Keskustelujen arkisto

LOL I'm happy to see that french magazines I read have popularity in another
lands ! Hum, for the man who search Super Picsou Geant # 120, I think I have
it but I must verify that ('cause I have a lot of magazines, specially Picsou
magazine - do you know it ? we can read Barks and Rosa stories ! - and I
am lost in the middle of the mounts of papers ;-)
I have read anything about a FTP. I didn't know that this thing exists.
Who knows what we can find (or in the past ?) on it ?

Sorry for my bad english,

Phi Mc Goldie, a french *mademoiselle* reader

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>There is a special edition of the French Disney weekly specially made for its
>70th birthday. Some more information is available here:
>http://fr.outducks.org/jdmlesite/70ans.htm
>
>The weekly now sells a bit better after 3 years of loss. Here's an article
>(from Bertrand d'Armagnac) published yesterday on the daily le Monde (sorry
>it's in French). The writer doesn't seem to know almost all new Disney comic
>stories are made outside the US, and most of it in Europe.
>
>---------------
>
>A 70 ans, "Le Journal de Mickey" garde son rang dans la presse enfantine
>
>En cette fin du mois d'octobre, Le Journal de Mickey f?te ses 70 ans. Un ?ge
>canonique qui n'emp?che pas l'hebdomadaire de rester aux tout premiers rangs
>dans le petit monde des publications pour les 8-12 ans.
>
>Mi-2004, la diffusion pay?e du magazine atteignait 156 200 exemplaires, selon
>Diffusion Contr?le. Des performances ?loign?es des ventes de 550 000
>exemplaires qu'il affichait dans les ann?es 1950, mais qui marquent un l?ger
>mieux, apr?s quatre ann?es de baisse de 2000 ? 2003. Ce d?but de redressement
>est notamment d? au lancement d'une nouvelle maquette, en f?vrier 2003, et ?
>une campagne publicitaire ? la t?l?vision entre f?vrier et juin 2004. De
>plus, le magazine est souvent vendu avec un cadeau promotionnel.
>
>Sur une plus longue p?riode, plusieurs ingr?dients favorisent la long?vit? du
>Journal de Mickey. En premier lieu, la puissance des personnages de Disney :
>au fil des ans, la souris et ses amis ont vu leur aura soutenue par les
>productions - films et livres - du g?ant am?ricain. Un rouleau compresseur
>qui continue ? apporter de nouveaux fid?les en culottes courtes. Ensuite, il
>y a le savoir-faire d'Hachette. Le groupe d'?dition de presse, aujourd'hui
>filiale de Lagard?re, ?tait d?s le d?but au c?t? de Paul Winkler, patron
>d'Opera Mundi et cr?ateur du magazine en France, en 1934. Depuis 1991, Le
>Journal de Mickey est ?dit? par une soci?t? commune ? Hachette et Disney.
>
>Au cours des deux derni?res d?cennies, les deux soci?t?s ont pourtant affront?
>la concurrence grandissante de la t?l?vision. Et d'autres magazines pour
>enfants sont arriv?s sur le march?, ?dit?s par Bayard, Milan ou Fleurus. "Le
>Journal de Mickey a subi ? la fin des ann?es 1980 un vrai lifting pour
>r?pondre ? ces changements sur le march?", explique Nicolas Waintraub,
>directeur commercial de Disney Hachette Presse (DHP).
>
>OUVERT ? D'AUTRES SOURCES
>
>Aujourd'hui, ? la diff?rence des magazines Mickey d'autres pays, l'?dition
>fran?aise contient une partie r?dactionnelle importante. "Un tiers de BD, un
>tiers de jeux et un tiers de textes", note M. Waintraub. Le contenu s'est
>aussi ouvert ? d'autres sources que Disney. "Ses ?diteurs ont su faire
>?voluer le titre, notamment en int?grant les ?v?nements touchant les vedettes
>de la chanson et du petit ?cran", note Sandra Brisset, consultante chez Carat
>Expert Presse. Et, dans ses pages, le magazine propose des bandes dessin?es
>o? les personnages de Disney c?toient des cr?ations europ?ennes et
>fran?aises, comme C?dric ou l'?l?ve Ducobu, vedettes des cours de r?cr?ation.
>
>Pour r?pondre ? la segmentation du march? par ?ge et par sexe, DHP a par
>ailleurs profit? de l'audience du Journal de Mickey, dont le public est
>constitu? ? parts presque ?gales de filles et de gar?ons, pour lancer au fil
>des ann?es des publications s?urs, comme Winnie, pour les 3-7 ans, ou Witch
>Mag, pour les filles de 8 ? 13 ans.
>
>
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Nils:

> are there other trustworthy stories [...]
> But that story is apocryphical and cannot be trusted. [...]
> (Again, we cannot really believe
> Firestone 1948 as a genuine story, can we?)

Can you give a definition of which stories are trustworthy and which
aren't?
Apparently you're not talking about a written-by-Barks-only-universe,
since you also mention Mickey Mouse.

--Harry.

Sorry, next attempt!

>Anyway, when being asked about this I thought
>about our friends the Duckburgians. Do they believe
>in Santa? Does Mr Claus really exist, inside that universe?
>Let's put up a small list of hypotheses. I need the help
>of you DCMLers to reach answers. Be ready with your
>"yes" or "no" or "that's not clear" or "I need to ask dad"
>(and your pro et contra arguments).

There is a few 1-page Barks gags in which Donald buys the presents himself.
But maybe mighty Santa brings even more present for nephews (and Don)? I believe
that Santa lives at least in duck universe, im talking about these continuous
visits in north pole (or somewhere else), written by varying artists. Mouse
world is also a tough bit. Maybe conversation about this universe is nonsense
'cause it doesn't really include that many children.

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This discussion is sort of ironic, in that Gemstone Publishing's Mickey
Mouse and Friends #271 (December '04) has *two* Mickey/Santa stories. The
first ("Christmas Story") is from the '47 Firestone giveaway (I'm hearing
the '48 edition is apocryphal - is the '47 edition non-canon as well?), and
the other ("The Santa Skeptic") is a fairly new story.

In both stories Mickey believes in Santa. In the first, he tells Morty and
Ferdie about a trip to the North Pole where he interacts with Santa
personally; in the second, Mickey and Minnie refer to a story where Mickey
and Santa foiled the Phantom Blot's plan to "steal Christmas," and Doc
Static receives a message from Santa.

So, based on what I've seen recently, Mickey and Minnie believe in Santa.
Others may not, but they haven't fought evil villains with the Jolly
Gift-giver, either.

The story code for The Santa Skeptic is D2003-118; I couldn't tell you when
it first appeared in Europe since INDUCKS just went down, but the US edition
is shipping this week.

Hope that helps!
Travis Seitler
Art Director, Disney Comic Books
Gemstone Publishing
stravis at gemstonepub.com

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> From: dcml-bounces at stp.ling.uu.se on behalf of Ville Hietala
> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 9:51 AM
> To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
> Subject: does Santa exist?
>
> >Anyway, when being asked about this I thought
> >about our friends the Duckburgians. Do they believe
> >in Santa? Does Mr Claus really exist, inside that universe?
> >Let's put up a small list of hypotheses. I need the help
> >of you DCMLers to reach answers. Be ready with your
> >"yes" or "no" or "that's not clear" or "I need to ask dad"
> >(and your pro et contra arguments).
>
> Mouse world is also a tough bit. Maybe conversation about this universe is
> nonsense 'cause it doesn't really include that many children.
>
> Ville

Congratulations Nils.

What exactly is the award about/what's it for, etc.?

Also, does anybody know what happened to the website Eega Beeva's Magic
Pocket? Is it gone for good? Did it change address? I've been missing it for awhile
and haven't turned up where it could be (if it's still out there that is). I
should have saved all those cover photos and other items.

Derek Smith

with Don Rosa's Treasure of Croesus :-)

My life was wrapped around the circus.
Her name was Lydia.
I met her at the world's fair in 1900,
marked down from 1940.

Ah, Lydia.
She was the most glorious creature
Under the su-un.
Guiess. DuBarry. Garbo.
Rolled into one.

Oooooooh
Lydia oh Lydia, say have you met Lydia,
Lydia, the Tattooed Lady.
She has eyes that folks adore so,
And a torso even more so.

Lydia oh Lydia, that encyclopidia,
Oh Lydia the Queen of Tattoo.
On her back is the Battle of Waterloo.
Beside it the wreck of the Hesperus, too.
And proudly above waves the Red, White, and Blue,
You can learn a lot from Lydia.

La la la, la la la, la la la, la la la

When her robe is unfurled, she will show you the world,
If you step up and tell her where.
For a dime you can see Kankakee or Paris,
Or Washington crossing the Delaware.

La la la, la la la, la la la, la la la

Oh Lydia oh Lydia, say have you met Lydia,
Oh Lydia the Tattooed Lady
When her muscles start relaxin',
Up the hill comes Andrew Jackson

Lydia oh Lydia, that encyclopidia,
oh Lydia the queen of them all!
For two bits she will do a mazurka in jazz,
With a view of Niagara that nobody has.
And on a clear day you can see Alcatraz.
You can learn a lot from Lydia.

La la la, la la la, la la la, la la la

Come along and see Buff'lo Bill with his lasso.
Just a little classic by Mendel Picasso.
Here is Captain Spaulding exploring the Amazon.
Here's Godiva but with her pajamas on.

La la la, la la la, la la la, la la la

Here is Grover Whalen unveilin' the Trilon.
Over on the West Coast we have Treaure Island.
Here's Najinsky a-doin' the rhumba.
Here's her social security numba.

{whistles}La la la, la la la, la la la, la la la

Oh Lydia, oh Lydia that encyclopidia,
Oh Lydia the champ of them all.
She once swept an Admiral clear off his feet.
The ships on her hips made his heart skip a beat.
And now the old boy's in command of the fleet,
For he went and married Lydia.

I said Lydia
{He said Lydia}
They said Lydia
{We said Lydia}
La La!