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Timo,

>>the language
>>used in those stories by Chendi & Bottaro is sort of a parody of the
>>"aulic" Italian
>
>I haven't seen this term "aulic" too often, and to be honest, I don't know
>exactly what it means.

Aulic = of or relating to a court/aula, from the Greek aule + ikos

It defines a type of language used by nobles and other high rank people,
very elaborate, formal and "learned", as opposed to the "vulgar" spoken
by commoners, but it also extends, in modern use, to describe something
obsolete and pretentious.

>But did they (Chendi & Bottaro) use
>rhymes? (well, with rhymes it wouldn't be prose?)

No, in fact. It's declamatory, but not rhyming.

>>Brancaleone movies series, starring the late, great Vittorio Gassman
>
>Haven't seen or heard of these. "Surrealistic medieval comedy"? How would
>you describe these films?

Uhm... side-splitting funny ? :-)

>Montypythonian?

Well, no, not really... it's a "simpler" kind of humour... what these
movies have in common with the Monty's "Holy Grail" is the historical
settings and the way characters speak their own dialects (or, rather,
with heavy accents), with the exception of the protagonist, a knight
(a rather unfortunate one, at that) and other high rank characters,
who speak said aulic Italian.

I think every Italian and their dogs have seen these movies some ten
times AND own a tape of them... I sure do :-)

Unfortunately, there don't seem to be foreign editions of them, not
even with just subtitles (translation would be a nightmare, and it
probably wouldn't work anyway).

Cheers!

Eta Beta

Hi everyone.

I was looking around in Inducks and came across an old Italian Disney
character called Il Gatto:

http://coa.inducks.org/coa/c1/character.php/0/Il+Gatto/1 .

Apparently, this "crooked, catfaced newspaper reporter" was used in the
late 1930s -- and then prettty much forgotten about.

Does anybody know more about this guy? Why has he never been brought
back (except for that 1994 story, where I suspect he made only a cameo)?
And is there a picture of him somewhere on the Net?

Lars

Hi!
This site contains several pieces of original Barks art:
http://www.orgcomicart.com/
--- Dani?l

I read this fabulous story in Picsou, i loved the references to Frank Capra,
etc. But I can't understand the principal detail: the real age of Donald
Duck in that comic. He is not really 70 in that Barksian realm of the
fifties... isn't?

FABIO

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> Let's see now... Ah yes, PM changed the panel & translation: panel 8 p 2,
> where the man peers over the upside-down paper (in the original script,
ie),
> instead of "90 / 60", he reads "1934", right side up, and rightly
concludes
> Donald is 70. Consequently, the story now depicts Donald as really being
70,
> with the date explicitly given, when in fact Don was careful not to
mention
> any date at all, thus sustaining the suspension of time regarding aging
> that characterizes most comics.

Yes I think the problem was the translation, very very thanks... I loved
that story... I like Don Rosa comics more and more everyday.

thanks again,
FABIO

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From: Olivier (mouse-ducks at wanadoo.fr)
Subject: Re: The Duck Who Never Was
>>>>From DD # 586 (Sept '94), p 2 of the story:
panel 6, Donald fills his birthday on the form-- "month: 09" "day: 06"

This story was plagued by translator errors on its first go-around 10 years
ago, and the situation is only worse now when they are reusing it
improperly!
Naturally, my original script had the form being filled out correctly --
"month: 06" and "day: 09". Also, later in the story, I had Gus Goose
chalking a Duck Family Tree onto a wall with himself and $crooge in the
proper positions, but every single international version of the story had
the names reversed when added by the local translator. In fact, these two
errors were so universal, that it seems the errors must have been at the
main Egmont office when they created the text version of the script from my
storyboard-script. (But still, even if that's the case, and disregarding the
inconsequential position of Gus or $crooge on that chalked Family Tree...
when it's being so thoroughly discussed and covered by Disney's and the
publishers' publicity engines that DD's birthday is *June 9* and *not*
"Sept. 6", how could all of those translators and editors have not realized
that they had an error in their script?!)
It would be so easy to reuse this story properly -- all the editors would
have to do is say "here is Don Rosa's 60th Anniversary Donald Duck story
from 10 years ago" and use the correct script, rather than trying to rewrite
an unchangeable script and ending up a mess like they did in that new
PICSOU. I understand that my wise friends at ZIO PAPERONE did it properly.
They may have done it properly in at least some of the Egmont DD 70th
Birthday hardbacks that came out last month, but I can't read them.
But perhaps this story is cursed to involve errors? I must point out that
the comic you refer to should be DD #286, not #586. And I failed to remember
to put the dedication in the first panel of the art!

Hello,

could anybody send me a valid e-mail adress to contact someone at Gemstone, please.
The contact adress they have on their webpage (<gjudy at gemstonepub.com>) doesn't seem to be working,
since I always get an error message back...

Thanks a lot,

Tim

Timo Ronkainen wrote:

>> I was looking around in Inducks and came across an old Italian Disney
>> character called Il Gatto [...]
>
> I couldn't find any pic, so I scanned one [...]

Thanks, Timo. Appreciate it.

Does nobody else have any information on this character?

Lars