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It sounds like the events that asaramelli reports are happening in
Brazil are very similar to what already happened here in the USA.

I really don't know what to suggest.

- Tor

While being a colleague of Gorm Transgaard at Egmont years ago, I remember him
showing me a story , in which Louie had a crush on a girl in school, and the other two
brothers try to get him "back on track". It was drawn by one of the Spanish Studio
artists. I
believe it was published in all the Scandinavian
countries in 1992 or 1993. It was probably also published in Germany. I don't think we
published it in The Netherlands to this date. I don't think it's been published in USA.
One can look it up in
COA-Inducks.

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KUR wrote:

> Yet! It would be a funny story if HD&L would get in love in much older
> girl... maby sombody well k'now like Dicki, Magica, Brigitta or Daisy
> [I would be hellerius if she would prefer Huey rather then Donald or
> Gladstone ] :-)

Duck-version of "The Graduate" is flashing in front of my eyes. Huey as
Dustin Hoffman... Please, somebody take it out my head!

SANTIAGO ASKS:

>
> Dan Shane:

> So, you were not in love when you were a child? What a
> sad-sad childhood you had! ;-)

AND I EMPHATICALLY RESPOND:

Oh, no! I had a delightful childhood -- better than most kids I knew!

I had plenty of interaction with girls while attending Lyndon Elementary
School, but it was purely of the "let's play cowboys and Indians" or "let's
be pirates today" nature. I had no conception of what love was except what
I saw in movies on television, and that was always the boring part of any
show for me. It was nice that Cary Grant seemed to like Eva Marie Saint in
NORTH BY NORTHWEST, but all I wanted was for them to get to Mount Rushmore
and start climbing!

Peter Pan had no use for Tiger Lily or Wendy as romantic girlfriends, and I
understood perfectly why not. Looking back as an adult I naturally feel
differently, but at that age Wendy was only good for telling adventure
stories, and Tiger Lily was just another Indian to capture or be captured
by. The girls naturally had different ideas, but not Peter!

I suppose you think Peter had a sad life. From an adult point of view you
are probably right. But Peter the perpetual child vehemently feels
otherwise. To ask him to have romantic notions is to completely obliterate
what makes him Peter Pan. The nephews are no different (in my mind), and I
had precisely the same view at that early age. I was having grand
adventures, not mushy interludes that bogged down the action.

I'll turn the tables, Santiago. I feel sorry for kids who hurry up their
lives and pretend that they are emotionally mature enough to get involved in
the way many adults seem to think is "cute." These are the young ones who
are in such a rush to be grown up that the girls are having ducklings in
junior high school, and the boys are dropping out to take minimum wage jobs
to support their unwanted quackers. "Love" (as it is erroneously labeled
for anyone of that age) is robbing kids of their childhood. There is PLENTY
of time for that later, but the days of carefree adventure are perilously
short.

SANTIAGO CONTINUES:

> > Let the kids act like kids in the comics.
>
> No, that's not so: If you take a look at HDL's attitude in
> many Barks stories you'll see they behave much more like
> adults than Donald or Scrooge.
> Remember:
> -Who encourages Donald to solve the giant serpent's mystery
> instead of madly playing the flute?
> -Who find the way out of the Creta's laberynth by taking care
> of laying a thread all the input way through?
> -Who recues Donald and Scrooge from the larkies'
> attack?
> -Who got to extinguish the fire in the house while fireman
> Donald run spreading the fire here and there?
> -Who... (etc)?

AND I DISAGREE:

You are comparing apples and oranges. All these are instances of the
nephews' MENTAL acuity, not EMOTIONAL maturity. The figurative heart has
nothing to do with the logical head.

SANTIAGO AGAIN:

> IMHO, HDL do not act like "kids", but as *sensitive* youngmen
> or adults. They are not shown behaving as
> *actual* kids, but as we wished our children to behave.

AND ME:

The nephews act just as I behaved at their approximate age. I read
voraciously, loved to travel (either literally in the back seat of my
father's 1953 Nash Ambassador or virtually through the twin lenses of my
beloved View-Master), and dug for "treasure" on my grandparents' farms or in
my back yard. I did NOT fall in love or indulge in kissing girls. Where is
the fun in that?

I was certainly sensitive to the feelings of my parents and other grown-ups,
and I wanted them to be happy. I figured being obedient (as much as
pre-teen child can be) would contribute to that. It was not until my late
teens that I developed a mildly rebellious spirit that caused my parents to
worry. As a small boy I was (according to everyone else's report) wonderful
to be around because of the joy I found in life. I want the nephews always
to exhibit that joy, not get bogged down in the mire of romance.

I understand that others find puppy love "cute." But that is an adult's
perspective. I don't want to see the nephews through the eyes of a
grown-up; I want to remember what it was like to be a kid. Slobby kisses
and sappy love-poems are NOT part of the extremely happy childhood I recall
so fondly.

Dan (walking wistfully down Memory Lane)

Lars, in reply to Maciek:
>>>>A very small group of people -- most of whom are
readers, rather than
comic book creators -- have privately claimed that
April, May and June
*might* be cousins of Huey, Dewey and Louie. I've
never heard of a
single story where it is explicitly stated that AMJ
and HDL are indeed
cousins. And hopefully I never will.

As I recall April, May and June are introduced (in
Barks' "flipism" story) as Daisy Duck's nieces. If, in
addition they ARE actually cousins of HD&L, Donald and
Daisy might in fact be closer related than we've
thought all these years... perhaps that's why they
never got married?
An intriguing thought suggests itself: Donald and
Daisy could actually be the SAME person :)

Kristian

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Wow, I didn't realise that this was a subject for such intrest. Ofcourse I
wasn't talking about serious, deep lovestory, I just meant that they having
a crush may be a fun story.

And yes I'm finnish:D (I hope I wrote that right=/) And thanks for your
storytips.

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At 16:48 30.08.2005 -0400, David Gerstein wrote:
> Hey Maciek,
>
> > In evry story I seen, I olweys Imagent that HD&L are like 9-10 yers old...
> > They seam look to be this age.
> >
> For me, the "mature" HDL of the mid-1950s always struck me as being
>around 12 or 13. But then, my view of the nephews has always been colored,
>too, by the first cartoon I ever saw them in- LUCKY NUMBER, where they seem
>to be teens, drive Donald's car, and want one of their own.
>
> > Yet! It would be a funny story if HD&L would get in love in much older
> > girl... maby sombody well k'now like Dicki, Magica, Brigitta or Daisy
> >
> Yikes! Sounds scary! Dickie is like a big sister to the boys, and
>just the thought of them falling for Magica or Brigitta... O-8
> On the other hand, in the earliest days, the nephews DO seem to have
>some kind of vague romantic interest in Daisy. Long before that "Aunt Daisy"
>stuff got started, there were cartoons like MR. DUCK STEPS OUT where the
>kids actually seem to want to beat Donald's time and have Daisy to
>themselves, for apparently romantic reasons...
>
> David

In Barks' "In Old California", it certainly seems like Panchita is making
the blood run faster in HDL's veins (and Donald's)! But then again, they
are not in love with her, only charmed. Instead they support Ronaldo's efforts.
But of course, the whole thing was just some kind of dream.
A brilliant story!

Halsten