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Hi! (Don't let your anger at me if this has been discussed before, I'm only
a human :)

I've bought the "Chronological Donald" - DVD with movies in the period
1934-1941 here in Norway. (I don't know if this DVD is just a nordic
phenomenon or you can get it elsewhere) However, I wonder why they stopped
in 1941? There are plenty of movies made after 1941, so why not make a
four-disc DVD (or five or six, I don't know) instead of a two-disc DVD?
Well, I hope they are gonna make a part 2 with 1941++ movies.

mats gullikstad

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mats gullikstad wrote:

> I've bought the "Chronological Donald" - DVD with movies in
> the period 1934-1941 here in Norway.

You can find more info on this great series (and its international
editions) here:

http://www.dcml-talk.org/read.php?f=1&i=175&t=175

Best wishes,
Cord

I answered to the original question yesterday, but I must have answered to
a private email, since it never came here.

But as I wrote in that email I explained that this box is from an American
serie of limited DVDs called "Walt Disney Treasures" and all those boxes
include only 2 DVDs with a special topic.

There are 3-4 new titles every christmas and here a list:

December 4, 2001 - 150,000 tins produced

* Mickey Mouse in Living Color
* Silly Symphonies
* Disneyland USA
* Davy Crockett: The Complete Televised Series

December 3, 2002 - 125,000 tins produced

* Mickey Mouse in Black & White
* The Complete Goofy
* Behind the Scenes at the Walt Disney Studio

May 18, 2004 - Varying Number of Tins produced (This was deleayd)

* Mickey Mouse in Living Color Volume 2 (175,000 tins)
* The Chronological Donald (165,000 tins)
* On the Front Lines (250,000 tins)
* Walt's Tomorrowland (105,000 tins)

As you can see there was originaly a Mickey Mouse box but they never called
it "Volume 1" because they never knew if they would release a "Volume 2".
This box was originaly released on Laserdisc as a "Volume 1" but sold
terrible so they never made a second one. When it came to DVD Disney did
not want to make the same "mistake" so they just made it witout mentioning
that there might be another one.

When they made the "Cronological Donald" box they have learned from this
mistake and instead of calling it Volume 1 they just called it
Cronological. That way they easily can make a "Cronological Donald volume
2" in a couple of years. There is enough material for another 2 disc box
with Donald Duck.

So that is the reason why there "only" are 2 discs in the Europe and
Australian Donald DVD, it is just a copy from an original American edition
that just follows a patern for how to make them. It has nothing to do with
popularity in the US.

Lars Olav Karlsen
Oslo, Norway

Original Message:
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From: Fabio Blanco longtom at oeste.com.ar
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 16:44:25 -0300
To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
Subject: Re: The chronological Donald - DVD

> it is a world wide series.
> since they have a couple volumes of Mickey Mouse out, i assume if the
donald
> duck sold well, a second set will come out.
>
> steven rowe

And being a world series they know that are not so fans of Donald Duck in
the world as in the nordic countries. They maybe could sell four discs
there, but nobody in the rest of the world will pay more for him. Sad, but
economic. ;-)

FABIO
bonvolu postu al longtom at oeste.com.ar

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This most likely will ruffle a few feathers, but in this
politically-correct world of ours, it absolutely doesn't surprise me
that our friend Il Gatto hasn't been used too often. I'll have to admit
that I haven't ever read a story with Il Gatto, but from what I've read
from this list, he sound like a (at this point I'll take no
responsibility for misspelling of names. :P I lack the time.) Joseph
Gerbils of the New York Times, Dan Rather, or a Peter Jennings. (Just
to name a few.) Essentially they'll swear up and down that they are
unbiased and straight-forward in their reporting, and then ball-face
lie, spin, or stretch the truth in order to push their agenda and/or
ideology and manipulate popular opinion. A good example would be the
anti-war/American stories that have been pushed from the thirteen
months before the war in Iraq to today. Il Gatto sounds like he
represents all of this. From my first-hand experience, and many
interviews I've read (and i've read quite a few), most artist and
writers don't believe in the value of morality, individualism, and
smaller government. A character like Il Gatto contradicts the notion
that all good journalists are truthful and look out for poor bastards
like themselves. The idea that reportage could ever be slanted is an
impossibility, or whoever is being smeared is most likely an evil
hate-monger that's profiting from the suffering of others. Therefore my
theory is that most writers in this business would be too uncomfortable
with using Il Gatto, unless he is placed in some type of heroic role,
which wouldn't fit the character.

Then again this may all be just a coincidence, since I've never heard
of Il Gatto until Lars brought him up. There is the possibility that
most everyone else knows little or nothing of Il Gatto and therefore
he hasn't been used very often.

Just my two-cents,

Chris

Olaf Solstrand wrote:

> can someone help me figuring out this: How does Gyro and Helper
communicate?

I don't think Gyro communicates with helper in the strictest sense of
the word. I rather see Helper as a part of Gyro. Sort of an external
personality appliance. Helper grounds Gyro in reality. Imagine a fusion
of Gyro and helper: The result would be a rather successful package,
wouldn't he?

Or you can view them as an old couple: She says something, he doesn't
listen but nevertheless knows exactly what she said.

Cord

Daniel van Eijmeren wrote:

> This site contains several pieces of original Barks art:
>
> http://www.orgcomicart.com/

I had some problems following the link to the artists, but after some hacking I found the Barks page here:

http://www.orgcomicart.com/php/artists.php?artists=Barks,%20Carl

--Harry.

Lars Jensen posted:

Olaf Solstrand wrote:

> can someone help me figuring out this: How does Gyro and Helper
> communicate?

I don't think it has ever been established anywhere. My own answer to
that question would be:

They just do.
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To use an example, take Charlie Brown and Snoopy. When Snoopy comes knocking
on the door in the middle of the night, how does Charlie Brown know what
Snoopy wants? They can't talk to each other and yet they do understand each other.

As for Chronological Donald Volume 1, there will be a second volume in
December or whenever the next wave of Disney Treasures DVDs come out. There are so
many Donald cartoons, it would take 8 or 9 discs to hold them all. I wish there
were more extras on the DVDs, though with so many cartoons, I can see why
there wasn't much space for extras. Maybe there will be more on the second volume
(though the 'problem' of a ton of cartoons will still exist).

For comics fans, check out the gallery to see Donald Duck comic covers and
strips and hear Leonard Maltin's commentary on DD's comic book/strip history
(Carl Barks isn't mentioned, since like the cartoons, most of the story is about
1941 and before).

Derek Smith