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CAREY:
> "The Pied Piper of Duckburg"
> In the ftp database there is a note stating that both Barks and Rosa
> wrote the story, with Barks having penciled the first three pages in
> the 50's and Don Rosa completing the art and plot.
> There is another note that I have not been able to figure out: "see CX OS 59"

The "CX OS '59" is a code I made up. Apart from all the published work by Barks,
the database also includes all UNpublished (but still existing) work by Barks.
With unpublished I mean not published before 1972. All these unpublished
entries got phoney codes, in order to be able to refer to them. When an unfinished
and unpublished piece of work was finished and published, it usually has a
different code, with a comment [see ...]. Like in this Piper case.
But if the original sketches were published, the CX code would be used.

The "unpublished" work of Barks can be found in the ftp files "Barks.story-index",
"Barks.gag-index", "Barks.cover-index" and "Barks.oil-index". All codes
start with a 'C'.
It's just that I wanted to list EVERY artwork Barks did for Disney (Western).

> OS, of course, means "one shot," and seems to be a reference to one
> of the one shot Gyro's of 1959.

The 3 pages of the piper story were meant for the first Gyro Gearloose
one short, in 1959. But Barks never finished the story.

> BTW, the Disney Comics database is extremely valuable to me, and I
> *really* appreciate all of the work the contributors put into it.

Thank you, thank you!

> I formated it to 80 columns and printed the whole thing
> on 2-sided paper.

I'm curious how you formatted the files to 80 columns. Apart from
the creator indexes, the current files are usually quite wide, and I don't
mind, because I print them in very small letters and about 180 chars wide.

But you're not the first one who prefers 80 columns, so if
you tell me your desired layout, I can change my programs and
produce the output you want (or a similar output) next time!

--Harry.

my brother is an excellent artist and his dream is to work for disney
drawing for them. Please tell me how he can get in touch with
anyone. something that may give him a shoot.

DON M.:
I musta blacked out earlier. Why "Donald"? What's wrong with "Don M."?
If you're referring to MY story, it was a ditchdigger's, not a
miner's boots that young $crooge cleaned.

DAVID:
I never said anything about a Pinafore parody that anybody wrote.
Musta been someone else.

HENRI:
I agree COMPLETELY that these "kids'" comics should NOT be written
on a kid's level! That treats them as idiots, and kids... at least BRIGHT
kids... like to be treated better than that. I have VIVID recollections of
what I used to enjoy as a very young child... and it was old movies on TV
and Carl Barks comics, not simple-minded cartoons or Casper the Freindly
Ghost. I tell the publishers that as I travel around, and some agree
completely. Or they at least agree that each issue should have a VARIETY of
levels for readers to enjoy. There still are a few editors in a few
countries that think the comics should be designed from the ground up as
being strictly on the level of stupid children. I could name those
countries, except those sorts of comments I make on here are seized by the
skunk faction in the lurker section and mailed directly to those editors and
the world press. So... you be your own judge.

HARRY:
The cropped artwork seems to be limited to that one story. As I've
said, I did "Of Ducks and Dimes and Destinies" 5 years ago (it was the first
of my Egmont stories editted, and then only partially, by Byron Erickson),
and I think they snipped the art on only that story. Or... maybe I'm wrong.
Perhaps on my other stories they've been snipping off the TOPS of the
panels. Gosh -- now I need to go look!
But that is the only version they send out photostats of. Still,
it's not like you're missing much... just a sliver of the bottom of the
panel. But you will still see it in one spot. I currently have my own World
Wide Web site under construction, where I discuss each of my stories in
excrutiating and preposterous detail, and print rejected script sequences
and shots of my own photostat files of the long-gone original art. When I
deal with "Of Ducks and Dimes and Destinies", I'll use the original
splash-panel so you can see it. My page is on-line now, but I'm not going to
tell you how to find it until I get a few more entries loaded in, and write
an introduction or something. (List member DAN SHANE is the guy doing all
the teck-nickle work.)

DAVE R.:
Thank you for the rant on my behalf. It's nice to know that other
writers know how that sort of mindless editting effects us "sensitive"
arteests. But I am always HIGHLY careful of how I react to that sort of
thing, due to that afore-mentioned skunk faction in the lurker section. Can
I have you do all my complaining?

MARC

>my brother is an excellent artist and his dream is to work for disney
>drawing for them. Please tell me how he can get in touch with
>anyone. something that may give him a shoot.

Disney Studios has an email system. Each person's email is

(Email removed)

I know this has nothing to do with Disney Comics, gang, but I think MARC's
brother ought to have a shoot. And, MARC, I hope your next message is to
(Email removed)

-- Wes

MERLIN --
Hey, long time no see! I wonder how many other people I haven't had
contact with in years and years turn up here occasionally.
Thank goodness I started writing comics stories in 1990, and not just
now. Even by the list you compiled here, I'm over the hill! If I ever become
really well known for one particular thing of my own creation, it probably won't
be until I'm well into my 50s.

MARCO BARLOTTI --
I made a bunch of very minor changes in the "Oola-Oola" story to plug up
small plot holes (which may have been introduced in the translation -- I was
working from a rough English version), plus one fairly prominent addition --
instead of indecipherable grunts, I gave Mr. Bunz a "language" of sorts that the
reader could sort of get meaning out of and be amused by; and in so doing, I
made his language one that Scrooge had learned in his earlier career
(originally, Scrooge was as unable to understand him as anyone else). But there
was one two-page sequence that struck me as just plain WRONG, and I put a fair
amount of effort into righting it.
Because of poor accounting, Scrooge foresaw a day in the far future when
his fortune would dwindle to nothing. He took aside one coin as a premature
keepsake, then decided having that reminder would be too painful, so he threw
the coin in the river.
The fact that this scarcely makes sense doesn't bother me a whole lot,
but it does seem out of character for Scrooge to throw money away for such a
stupid reason. So I had the coin represent the accounting discrepancy itself,
and throwing it in the river be the least expensive solution. I wound up with a
really good scene, handling all of his agonizing in dialog, kept him in
character throughout, and got a couple of other decent gags out of it to boot.
As I said earlier, I really enjoyed working on that Scarpa story, and I'm
quite pleased with the result. I hope and expect to do more.

WES --
"surely Gladstone knows about our little group."
No doubt. But as John Clark once put it to me, "I don't need anything
ELSE to take up ALL my time."

CORD WILJES --
April is when the Gladstone license runs out, is my understanding. I
talked with them last week, and renewal negotiations (for three years) are far
enough along that they went ahead and solicited comics for May -- but nothing is
signed yet.

MELANIE O --
Gladstone published two years of DuckTales before Disney declined to
renew their license and started publishing comics themselves. My imperfect
memory also tells me the show ran for some time before the comics series
started. So the timing was not right for it to have had anything to do with any
putative machievellian machinations.
I think the shortcomings of the Disney-published comics were due more to
the fact that they put superhero people in charge of the line -- first thing
Scrooge did in the opening of their first issue of DuckTales was a Spider-Man
routine. But then, if you want big-name, experienced comic book professionals in
the U.S., you've mostly got to go with superhero people...

DAVID --
" their characters are clearly drawn to be attractive"
Jessica Rabbit comes to mind, of course... Attractive women aren't per se
off-color, but there's plenty of stuff that does qualify. We can't cite all the
butt gags from the "classic" period, of course, but LION KING abounded with gags
(and I DO mean GAGs) about flatulence.
Gladstone is forever changing my "who"s to "whom" -- and I know it's them
and not Disney, because they also did it on my Mighty Morphin Power Rangers
scripts. This is annoying not so much because I regard "whom" as an archaism
that would quite rightly have been long since dropped from the language if not
for centuries of effort by pedantic grammar school teachers, but because,
despite my objections to the continued existence of the term, MY use of it is
ALWAYS correct.

HENRI SIVONEN --
I fully agree that kids can benefit from, and deserve, more than
watered-down stories. I owe a lot of my own rapid education to the fact that
Carl Barks felt that way, and whenever possible, I like to "pay forward" by
writing kids' stories like that myself.

Quack, Don Markstein
(Email removed)

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Right after Don Rosa's "Hearts of the Yukon" Egmonts treats us with
"Mickey Mouse in Cyberspace" - my tentative title for the 16 page serial
in issue #7/8. It's the 'new/old' Mickey in shorts with art by Ferioli
and script - I assume - by Byron Ericson, as it reminds me of "Fantasy
Island". Or are the Gilberts, who are lurking on this list, responsible?
I've only read the first part - and in Swedish, so I'm really looking
forward to the Danish edition, as I've decided to blame Stefan Di"os for
the pale translations of, among others, David's recent McGoon story.
Truth is, that both Danish and Swedish translations in places fall flat,
but in combination do more justice to the scripts submitted by all you
writers out there. But even art can get spoiled by over-zealous re-scripters.

A zillion thanks for your little favor, DON! And I've ordered "Kritik"
#109 from the library and will get back to that when I know some more.
I will, however, never *ever* order a "Happy Meal" at McDonalds to get
one of those ugly 'ducks-in-a-box'. I repeat: NEVER!
Unless I get real hungry.

-- Ole 'RoC' Nielsen -- (Email removed)