Don:
>>>> Naturally, my original script had the form being filled out
correctly --
>>>> "month: 06" and "day: 09".
Something sounded wrong somehow when I typed this but I couldn't figure
what, and I must confess I replied in a hurry. This is indeed the way it is
printed in Gladstone's DDA 286 (*2*, not *586*, as you corrected).
>>>>Also, later in the story, I had Gus Goose chalking a Duck Family Tree
>>>>onto a wall with himself and $crooge in the
>>>> proper positions, but every single international version of the story
had
>>>> the names reversed when added by the local translator.
PM got it right, like Gladstone. I have followed Gus' explanation on the
tree. As for other translators, they may have considered the tree started
from the top, from the arrow.
>>>> It would be so easy to reuse this story properly -- all the editors
would
>>>> have to do is say "here is Don Rosa's 60th Anniversary Donald Duck
story
>>>> from 10 years ago" and use the correct script, rather than trying to
rewrite
>>>> an unchangeable script and ending up a mess like they did in that new
>>>> PICSOU.
Exactly. Imagine changing the dates in every quotation from any literary
work just so you could quote a text on the date you like?
>>>>And I failed to remember to put the dedication in the first panel of the
art!
It would sound very smart if you explained you did it on purpose-- "The
Dedication That Never Was". ; ) It must have been an unconscious smart
move.
Olivier
Author
Topic: 200407
(175 messages)
Olivier
"The Duck Who Never Was" - my own typos
Message 61 -
2004-07-14 at 03:27:37
Don Rosa
"The Duck Who Never Was"
Message 62 -
2004-07-14 at 07:48:18
From: Thomas Pryds Lauritsen (thomas at duckburg.dk)
Subject: Re: "The Duck Who Never Was"
> [...] that DD's birthday is *June 9* and *not*
> "Sept. 6", how could all of those translators and editors have not
realized
> that they had an error in their script?!)
>>>This is only guessing, but perhaps the fact that one writes a date on
the form "day - month" in many European countries played a role?
I'm not sure how -- I am aware of that difference in how dates are written,
so my script called for each line to be clearly labeled with the words "DAY"
and "MONTH"... and I inked the numbers of "06" & "09" into the lines on the
original art. It was the placement of those added labels that was always
reversed by the local publishers... the same way that "$crooge" and "me" are
always reversed later in the chalked Family Tree. As I say, I suspect the
error was in Egmont's typed-up script, but the reversed date is such an
obvious error, especially when the whole point of the promotion is that
Donald's "birthday" is June 9. I don't know how that mistake could be made
without being caught by someone. Even if the mistake had been in my original
script (and I've certainly had errors in my scripts!), somebody should have
spotted it. But I am referring to 10 years ago, because........
> It would be so easy to reuse this story properly -- all the editors would
> have to do is say "here is Don Rosa's 60th Anniversary Donald Duck story
> from 10 years ago" and use the correct script
>>>This was what they did in Denmark (and probably the other Scandinavian
countries, too).
And it's interesting that I mentioned those DD's 70th hardbacks and said
that I didn't know how the story was handled therein, because that very day
I received the Swedish edition and today I received the Norwegian... and I
see the story is correctly handled in both. And now you are saying that the
Danish edition used it properly as well. Very good! Thanks!
>>>"The Duck Who Never Was"
represented "a new century", which is strange since it was made in the
90es and it mentions Donald "being" 60 years old which was relevant in
the 90es.
That is rather odd... but I guess they wanted to use that story, and they
had to have *me* be the representative of "the new century" since I am the
"new guy" among all the featured artists.
Subject: Re: "The Duck Who Never Was"
> [...] that DD's birthday is *June 9* and *not*
> "Sept. 6", how could all of those translators and editors have not
realized
> that they had an error in their script?!)
>>>This is only guessing, but perhaps the fact that one writes a date on
the form "day - month" in many European countries played a role?
I'm not sure how -- I am aware of that difference in how dates are written,
so my script called for each line to be clearly labeled with the words "DAY"
and "MONTH"... and I inked the numbers of "06" & "09" into the lines on the
original art. It was the placement of those added labels that was always
reversed by the local publishers... the same way that "$crooge" and "me" are
always reversed later in the chalked Family Tree. As I say, I suspect the
error was in Egmont's typed-up script, but the reversed date is such an
obvious error, especially when the whole point of the promotion is that
Donald's "birthday" is June 9. I don't know how that mistake could be made
without being caught by someone. Even if the mistake had been in my original
script (and I've certainly had errors in my scripts!), somebody should have
spotted it. But I am referring to 10 years ago, because........
> It would be so easy to reuse this story properly -- all the editors would
> have to do is say "here is Don Rosa's 60th Anniversary Donald Duck story
> from 10 years ago" and use the correct script
>>>This was what they did in Denmark (and probably the other Scandinavian
countries, too).
And it's interesting that I mentioned those DD's 70th hardbacks and said
that I didn't know how the story was handled therein, because that very day
I received the Swedish edition and today I received the Norwegian... and I
see the story is correctly handled in both. And now you are saying that the
Danish edition used it properly as well. Very good! Thanks!
>>>"The Duck Who Never Was"
represented "a new century", which is strange since it was made in the
90es and it mentions Donald "being" 60 years old which was relevant in
the 90es.
That is rather odd... but I guess they wanted to use that story, and they
had to have *me* be the representative of "the new century" since I am the
"new guy" among all the featured artists.
Don Rosa
"curse of the error-plagued story"
Message 63 -
2004-07-14 at 15:41:04
"...so my script called for each line to be clearly labeled with the words
"DAY"
and "MONTH"... and I inked the numbers of "06" & "09" into the lines on the
original art."
More "curse of the error-plagued story".
Now I'm making it sound like *I* had the error in my storyboard-script,
which I didn't!
I should have written:
"...so my script called for each line to be clearly labeled with the words
"DAY"
and "MONTH"... and I inked the numbers of "09" & "06" into the lines on the
original art."
"DAY"
and "MONTH"... and I inked the numbers of "06" & "09" into the lines on the
original art."
More "curse of the error-plagued story".
Now I'm making it sound like *I* had the error in my storyboard-script,
which I didn't!
I should have written:
"...so my script called for each line to be clearly labeled with the words
"DAY"
and "MONTH"... and I inked the numbers of "09" & "06" into the lines on the
original art."
Thomas Pryds Lauritsen
"The Duck Who Never Was"
Message 64 -
2004-07-14 at 16:38:07
Don Rosa wrote:
>>"The Duck Who Never Was"
>> represented "a new century", which is strange since it was made in the
>> 90es and it mentions Donald "being" 60 years old which was relevant in
>> the 90es.
>
> That is rather odd... but I guess they wanted to use that story, and they
> had to have *me* be the representative of "the new century" since I am the
> "new guy" among all the featured artists.
Yes, probably "the guy" (or the work of "the guy" in general) more than
"the story" was the representative. In the book Vicar represented the
90es, and in a situation where I had to place you and Vicar in the
categories "the 90es" and "the new century" I think I'd done likewise.
Although we saw your Lo$ series and many other stories in the 90es, we
were presented with a *huge* number of good-quality stories drawn by
Vicar. There were probably not many weeklies that didn't have a story
drawn by either Vicar or Branca during the entire decade. And being
representative of "the new century" is probably not so bad either, eh?
(I guess they expect to see more from you in the future :-)
Thomas
--
Thomas Pryds Lauritsen
http://www.cs.aau.dk/~pryds/
>>"The Duck Who Never Was"
>> represented "a new century", which is strange since it was made in the
>> 90es and it mentions Donald "being" 60 years old which was relevant in
>> the 90es.
>
> That is rather odd... but I guess they wanted to use that story, and they
> had to have *me* be the representative of "the new century" since I am the
> "new guy" among all the featured artists.
Yes, probably "the guy" (or the work of "the guy" in general) more than
"the story" was the representative. In the book Vicar represented the
90es, and in a situation where I had to place you and Vicar in the
categories "the 90es" and "the new century" I think I'd done likewise.
Although we saw your Lo$ series and many other stories in the 90es, we
were presented with a *huge* number of good-quality stories drawn by
Vicar. There were probably not many weeklies that didn't have a story
drawn by either Vicar or Branca during the entire decade. And being
representative of "the new century" is probably not so bad either, eh?
(I guess they expect to see more from you in the future :-)
Thomas
--
Thomas Pryds Lauritsen
http://www.cs.aau.dk/~pryds/
Travis Seitler
(Current) Gemstone e-mail addresses
Message 65 -
2004-07-14 at 20:08:47
== Tim Otterburg <tim.otterburg at epfl.ch> asked: ==
could anybody send me a valid e-mail adress to contact someone at Gemstone,
please.
The contact adress they have on their webpage (< gjudy at gemstonepub.com>)
doesn't seem to be working,
since I always get an error message back...
======
Tim,
I apologize for this oversight on our end. It sounds like the person you
should e-mail is Angie Meyer (mangie at diamondcomics.com).
Thank you for bringing this to our attention - I'll make sure the website is
updated to reflect this change. Below are the e-mail addresses currently
printed in Gemstone's books:
ADVERTISING
Sara Ortt
ads at gemstonepub.com
SUBSCRIPTIONS / BACK ISSUES
Angie Meyer
mangie at diamondcomics.com
LETTER COLUMNS
Donald Duck and Friends / Donald Duck Adventures: dd at gemstonepub.com
Mickey Mouse and Friends: mm at gemstonepub.com
Uncle Scrooge: us at gemstonepub.com
Walt Disney Comics and Stories: wdcs at gemstonepub.com
Hope that helps!
Travis Seitler
Art Director, Disney Comic Books
Gemstone Publishing
stravis at gemstonepub.com
"A man should never neglect his family for business." - Walt Disney
could anybody send me a valid e-mail adress to contact someone at Gemstone,
please.
The contact adress they have on their webpage (< gjudy at gemstonepub.com>)
doesn't seem to be working,
since I always get an error message back...
======
Tim,
I apologize for this oversight on our end. It sounds like the person you
should e-mail is Angie Meyer (mangie at diamondcomics.com).
Thank you for bringing this to our attention - I'll make sure the website is
updated to reflect this change. Below are the e-mail addresses currently
printed in Gemstone's books:
ADVERTISING
Sara Ortt
ads at gemstonepub.com
SUBSCRIPTIONS / BACK ISSUES
Angie Meyer
mangie at diamondcomics.com
LETTER COLUMNS
Donald Duck and Friends / Donald Duck Adventures: dd at gemstonepub.com
Mickey Mouse and Friends: mm at gemstonepub.com
Uncle Scrooge: us at gemstonepub.com
Walt Disney Comics and Stories: wdcs at gemstonepub.com
Hope that helps!
Travis Seitler
Art Director, Disney Comic Books
Gemstone Publishing
stravis at gemstonepub.com
"A man should never neglect his family for business." - Walt Disney
Francesco Spreafico
Deborah Compagnoni/Paperino e la torta nevosa
Message 66 -
2004-07-14 at 22:28:01
Niels Houlberg Hansen wrote:
> Does anyone know if she is identical to the succesful skier (Olympic Gold
> Medals etc.) with the same name?
> I know that other Italian celebreties (e.g. the soccer player Gianluca
> Vialli) appeared as guest-writers in the mid 1990s so it could be a part
> of that series.
You're right, it is.
--
Francesco
[http://www.dimensionedelta.net/scarpa/]
> Does anyone know if she is identical to the succesful skier (Olympic Gold
> Medals etc.) with the same name?
> I know that other Italian celebreties (e.g. the soccer player Gianluca
> Vialli) appeared as guest-writers in the mid 1990s so it could be a part
> of that series.
You're right, it is.
--
Francesco
[http://www.dimensionedelta.net/scarpa/]
Arne Voigtmann
"The Duck Who Never Was"
Message 67 -
2004-07-15 at 00:09:25
Don Rosa wrote:
> Naturally, my original script had the form being filled out correctly --
> "month: 06" and "day: 09". Also, later in the story, I had Gus Goose
> chalking a Duck Family Tree onto a wall with himself and $crooge in the
> proper positions, but every single international version of the story had
> the names reversed when added by the local translator.
I checked that in the German translations, but in both the "60 years
Donald Duck" album and the 1994's "Micky Maus" issue (the story wasn't
reprinted in the "70 years Donald Duck" album in Germany) it was printed
correctly, with saying "Tag 09 / Monat 06" and showing Gus in the
upper right and Scrooge in the left of the family tree. Maybe someone
at Ehapa recognized the errors in the Egmont script and corrected them.
Best regards,
Arne
> Naturally, my original script had the form being filled out correctly --
> "month: 06" and "day: 09". Also, later in the story, I had Gus Goose
> chalking a Duck Family Tree onto a wall with himself and $crooge in the
> proper positions, but every single international version of the story had
> the names reversed when added by the local translator.
I checked that in the German translations, but in both the "60 years
Donald Duck" album and the 1994's "Micky Maus" issue (the story wasn't
reprinted in the "70 years Donald Duck" album in Germany) it was printed
correctly, with saying "Tag 09 / Monat 06" and showing Gus in the
upper right and Scrooge in the left of the family tree. Maybe someone
at Ehapa recognized the errors in the Egmont script and corrected them.
Best regards,
Arne
Danehog
Gemstone To Publish WDC&S Reprints?
Message 68 -
2004-07-15 at 09:59:20
Hi. Just a quick question.
Does Gemstone really plan to start publishing reprints of the entire run of
WDC&S, starting with the first issue? It seems like I vaguely remember the
subject being discussed shortly before the June 2003 relaunch of WDC&S and Uncle
Scrooge.
I'm not trying to ask an impossible question that no one knows the answer to
or has yet decided to reveal, but I'm curious as to whether the WDC&S reprints
were even really an issue that was discussed or even considered. I think
maybe I read about it in an interview, possibly on the pop culture Web site IGN.
I don't know.
Any efforts to put me back on my rocker (as the Cool Kids say) would be
appreciated.
Thanks!
--
Dane
(And this poses a new question which has probably been discussed on this list
already. If this reprint venture were to become a reality, could Gemstone
publish the stories that feature characters exclusively for the features, or, for
that matter, Floyd Gottfredson strips?)
Does Gemstone really plan to start publishing reprints of the entire run of
WDC&S, starting with the first issue? It seems like I vaguely remember the
subject being discussed shortly before the June 2003 relaunch of WDC&S and Uncle
Scrooge.
I'm not trying to ask an impossible question that no one knows the answer to
or has yet decided to reveal, but I'm curious as to whether the WDC&S reprints
were even really an issue that was discussed or even considered. I think
maybe I read about it in an interview, possibly on the pop culture Web site IGN.
I don't know.
Any efforts to put me back on my rocker (as the Cool Kids say) would be
appreciated.
Thanks!
--
Dane
(And this poses a new question which has probably been discussed on this list
already. If this reprint venture were to become a reality, could Gemstone
publish the stories that feature characters exclusively for the features, or, for
that matter, Floyd Gottfredson strips?)
Niels Houlberg Hansen
Deborah Compagnoni/Paperino e la torta nevosa
Message 69 -
2004-07-15 at 15:23:50
Niels Houlberg Hansen wrote:
> Does anyone know if she is identical to the succesful skier (Olympic Gold
> Medals etc.) with the same name?
> I know that other Italian celebreties (e.g. the soccer player Gianluca
> Vialli) appeared as guest-writers in the mid 1990s so it could be a part
> of that series.
Francesco Speafico wrote:
> You're right, it is.
Thank you very much for the info.
Do you also know if the writer of "Paperino e la iella passerella" (Topolino
2143) is identical to the movie director/actor/writer Mario Monicello?
Kind regards,
Niels
> Does anyone know if she is identical to the succesful skier (Olympic Gold
> Medals etc.) with the same name?
> I know that other Italian celebreties (e.g. the soccer player Gianluca
> Vialli) appeared as guest-writers in the mid 1990s so it could be a part
> of that series.
Francesco Speafico wrote:
> You're right, it is.
Thank you very much for the info.
Do you also know if the writer of "Paperino e la iella passerella" (Topolino
2143) is identical to the movie director/actor/writer Mario Monicello?
Kind regards,
Niels
Halvor.Sandven
Italian version of Phantom Blot + request to Norwegian readers
Message 70 -
2004-07-16 at 10:24:00
I'm making a web-site regarding the Norwegian Donald Duck comic
(www.donaldbladet.tk, sorry it's only in Norwegian). This site shows
highlights from the different years, what artists are used, and more.
One of the features is that when a new character enters the comic, I
will try to write a bit about this one. I'm now working with the year
1965, and this year we see the Phantom Blot for the very first time in a
Norwegian comic. This is of course the very good Murry-story 'The Return
of the Phantom Blot'. (Does anybody know who wrote this story). I have
also read the classic De Maris/Gottfredson story about this character,
in my opinion maybe the best Mickey-story of them all. I looked up this
character in INDUCKS, and saw to my surprise that there were several
Italian Blot-stories between these two stories. I know about the
Matina/Scarpa story 'Topolino e il doppio segreto di Macchia Nera (The
Blot's double mystery), but I would like to know a bit more about the
other Italian stories. How is the Blot treated in these stories? Does he
get to be the mysterious villain of these other stories? Are these
'good' stories that you would recommend? In the Martina/Scarpa story we
see some new tricks from the Blot. The other side of his hood is white,
so that he's hard to see in the snow, and he can also under certain
circumstances turn himself invisible. Are these things also seen in some
of the other stories? As in the Gottfredson-story, this story also shows
us the Blot without his hood. How common is this in later Italian
stories?
----------------------
I also have a little request regarding my site, and this is just for the
Norwegians here. In number 38/65 a new feature was included in the comic
for a while. As part of the back-cover, the readers could cut out a
drawing and fold this in a certain way, and a new picture would emerge
(I think). It was called a 'Tryllebilde'. I would like to show an
example of this on my site, but in my comics these drawings are gone.
Does anybody have a comic from this time where this is intact? If so I
would be very thankful if this could be scanned and sent to mail-address
mikkemus1 at hotmail.com
Halvor
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(www.donaldbladet.tk, sorry it's only in Norwegian). This site shows
highlights from the different years, what artists are used, and more.
One of the features is that when a new character enters the comic, I
will try to write a bit about this one. I'm now working with the year
1965, and this year we see the Phantom Blot for the very first time in a
Norwegian comic. This is of course the very good Murry-story 'The Return
of the Phantom Blot'. (Does anybody know who wrote this story). I have
also read the classic De Maris/Gottfredson story about this character,
in my opinion maybe the best Mickey-story of them all. I looked up this
character in INDUCKS, and saw to my surprise that there were several
Italian Blot-stories between these two stories. I know about the
Matina/Scarpa story 'Topolino e il doppio segreto di Macchia Nera (The
Blot's double mystery), but I would like to know a bit more about the
other Italian stories. How is the Blot treated in these stories? Does he
get to be the mysterious villain of these other stories? Are these
'good' stories that you would recommend? In the Martina/Scarpa story we
see some new tricks from the Blot. The other side of his hood is white,
so that he's hard to see in the snow, and he can also under certain
circumstances turn himself invisible. Are these things also seen in some
of the other stories? As in the Gottfredson-story, this story also shows
us the Blot without his hood. How common is this in later Italian
stories?
----------------------
I also have a little request regarding my site, and this is just for the
Norwegians here. In number 38/65 a new feature was included in the comic
for a while. As part of the back-cover, the readers could cut out a
drawing and fold this in a certain way, and a new picture would emerge
(I think). It was called a 'Tryllebilde'. I would like to show an
example of this on my site, but in my comics these drawings are gone.
Does anybody have a comic from this time where this is intact? If so I
would be very thankful if this could be scanned and sent to mail-address
mikkemus1 at hotmail.com
Halvor
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Eta Beta
DCML Digest, Vol 17, Issue 16
Message 71 -
2004-07-16 at 14:12:22
NIELS
>Do you also know if the writer of "Paperino e la iella passerella" (Topolino
>2143) is identical to the movie director/actor/writer Mario Monicello?
That's him alright. Curious coincidence, Monicelli (note sp) is
the writer and director of those Brancaleone movies we've mentioned
a few days ago with Timo, as well as of one of the greatest masterpieces
in Italian cinema, "Audace colpo dei soliti ignoti" (aka "Big Deal on
Madonna Street").
HALVOR
[Italian Phantom Blot stories]
>Are these 'good' stories that you would recommend?
Some are, but none that specifically spring to mind as exceptionally good,
not to me right now, at least, and with the exception of Scarpa's "double
Mystery", of course.
>In the Martina/Scarpa story we
>see some new tricks from the Blot. The other side of his hood is white,
>so that he's hard to see in the snow, and he can also under certain
>circumstances turn himself invisible. Are these things also seen in some
>of the other stories?
Don't remember, but I don't think so.
>As in the Gottfredson-story, this story also shows
>us the Blot without his hood. How common is this in later Italian
>stories?
Quite common. I think he's more often than not portraied "capeless",
actually, in Italian stories.
Cheers!
Eta Beta
>Do you also know if the writer of "Paperino e la iella passerella" (Topolino
>2143) is identical to the movie director/actor/writer Mario Monicello?
That's him alright. Curious coincidence, Monicelli (note sp) is
the writer and director of those Brancaleone movies we've mentioned
a few days ago with Timo, as well as of one of the greatest masterpieces
in Italian cinema, "Audace colpo dei soliti ignoti" (aka "Big Deal on
Madonna Street").
HALVOR
[Italian Phantom Blot stories]
>Are these 'good' stories that you would recommend?
Some are, but none that specifically spring to mind as exceptionally good,
not to me right now, at least, and with the exception of Scarpa's "double
Mystery", of course.
>In the Martina/Scarpa story we
>see some new tricks from the Blot. The other side of his hood is white,
>so that he's hard to see in the snow, and he can also under certain
>circumstances turn himself invisible. Are these things also seen in some
>of the other stories?
Don't remember, but I don't think so.
>As in the Gottfredson-story, this story also shows
>us the Blot without his hood. How common is this in later Italian
>stories?
Quite common. I think he's more often than not portraied "capeless",
actually, in Italian stories.
Cheers!
Eta Beta
Paolo Castagno
R: Deborah Compagnoni/Paperino e la torta nevosa
Message 72 -
2004-07-16 at 16:03:32
> According to INDUCKS the Donald Duck story "Paperino e
> la torta nevosa"
> (1998) was written by one Deborah Compagnoni:
>
http://coa.inducks.org/coa/c1/creator.php/0/Deborah+Compagnoni/1
> Does anyone know if she is identical to the succesful skier
(Olympic Gold
> Medals etc.) with the same name?
She's exactly the same person!
Ciao,
- Paolo
http://www.papersera.net mailto:paolo at papersera.net
> la torta nevosa"
> (1998) was written by one Deborah Compagnoni:
>
http://coa.inducks.org/coa/c1/creator.php/0/Deborah+Compagnoni/1
> Does anyone know if she is identical to the succesful skier
(Olympic Gold
> Medals etc.) with the same name?
She's exactly the same person!
Ciao,
- Paolo
http://www.papersera.net mailto:paolo at papersera.net
Jeanmarcbano
Gladstone Gander on the ambiguous road
Message 73 -
2004-07-16 at 18:49:20
Gladstone Gander (Gontran Bonheur) has had different faces through the years; since the beginning, we have been seeing him as the competitor of Donald for winning the Scrooge's favours or simply as a competitor for any kind of reward, money and so forth... (Trail Of The Unicorn, The Gilded Man - Donald contre El Dorado -, Donald l'as du pinceau - Paperino e il Ghirigoro 1964, Donald et la Ru?e vers l'or - The Golden Nugget Boat 1961, except for the italian one, all these stories are stories of Carl Barks); Gladstone also appears to be in many italian stories the competitor of Donald for winning the favours of Daisy (Donald automobiliste mod?le, Donald et la m?g?re milliardaire - paperino e la miliarda miliardaria 1962 (pencils Romano Scarpa), the prelude of the story ' La Bataille des H?ros' - Paperiade - (Bottero/Martina) in Mickey Parade 25; in Paperino e la Miliarda Miliardaria the female character called Vand?ka M?liosa aka Juanella Van Damm has an awful temper; so could we consider Duckburg as a misogynous universe? Magica is a seductive 'bad girl' witch, Brigitte (Brigitta McBridge) is an hysterical woman with a Scrooge obsession (that sometimes leads her to create some big business, financial empire, for competing with Scrooge on the grounds of economic industry, especially in the excellent story 'Le papillon de Christophe Colomb' - Paperino e la farfalla di colombo - scenario/script/pencils Romano Scarpa); Vand?ka aka Juanella Van Damm is awful, Daisy is a more ambiguous character, sometimes she is better than the men who populate Duckburg, has more brains than them, but her character is sometimes shadowed by a hint of snoberry like Minnie; furthermore, her choice for her fiancee between Donald and Gladstone often is unclear.
Sometimes Gladstone is the villain (however, rarely); in a particular story (where Goofy makes a cameo) he teams up with the Beagle boys for stealing the Scrooge's wealth before fleeing with them and the money on a desert island; this is 'La Bataille des H?ros' - Paperiade -; however this kind of characterization for Gladstone is unfit for the man, the guy is a dandy not a bad guy; the stories of 'Fantomiald' aka Paperinik, allows Donald to take revenge on his supposed inferiorities compared with Gladstone, Scrooge and sometimes Daisy; 'Comment on devient Fantomiald' Paperinik il diabolico vendicatore and 'Donald fait jouer Fantomias' Paperinik torpa a colpire; aside the double personality, i don't think the character of Paperinik could have fitted in the Barks universe, because the Donald of Barks, even if he envies the good luck of Gladstone, is less mixed up than the italian Donald.
Gladstone is also capable of generosity : at the end of the story 'Donald et l'h?ritage fant?me' Paperino e l'eredita transitoria 1967, he gives money to Donald as a reward for having found his lost casket.
Sometimes Gladstone is the villain (however, rarely); in a particular story (where Goofy makes a cameo) he teams up with the Beagle boys for stealing the Scrooge's wealth before fleeing with them and the money on a desert island; this is 'La Bataille des H?ros' - Paperiade -; however this kind of characterization for Gladstone is unfit for the man, the guy is a dandy not a bad guy; the stories of 'Fantomiald' aka Paperinik, allows Donald to take revenge on his supposed inferiorities compared with Gladstone, Scrooge and sometimes Daisy; 'Comment on devient Fantomiald' Paperinik il diabolico vendicatore and 'Donald fait jouer Fantomias' Paperinik torpa a colpire; aside the double personality, i don't think the character of Paperinik could have fitted in the Barks universe, because the Donald of Barks, even if he envies the good luck of Gladstone, is less mixed up than the italian Donald.
Gladstone is also capable of generosity : at the end of the story 'Donald et l'h?ritage fant?me' Paperino e l'eredita transitoria 1967, he gives money to Donald as a reward for having found his lost casket.
Jeanmarcbano
Errata about the Gladstone comment
Message 74 -
2004-07-16 at 19:01:35
This is not 'miliarda miliardaria' but 'maliarda miliardaria', i think the italian readers will have corrected automatically.
Luca Boschi
Mario Monicelli
Message 75 -
2004-07-16 at 19:07:31
Hi, Niels!
> Thank you very much for the info.
> Do you also know if the writer of "Paperino e la iella passerella" (Topolino
> 2143) is identical to the movie director/actor/writer Mario Monicello?
Yes, he's the same guy. That story, drawn by Barbucci, is now on reprint, in
Classici Disney # 332.
Best,
Luca
> Thank you very much for the info.
> Do you also know if the writer of "Paperino e la iella passerella" (Topolino
> 2143) is identical to the movie director/actor/writer Mario Monicello?
Yes, he's the same guy. That story, drawn by Barbucci, is now on reprint, in
Classici Disney # 332.
Best,
Luca