Keskustelujen arkisto

I have a good friend here in the States who has what appears
to be the original cover to CHRISTMAS FOR SHACKTOWN.
We have discussed this over the years on whether this is a forgery or the real thing.
We never had the opportunity to contact Bruce Hamilton, and now that he's gone, we are wondering if perhaps anyone on the list might direct us to a source of knowledge who might shed some light on this mystery.

Thanks,

Michael Naiman

>
>Lars wrote:
>
>Bolivar/Bornworthy, Fethry and Goofy's nephew Gilbert appear regularly
>in the Scandinavian Donald Duck weekly.
>
>Lars

Oh my! So they do, it seems. My son, with a more accurate memory of
recent Donald Duck stories than myself, even remembers the Kari
Korhonen/Nunez Bolivar story referred to earlier. Tired of him, Donald
tells Bolivar to go back where he came from and the dog travels to
Switzerland. Nice idea!

Johan

A Skynny 14 years old girl was seated in a little wooden bench trying to
read her Tio Patinhas (Uncle Scrooge) comics, while
times go on.
Surrounding you, teen girls each one with his beauty kind, where fighting
for a space on the dressing room mirror to check makeup and hair.
The comics reader was a girl with an outsider surname, deustchland heritage,
look like less accustomed with the celebrities world than the others girls
at the "Look of the Year " regional final , in 19 august 1994, Porto Alegre,
Brazil. "I?m here because my mother wants it" said Gisele, while reading her
Comics.

Gisele B?ndchen startup her first step in model carrer in a 30 models girls
competition, recruited by Elite Models Company.
Because her skills and charm on the catwalk, the girl who was
there only because her mother, go far away. In the 10 best girls group, she
went next month to the The look of the Year National Final, in S?o Paulo,
and she got the second place .
The winner was Cl?udia Menezes, 14 years old, from Bahia.

The Gisele Bundchen history today is Knowledge by many people.
From her 22 years old, she is the top model in the planet. She arrived in
New York in 1996, only speaking six words english language, and won the
world.
Nothing bad for a girl who was only looking for a peacefulness
place to enjoy her Tio Patinhas (Uncle Scrooge) Comics.

Wrote by Dirceu Alves Jr, journalist from Isto? Gente magazine
12/30/02
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I and all the brazilian comics fans are under red alert.

Help us with your influence, to keep the brazilian Disney Comics Quality.
The aim is to offer possibilities to another journalist
to write beautiful histories like this in brazilian cities, in the future.

Alexandre Saramelli

I would like to know is here anybody else who would like to read a story
about the nephwefs to fll in love. I think that would be very cute nd
original. I've never read such a story.

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On Saturday August 20, Alexandre Samarelli wrote:>Situation is not good in
brazilian subsidiary of McDuck Enterprises . Unfortunately, Disney Comics in
Brazil is in an advanced death penalty process.

On Thursday, August 25, Alexandre Samarelli wrote: >I and all the brazilian
comics fans are under red alert. Help us with your >influence, to keep the
brazilian Disney Comics Quality.

Could you tell us some more about this "red alert" situation, you seem very
concerned about? I'm afraid I didn't quite understand the fully extend of
this. Is your local Disney comics publisher in danger of closing, or is this
simply a case of them doing too many reprints of old stories and too few new
ones, and you not liking it? Or is it the quality of new stories, you are
concerned about?

Best regards, Ole Daamgard

Dear Mr. Ole Daamgard and all DCML friends

I thank you for the ask, and curiosity. It?s good to share this situation
with the international Disney Comics Fans, because, some times there are
things only fans are able to observe.
And with your help we become more stronger to our voice be heard.

In the first place, I?m going to comment some aspects we observe as readers
(customers) in Disney Comics brazilian market, and after, my personl opinion
about the causes :

Disney comics used to be for many years the top selled products for our
local publisher, the Editora Abril. From a small publisher in 50's and
60's, Editora Abril turned the first brazilian publisher, with an enormous
industrial and commercial operation.
Since the end of the local comics histories production, the comics quality
is decreasing each month. When I say "quality decreasing ", I?m not saying
about the quality of histories. I?m saying about the quality of print
product, distribuition , promotion and sales structure :

- Pages are being cutted. The Tio Patinhas magazine for example, used to be
printed with 130 pages. Since April 2004 , 100 pages, and this month,
august, only 80 pages.

- There?s no more promotion . In the past, the new magazines used to be
promoted via TV advertisements, Now, nothing. Even a little paper
advertisement in newsstands are made.

- There?s no more publicity. In the past, each comics used to receive
advertisment by strong companies like Nestle. Today, nothing.

- There?s no more people commenting about the stories. Childrens, and teens,
generally, buy another publishing products.

- There?s no more subscriptions. The magazines are only selled in the
newsstands. And newsstands generally don?t sale as sucessful as
subscriptions systems are .

And since this month, Editora Abril promoted nonsense decisions :

The traditional Almanaque Disney was finished . Almanaque Disney was so
famous than Topolino is in Italy. In it?s place they began Aventuras Disney,
with only 80 pages.

And the worst off all decisions : They decided to sectorize the
distribuition. I explain :
They print the comics, send only to the southeast cities ( the richest
brazilian cities, like S?o Paulo, Rio de Janeiro and Belo Horizonte), and
after three months, they are going to send the non selled comics in another
brazilian cities.
This decision causes an exclusion feeling in brazilian readers that live on
"sectorized" cities. If you live in Porto alegre or in Salvador, you are
under a "second class reader" sensation.

And now, let?s analyse the causes :

First of all, Editora Abril created some years ago, new magazines for the
children public : Revista Recreio, and Witch. Both of them are receiving all
kind of sales efforts. The Disney Comics are completely outside of the
process.

Second ; Disney Brasil company don?t work integrated with Editora Abril.
Disney Brasil promote only the new Disney characters, and forgot the
traditionals. Mr Marcos Rosset, the Disney Brasil President as I obsorve,
only acts on the Disney Channel Closed TV .

And the main problem : They planned the Disney comics to be as cheaper as
possible. It?s wrong. The real whisper is to act on the "reader quality
perception".
Because promotion less, people dont?t see quality on the comics.
So, they don?t buy comics! It?s possible to put the best histories ever
time created by Disney Artists, and to sale with the cheaper price , people
are not going to buy.

Brazilian Comics market, if good management, is a very profitable market.
At the same time, I think we are on the point of no return. The next step,
if nothing professional is done, is to finish the comics production.

To finish a comics magazine like Uncle Scrooge, in a country where 85 % of
new enterprises dies in it?s first 5 years old is a crime. Uncle Scrooge is
the only business world character , who gives the opportunity to talk about
business world subjects to children young and adults. obviously I love Uncle
Scrooge as a fan, but talking with professional vision : We need characters
like Uncle Scrooge.

Under this situation I ask for all : See with special care the decisions are
taken by the Editora Abril and Disney Brasil?s executives .

Alexandre Saramelli
S?o Paulo - SP - Brasil

Alexandre Saramelli is 32 years old, and is an accountant.
Alexandre and his father Darcy Saramelli, 74 , loves Disney Comics,
specially Uncle Scrooge Character.

Laura Alioravainen writes:

> I would like to know is here anybody else who would like to
> read a story
> about the nephwefs to fll in love. I think that would be very cute nd
> original. I've never read such a story.

And I reply:

I know you didn't ask who would NOT like to read such a story, but I'll
stick my nose in anyway.

The nephews are too young to develop real love, and I think a youthful crush
is not in keeping with their all-boy, girl-hating characters. DUCKTALES on
TV came up with Webigail, a young female duck meant to encourage girls'
interest in the show. While she sometimes seemed to get the boys to like
her as more than a fellow adventurer, I cannot recall these efforts ever
paying off.

If you are suggesting that Huey, Dewey, or Louie should actually become
romantically involved with a girl, I repeat that they are not nearly old
enough. To introduce such a storyline sets them up as role models for real
kids of their age to do the same thing. Romance is a dangerous game, and we
have enough trouble with movies and TV shows encouraging youngsters to think
they are grown-up enough for a relationship meant for adults.

Let the kids act like kids in the comics. I'm quite content with the idea
that Duck comics hold constant to the notion that Donald should be faithful
to Daisy (even if she displays occasional jealousy due to a
misunderstanding), that $crooge can carry a torch for someone for decades,
and that the nephews don't want girl-cootie infections. That is the world I
knew as a boy, and I hope never to see that world change.

I realize your question was a perfectly innocent one, Laura, and your
opinion of what is entertaining is just as valid as mine. All the same, I
don't want Duck comics turned into TEEN BEAT, especially since the boys
aren't even teenagers.

Old fogey Dan

Laura Alioravainen wrote:

> I would like to know is here anybody else who would like to read a story
> about the nephwefs to fll in love. I think that would be very cute nd
> original. I've never read such a story.

Recommended reading: "Qui, Quo, Qua e il tempo delle mele" (I'm assuming
you're Finnish - the story was printed in Aku Ankan Taskukirja 130)

http://coa.inducks.org/story.php/x/I+TL+1688-A

There, one of the nephews (Huey according to Inducks) falls in love with a
niece of Daisy (not April, May or June), and the story is mostly about
Dewey and Louie trying to save their pal and brother from the oh so
horrible cooties and get him back to his senses before it's too late.
Personally, I think the whole idea of ONE of them falling in love while
the others still think of girls as water balloon target practice and
something you should stay far away from is much better than a story with
all three of them falling in love.

Old fogey Dan wrote:

> The nephews are too young to develop real love, and I think a youthful
> crush is not in keeping with their all-boy, girl-hating characters.

OK. They are how old? 68 this fall? :-)

Seriously, as much as I partly agree with you, I think that one should be
open for more flexibility. How old are Huey, Dewey and Louie? Aw, who
cares? In the Duck universe, very few things are pinpointed. Things are
so flexible to give a wider range of possible stories. Should we need to
place Duckburg in the middle of a desert, we do although it was by the
coast last month. Do we need Donald to be single, he is. Why doesn't that
same thing go for the characters' ages?

Both Taliaferro and Barks showed Huey, Dewey and Louie driving Donald's
car, and some of the more experienced in here will probably say I'm wrong,
but in my opinion driving a car is a more dangerous game for a preteen
than falling in love for the first time. Sure, she's bound to break your
heart, but in most cases you still come out of it with all other limbs in
one piece.

Of course, I'm not saying that I'd like to see Huey, Dewey and Louie
involved in heavy french kissing or other such things, but I don't really
see the problem in stories where our favourite nephews in the whole wide
world have small crushes on girls.

Even Calvin occationally has some feeling that vaguely resembles a crush
for Susie. And he's six years old.

Maciek wrote:

> In some Don Rosa storys ["The Three Caballeros ride agian" and "The
> Guardians of the Lost Library" ] it was shown that HD&L are afraid/hate
> girls. It was funny... Yet It fell very wierd - since how guys who are sow
> clever and Iteligent can be sow in-mature?

Hey. Cooties have nothing to do with cleverness, intelligence or maturity.
Cooties are a matter of survival. Don't say you've NEVER hated girls as a
child? Girls aren't scary, they're just creepy. They're very different
from us normal human beings, you know. With their dolls and stuffed
animals and tea partys (and not the kind where the soldiers dress up as
Indians) and other gross habits.

(I assume all female members of the list are sophisticated enough to see
the irony in what I'm writing. I've had many cootie infections since I was
a child.)

Otherwise, I would love to read the "GIRLS" chapter of the Junior
Woodchuck Guidebook. :-)

my twenty-six cents,
Olaf