PAOLO "LUNA":
> I saw some Topolino with this kind of code:
> I 2157 1, I 2157 2, etc...
This is the current way of the Italian publisher to code their stories. In the
Database, these codes are "normalised" to "I TL 2157-A", "I TL 2157-B", etc.
We have done this in order to have one coding system for all Italian
stories.
OSSI:
> Is there any FanClub for Don Rosa-fans?
Not that I know of (or: "None of which I know"). But at times, this mailing
list looks like one big Don Rosa fan club... 8-)
--Harry.
Author
Topic: 199706
(255 messages)
Harry Fluks
Italian codes / Rosa fan club
Message 211 -
1997-06-25 at 19:25:50
Dave Rawson
Correction
Message 212 -
1997-06-26 at 00:14:41
ALL:
Appologies for my weary late-night conflation of achievements. More
properly, I've written 100+ stories, more than 70 of which have been
with Disney characters.
--
riverrun past Eve's and Adam's from swerve of shore to bend of bay
(Email removed) -=*=- http://users.aol.com/dcrawson/home.htm
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Appologies for my weary late-night conflation of achievements. More
properly, I've written 100+ stories, more than 70 of which have been
with Disney characters.
--
riverrun past Eve's and Adam's from swerve of shore to bend of bay
(Email removed) -=*=- http://users.aol.com/dcrawson/home.htm
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OSSI
Don Rosa
Message 213 -
1997-06-26 at 03:19:00
I was just wondering...: Is there any FanClub for Don Rosa-fans?
If there is I hope somebody could give me some information of that and how to
join in..
-Ossi Pietik?inen
e-mail: (Email removed)
If there is I hope somebody could give me some information of that and how to
join in..
-Ossi Pietik?inen
e-mail: (Email removed)
Marco Barlotti
Italian story codes.
Message 214 -
1997-06-26 at 12:40:17
Apologies for answering late. In these weeks I shall often be out of town
-and unreachable by e-mail :-(
PER:
>
>What common ways of writing Italian codes are there? If no
>designation is made of what the book is, it's always Topolino,
>so "I 1234" = "I-1234" = "I TL 1234".
>
>And "A" or "AT" both means Almanacco Topolino, right? (So
>"I AT-17" = "I A-17" = "I-AT 17" = "I-A 17".) And in all cases it
>could be "J" instead of "I". Are there any other popular ways of
>writing Italian codes that I ought to take care of?
>
>
>I leave your question about Italian story codes to Marco Barlotti: he knows
>a lot more about that than I do.
>
>--Harry.
>
We have now an agreement with Harry about the codes to be used in the
internal format of the data base for Italian stories. But, of course, this
is not what you want to know. You want to know what codes can APPEAR on the
splash panel of the stories, is that right? Because people search for the
stories looking at that code.
Now, this is really a complex matter for Italian codes, because
Mondadori/Disney have often been largely inconsistent in putting their codes
in the splash panels.
At the beginning, there were no codes at all. Well, of course this is
world-wide true.
Then (I couldn't say now when) they started putting a (J) in the splash
panels of Italian stories. In fact I guess it should have been a capital "I"
(inside a circle) but in fact it looks like a J. This gives no information
on the story itself (apart from declaring it Italian; the same was
accomplished earlier by putting near the title a "shield" with "A.M."
inside: this I guess you can't see in other editions because the title part
gets changed!).
So came codes at last. In the late 70's they didn't distinguish between
"Topolino" and "Almanacco Topolino" and used for both the code I-n-x where
"n" is the issue number and "x" is a letter. Of course you can tell whether
it's "Topolino" or "Almanacco Topolino" by the number: "I-245-A" is the
first Italian story of issue #245 of "Almanacco Topolino" (**strongly**
recommended for reading!!!), while "I-1128-A" is the first Italian story of
issue #1128 of "Topolino" (excellent story altogether, one of the few
written by Castelli, the infamous inventor of Al Levin...). It just CAN'T be
the other way around: because "Almanacco Topolino" never reached issue
#1128, and on the other side "Topolino" #245 was published in the year 1960
when the DIDN'T put codes on the stories.
[
Well... not so right after all. The code I-245-A **might** after all denote
a story from "Topolino" in case it was added when the story was being
REPRINTED !!! Read further for this.
]
Later on, I can't now check exactly when, "they" started to put different
codes in comics other than "Topolino" (they still use I-n-x for "Topolino"
now in 1997...). BUT! They were largely inconsistent, and on "Almanacco
Toolino" they sometimes used "I-A-n-x" and some other times "I-AT-n-x"
(although right now I can't remember instances of this last use, so I might
be wrong).
Eventually, they suppressed the "x" part; so, to make things more
complicated, a large number of stories have a code that does **not**
uniquely identify them (all the stories in the same issue carry the same code).
But the worst came when they started putting codes on stories WHEN
REPRINTING them. This was full anarchy!
Imagine an Italian story published in the December 1961 issue of "Almanacco
Topolino". The official ("registered") name was then "Albi d'Oro", but the
large caption on the cover said "Almanacco Topolino". Suppose this story
gets reprinted, say, in "Super Almanacco Paperino" #55; the story hasn't a
code in the splash panel, but they want to put one on now, for the reprint.
The might put:
I-AO-12-1961-A (AO of course stands for "Albi d'Oro")
I-Ad'O-12-1961-A
I-AT-60-A (no, they wouldn't use this althought it would be the most
reasonable one!)
but maybe at the end they put
I-SAP-55-A
so when the story gets reprinted again, say in "Paperino Mese" #118, it will
still carry the code I-SAP-55-A, and foreign reprints too will carry that
code. But in "our" database, of course, it will be I-AT-60-A.
Look: I just made up this example, but I know FOR SURE that this has
happened often: there are instances of codes of the first kind, instances of
the second kind, and often it goes like I imagined now.
They even did worse! I have spotted a Tony Strobl story which appeared in an
early issue of "Topolino" and when reprinted was given the code I-n !!!!!
This has been too long, and you will be glad to know me away for a couple of
weeks ;-)
As a summary, I can say:
TO EVERYBODY - hold on, we agreed wit Harry and Frank and Ole and everybody
who's working at the Italian part of the database that **eventually** there
shall be a [:code] field where we put the code that actually appears on the
splash panel, BUT it will NOT be an easy job!!!
TO PER - what I can suggest for now is that you accept the J instead of I
(but it's alwas an "I" when there is an issue number, as far as I remember
now!) like you already now do. But I-n codes with n between 200 and 350 will
however cause trouble because the might come from "Alamancco Topolino"
(being the original code) or from "Topolino" (being the code added when
reprinted!).
Marco
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it
-and unreachable by e-mail :-(
PER:
>
>What common ways of writing Italian codes are there? If no
>designation is made of what the book is, it's always Topolino,
>so "I 1234" = "I-1234" = "I TL 1234".
>
>And "A" or "AT" both means Almanacco Topolino, right? (So
>"I AT-17" = "I A-17" = "I-AT 17" = "I-A 17".) And in all cases it
>could be "J" instead of "I". Are there any other popular ways of
>writing Italian codes that I ought to take care of?
>
>
>I leave your question about Italian story codes to Marco Barlotti: he knows
>a lot more about that than I do.
>
>--Harry.
>
We have now an agreement with Harry about the codes to be used in the
internal format of the data base for Italian stories. But, of course, this
is not what you want to know. You want to know what codes can APPEAR on the
splash panel of the stories, is that right? Because people search for the
stories looking at that code.
Now, this is really a complex matter for Italian codes, because
Mondadori/Disney have often been largely inconsistent in putting their codes
in the splash panels.
At the beginning, there were no codes at all. Well, of course this is
world-wide true.
Then (I couldn't say now when) they started putting a (J) in the splash
panels of Italian stories. In fact I guess it should have been a capital "I"
(inside a circle) but in fact it looks like a J. This gives no information
on the story itself (apart from declaring it Italian; the same was
accomplished earlier by putting near the title a "shield" with "A.M."
inside: this I guess you can't see in other editions because the title part
gets changed!).
So came codes at last. In the late 70's they didn't distinguish between
"Topolino" and "Almanacco Topolino" and used for both the code I-n-x where
"n" is the issue number and "x" is a letter. Of course you can tell whether
it's "Topolino" or "Almanacco Topolino" by the number: "I-245-A" is the
first Italian story of issue #245 of "Almanacco Topolino" (**strongly**
recommended for reading!!!), while "I-1128-A" is the first Italian story of
issue #1128 of "Topolino" (excellent story altogether, one of the few
written by Castelli, the infamous inventor of Al Levin...). It just CAN'T be
the other way around: because "Almanacco Topolino" never reached issue
#1128, and on the other side "Topolino" #245 was published in the year 1960
when the DIDN'T put codes on the stories.
[
Well... not so right after all. The code I-245-A **might** after all denote
a story from "Topolino" in case it was added when the story was being
REPRINTED !!! Read further for this.
]
Later on, I can't now check exactly when, "they" started to put different
codes in comics other than "Topolino" (they still use I-n-x for "Topolino"
now in 1997...). BUT! They were largely inconsistent, and on "Almanacco
Toolino" they sometimes used "I-A-n-x" and some other times "I-AT-n-x"
(although right now I can't remember instances of this last use, so I might
be wrong).
Eventually, they suppressed the "x" part; so, to make things more
complicated, a large number of stories have a code that does **not**
uniquely identify them (all the stories in the same issue carry the same code).
But the worst came when they started putting codes on stories WHEN
REPRINTING them. This was full anarchy!
Imagine an Italian story published in the December 1961 issue of "Almanacco
Topolino". The official ("registered") name was then "Albi d'Oro", but the
large caption on the cover said "Almanacco Topolino". Suppose this story
gets reprinted, say, in "Super Almanacco Paperino" #55; the story hasn't a
code in the splash panel, but they want to put one on now, for the reprint.
The might put:
I-AO-12-1961-A (AO of course stands for "Albi d'Oro")
I-Ad'O-12-1961-A
I-AT-60-A (no, they wouldn't use this althought it would be the most
reasonable one!)
but maybe at the end they put
I-SAP-55-A
so when the story gets reprinted again, say in "Paperino Mese" #118, it will
still carry the code I-SAP-55-A, and foreign reprints too will carry that
code. But in "our" database, of course, it will be I-AT-60-A.
Look: I just made up this example, but I know FOR SURE that this has
happened often: there are instances of codes of the first kind, instances of
the second kind, and often it goes like I imagined now.
They even did worse! I have spotted a Tony Strobl story which appeared in an
early issue of "Topolino" and when reprinted was given the code I-n !!!!!
This has been too long, and you will be glad to know me away for a couple of
weeks ;-)
As a summary, I can say:
TO EVERYBODY - hold on, we agreed wit Harry and Frank and Ole and everybody
who's working at the Italian part of the database that **eventually** there
shall be a [:code] field where we put the code that actually appears on the
splash panel, BUT it will NOT be an easy job!!!
TO PER - what I can suggest for now is that you accept the J instead of I
(but it's alwas an "I" when there is an issue number, as far as I remember
now!) like you already now do. But I-n codes with n between 200 and 350 will
however cause trouble because the might come from "Alamancco Topolino"
(being the original code) or from "Topolino" (being the code added when
reprinted!).
Marco
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it
Marco Barlotti
Data Base story search.
Message 215 -
1997-06-26 at 12:55:43
A brief case study.
"Topolino e la dimensione Delta" appeared for the first time in "Topolino" #206.
When searching the database via Per's interactive WWW search, I get the
following results:
<search for "dimensione">
I get the correct story and four more: Two with the word "dimensione" in the
title, but two other ones ("Zio Paperone e il regno dell'oro", "Topolino nei
guai") with no apparent reason!!! (In fact, the word "dimensione" appears in
Fossati's comment, so it seems that the search is done not only on the
tiltle but on the other fields too... Maybe it's not a bad thing after all!)
<search for the code I 206>
I get the following message:
No such items were found. Maybe what you are looking for is missing from the
database.
<search for the code I 206 A>
I get the same message
<serch for the code I TL 206 A>
I get the message "unknown code I TL", and this is not nice to me and Harry
;-)
Per, do you think this can be somehow fixed?
Marco
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it
"Topolino e la dimensione Delta" appeared for the first time in "Topolino" #206.
When searching the database via Per's interactive WWW search, I get the
following results:
<search for "dimensione">
I get the correct story and four more: Two with the word "dimensione" in the
title, but two other ones ("Zio Paperone e il regno dell'oro", "Topolino nei
guai") with no apparent reason!!! (In fact, the word "dimensione" appears in
Fossati's comment, so it seems that the search is done not only on the
tiltle but on the other fields too... Maybe it's not a bad thing after all!)
<search for the code I 206>
I get the following message:
No such items were found. Maybe what you are looking for is missing from the
database.
<search for the code I 206 A>
I get the same message
<serch for the code I TL 206 A>
I get the message "unknown code I TL", and this is not nice to me and Harry
;-)
Per, do you think this can be somehow fixed?
Marco
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it
JTorci3511
Disney comics Digest V97 #130
Message 216 -
1997-06-26 at 15:25:54
In Disney comics Digest V97 #130, Wilmer Rivers writes:
<< Protestors might refuse to patronize supermarkets
or book stores carrying such obvious symbols of the Disney empire [American
Disney comic books].
Now considering how marginal the market is, what would be a grocery
store owner's response to a letter from a church group asking him to
stop selling Disney comics? There's so little profit in selling those
anyway (in the USA), that most merchants would easily decide that
continuing to sell them is more trouble than it's worth. >>
Yes, of course it COULD happen... but first, the protestors would HAVE TO
FIND a store which carries American Disney comics!!! <Sarcastic Smile>
I think we and our "well-kept secret" will be safe for some time to come!
Joe Torcivia.
<< Protestors might refuse to patronize supermarkets
or book stores carrying such obvious symbols of the Disney empire [American
Disney comic books].
Now considering how marginal the market is, what would be a grocery
store owner's response to a letter from a church group asking him to
stop selling Disney comics? There's so little profit in selling those
anyway (in the USA), that most merchants would easily decide that
continuing to sell them is more trouble than it's worth. >>
Yes, of course it COULD happen... but first, the protestors would HAVE TO
FIND a store which carries American Disney comics!!! <Sarcastic Smile>
I think we and our "well-kept secret" will be safe for some time to come!
Joe Torcivia.
Anonima Fumetti G.Goria
To Fluks & Starback on Disney Database
Message 217 -
1997-06-26 at 17:03:33
Hi Friends!
This info is for the Disney Comics Database. We (Anonima Fumetti
http://www.alpcom.it/fumetti/) have a page in our website about all the
following Italian Disney Creators you can link in the database.
A few of them are in english & in italian. Some of them already have
images. The others will have in the future.
***
Luciano Bottaro: http://www.alpcom.it/fumetti/bottaro.htm
Giovan Battista Carpi: http://www.alpcom.it/fumetti/carpi.htm
Alfredo Castelli: http://www.alpcom.it/fumetti/castelli.htm
Giorgio Cavazzano: http://www.alpcom.it/fumetti/cavaz.htm
Carlo Chendi: http://www.alpcom.it/fumetti/chendi.htm
Giulio Chierchini: http://www.alpcom.it/fumetti/chierchi.htm
Gian Giacomo Dalmasso: http://www.alpcom.it/fumetti/dalmasso.htm
Massimo De Vita: http://www.alpcom.it/fumetti/devita.htm
Pier Lorenzo De Vita: http://www.alpcom.it/fumetti/devitapl.htm
Gianfranco Goria: http://www.alpcom.it/fumetti/goria.htm
Guido Martina: http://www.alpcom.it/fumetti/martina.htm
Federico Pedrocchi: http://www.alpcom.it/fumetti/pedrocch.htm
Fabrizio Petrossi: http://www.alpcom.it/fumetti/petrossi.htm
Giorgio Rebuffi: http://www.alpcom.it/fumetti/rebuffi.htm
Nino Russo: http://www.alpcom.it/fumetti/russo.htm
Bruno Sarda: http://www.alpcom.it/fumetti/sarda.htm
Romano Scarpa: http://www.alpcom.it/fumetti/scarpa.htm
Claudio Sciarrone: http://www.alpcom.it/fumetti/sciarron.htm
Giampiero Ubezio: http://www.alpcom.it/fumetti/ubezio.htm
***
Bye!
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This info is for the Disney Comics Database. We (Anonima Fumetti
http://www.alpcom.it/fumetti/) have a page in our website about all the
following Italian Disney Creators you can link in the database.
A few of them are in english & in italian. Some of them already have
images. The others will have in the future.
***
Luciano Bottaro: http://www.alpcom.it/fumetti/bottaro.htm
Giovan Battista Carpi: http://www.alpcom.it/fumetti/carpi.htm
Alfredo Castelli: http://www.alpcom.it/fumetti/castelli.htm
Giorgio Cavazzano: http://www.alpcom.it/fumetti/cavaz.htm
Carlo Chendi: http://www.alpcom.it/fumetti/chendi.htm
Giulio Chierchini: http://www.alpcom.it/fumetti/chierchi.htm
Gian Giacomo Dalmasso: http://www.alpcom.it/fumetti/dalmasso.htm
Massimo De Vita: http://www.alpcom.it/fumetti/devita.htm
Pier Lorenzo De Vita: http://www.alpcom.it/fumetti/devitapl.htm
Gianfranco Goria: http://www.alpcom.it/fumetti/goria.htm
Guido Martina: http://www.alpcom.it/fumetti/martina.htm
Federico Pedrocchi: http://www.alpcom.it/fumetti/pedrocch.htm
Fabrizio Petrossi: http://www.alpcom.it/fumetti/petrossi.htm
Giorgio Rebuffi: http://www.alpcom.it/fumetti/rebuffi.htm
Nino Russo: http://www.alpcom.it/fumetti/russo.htm
Bruno Sarda: http://www.alpcom.it/fumetti/sarda.htm
Romano Scarpa: http://www.alpcom.it/fumetti/scarpa.htm
Claudio Sciarrone: http://www.alpcom.it/fumetti/sciarron.htm
Giampiero Ubezio: http://www.alpcom.it/fumetti/ubezio.htm
***
Bye!
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AAPRKenM
Disney comics Digest V97 #131
Message 218 -
1997-06-26 at 18:38:38
I guess that many of you don't realize how good you have it. We haven't had
any Disney comic books in the groceries or drug stores for several years. On
the other hand, I'm on standing order from a comic book store and get them in
plastic bags for 10% less than cover. Never worry about missing one.
any Disney comic books in the groceries or drug stores for several years. On
the other hand, I'm on standing order from a comic book store and get them in
plastic bags for 10% less than cover. Never worry about missing one.
Jonathan Markoff
Merry Olde England
Message 219 -
1997-06-26 at 18:51:58
Reading list archives from the past years, I have found various horror
stories regarding the editors' butchering of Barks, Rosa, and Van Horn
stories. In later digests, though, I have seen evidence that this is no
longer the case. Can anyone confirm the rumors. and/or tell me info on how
to order?
--Jonathan Markoff
"Maybe I've been selected to fly a load of go-go girls to Fiji!"
--Carl Barks, "Pawns of the Loup Garou"
stories regarding the editors' butchering of Barks, Rosa, and Van Horn
stories. In later digests, though, I have seen evidence that this is no
longer the case. Can anyone confirm the rumors. and/or tell me info on how
to order?
--Jonathan Markoff
"Maybe I've been selected to fly a load of go-go girls to Fiji!"
--Carl Barks, "Pawns of the Loup Garou"
Gary Leach
Disney comics Digest V97 #131
Message 220 -
1997-06-26 at 21:02:12
Shaun wrote, re Gladstone:
>The return to glossy covers is a good sign, where the boycott
>could be a bad sign...or could it?
The boycott itself is unlikely to affect Gladstone much, other than by what
damage it may do to newsstand circulation of comics in general. That
grocery store or drugstore owner who may get harrassed for carrying Disney
comics will, if persuaded to ditch the Disneys, very likely just kick all
comics out of the store and be done with it.
These boycotts by special interests (the SBC is just one more of these,
large as it is) aren't focused and disciplined enough to hit the big
bullseye; they really only hit small, immediate, and usually innocent
targets. The big targets know this, that's why they use such actions as an
excuse to get all huffed up and slap their lesser divisions and licensees
around a bit. Very cathartic.
Christian wrote:
>GLADSTONE:
>
>Are you still selling comic books to Argentina? If so, could you
>please name the distributor so I can go get them?
You'll need to contact Diamond Distributing.
Gary
****************************
"I've got blistahs on my fingahs!" - Ringo Starr
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Gladstone on the Web: http://www.hamlco.com/bhc/
---------------------------------------------------------------------
>The return to glossy covers is a good sign, where the boycott
>could be a bad sign...or could it?
The boycott itself is unlikely to affect Gladstone much, other than by what
damage it may do to newsstand circulation of comics in general. That
grocery store or drugstore owner who may get harrassed for carrying Disney
comics will, if persuaded to ditch the Disneys, very likely just kick all
comics out of the store and be done with it.
These boycotts by special interests (the SBC is just one more of these,
large as it is) aren't focused and disciplined enough to hit the big
bullseye; they really only hit small, immediate, and usually innocent
targets. The big targets know this, that's why they use such actions as an
excuse to get all huffed up and slap their lesser divisions and licensees
around a bit. Very cathartic.
Christian wrote:
>GLADSTONE:
>
>Are you still selling comic books to Argentina? If so, could you
>please name the distributor so I can go get them?
You'll need to contact Diamond Distributing.
Gary
****************************
"I've got blistahs on my fingahs!" - Ringo Starr
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Gladstone on the Web: http://www.hamlco.com/bhc/
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Harry Fluks
Data Base story search / Italiano
Message 221 -
1997-06-26 at 23:25:28
MARCO:
> <serch for the code I TL 206 A>
> I get the message "unknown code I TL", and this is not nice to me and Harry
> ;-)
You are not being nice to Per! 8-) He only knows about our code definitions
for a few days, so please give him some time to adjust his programs!
(BTW, the search utility on Per's web pages probably still uses the January
database version.)
JAKOB:
> Is there anyone who can supply me with a xerox of "Of Ducks and Dimes",
> page 5 in *Italian*?
Now you also have to tell us WHY you're interested in that particular page!
--Harry.
> <serch for the code I TL 206 A>
> I get the message "unknown code I TL", and this is not nice to me and Harry
> ;-)
You are not being nice to Per! 8-) He only knows about our code definitions
for a few days, so please give him some time to adjust his programs!
(BTW, the search utility on Per's web pages probably still uses the January
database version.)
JAKOB:
> Is there anyone who can supply me with a xerox of "Of Ducks and Dimes",
> page 5 in *Italian*?
Now you also have to tell us WHY you're interested in that particular page!
--Harry.
Jakob Soederbaum
Italiano...
Message 222 -
1997-06-27 at 00:51:48
Is there anyone who can supply me with a xerox of "Of Ducks and Dimes",
page 5 in *Italian*?
Let me know...
---
/Jakob
page 5 in *Italian*?
Let me know...
---
/Jakob
Jakob Soederbaum
Stuff...
Message 223 -
1997-06-27 at 03:45:39
SUSAN wrote to Eirik:
> Secondly, if you can read the stories in the comics and albums, you can
> read the credits. All of them. The colorist for the US edition of LOS
> was/is me, Susan Daigle-Leach. You can call me Sue, Susan, Mrs. G,
> Production Manager From Hell or Empress of the Known Universe, but I don't
> like being called "the colorist" or "whoever. " I'm a real, breathing-type
> person and I like being treated like one. Thanks.
Pardon me for interfering, but what's the *actual* term of your job if not
"colorist"? If someone doesn't have the credits fresh in mind I'd say the
using of "colorist" to explain whom we are talking about is quite accurate.
Everyone has and has right to declare their own pride, but I sure hope
you're not carrying the feared melanie-syndrom...
> (If the opinion of a mere colorist/production manager doesn't sway you,
> bear in mind that Art Director Gary Leach and Editor John Calrk have even
> more familiararity and experience with these characters and they had no
> problem whatsoever with Scrooge's hair color being other than white.)
In *my* opinion $crooge would've looked quite dull if his hair hadn't been
colored. I think it looks good.
> As to the nephews, (and it's "Huey", not "Hewey," by the way)
Details...
> Does every caucasian person you know have the same
> color hair?
That's *hair color*. ;-)
> In regards to the Great Scrooge Hair Scandal itself, here's the scoop:
Very interesting reading! :)
JONATHAN:
> BTW, there's one angle that I'm surprised noone's pointed out so far: Donald
> lives in 1955, whereas Mickey lives in, what, 1935?
I always felt that the van Horn Duck stories were present?
TODD:
> Thanks for the response about the pens.
I didn't think I'd be the *only* one! I'm surprised...
> Yes, it would be called Faber-Castell
> Technical Pen, and comes in a variety of line weights. It also has a number,
> "TG1-S". But first see if they are still available, then I'll email you
> privately to see if we can work out a way for me to pay you to buy me some.
I'll ask them about it tomorrow or early next week.
FRANK:
> So, Jacob,
That's Jakob, mon.
> it ought to be clear now that no one who reads this book will
> ever think that your index was a rip-off of this;
I'll print a T-shirt with the translation... ;-)
> instead, I think you
> deserve to rejoice for having taken part in this world-wide cooperation
> among fans that, besides the satisfaction in itself, earned you and a few
> others the little moment of glory of having your name in print in the first
> book about Don.
Yes, it's one of the first time my name appears in a real book! And on
Don's right side! Heh! That's *something*! ;-) I really appreciate your
efforts... :)
OSSI:
> I was just wondering...: Is there any FanClub for Don Rosa-fans?
No need to since the guru is here!
HARRY:
>> I snapped mentions
>> about publications in my surroundings, tracked down the issue and indexed it. That's
>> how I work, I wouldn't trust anyone else on this point. ;-)
>
> In that case, it's *impossible* to have a complete index!
Did you find it incomplete last time you checked it?
See ya!
---
/JaKob
> Secondly, if you can read the stories in the comics and albums, you can
> read the credits. All of them. The colorist for the US edition of LOS
> was/is me, Susan Daigle-Leach. You can call me Sue, Susan, Mrs. G,
> Production Manager From Hell or Empress of the Known Universe, but I don't
> like being called "the colorist" or "whoever. " I'm a real, breathing-type
> person and I like being treated like one. Thanks.
Pardon me for interfering, but what's the *actual* term of your job if not
"colorist"? If someone doesn't have the credits fresh in mind I'd say the
using of "colorist" to explain whom we are talking about is quite accurate.
Everyone has and has right to declare their own pride, but I sure hope
you're not carrying the feared melanie-syndrom...
> (If the opinion of a mere colorist/production manager doesn't sway you,
> bear in mind that Art Director Gary Leach and Editor John Calrk have even
> more familiararity and experience with these characters and they had no
> problem whatsoever with Scrooge's hair color being other than white.)
In *my* opinion $crooge would've looked quite dull if his hair hadn't been
colored. I think it looks good.
> As to the nephews, (and it's "Huey", not "Hewey," by the way)
Details...
> Does every caucasian person you know have the same
> color hair?
That's *hair color*. ;-)
> In regards to the Great Scrooge Hair Scandal itself, here's the scoop:
Very interesting reading! :)
JONATHAN:
> BTW, there's one angle that I'm surprised noone's pointed out so far: Donald
> lives in 1955, whereas Mickey lives in, what, 1935?
I always felt that the van Horn Duck stories were present?
TODD:
> Thanks for the response about the pens.
I didn't think I'd be the *only* one! I'm surprised...
> Yes, it would be called Faber-Castell
> Technical Pen, and comes in a variety of line weights. It also has a number,
> "TG1-S". But first see if they are still available, then I'll email you
> privately to see if we can work out a way for me to pay you to buy me some.
I'll ask them about it tomorrow or early next week.
FRANK:
> So, Jacob,
That's Jakob, mon.
> it ought to be clear now that no one who reads this book will
> ever think that your index was a rip-off of this;
I'll print a T-shirt with the translation... ;-)
> instead, I think you
> deserve to rejoice for having taken part in this world-wide cooperation
> among fans that, besides the satisfaction in itself, earned you and a few
> others the little moment of glory of having your name in print in the first
> book about Don.
Yes, it's one of the first time my name appears in a real book! And on
Don's right side! Heh! That's *something*! ;-) I really appreciate your
efforts... :)
OSSI:
> I was just wondering...: Is there any FanClub for Don Rosa-fans?
No need to since the guru is here!
HARRY:
>> I snapped mentions
>> about publications in my surroundings, tracked down the issue and indexed it. That's
>> how I work, I wouldn't trust anyone else on this point. ;-)
>
> In that case, it's *impossible* to have a complete index!
Did you find it incomplete last time you checked it?
See ya!
---
/JaKob
Frank Fabian
Ich, Donald Duck & Banach
Message 224 -
1997-06-27 at 09:08:36
Anders:
I don't have a copy of "Io, Paperino", but I do have the German "Ich, Donald
Duck" (2 vols., edition for the Bertelsmann Buchclub, 1984) and the American
"Donald Duck" (Abbeville Press, NY, 1978). The German forewords are
uncredited and do not mention any creation date of Donald at all, just his
first appearance in 1934 in "The Wise Little Hen". The American foreword is
by Carl Barks and also doesn't mention any specific date whatsoever. So, no
luck for you there.
Cato:
After looking for the requested appearance of the Banach theorem, I came up
with a blank. I thought it could be in "Donald in Mathmagic Land", but no
such luck. Sorry I can't help here either.
Best regards, Frank
I don't have a copy of "Io, Paperino", but I do have the German "Ich, Donald
Duck" (2 vols., edition for the Bertelsmann Buchclub, 1984) and the American
"Donald Duck" (Abbeville Press, NY, 1978). The German forewords are
uncredited and do not mention any creation date of Donald at all, just his
first appearance in 1934 in "The Wise Little Hen". The American foreword is
by Carl Barks and also doesn't mention any specific date whatsoever. So, no
luck for you there.
Cato:
After looking for the requested appearance of the Banach theorem, I came up
with a blank. I thought it could be in "Donald in Mathmagic Land", but no
such luck. Sorry I can't help here either.
Best regards, Frank
Cristian Lucas
PICSOU Magazines
Message 225 -
1997-06-27 at 13:32:21
Hello List! I just bought two PICSOU magazines, that's Scrooge's name
in France. I don't speak French but I was able to enjoy the magazines
even so :) and I have some comments & remarks I'd like to share with
you:
About "LA CREATURE DU MARAIS PERDU" (code AR 216), by William Van
Horn:
* Donald goes to an auction, where he buys a small spanish closed
box, hoping that it will contain something valuable, to be given to
Daisy on her birthday. One of the objects displayed at the auction
is a "hand-made warrior stick" which I'm sure I've seen on another
story, it's like a baseball bat and it has carvings. Does anybody
recognize this?
* On the same story we get an over-the-shoulder peek at the
woodchuck manual's pages... ;)
* On the final one-pager story (code F. PM. 96307.G) all three
nephews have red caps! Besides, a woman speaks to Scrooge to say that
"five years old or younger are admitted for free", and she opens her
hand to signal "five"... too bad she has four fingers on her hand :)
On the second PICSOU mag, there are two Barks stories:
CHA-CHA-CHA A NOEL (code XMP. 26.)
* On this one, we get to see talking bulls and bears as
billionaires, together with the usual pigs (first time I saw those
animals used by Barks...)
* On page 8, panel 8, Scrooge is on the floor looking much like
Donald because Barks didn't draw his sideburns! :)
* Page 9, panel five, we have two nephews bumping into each other and
the third on the floor, this kind of scene was discussed not long ago
on the list :)
* Page 13, panel 5: a sign on the wall says "WANTED - Dangerous
outlaw" and there's a face very similar to Robert Crumb's
self-portraits... ????
AU PAYS DES PYGMEES (code WR. U.S. 18.)
* Page 23, panel 7: among the fantasy mineral names used by Scrooge
(Columbium, Toutenium, Patatium, Tralalium) there's a real one,
Zirconium... this is the name of the artificial diamonds.
BTW is there a Don Rosa sequel to this story?
And in general, I find the nephews' french names (Riri, Fifi, Loulou)
quite feminine, if you ask me... and Duckburg translated as
Donaldville, I found that very amusing :)))
Happy duckin'!
# Cristian Lucas
# From Buenos Aires, Argentina
in France. I don't speak French but I was able to enjoy the magazines
even so :) and I have some comments & remarks I'd like to share with
you:
About "LA CREATURE DU MARAIS PERDU" (code AR 216), by William Van
Horn:
* Donald goes to an auction, where he buys a small spanish closed
box, hoping that it will contain something valuable, to be given to
Daisy on her birthday. One of the objects displayed at the auction
is a "hand-made warrior stick" which I'm sure I've seen on another
story, it's like a baseball bat and it has carvings. Does anybody
recognize this?
* On the same story we get an over-the-shoulder peek at the
woodchuck manual's pages... ;)
* On the final one-pager story (code F. PM. 96307.G) all three
nephews have red caps! Besides, a woman speaks to Scrooge to say that
"five years old or younger are admitted for free", and she opens her
hand to signal "five"... too bad she has four fingers on her hand :)
On the second PICSOU mag, there are two Barks stories:
CHA-CHA-CHA A NOEL (code XMP. 26.)
* On this one, we get to see talking bulls and bears as
billionaires, together with the usual pigs (first time I saw those
animals used by Barks...)
* On page 8, panel 8, Scrooge is on the floor looking much like
Donald because Barks didn't draw his sideburns! :)
* Page 9, panel five, we have two nephews bumping into each other and
the third on the floor, this kind of scene was discussed not long ago
on the list :)
* Page 13, panel 5: a sign on the wall says "WANTED - Dangerous
outlaw" and there's a face very similar to Robert Crumb's
self-portraits... ????
AU PAYS DES PYGMEES (code WR. U.S. 18.)
* Page 23, panel 7: among the fantasy mineral names used by Scrooge
(Columbium, Toutenium, Patatium, Tralalium) there's a real one,
Zirconium... this is the name of the artificial diamonds.
BTW is there a Don Rosa sequel to this story?
And in general, I find the nephews' french names (Riri, Fifi, Loulou)
quite feminine, if you ask me... and Duckburg translated as
Donaldville, I found that very amusing :)))
Happy duckin'!
# Cristian Lucas
# From Buenos Aires, Argentina