CATO:
> I was told that there exist a story where Donald Duck list up a
> mathematic-theorem from the Banach-theory
I don't know what the Banach theory is, but this sounds like one of the
unofficial Duck stories that were made for the Danish Mads Fo/k, a
faculty magazine.
The only other possibility I can think of is Donald skating an integral
formula on ice (in the Lillehammer story). But that's not a Banach theory??
EIRIK:
> What are the differences between the two Donald Duck family trees by Don
> Rosa ?
One version has an extra vertical bar on the right side, showing "the friends
of the Ducks" in 5 circles: Daisy, April, May, June, and Gyro with his Helper.
As far as I know, that's the only difference.
--Harry.
Author
Topic: 199706
(255 messages)
Harry Fluks
Banach Theorem, Family Trees
Message 121 -
1997-06-16 at 22:39:30
Eirik Krogh Visted
Donald Duck family trees
Message 122 -
1997-06-16 at 22:50:18
What are the differences between the two Donald Duck family trees by Don
Rosa ?
Eirik Krogh Visted =20
-- intellektuell r=E5ne =20
"Skjebnen er hard! Halsen er bl=F8t ... et siste hugg og s=E5 er det m=F8rkt=
!" -
Iskalde Gr=F8ss #6/1994
http://home.sn.no/~evisted
=09
Rosa ?
Eirik Krogh Visted =20
-- intellektuell r=E5ne =20
"Skjebnen er hard! Halsen er bl=F8t ... et siste hugg og s=E5 er det m=F8rkt=
!" -
Iskalde Gr=F8ss #6/1994
http://home.sn.no/~evisted
=09
David Gerstein
Disney comics Digest V97 #122
Message 123 -
1997-06-16 at 22:56:01
DON MARKSTEIN (who most recently mentioned it) and EVERYONE:
Thanks for congratulating me on my new job. I'm looking forward to
starting it in the fall.
Various business involved in my getting ready for the job (and for
planning a training session last month, when I went to Denmark and
practiced the relevant duties) has put me out of regular touch with the
Digest for quite a while -- it's also delayed my sending of various private
packages I'd been meaning to finish and mail to certain list members. I've
mailed a few of those now; Dan Kinney and others, who are still waiting,
won't be waiting much longer. (Hear that, guys?)
I've learned that Egmont will be publishing four of my stories in
the next few weeks, including a Br'er Rabbit (the only time I've done one),
the Donald Duck story "Blunder Down Under", and the Mickey stories "The
Timber Topper" (with Eega Beeva) and "Bats in the Belfry" (with... well...
maybe you'll have to wait and see :-). I'm very interested in some
criticism from anyone interested, when the stories appear.
For Gladstone, my current work is led by the Americanization of
Scarpa's "The Flying Scot," a project which I'm in the middle of now.
Gladstone will also use some of my Egmont stories soon; WDC&S 617's use of
"Cavern in the Shifting Sands" has been mentioned, but even sooner, WDC&S
616 will include my "A Mouse Against the World," and Diamond didn't even
mention it. *Snif*
GARY:
The EEK THE CAT series has been available for a while. ANIMATO
magazine had a quasi-review of it in an Eek-related issue which came out in
summer 1995.
RICH:
>why, for instance, is "God Help the Outcasts" on the Rascal Songs tape, when,
>as far as I can tell, it's neither sung by nor about a rascal?
I guess some would call feisty Esmerelda a rascal. But IMHO, your
suggestion of "Who's Afraid of the Big Bad Wolf" or "Hi-Diddle-Dee-Dee" is
a little better. I think the choices of songs, though, were keyed to
feature films which have recently been in theatres or on video, and Pinoke
made his video bow about two years ago now, so he's not very current. Oh,
well.
IMHO, one of the very best rascal songs is "Ev'rybody's Got a
Laughin' Place" from SONG OF THE SOUTH. Given that SONG is to be released
on VHS in America next spring, I wonder... was it on the album? I can
hardly think of a better rascal than Br'er Rabbit!
David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
Also <(Email removed)>
Thanks for congratulating me on my new job. I'm looking forward to
starting it in the fall.
Various business involved in my getting ready for the job (and for
planning a training session last month, when I went to Denmark and
practiced the relevant duties) has put me out of regular touch with the
Digest for quite a while -- it's also delayed my sending of various private
packages I'd been meaning to finish and mail to certain list members. I've
mailed a few of those now; Dan Kinney and others, who are still waiting,
won't be waiting much longer. (Hear that, guys?)
I've learned that Egmont will be publishing four of my stories in
the next few weeks, including a Br'er Rabbit (the only time I've done one),
the Donald Duck story "Blunder Down Under", and the Mickey stories "The
Timber Topper" (with Eega Beeva) and "Bats in the Belfry" (with... well...
maybe you'll have to wait and see :-). I'm very interested in some
criticism from anyone interested, when the stories appear.
For Gladstone, my current work is led by the Americanization of
Scarpa's "The Flying Scot," a project which I'm in the middle of now.
Gladstone will also use some of my Egmont stories soon; WDC&S 617's use of
"Cavern in the Shifting Sands" has been mentioned, but even sooner, WDC&S
616 will include my "A Mouse Against the World," and Diamond didn't even
mention it. *Snif*
GARY:
The EEK THE CAT series has been available for a while. ANIMATO
magazine had a quasi-review of it in an Eek-related issue which came out in
summer 1995.
RICH:
>why, for instance, is "God Help the Outcasts" on the Rascal Songs tape, when,
>as far as I can tell, it's neither sung by nor about a rascal?
I guess some would call feisty Esmerelda a rascal. But IMHO, your
suggestion of "Who's Afraid of the Big Bad Wolf" or "Hi-Diddle-Dee-Dee" is
a little better. I think the choices of songs, though, were keyed to
feature films which have recently been in theatres or on video, and Pinoke
made his video bow about two years ago now, so he's not very current. Oh,
well.
IMHO, one of the very best rascal songs is "Ev'rybody's Got a
Laughin' Place" from SONG OF THE SOUTH. Given that SONG is to be released
on VHS in America next spring, I wonder... was it on the album? I can
hardly think of a better rascal than Br'er Rabbit!
David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
Also <(Email removed)>
SRoweCanoe
Disney comics Digest V97 #122
Message 124 -
1997-06-17 at 00:12:14
In a message dated 97-06-16 08:13:27 EDT, you write:
<< Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 19:56:12 -0400 (EDT)
From: (Email removed)
To: (Email removed)
Subject: Missed Digest 120
I seem to have missed Digest 120. Can you mail that to me again, please?
Thanks.
--your pal, Hoy
>>
Since I missed it also, there may have been some problems getting it through
to AOL.
Rich M: Ah, EEk the Cat was not a Disney Comic, but published by Hamilton.
Now Doug is a Disney characther ... And Acclaim has the comic book rights to
the non-classic characthers (Hercules, Lion King, et al).
Steven Rowe
<< Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 19:56:12 -0400 (EDT)
From: (Email removed)
To: (Email removed)
Subject: Missed Digest 120
I seem to have missed Digest 120. Can you mail that to me again, please?
Thanks.
--your pal, Hoy
>>
Since I missed it also, there may have been some problems getting it through
to AOL.
Rich M: Ah, EEk the Cat was not a Disney Comic, but published by Hamilton.
Now Doug is a Disney characther ... And Acclaim has the comic book rights to
the non-classic characthers (Hercules, Lion King, et al).
Steven Rowe
Gary Leach
Disney comics Digest V97 #121/122
Message 125 -
1997-06-17 at 00:19:48
Joe:
We know that the "self-covers" were not universally loved, but they kept us
the game. Sales figure show that the self-covers made no overall difference
in the ordering habits of retailers. We're managing to cope with whatever
hits we took in terms of our image, because the alternative was to not be
here to cope with anything.
Rich:
>I didn't even realize Eek the Cat was a Disney character...
He's not. He belongs to Fox Children's Network. Of course, Disney might own
Fox by next Tuesday, for all we know.
Gary
****************************
"I've got blistahs on my fingahs!" - Ringo Starr
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Gladstone on the Web: http://www.hamlco.com/bhc/
---------------------------------------------------------------------
We know that the "self-covers" were not universally loved, but they kept us
the game. Sales figure show that the self-covers made no overall difference
in the ordering habits of retailers. We're managing to cope with whatever
hits we took in terms of our image, because the alternative was to not be
here to cope with anything.
Rich:
>I didn't even realize Eek the Cat was a Disney character...
He's not. He belongs to Fox Children's Network. Of course, Disney might own
Fox by next Tuesday, for all we know.
Gary
****************************
"I've got blistahs on my fingahs!" - Ringo Starr
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Gladstone on the Web: http://www.hamlco.com/bhc/
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Vidar Svendsen
Birthdates
Message 126 -
1997-06-17 at 00:51:14
At 07:28 13.06.97 +0200, you wrote:
>Did Barks ever state, directly or indirectly, what was Scrooge's and/or
>Donald's birthdate ?
I think there is ua Taliaferro-strip about Donalds birthday. If I'm right, it's
been printed in Norway in a "Fra dag til dag"-book. (I'm 900 km's away
from my comics, so I can't check it out)
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Vidar Svendsen http://home.sol.no/vsvends
One good thing about getting old is that people belive you when you say
"I don't remember"
>Did Barks ever state, directly or indirectly, what was Scrooge's and/or
>Donald's birthdate ?
I think there is ua Taliaferro-strip about Donalds birthday. If I'm right, it's
been printed in Norway in a "Fra dag til dag"-book. (I'm 900 km's away
from my comics, so I can't check it out)
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Vidar Svendsen http://home.sol.no/vsvends
One good thing about getting old is that people belive you when you say
"I don't remember"
Augie De Blieck Jr.
Other Disney Properties
Message 127 -
1997-06-17 at 01:50:28
Hi Rich,
> from the same cloth as Mickey and Donald, either. But it's long overdue for
> Gladstone to do something with the more recent characters now that Marvel's
> (finally!) let the license lapse...as someone pointed out, there's more to
> Disney than funny animals. Yes (and regrettably), it no longer has the rights
> to Zorro...but why not a Gargoyles comic book?
I don't know; Gargoyles would make for an excellent comic book, if they could
get a creative team like you would have on the animated Superman and Batman
spin-offs. You need that kind of art style, I think. And now that the show
itself is cancelled, it would make for an excellent venue to continue the story
in. (And from what I heard, Gargoyles wasn't selling that badly and Marvel
cancelled it rather abruptly. Amanda Conner was shocked by the news.)
And to your other points: Acclaim now holds the comics-publishing license for
the rest of the stuff, I believe it is. Schnookums and Meat was just a poor
attempt at Ren and Stimpy, IMHO. (As was 2 Stupid Dogs.)
And I'm not terribly sure comics based on "Honey I Shrunk The Kid" or "The
Mighty Ducks" [the movie here] would see at all. I wonder how Zorro is selling
for Topps. Not terribly well, apparently, as they had to resort to bringing in
Bad Girls to sell it.
Me, my dream comic would be WDC&S at less than $4 a pop. Get rid of the
cardboard cover and square binding, for starters. And don't serialize Don Rosa
stories.
-Augie
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Augie De Blieck Jr. * (Email removed) * (Email removed)
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> from the same cloth as Mickey and Donald, either. But it's long overdue for
> Gladstone to do something with the more recent characters now that Marvel's
> (finally!) let the license lapse...as someone pointed out, there's more to
> Disney than funny animals. Yes (and regrettably), it no longer has the rights
> to Zorro...but why not a Gargoyles comic book?
I don't know; Gargoyles would make for an excellent comic book, if they could
get a creative team like you would have on the animated Superman and Batman
spin-offs. You need that kind of art style, I think. And now that the show
itself is cancelled, it would make for an excellent venue to continue the story
in. (And from what I heard, Gargoyles wasn't selling that badly and Marvel
cancelled it rather abruptly. Amanda Conner was shocked by the news.)
And to your other points: Acclaim now holds the comics-publishing license for
the rest of the stuff, I believe it is. Schnookums and Meat was just a poor
attempt at Ren and Stimpy, IMHO. (As was 2 Stupid Dogs.)
And I'm not terribly sure comics based on "Honey I Shrunk The Kid" or "The
Mighty Ducks" [the movie here] would see at all. I wonder how Zorro is selling
for Topps. Not terribly well, apparently, as they had to resort to bringing in
Bad Girls to sell it.
Me, my dream comic would be WDC&S at less than $4 a pop. Get rid of the
cardboard cover and square binding, for starters. And don't serialize Don Rosa
stories.
-Augie
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Anders Berglund
(Donald's birth) Dates etc.
Message 128 -
1997-06-17 at 02:08:25
> Eirik, freelance police asked:
>
> <<Did Barks ever state, directly or indirectly, what was Scrooge's and/or
> Donald's birthdate ?>>
... to which Rick Morrissey commented:
>
> Not that I remember. However, THE THREE CABALLEROS (1945) took place on
> Donald's birthday, which was said to fall (that time) on Friday the 13th...so
> it might be worthwhile checking to see which months of (presumably) 1944 had
> the 13th fall on a Friday.
>
That, to conclude the line of reasoning, would make 13th October Donald's
birthday.
HOWEVER - I would like to continue the digression from the original question,
since the obscure "13 May, 1932" once again has appeared as Donald's
birthdate. It is stated in the calendar section of the Norwegian Donald
Duck weekly magazine's web site (www.donald.no), which opened the other
week. It is not yet seen in the Swedish and Danish counterparts. I feel
very disappointed with their phrasing, which goes something like "13 May,
1932, was Donald drawn for the first time. In spite of this, 9 June,
1934, is celebrated as his official birthday". Following Marcia Blitz in
her book "Donald Duck" (Harmony Books, 1979; ISBN 0-517-52961-0), when she
on page 14 ff. gives the only thourough and authoritative treating of the
matter of Donald's mythical origin that I know of, I call that "RUBBISH!".
Legend seems indeed to point out "Friday the 13th" as a fitting day of
birth for Donald, though rather a 13th MARCH. (His license plates' number,
313, fits well into this myth, too!)
I have no problem with accepting this; the problem is if you try to take
this fictitious birthdate in his duck universe as a REAL date of a supposed
creation. The first problem you then encounter is that March 13 was not a
Friday in 1932, the supposed year of birth (nor was it in '33). The only
Friday the 13th in 1932 was in MAY - and so ...
Well, at least that's the way I believe the simply-too-obscure-to-believe
birth date of 13 May, 1932 was made up. Of course I may be wrong, but
then there should be a more trustworthy source for it. In Sweden, that
piece of (des)information was printed in the foreword of "Jag, Kalle Anka"
(1973) - a large-sized book with many counterparts in other European countries.
It was written by Gunnar Oldin, a film expert, now dead since long. What I
am curious of is what is stated in other countries' versions of that book -
and particularly the first one, the Italian "Io Paperino".
Could anyone help me on this, please? Comments and views are, of course
also welcome. My own view is that the only relevant (real-world)
birthdays are the "first-published" (in print or in a film) ones.
Anything before that - and every character must of course 'exist' in some
sense before going public - I regard as part of the pregnancy.
Anders Berglund, Stockholm, Sweden
>
> <<Did Barks ever state, directly or indirectly, what was Scrooge's and/or
> Donald's birthdate ?>>
... to which Rick Morrissey commented:
>
> Not that I remember. However, THE THREE CABALLEROS (1945) took place on
> Donald's birthday, which was said to fall (that time) on Friday the 13th...so
> it might be worthwhile checking to see which months of (presumably) 1944 had
> the 13th fall on a Friday.
>
That, to conclude the line of reasoning, would make 13th October Donald's
birthday.
HOWEVER - I would like to continue the digression from the original question,
since the obscure "13 May, 1932" once again has appeared as Donald's
birthdate. It is stated in the calendar section of the Norwegian Donald
Duck weekly magazine's web site (www.donald.no), which opened the other
week. It is not yet seen in the Swedish and Danish counterparts. I feel
very disappointed with their phrasing, which goes something like "13 May,
1932, was Donald drawn for the first time. In spite of this, 9 June,
1934, is celebrated as his official birthday". Following Marcia Blitz in
her book "Donald Duck" (Harmony Books, 1979; ISBN 0-517-52961-0), when she
on page 14 ff. gives the only thourough and authoritative treating of the
matter of Donald's mythical origin that I know of, I call that "RUBBISH!".
Legend seems indeed to point out "Friday the 13th" as a fitting day of
birth for Donald, though rather a 13th MARCH. (His license plates' number,
313, fits well into this myth, too!)
I have no problem with accepting this; the problem is if you try to take
this fictitious birthdate in his duck universe as a REAL date of a supposed
creation. The first problem you then encounter is that March 13 was not a
Friday in 1932, the supposed year of birth (nor was it in '33). The only
Friday the 13th in 1932 was in MAY - and so ...
Well, at least that's the way I believe the simply-too-obscure-to-believe
birth date of 13 May, 1932 was made up. Of course I may be wrong, but
then there should be a more trustworthy source for it. In Sweden, that
piece of (des)information was printed in the foreword of "Jag, Kalle Anka"
(1973) - a large-sized book with many counterparts in other European countries.
It was written by Gunnar Oldin, a film expert, now dead since long. What I
am curious of is what is stated in other countries' versions of that book -
and particularly the first one, the Italian "Io Paperino".
Could anyone help me on this, please? Comments and views are, of course
also welcome. My own view is that the only relevant (real-world)
birthdays are the "first-published" (in print or in a film) ones.
Anything before that - and every character must of course 'exist' in some
sense before going public - I regard as part of the pregnancy.
Anders Berglund, Stockholm, Sweden
TKlein28
artist materials question
Message 129 -
1997-06-17 at 02:15:11
Sorry to put this non-Disney question here, but...
Are there any European members who use art supplies or might have a nearby
art supply store? I'd like to know if you see any Faber-Castell technical
drawing pens for sale. These are the kind with a thin metal tube that the ink
comes out of, not a fountain pen. I used them for many years, but they're no
longer available here, and my supply has run out. I'm getting by with
Kohinoor Rapidograph, but the design of the Faber Castell is much better for
my purposes.
Thanks for any information!
Todd
Are there any European members who use art supplies or might have a nearby
art supply store? I'd like to know if you see any Faber-Castell technical
drawing pens for sale. These are the kind with a thin metal tube that the ink
comes out of, not a fountain pen. I used them for many years, but they're no
longer available here, and my supply has run out. I'm getting by with
Kohinoor Rapidograph, but the design of the Faber Castell is much better for
my purposes.
Thanks for any information!
Todd
Cebarat
Disney comics Digest V97 #121
Message 130 -
1997-06-17 at 02:26:41
JOE TORCIVIA comments, regarding the "current sad state of American comics
distribution":
<<"Real-World" or traditional distribution IS drying up. The local coffee
shop
from which I bought comics in 1969 (...and which carried them, including
Disney's "Donald Duck Adventures", as late as 1991) no longer displays
comics
and hardly offers magazines of any kind. This is not just a blow to
Gladstone but to all publishers distributed through the newsstand system.
And this is far from an isolated incident!>>
Indeed, it is not! One common place to find "traditionally distributed"
American comics over the past four or five decades has been the small, local
grocery store or "convenience store." One of the leading "convenience store"
chains in this country is "7-11". During my youth, virtually every "7-11" I
entered had a "spin rack" filled with comics. This is no longer the case.
Large grocery stores do not seem to be interested in carrying comic-book
material unless it is in a format that can be easily displayed at the
check-out counter. The success of the "Disney Adventures" digest, even as
the Disney-related comic-book material within it has dwindled to the
vanishing point, is, in my opinion, largely attributable to the simple fact
that it is convenient to the shopper.
In the present climate, relying heavily on "newsstand distribution" is an
extremely questionable strategy, because the traditional "newsstand," like
the "spin rack" in the "7-11," is becoming harder and harder to find.
Old-style "newsstands" that carry comics still exist in the downtown areas
of large cities, but these places are not easily accessible to the suburban
youths who make up a large portion of the pool of potential comic-book
buyers. The lack of convenient public transportation and the ever-present
threat of crime combine to make trips to find these "hidden sanctuaries" an
often-questionable proposition. Ironically, the earliest direct-market
stores that I can remember ALSO tended to be located downtown. It may be
that these stores killed off a great many of the old "newsstand-comics" sites
when they first appeared, and then promptly migrated to the suburbs to find
customers with more disposable income, leaving a "vast wasteland" behind.
Aside from the specialty shops, the large bookstore chains such as Borders
Books, Barnes and Noble, Books-a-Million, and Waldenbooks are the most
convenient places to purchase comic books these days. These bookstores do
NOT tend to put Gladstone comics in a prominent location. This was
especially true in the days of the "paper cover" format. But even after the
covers returned, Gladstones still tended to get shoved into the back rows of
the display area. In order to shatter these patterns of arrangement and
persuade bookstore dealers to give Gladstone comics more prominence,
Gladstone covers have got to be CONSIDERABLY BETTER than the norm for comic
books. Under the present regime, quite simply, they haven't been (when
they've been there at all, that is).
JOE also remarks:
<<By the way, I fully expect some of you to lay blame for this on the
American
comics bying public and the American comics market - and we ARE INDEED
GUILTY of ignoring some simply superb comics just because they feature
talking
ducks, I won't deny that - but, in this instance, Gladstone policy only made
a bad situation worse!>>
Agreed. The problems stem from a wide variety of factors -- some exacerbated
by Gladstone, some beyond its control -- and will have to be addressed on a
broad front.
One way NOT to address them is to lay the lion's share of the blame at the
feet of the American Disney comics buyers who have been supporting Disney
comics all along. If there were ever any doubts that American Disney comics
supporters are the most fiercely loyal group of fans in comicdom, the fact
that many of them have continued to support Gladstone during the "paper
cover" debacle AND the ever-increasing reliance on "Gladstone Series I"
reprints should lay such doubts to rest.
-- Christopher E. Barat
(Email removed)
Homepage http://members.aol.com/cebarat/home.htm
"LAUNCHPAD! PUT DOWN THAT COMIC BOOK AND COMMENCE OPERATION ICE-TONGS!" --
Scrooge McDuck, "DuckTales" episode "Frozen Assets"
distribution":
<<"Real-World" or traditional distribution IS drying up. The local coffee
shop
from which I bought comics in 1969 (...and which carried them, including
Disney's "Donald Duck Adventures", as late as 1991) no longer displays
comics
and hardly offers magazines of any kind. This is not just a blow to
Gladstone but to all publishers distributed through the newsstand system.
And this is far from an isolated incident!>>
Indeed, it is not! One common place to find "traditionally distributed"
American comics over the past four or five decades has been the small, local
grocery store or "convenience store." One of the leading "convenience store"
chains in this country is "7-11". During my youth, virtually every "7-11" I
entered had a "spin rack" filled with comics. This is no longer the case.
Large grocery stores do not seem to be interested in carrying comic-book
material unless it is in a format that can be easily displayed at the
check-out counter. The success of the "Disney Adventures" digest, even as
the Disney-related comic-book material within it has dwindled to the
vanishing point, is, in my opinion, largely attributable to the simple fact
that it is convenient to the shopper.
In the present climate, relying heavily on "newsstand distribution" is an
extremely questionable strategy, because the traditional "newsstand," like
the "spin rack" in the "7-11," is becoming harder and harder to find.
Old-style "newsstands" that carry comics still exist in the downtown areas
of large cities, but these places are not easily accessible to the suburban
youths who make up a large portion of the pool of potential comic-book
buyers. The lack of convenient public transportation and the ever-present
threat of crime combine to make trips to find these "hidden sanctuaries" an
often-questionable proposition. Ironically, the earliest direct-market
stores that I can remember ALSO tended to be located downtown. It may be
that these stores killed off a great many of the old "newsstand-comics" sites
when they first appeared, and then promptly migrated to the suburbs to find
customers with more disposable income, leaving a "vast wasteland" behind.
Aside from the specialty shops, the large bookstore chains such as Borders
Books, Barnes and Noble, Books-a-Million, and Waldenbooks are the most
convenient places to purchase comic books these days. These bookstores do
NOT tend to put Gladstone comics in a prominent location. This was
especially true in the days of the "paper cover" format. But even after the
covers returned, Gladstones still tended to get shoved into the back rows of
the display area. In order to shatter these patterns of arrangement and
persuade bookstore dealers to give Gladstone comics more prominence,
Gladstone covers have got to be CONSIDERABLY BETTER than the norm for comic
books. Under the present regime, quite simply, they haven't been (when
they've been there at all, that is).
JOE also remarks:
<<By the way, I fully expect some of you to lay blame for this on the
American
comics bying public and the American comics market - and we ARE INDEED
GUILTY of ignoring some simply superb comics just because they feature
talking
ducks, I won't deny that - but, in this instance, Gladstone policy only made
a bad situation worse!>>
Agreed. The problems stem from a wide variety of factors -- some exacerbated
by Gladstone, some beyond its control -- and will have to be addressed on a
broad front.
One way NOT to address them is to lay the lion's share of the blame at the
feet of the American Disney comics buyers who have been supporting Disney
comics all along. If there were ever any doubts that American Disney comics
supporters are the most fiercely loyal group of fans in comicdom, the fact
that many of them have continued to support Gladstone during the "paper
cover" debacle AND the ever-increasing reliance on "Gladstone Series I"
reprints should lay such doubts to rest.
-- Christopher E. Barat
(Email removed)
Homepage http://members.aol.com/cebarat/home.htm
"LAUNCHPAD! PUT DOWN THAT COMIC BOOK AND COMMENCE OPERATION ICE-TONGS!" --
Scrooge McDuck, "DuckTales" episode "Frozen Assets"
Jonathan Markoff
Il famoso Erickson di Topolino
Message 131 -
1997-06-17 at 04:42:06
C'e' qui qualcuno d'Italia che puo' mandarmi i numeri pertinenti di TOPOLINO
colla famosa storia di Erickson e Cavazzano? In scambio, offro una selezione
di numeri americani, alcuni con certe storie di Rosa.
--Jonathan Markoff
"Io sar=F3 un pirata saraceno e lei...la mia schiava!"
--Marco Rota, "Paperino e la notte del saraceno"
colla famosa storia di Erickson e Cavazzano? In scambio, offro una selezione
di numeri americani, alcuni con certe storie di Rosa.
--Jonathan Markoff
"Io sar=F3 un pirata saraceno e lei...la mia schiava!"
--Marco Rota, "Paperino e la notte del saraceno"
Frank Fabian
Banach Theorem
Message 132 -
1997-06-17 at 09:29:43
CATO wrote:
>Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 17:34:09 +0200 (MET DST)
>From: Cato Tveit <(Email removed)>
>To: (Email removed)
>Subject: Banach Theorem
>
>I was told that there exist a story where Donald Duck list up a
>mathematic-theorem from the Banach-theory (after eating somting??). Do
>anyone know what story that was, and maybe where it was published (last
>time)?
>
>Cato
>
Enlighten us first, please; perhaps someone can help then. So what IS the
Banach theory or theorem? Most of us here are very likely not mathematicians.
Frank
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 13:32:33 +0200
From: "DIDIER GHEZ" <(Email removed)>
To: (Email removed)
Subject: $crooge in La Republica
Hi,
Would any of the Italians on the list be able to send me a copy of the
La Republica magazine that contains the article about the 50 years of
$crooge ?
I would, of course, be glad to send you a copy of Picsou 300 that
countains the special Don Rosa poster or something else if that does
not interest you.
Thanks in advance.
Didier
>Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 17:34:09 +0200 (MET DST)
>From: Cato Tveit <(Email removed)>
>To: (Email removed)
>Subject: Banach Theorem
>
>I was told that there exist a story where Donald Duck list up a
>mathematic-theorem from the Banach-theory (after eating somting??). Do
>anyone know what story that was, and maybe where it was published (last
>time)?
>
>Cato
>
Enlighten us first, please; perhaps someone can help then. So what IS the
Banach theory or theorem? Most of us here are very likely not mathematicians.
Frank
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Wuerttembergische Landesbibliothek Frank Fabian
Abt. Katalogisierung Periodika (KaP) Tel.: +49
711/212- 4383
Konrad-Adenauer Str. 8 / Postfach 10 54 41 Fax.: +49 711/212-4437
70173 Stuttgart / 70047 Stuttgart mail:
(Email removed)
WWW: http://www.wlb-stuttgart.de
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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 13:32:33 +0200
From: "DIDIER GHEZ" <(Email removed)>
To: (Email removed)
Subject: $crooge in La Republica
Hi,
Would any of the Italians on the list be able to send me a copy of the
La Republica magazine that contains the article about the 50 years of
$crooge ?
I would, of course, be glad to send you a copy of Picsou 300 that
countains the special Don Rosa poster or something else if that does
not interest you.
Thanks in advance.
Didier
RHODE
Watterson and syndication
Message 133 -
1997-06-17 at 16:54:57
Marc-Antione asked Don for his comments on syndicates and offered to post
the URL of a speech by Watterson. Well, I'm interested to see what Don, a
long-time comics historian, in addition to being a creator, will say. I'd
also like to see Watterson's speech, so if the URL could be posted...
Thanks,
Mike Rhode
the URL of a speech by Watterson. Well, I'm interested to see what Don, a
long-time comics historian, in addition to being a creator, will say. I'd
also like to see Watterson's speech, so if the URL could be posted...
Thanks,
Mike Rhode
Fredrik Sandstrom
Life and Times & Barksian facts
Message 134 -
1997-06-18 at 14:38:31
This is a question that Don Rosa should be able to answer!
In Barks' "The Golden River" Uncle Scrooge says that when he ran that
bank in the Klondike for three years, he used neither pencils nor
erasers. (I only have a Swedish translation so I can't quote.) But
when Scrooge is seen running that bank in "The Billionaire of Dismal
Downs", he holds a pencil in his hand! How come?
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| Fredrik Sandstrom | What a night! I'll never mix radish |
| (Email removed) | juice and carrot juice again! |
| http://www.compart.fi/~fred/ | - Bugs Bunny |
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End of Disney comics Digest V97 Issue #124
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In Barks' "The Golden River" Uncle Scrooge says that when he ran that
bank in the Klondike for three years, he used neither pencils nor
erasers. (I only have a Swedish translation so I can't quote.) But
when Scrooge is seen running that bank in "The Billionaire of Dismal
Downs", he holds a pencil in his hand! How come?
/------------------------------|-------------------------------------\
| Fredrik Sandstrom | What a night! I'll never mix radish |
| (Email removed) | juice and carrot juice again! |
| http://www.compart.fi/~fred/ | - Bugs Bunny |
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End of Disney comics Digest V97 Issue #124
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Don Rosa
Disney comics Digest V97 #124
Message 135 -
1997-06-18 at 15:46:29
EIRIK:
What "two" Duck Family Trees of mine are you referring to? I've only done
one. As someone mentioned, it usually is printed with a sidebar of Duck
"friends"... other famous Ducks that the publishers said *had* to be
included on the sheet or readers would be confused and disoriented.
There was a different family "tree", if you are, yourself, confused and
disoriented, but it was not by me. In 1990 Disney Comics editors were
quizzing me about my Tree (which I was still forming for the "Lo$") and I
was listing all the various members and where they appeared, etc. But
after several long sessions of descriptions, I believe they realized that
my Tree was too esoteric for mass consumption. Eventually they had Van Horn
draw a "family tree" for them which was an actual tree with Duck characters
sitting in it, whether they were related or not -- in other words,
Flintheart and Gyro and Magica and other non-related Ducks were peering
from the boughs.
FREDRIK:
Why didn't I have $crooge running his Klondike bank without pencils or
erasers in my "Lo$"? Are you referring to the Barks story where $crooge
says he kept bank records by etching a block of ice with a walrus tusk?
Wouldn't you say that was one of $crooge's "tall tales" (as in "obvious
fibs")? They don't even *have* walruses in the Klondike, and they only have
ice part of the year (not to mention he'd lose all his bank records every
spring!). There are other bits in old Barks stories where he has $crooge
telling what is obviously a "tall tale" to amuse or impress someone.
Another example is the story about it being so hot in Africa that the gold
was molten on the ground (I included that in the "Lo$", but I used it as a
"tall tale"). Or when he said his breath froze on his face into a huge
glacier, slid him down a hill and exposed gold veins. Or *especially* when
he said he sold roadmaps to Marco Polo!!!
EVERYONE:
This might be my last chance to answer questions until July. I'm going on
another trip... this one, not to some center of Duck fandom in Europe, but
to the back-country of Yosemite National Park. If I don't slip another
response to the next Digest in under the wire, I'll be back the first of
July.
What "two" Duck Family Trees of mine are you referring to? I've only done
one. As someone mentioned, it usually is printed with a sidebar of Duck
"friends"... other famous Ducks that the publishers said *had* to be
included on the sheet or readers would be confused and disoriented.
There was a different family "tree", if you are, yourself, confused and
disoriented, but it was not by me. In 1990 Disney Comics editors were
quizzing me about my Tree (which I was still forming for the "Lo$") and I
was listing all the various members and where they appeared, etc. But
after several long sessions of descriptions, I believe they realized that
my Tree was too esoteric for mass consumption. Eventually they had Van Horn
draw a "family tree" for them which was an actual tree with Duck characters
sitting in it, whether they were related or not -- in other words,
Flintheart and Gyro and Magica and other non-related Ducks were peering
from the boughs.
FREDRIK:
Why didn't I have $crooge running his Klondike bank without pencils or
erasers in my "Lo$"? Are you referring to the Barks story where $crooge
says he kept bank records by etching a block of ice with a walrus tusk?
Wouldn't you say that was one of $crooge's "tall tales" (as in "obvious
fibs")? They don't even *have* walruses in the Klondike, and they only have
ice part of the year (not to mention he'd lose all his bank records every
spring!). There are other bits in old Barks stories where he has $crooge
telling what is obviously a "tall tale" to amuse or impress someone.
Another example is the story about it being so hot in Africa that the gold
was molten on the ground (I included that in the "Lo$", but I used it as a
"tall tale"). Or when he said his breath froze on his face into a huge
glacier, slid him down a hill and exposed gold veins. Or *especially* when
he said he sold roadmaps to Marco Polo!!!
EVERYONE:
This might be my last chance to answer questions until July. I'm going on
another trip... this one, not to some center of Duck fandom in Europe, but
to the back-country of Yosemite National Park. If I don't slip another
response to the next Digest in under the wire, I'll be back the first of
July.