Because of a server problem, the inducks.org website, including COA, will not
work correctly and/or will be unavailable for an unknown period of time
(maybe just a few days, but possibly more).
--
I'm not reading mails sent to lerichard at free.fr anymore. To contact me use
f-wi at induREMOVE.aLso.THIScks (remove the hyphen and add ".org").
Author
Topic: 200411
(149 messages)
Richard
Inducks server unavailable
Message 1 -
2004-11-01 at 18:46:26
Ari Seppi
Flemming Andersen in Poland / Cavazzano and Erickson in Finland
Message 2 -
2004-11-01 at 21:05:05
Mateusz:
>one week ago, on 23th of October, there was a Halloween Party orginised by
>Egmont Poland. Flemming Andersen was the star of the party.
Ha, very nice. Finland and Poland seem to have a similar artist visit
calendar (artist signing occasions this summer and autumn have given a nice
head start for my Grandma Duck picture collection): Vicar was here few days
before his Poland visit that you reported earlier, and a week after your
Andersen visit, we had Cavazzano and Erickson to celebrate a new semi-hard
cover Dragonlords book.
There was also an interview with some interesting information about
Dragonlords series:
[SPOILER SPACE - don't read ahead if you haven't finished the series or do
not mind being spoiled]
Most interestingly: originally Erickson intended to kill Snuffles (Nuuhku
in Finnish, I'm not sure I got the English name correctly), but was
convinced to change the script. They also spoke about the chapter eleven,
sixteen pages of comics without a single one speech or thought bubble and
with minimal text in general. Cavazzano thought it was pretty challenging. :-)
Worked out fine I think, when I first read the story I didn't even notice
the lack of bubbles.
--
Ari Seppi (ari.seppi at iki.fi)
http://www.iki.fi/mani/
>one week ago, on 23th of October, there was a Halloween Party orginised by
>Egmont Poland. Flemming Andersen was the star of the party.
Ha, very nice. Finland and Poland seem to have a similar artist visit
calendar (artist signing occasions this summer and autumn have given a nice
head start for my Grandma Duck picture collection): Vicar was here few days
before his Poland visit that you reported earlier, and a week after your
Andersen visit, we had Cavazzano and Erickson to celebrate a new semi-hard
cover Dragonlords book.
There was also an interview with some interesting information about
Dragonlords series:
[SPOILER SPACE - don't read ahead if you haven't finished the series or do
not mind being spoiled]
Most interestingly: originally Erickson intended to kill Snuffles (Nuuhku
in Finnish, I'm not sure I got the English name correctly), but was
convinced to change the script. They also spoke about the chapter eleven,
sixteen pages of comics without a single one speech or thought bubble and
with minimal text in general. Cavazzano thought it was pretty challenging. :-)
Worked out fine I think, when I first read the story I didn't even notice
the lack of bubbles.
--
Ari Seppi (ari.seppi at iki.fi)
http://www.iki.fi/mani/
Deanmary
Reprints in WDC&S 650 and Donald Duck and Friends 273
Message 3 -
2004-11-01 at 22:48:05
Supposedly Barks' "The Duck in the Iron Pants" is going to be in
WDC&S 650 published in two days on November 3rd *and* is to reprinted
*again* in DD&F 324 out three months from now! Some people may think
I complain too much about reprints in Gemstone, but don't I have a
point this time? :) Seriously though, I imagine "Duck in the Iron
Pants" will only be in one of these issues, and that there was some
kind of mistake. Can you let us know Gary? Thanks!
Dean Rekich
WDC&S 650 published in two days on November 3rd *and* is to reprinted
*again* in DD&F 324 out three months from now! Some people may think
I complain too much about reprints in Gemstone, but don't I have a
point this time? :) Seriously though, I imagine "Duck in the Iron
Pants" will only be in one of these issues, and that there was some
kind of mistake. Can you let us know Gary? Thanks!
Dean Rekich
Arthur
Mythbusters ping pong ball episode on Discovery Channel in US this
Message 4 -
2004-11-01 at 23:27:22
Hi,
I mentioned a few months ago that a television show named Mythbusters used
60,000 ping pong balls this year to try and raise a 24-foot sailboat, after
the 1949 classic Carl Barks story "The Sunken Yacht" (WDC 104).
This episode will premiere on Discovery Channel in the US on 3 November:
http://dsc.discovery.com/fansites/mythbusters/mythbusters.html
Kind regards,
Arthur
DCW: http://www.wolfstad.com/dcw
I mentioned a few months ago that a television show named Mythbusters used
60,000 ping pong balls this year to try and raise a 24-foot sailboat, after
the 1949 classic Carl Barks story "The Sunken Yacht" (WDC 104).
This episode will premiere on Discovery Channel in the US on 3 November:
http://dsc.discovery.com/fansites/mythbusters/mythbusters.html
Kind regards,
Arthur
DCW: http://www.wolfstad.com/dcw
Lars Jensen
French Disney weekly
Message 5 -
2004-11-02 at 17:52:52
Thanks for posting the article, Richard.
So Le Journal de Mickey now has "promotional gifts" like the Danish
weekly?! (Sigh!) Yeah, I know they're there for a good reason...
Lars
So Le Journal de Mickey now has "promotional gifts" like the Danish
weekly?! (Sigh!) Yeah, I know they're there for a good reason...
Lars
Travis Seitler
Reprints in WDC&S 650 and Donald Duck and Friends 273
Message 6 -
2004-11-02 at 18:18:58
Dean,
There's no need for concern - we haven't gotten THAT bad with reprints!
Your guess is right, in that this was only a mistake. Due to a scheduling
mix-up, "...Iron Pants" was tossed into the mix twice. We caught this error,
but only after the deadline for PREVIEWS solicitations. (Donald Duck &
Friends #324 will instead start off with "The Long Race to Pumpkinburg," a
10-page Barks story last published in the US in 1992.)
Travis Seitler
Art Director, Disney Comic Books
Gemstone Publishing
stravis at gemstonepub.com
> ----------
> From: dcml-bounces at stp.ling.uu.se on behalf of deanmary
> Sent: Monday, November 1, 2004 3:48 PM
> To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
> Subject: Reprints in WDC&S 650 and Donald Duck and Friends 273
>
> Supposedly Barks' "The Duck in the Iron Pants" is going to be in
> WDC&S 650 published in two days on November 3rd *and* is to reprinted
> *again* in DD&F 324 out three months from now! Some people may think
> I complain too much about reprints in Gemstone, but don't I have a
> point this time? :) Seriously though, I imagine "Duck in the Iron
> Pants" will only be in one of these issues, and that there was some
> kind of mistake. Can you let us know Gary? Thanks!
>
> Dean Rekich
>
> _______________________________________________
> http://stp.ling.uu.se/mailman/listinfo/dcml
>
>
There's no need for concern - we haven't gotten THAT bad with reprints!
Your guess is right, in that this was only a mistake. Due to a scheduling
mix-up, "...Iron Pants" was tossed into the mix twice. We caught this error,
but only after the deadline for PREVIEWS solicitations. (Donald Duck &
Friends #324 will instead start off with "The Long Race to Pumpkinburg," a
10-page Barks story last published in the US in 1992.)
Travis Seitler
Art Director, Disney Comic Books
Gemstone Publishing
stravis at gemstonepub.com
> ----------
> From: dcml-bounces at stp.ling.uu.se on behalf of deanmary
> Sent: Monday, November 1, 2004 3:48 PM
> To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
> Subject: Reprints in WDC&S 650 and Donald Duck and Friends 273
>
> Supposedly Barks' "The Duck in the Iron Pants" is going to be in
> WDC&S 650 published in two days on November 3rd *and* is to reprinted
> *again* in DD&F 324 out three months from now! Some people may think
> I complain too much about reprints in Gemstone, but don't I have a
> point this time? :) Seriously though, I imagine "Duck in the Iron
> Pants" will only be in one of these issues, and that there was some
> kind of mistake. Can you let us know Gary? Thanks!
>
> Dean Rekich
>
> _______________________________________________
> http://stp.ling.uu.se/mailman/listinfo/dcml
>
>
Gary Leach
DCML Digest, Vol 21, Issue 2
Message 7 -
2004-11-02 at 23:57:33
Dean:
> Supposedly Barks' "The Duck in the Iron Pants" is going to be in
> WDC&S 650 published in two days on November 3rd *and* is to reprinted
> *again* in DD&F 324 out three months from now!
This was a solicitation error. DD&F 324 will actually contain "The Long
Race to Pumpkinburg."
Gary
> Supposedly Barks' "The Duck in the Iron Pants" is going to be in
> WDC&S 650 published in two days on November 3rd *and* is to reprinted
> *again* in DD&F 324 out three months from now!
This was a solicitation error. DD&F 324 will actually contain "The Long
Race to Pumpkinburg."
Gary
Lunnan & Hjort
Last chance: Barks exhibition in Oslo
Message 8 -
2004-11-03 at 11:31:21
Today: last chance. An astounding 5,000 people have
visited the "Carl Barks: The Artist and the Story Teller"
at Serieteket. The "Barks-on-Wednesday" events have
also been very well visited. Last Wednesday Anders
Heger vs. Nils Lid Hjort. This evening: "Donaldism,
yesterday and today", with Jon Gisle, author of the quite
famous "Donaldismen" (1973), Tor ?demark, and
Jan P. Krogh.
http://nyhuus.deich.folkebibl.no/deichman/litt/tegn/carlbarks.html
This is also the last chance to challenge "Team Anton",
who has won the two last Barks Quiz competitions.
Awards to the winners, courtesy the Egmont company.
I understand that this exhbition will travel to Fredrikstad
(??) after this, before coming home to Helsinki. I'll give
more information about this later.
Nils Lid Hjort
visited the "Carl Barks: The Artist and the Story Teller"
at Serieteket. The "Barks-on-Wednesday" events have
also been very well visited. Last Wednesday Anders
Heger vs. Nils Lid Hjort. This evening: "Donaldism,
yesterday and today", with Jon Gisle, author of the quite
famous "Donaldismen" (1973), Tor ?demark, and
Jan P. Krogh.
http://nyhuus.deich.folkebibl.no/deichman/litt/tegn/carlbarks.html
This is also the last chance to challenge "Team Anton",
who has won the two last Barks Quiz competitions.
Awards to the winners, courtesy the Egmont company.
I understand that this exhbition will travel to Fredrikstad
(??) after this, before coming home to Helsinki. I'll give
more information about this later.
Nils Lid Hjort
Lars Jensen
Komiks.dk
Message 9 -
2004-11-04 at 00:27:46
Since we're talking about Disney creators making public appearances...
I'd like to remind every Danish list member that the comics convention
Komiks.dk happens *this weekend* in Frederiksberg! Lots of
comics-related people are scheduled to show up: Super-Ove, Rune T.
Kidde, Teddy Kristiansen, Peter Madsen, Sussi Bech, Peter Snejbjerg,
Henrik Rehr, Janry, Walthéry, Regis Loisel, Jeff Smith etc. etc.
And, from the world of Disney comics, Andreas Pihl, Flemming Andersen,
Jesper Lund Madsen, Niels Søndergaard, Freddy Milton, Thomas Schrøder
and yours truly are supposed to show up as well. This is your chance to
ask us all those Disney-related questions you've always wanted to know
the answers to. Maybe you'll even get some answers...
Details for Komiks.dk can be found at www.komiks.dk .
Lars
I'd like to remind every Danish list member that the comics convention
Komiks.dk happens *this weekend* in Frederiksberg! Lots of
comics-related people are scheduled to show up: Super-Ove, Rune T.
Kidde, Teddy Kristiansen, Peter Madsen, Sussi Bech, Peter Snejbjerg,
Henrik Rehr, Janry, Walthéry, Regis Loisel, Jeff Smith etc. etc.
And, from the world of Disney comics, Andreas Pihl, Flemming Andersen,
Jesper Lund Madsen, Niels Søndergaard, Freddy Milton, Thomas Schrøder
and yours truly are supposed to show up as well. This is your chance to
ask us all those Disney-related questions you've always wanted to know
the answers to. Maybe you'll even get some answers...
Details for Komiks.dk can be found at www.komiks.dk .
Lars
Fabio Blanco
Statuesque curiosity
Message 10 -
2004-11-04 at 08:01:41
what did happen with the rest of the Cornelius Coot's statues. What was the
one in feet? the bigger one? too big!
some history about that?
FABIO
bonvolu postu al longtom at oeste.com.ar
one in feet? the bigger one? too big!
some history about that?
FABIO
bonvolu postu al longtom at oeste.com.ar
Olaf Solstrand
Statuesque curiosity
Message 11 -
2004-11-04 at 08:33:29
> what did happen with the rest of the Cornelius Coot's statues.
I think the cruel truth about what happened to them is that the story they
were a part of suddenly ended. :-) Just like what happened to e.g.
Donald's swimming pool and other things appearing in Barks' story endings.
I think the cruel truth about what happened to them is that the story they
were a part of suddenly ended. :-) Just like what happened to e.g.
Donald's swimming pool and other things appearing in Barks' story endings.
Arthur
DCML Digest, Vol 21, Issue 4
Message 12 -
2004-11-04 at 12:59:21
Hi,
Donald D Markstein wrote:
> I don't think I need to say where the story originally came
> from -- a fact they acknowledged by showing pages from it,
> probably taken from one of the Gladstone albums.
About a half year ago someone of the production crew of Mythbusters asked me for these scans of the story. They had already shot the episode but they had actually not seen the Barks story itself yet.
I haven't seen the episode -- did the pages of the story look alright on TV?
Kind regards,
Arthur
DCW: http://www.wolfstad.com/dcw
Donald D Markstein wrote:
> I don't think I need to say where the story originally came
> from -- a fact they acknowledged by showing pages from it,
> probably taken from one of the Gladstone albums.
About a half year ago someone of the production crew of Mythbusters asked me for these scans of the story. They had already shot the episode but they had actually not seen the Barks story itself yet.
I haven't seen the episode -- did the pages of the story look alright on TV?
Kind regards,
Arthur
DCW: http://www.wolfstad.com/dcw
Donald D. Markstein
DCML Digest, Vol 21, Issue 4
Message 13 -
2004-11-04 at 14:59:45
Darnedest thing turned up on TV last night. There's this obscure cable
show called "Mythbusters", where they take some story element that's
achieved the status of "myth", and spend the entire show setting up
conditions to test whether or not it could really happen. An example is
the gag about someone holding too many helium balloons and floating
away, which we've seen many times in cartoons and comic books. Their
conclusion -- it would work, but take so many balloons (nearly 4,000 to
lift a 44-pound little girl) as to render it impractical. What they have
to go through to set up these conditions is often hilarious.
Last night, the main focus of the show was raising a sunken ship by
pumping it full of ping pong balls. I don't think I need to say where
the story originally came from -- a fact they acknowledged by showing
pages from it, probably taken from one of the Gladstone albums.
They started by establishing how much lift each ball gave, by putting a
pound of buckshot in a jar glued to an upside-down bowl, in a tank full
of water, then using tongs to fill the bowl with balls until it floated.
After a couple of tip-overs, they concluded that 15 balls could lift one
pound. Then they worked out how many they could get into a given volume,
versus how many it would take to raise a given wreck, and concluded that
it might work with a fiberglass sailboat, which they promptly bought and
sank in a nearby harbor. After experimenting to make sure the balls
could withstand the pressure, they cordoned off an area with nets (so no
unsuspecting sea creatures would choke on the balls), and engineered a
device to pump the balls in (which also took some experimenting). There
was a minor disaster when upward pressure pushed a panel out and
hundreds of balls escaped, but they managed to repair it.
They'd estimated it would take about 40-50,000 ping pong balls to raise
their boat, but it actually floated with a lot less. Conclusion: Yes, it
can be done, but it would cost more than the boat is likely to be worth.
Which, as I recall, is the same conclusion Barks came to more than half
a century ago.
(And by the way, I believe the Urban Legend about someone being denied a
patent on the basis of this earlier published description is true. About
30-35 years ago, when I was working for the New Orleans newspaper, I
wrote a story about a local diver who CLAIMED, at least, that had
happened to him. I got the assignment because I was the only one on
staff who could supply panels from the comic book to illustrate the story.)
Quack, Don
show called "Mythbusters", where they take some story element that's
achieved the status of "myth", and spend the entire show setting up
conditions to test whether or not it could really happen. An example is
the gag about someone holding too many helium balloons and floating
away, which we've seen many times in cartoons and comic books. Their
conclusion -- it would work, but take so many balloons (nearly 4,000 to
lift a 44-pound little girl) as to render it impractical. What they have
to go through to set up these conditions is often hilarious.
Last night, the main focus of the show was raising a sunken ship by
pumping it full of ping pong balls. I don't think I need to say where
the story originally came from -- a fact they acknowledged by showing
pages from it, probably taken from one of the Gladstone albums.
They started by establishing how much lift each ball gave, by putting a
pound of buckshot in a jar glued to an upside-down bowl, in a tank full
of water, then using tongs to fill the bowl with balls until it floated.
After a couple of tip-overs, they concluded that 15 balls could lift one
pound. Then they worked out how many they could get into a given volume,
versus how many it would take to raise a given wreck, and concluded that
it might work with a fiberglass sailboat, which they promptly bought and
sank in a nearby harbor. After experimenting to make sure the balls
could withstand the pressure, they cordoned off an area with nets (so no
unsuspecting sea creatures would choke on the balls), and engineered a
device to pump the balls in (which also took some experimenting). There
was a minor disaster when upward pressure pushed a panel out and
hundreds of balls escaped, but they managed to repair it.
They'd estimated it would take about 40-50,000 ping pong balls to raise
their boat, but it actually floated with a lot less. Conclusion: Yes, it
can be done, but it would cost more than the boat is likely to be worth.
Which, as I recall, is the same conclusion Barks came to more than half
a century ago.
(And by the way, I believe the Urban Legend about someone being denied a
patent on the basis of this earlier published description is true. About
30-35 years ago, when I was working for the New Orleans newspaper, I
wrote a story about a local diver who CLAIMED, at least, that had
happened to him. I got the assignment because I was the only one on
staff who could supply panels from the comic book to illustrate the story.)
Quack, Don
Cord Wiljes
Ping pong balls
Message 14 -
2004-11-04 at 17:28:35
Don Markstein wrote:
> They'd estimated it would take about 40-50,000 ping pong
> balls to raise their boat, but it actually floated with a
> lot less.
With known weight and volume of a single ping pong ball they
should surely have been able to exactly calculate this on
beforehand down to the last ping pong ball.
Or they could have taken a floating ship, stored it full of
ping pong balls and then flooded it. And see if the water
which now flows in the spaces between the ping pong balls
is too heavy for the ship and drowns it.
The floating jar was probably an unsufficient model because
it is very important to store the ping pong balls efficiently,
i.e. with as little space between the balls as possible. A lot
of balls will automatically take a more efficient packaging
because there are fewer walls per ball who could keep them from
the optimal packaging. I hope they counted the balls and not
just the total volume they filled with balls. Because packaging
can make a big difference there.
And they probably used pure water for their tests. Natural water
(especially sea water) has a higher density so the lifting power
of a ping pong ball is greater in the real ship than "in the jar".
Raising bigger (and heavier) ships will probably not be possible
because the higher ping pong balls would be be pressed to the top
floor of the ship too hard and thus be crushed.
The most efficient way top raise a sunken ship would probably be
to put a giant, empty ballon inside and pump it up below water.
Cord
> They'd estimated it would take about 40-50,000 ping pong
> balls to raise their boat, but it actually floated with a
> lot less.
With known weight and volume of a single ping pong ball they
should surely have been able to exactly calculate this on
beforehand down to the last ping pong ball.
Or they could have taken a floating ship, stored it full of
ping pong balls and then flooded it. And see if the water
which now flows in the spaces between the ping pong balls
is too heavy for the ship and drowns it.
The floating jar was probably an unsufficient model because
it is very important to store the ping pong balls efficiently,
i.e. with as little space between the balls as possible. A lot
of balls will automatically take a more efficient packaging
because there are fewer walls per ball who could keep them from
the optimal packaging. I hope they counted the balls and not
just the total volume they filled with balls. Because packaging
can make a big difference there.
And they probably used pure water for their tests. Natural water
(especially sea water) has a higher density so the lifting power
of a ping pong ball is greater in the real ship than "in the jar".
Raising bigger (and heavier) ships will probably not be possible
because the higher ping pong balls would be be pressed to the top
floor of the ship too hard and thus be crushed.
The most efficient way top raise a sunken ship would probably be
to put a giant, empty ballon inside and pump it up below water.
Cord
Fabio Blanco
Statuesque curiosity
Message 15 -
2004-11-04 at 20:55:31
> > what did happen with the rest of the Cornelius Coot's statues.
>
> I think the cruel truth about what happened to them is that the story they
> were a part of suddenly ended. :-) Just like what happened to e.g.
> Donald's swimming pool and other things appearing in Barks' story endings.
LOL! I think the same thing... Ok, that happens when you try to penetrate
the logic of the madmen ;-) or the most rabid fans.
Anyway, I imagine any artist who take that story like a reference must
wonder the same. How big is the statue?
FABIO
bonvolu postu al longtom at oeste.com.ar
>
> I think the cruel truth about what happened to them is that the story they
> were a part of suddenly ended. :-) Just like what happened to e.g.
> Donald's swimming pool and other things appearing in Barks' story endings.
LOL! I think the same thing... Ok, that happens when you try to penetrate
the logic of the madmen ;-) or the most rabid fans.
Anyway, I imagine any artist who take that story like a reference must
wonder the same. How big is the statue?
FABIO
bonvolu postu al longtom at oeste.com.ar