! A true duck! He wrote on bark to SAVE paper!"
Panel 4:
(will reads) "Dear uncle Donald, dear uncle Scrooge"
Panel 5:
Donald: "Gulp! Madoc, too, had an uncle Donald and an uncle Scrooge!"
Scrooge: "This is the best proof that we are his descendants!"
Panel 6: Scrooge: "Read the will!"
(will reads) "Dear uncle Donald, dear uncle Scrooge, if you were less
ignorant you would know that Madoc could not own a printed
Welsh-language book in 1170, because printing was invented much
later."
This page can be seen as reference 010 on my "graphical annotations"
pages.
http://www.cam-orl.co.uk/~fms/disney/references/
Frank (Filologo Disneyano) http://www.cam-orl.co.uk/~fms
PS: I'll take the occasion of this brief "up periscope" in the list
after a few months of silence to mention that I've prepared an online
bibliography of the Disney books and articles by the Quartetto Toscano
of Disney experts, to be found at
http://www.cam-orl.co.uk/~fms/disney/quartet
Elon V. Brisola
Gladstone fax & phone
Message 90 -
1996-02-14 at 13:31:04
Cc: (Email removed)
FRANK:
Gladstone phone: (520) 776-1300
Gladstone fax: (520) 445-7536
USA international code is 1, I believe.
Best regards,
Elon
FRANK:
Gladstone phone: (520) 776-1300
Gladstone fax: (520) 445-7536
USA international code is 1, I believe.
Best regards,
Elon