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Vidar Svendsen
At 13:46 20.07.2004 +0200, you wrote:
>can someone help me figuring out this: How does Gyro and Helper
>communicate?

In "Man versus Machine" (US 47) he communicates by writing.
He communicates with birds in Snow Duster (US 41), btw.

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"Nothing travels faster than the speed of light
with the possible exception of bad news,
which obeys its own special laws."
Rich
Mickey asked:
> I've read, somewhere, that Clara Cluck and Panchito Pistoles
> should have a love affair. Could you tell me where this is
> stated or suggested?

Mickey, I don't know where it might have been "suggested", but it actually did
happen in the story entitled "Panchito" from Walt Disney's Comics & Stories #38.
http://coa.inducks.org/coa/c1/story.php/0/W+WDC++38-03

In the story, Panchito is visiting the USA and meets Mdm. Cluck. He calls
her "Chiquita" and they become enamoured of eachother. After a short while he
convinces her to follow him back to his home town in Mexico. She agrees only to
realize that she must hide inside a large urn (they have to sneak across the
border). While in Mexico, she becomes weary of following him about and doing
things the way he does them (such as the hiding in the urn, etc.). Eventually,
she tells him she thinks they aren't a good match, but that she really loves
Mexican food. That is basically the end of their affair, though I have been
advised by another Lister (a few years back) that Chiquita and Panchito did go on
to have a continued romantic relationship either in Brazilian or Italian (most
likey it was Italian) comics. I have no evidence of this, though.

Clara Cluck is called Chiquita in Italian and Mexican (and, I think, Spanish)
comics. She is called Clara de Ovos in Brazil.

Thanks,

Rich
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Lars Jensen
Mickey + Rich wrote:

>> I've read, somewhere, that Clara Cluck and Panchito Pistoles should
>> have a love affair. Could you tell me where this is stated or
>> suggested?
>
> Mickey, I don't know where it might have been "suggested", but it
> actually did happen in the story entitled "Panchito" from Walt
> Disney's Comics & Stories #38.
> http://coa.inducks.org/coa/c1/story.php/0/W+WDC++38-03

And, according to Inducks, this is the only time Clara and Panchito have
appeared together.

Lars
Cord Wiljes
Olaf Solstrand wrote:

> can someone help me figuring out this: How does Gyro and
> Helper communicate?

I don't think Gyro communicates with helper in the strictest sense of
the word. I rather see Helper as a part of Gyro. Sort of an external
personality appliance. Helper grounds Gyro in reality. Imagine a fusion
of Gyro and helper: The result would be a rather successful package,
wouldn't he?

Or you can view them as an old couple: She says something, he doesn't
listen, but nevertheless knows exactly what she said.

Cord
ZeldasTriforce
Hi all!

I found an article written by Floyd Norman, who wrote the Mickey Mouse comic
strip from 1983 to when it ended in the early 90's. It's pretty interesting,
talking about what he knew about the comic strip department, how he got the job
and what it was like to write the strip. It seems like between King Features
syndicate and Disney's lawyers, it was made all the harder to write worthwhile
stuff.

http://jimhillmedia.com/mb/articles/showarticle.php?ID=994

Derek Smith
Mickey
Thank you, Rich, you've been very exaustive :D
Mickey
Chris Hilbig
Thanks Derek! I always wondered how the MM strip died. This is a shame
because most comic strips being published today (Maybe comics strips
elsewhere are a hella lot more interesting) are at best, mediocre. Of
course King Features and other syndicates have dictated this
mediocrity, which leaves us readers to suffer or abandon ship. I
remember reading an interview with Frank Cho (Sketch Magazine #12) and
he mentions how overly sensitive and annoying the editors from his
syndicate were. In fact, he mentions a few times where the editors
would make changes behind his back. This motivated Cho to end Liberty
Meadow's run as a comic strip and make the transition to the comic book
format over at Image Comics.

But I'll give Floyd Norman his due, he writes a great article and
should be hired on as head of Disney's animation department, or better
yet the CEO of Disney. (My humble opinion. :P) He seems to more then
know his stuff and has the experience to back it up. I'd love to check
out reprints of his work on the Mouse strips. It'd be interesting to
see his take on Mickey. (outside a gag-a-day strip.)

Chris
SRoweCanoe
In a message dated 7/22/2004 7:39:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
chilbig1 at satx.rr.com writes:
<<. I
remember reading an interview with Frank Cho (Sketch Magazine #12) and
he mentions how overly sensitive and annoying the editors from his
syndicate were. In fact, he mentions a few times where the editors
would make changes behind his back. This motivated Cho to end Liberty
Meadow's run as a comic strip and make the transition to the comic book
format over at Image Comics.>>

the fact that while attractive looking, his strip just wasnt (to me) very
funny or very interesting (even the censored ones) may have something to do with
his strips lack of success in the newspaper marketplace. Of course i am
several decades older than the target audience for this strip ....so it wasnt meant
to appeal to me....

comic strips are a tough sell in today's market - a recent newspaper chain
in the USA (knight-rider?) has stated they plan to drop 1/3 of their comics
unless they get a 1/3 price cut....! Newspaper editors are a notorious nervous
lot, and what is good for movies or tv, isnt quite right for papers....

so when was the last Mickey strip? who's currently doing Donald? anyone
got a link to today's strip? Is the sunday strip still running? any other
current Disney strips?

steven rowe
H.W.Fluks
Lars Jensen wrote:

> And, according to Inducks, this is the only time Clara and
> Panchito have appeared together.

Let me make clear that Inducks is not 100% reliable in cases like this. We haven't listed all characters in all stories (yet), so there *may* be some other (obscure) story or newspaper strip where they both appear.
But I agree that the chances to that are small.

--Harry.
Adel Khan
Hi all,
I just bought ?The Chronological Donald 1? the set has 36 cartoons from 1934 ? 1941. If you notice most Donald Duck shorts were censored Leonard Maltin tells the reason the short was censored, shows the whole cartoon. Most shorts from the 30?s I didn?t enjoy another reason is because of the quality. The second disc had much better shorts and the sound is better.  Most of you might agree that I felt irritated they should have made it a five disc complete set from the 50?s to 60?s.  Take this as a rumor, but the following are probably the sets for the next year Mickey Mouse in Black and White Volume II, Mickey Mouse Club, The Complete Pluto and Chronological Donald 2. The shorts should be better then the first set.
Adel
 
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Adel Khan
Hi all,
I just bought ?The Chronological Donald 1? the set has 36 cartoons from 1934 ? 1941. If you notice most Donald Duck shorts were censored Leonard Maltin tells the reason the short was censored, shows the whole cartoon. Most shorts from the 30?s I didn?t enjoy another reason is because of the quality. The second disc had much better shorts and the sound is better.  Most of you might agree that I felt irritated they should have made it a five disc complete set from the 50?s to 60?s.  Take this as a rumor, but the following are probably the sets for the next year Mickey Mouse in Black and White Volume II, Mickey Mouse Club, The Complete Pluto and Chronological Donald 2. The shorts should be better then the first set.
Adel
 
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Carey Furlong
Derek Smith smith wrote about the Chronological Donald, Vol 1:

> For comics fans, check out the gallery to see Donald Duck comic
> covers and
> strips and hear Leonard Maltin's commentary on DD's comic
> book/strip history
> (Carl Barks isn't mentioned, since like the cartoons, most of the
> story is about
> 1941 and before).
>

Actually, Carl Barks is mentioned on the CD, in the "Story and Background
Art Gallery" section, as the artist for the "Seat Scouts" cartoon. Maltin
mentions that Barks continued to use his skill in action-storyboarding later
when he became the premiere artist for Donald Duck comics.

As I watched the Sea Scouts cartoon, I thought I saw some gags that looked
very similar to those used by Barks in the comics. At one point in the
cartoon, a giant shark is chasing Donald and H, D, and L. The kids are in a
rowboat and rowing so hard and fast that the boat is 10 or 15 feet above the
water, with only the criss-crossed oars below the boat making contact with
the water far below. This same scene appears in "Noble Porpoises" in WD
Comics & Stories 218. When I saw this in the cartoon I knew it must have
been Barks (it looked just like the comic), and Maltin later confirmed it.
I think Barks may have used the high-flying boat gag with criss-crossed oars
in other comics, but I can't think of them just now.

The "Publicity and Memorabilia Gallery" on the CD shows a number of first
comic covers and Maltin mentions first character appearances in them.
Maltin also details Al Talifaro and Bob Carp's development of the first
Disney comics. Some early comic stories are even included. The first pages
of the comic that introduced Huey, Dewey and Louie are shown, including the
page where their mother is mentioned in the letter Donald reads. Maltin
talks about the confusion over the names Dumbella and Della, due to
cartoon/comic cross-over.

A really great CD. I'm anticipating Volume 2.

Carey M Furlong
Dana Point, California
Stratocruiser at cox.net
ZeldasTriforce
Hi all!

Here are the Gemstone comics to be released in October 2004 from Previews
Volume XIV #8.

Donald Duck and Friends #321 -- In response to numerous requests that Donald
Duck and Friends contain more vintage material, this issue leads with Carl
Barks' classic wintertime Donald story, "Snow Fun." Also featured is the
conclusion to last issue's Mickey story, "Werewolf Worries," and a new Thanksgiving
tale, "Had A Gobbler," featuring Donald and the gang. FC, 32 pages. $2.95

Mickey Mouse and Friends #270 -- In response to numerous requests that Mickey
Mouse and Friends contain more vintage material, this issue leads Westward
Whoa, a classic Mickey Mouse western by Paul Murry. Also featured is a Daisy
Duck story, "The Bee's Knees," and a new European Super Goof tale, "Ants in the
Plans." FC, 32 pages. $2.95

Uncle Scrooge #335 -- Gemstone has recieved many requests for Don Rosa's
first Disney tale, "The Son of the Sun," and this issue leads with that classic
story of Scrooge versus Flintheart. Also featured is Daan Jippes' reworking of a
Carl Barks script, "Rodent's Ransom," Michael T. Gilbert's "The Old Fishing
Hole," and more. SC, 7x10, 64 pages, FC. $6.95

Walt Disney's Comics and Stories #650 -- William Van Horn's latest tale,
"Bumps," a new Mickey adventure, "The Island of Dr. Morbid," Huey, Dewey and Louie
in "The Imagination Game," "The Duck In Iron Pants," a classic Barks tale,
along with vintage Chip 'n' Dale, L'il Bad Wolf (Gee Pop! You ain't going to be
bad are ya?), and Pluto stories, round out this special 650th issue. SC, 7x10,
64 pages, FC. $6.95

From Tokyopop:

The Princess Diaries 2 -- No sooner has Princess Mia moved into the royal
palace with her wise grandmother Queen Clarisse than she learns her days as a
princess are numbered - Mia's got to lose the tiara and immediately take the
crown herself in The Princess Diaries 2: Royal Engagement. Cine-Manga, 96 pages, 5
x 7 7/16. $7.99 (Released in November along with the DVD, heck with that
short a time, why see the movie in the theaters? :p )

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This reprint stuff might be ominous, but as far as I can remember from
looking at the titles, I don't think I've read either Barks stories or the Murry
story, so it should be new to me. Hopefully reprints will be limited to one story
out of the three in a book, like these October issues are. Beyond reprints,
the 'new' stories seem promising.

BTW, what are these "The Son of the Sun" requests? Tell them to be
financially prudent and get the back issue in NM/MInt condition for $2-3 instead of
blowing $7 on it, for it taking up space in a new issue. :p The back issues are
plentiful. Worried someone will buy it before you? Don't worry, they won't. :p
My theory is that there are only 1-3 diehard Disney comics fans per US comic
shop and chances are, if they were going to buy it, they would have done so. So
don't worry about competition. In over a year, at my comic shop, only one
person has ever bought any Disney back issues besides me and they only bought 2 or
3 issues. The other 40-50 issues went to me. :p /end of
semi-logical-illogical rant

No MMA #2 for October, so the one-shot status remains. So when MMA #1 comes
out, buy two copies so they'll quickly turn it into a regular series. ;)

Derek Smith
ZeldasTriforce
Hi all!

Here's how Gemstone did in sales in the US in June 2004:

197. Uncle Scrooge #331 5,762
200. Donald Duck and Friends #317 5,646
204. Mickey Mouse and Friends #266 5,293
210. Walt Disney's Comics and Stories #646 5,070

Graphic Novels:

3. Walt Disney's Vacation Parade 5,193 (Spiderman who??? ;)
10. Donald Duck Adventures #6 3,673

http://www.icv2.com/articles/home/5357.html

http://www.icv2.com/articles/home/5358.html

Derek Smith
Mickey
Maybe it's already been posted, but I've read this fan fiction
http://www.sullivanet.com/duckburg/library/yukonfic/fic-main.htm
dedicated to the love story between Scrooge and Goldie. I think it's very
good. Do you agree?
It's the only real "Ducks" fan fiction I've found on the web :-/

Mickey
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