This week, a new Mau Heymans story, about Donald as violinplayer, has been
published in Dutch weekly 'Donald Duck'15-2006. Written by him and Kirsten
de Graaf.
http://coa.inducks.org/story.php/x/H+24069
During the making of the script, in 2004, Mau asked me to proofread and
criticize rough versions of this story and a few others. First, there came
faxes of a version where the symphony only was a little side-gag in the
text: "De Onvolmaakte" by composer "Schubner". (The title "De Onvolmaakte"
means, more or less, "The Imperfect" or "The Unfullfilled".) I imagined it
to be some unfinished famous composition, as left by a deceased classic
composer, as the reference to (I guess) Schubert and Wagner seemed to
suggest. In a following version Mau removed the title and Schubner from the
text, and I suggested what I hoped he had in mind when referring to a
composition with such a remarkable, funny title. Mau decided to work it out
and made other changes in the ending, expanding the script from 6 pages to 8
pages, like adding panel 7.3. My idea resulted in panels 8.3-8.6 (second and
third tier). Difference is that I suggested a notable critic/expert to
appear, instead of the composer himself. The composer now is named "Diederik
van Swiete". (In the last version I saw of the script, the composer's name
is "Ludwig van Zweethoven" and "Van Eendhoven".)
Dani?l
"Alle dissonanten!"
Author
Topic: 200604
(105 messages)
D.M. Van Eijmeren
New "Imperfect" story by Mau Heymans
Message 16 -
2006-04-09 at 19:42:40
Goofy313g
McDuck.nl
Message 17 -
2006-04-09 at 20:23:41
D.M. van Eijmeren :
>>>Were I like to be for Disney discussions is http://forum.mcduck.nl.
>>>On McDuck.nl, messages appear on internet within a few seconds.On DCML it
>>>seems like one has to go through an eternity before one can appear. That's
>>>so old-fashioned. For me that's a main reason why I seldomly visit DCML.
That's just what I was discussing about a few days ago on dcml irc chat!
I also noticed that DCML frequentation isn't what it was, and that we should
think about making it a bit more modern, easy readable, at least for the
archives.
I think we should make something more "forumistic" with the archives, and
also easily searchable, as it should appear as one of the best Disney comics
source on the web, and it's AFAIK one of the only place where we can seriously
discuss Disney comics in English... Moreover, it would make it something more
viewable for everyone on the web, not only the active members who, so far, can be
the only ones who know where to find in the archives a specific message...
And the example I had in mind were also McDuck.nl Daniel just mentionned, as
well as Disney comicforum.de, which both seem to be real good forums, but where I
can hardly understand a word, as I don't speak German, nor Dutch...
Well, It's easy to say that when I don't know anything about how to create
and maintain a real forum, but I think that's something we could all think about
and suggest solutions...
Of course, the content itself is more important than the way it looks, but I
keep thinking it cannot stay that way...
Eventually, maybe the dcml members who have Disney related activities other
than the mailing list could send some little posts from time to time, like
reports or such...
Best regards to you all,
Gilles R. Maurice
>>>Were I like to be for Disney discussions is http://forum.mcduck.nl.
>>>On McDuck.nl, messages appear on internet within a few seconds.On DCML it
>>>seems like one has to go through an eternity before one can appear. That's
>>>so old-fashioned. For me that's a main reason why I seldomly visit DCML.
That's just what I was discussing about a few days ago on dcml irc chat!
I also noticed that DCML frequentation isn't what it was, and that we should
think about making it a bit more modern, easy readable, at least for the
archives.
I think we should make something more "forumistic" with the archives, and
also easily searchable, as it should appear as one of the best Disney comics
source on the web, and it's AFAIK one of the only place where we can seriously
discuss Disney comics in English... Moreover, it would make it something more
viewable for everyone on the web, not only the active members who, so far, can be
the only ones who know where to find in the archives a specific message...
And the example I had in mind were also McDuck.nl Daniel just mentionned, as
well as Disney comicforum.de, which both seem to be real good forums, but where I
can hardly understand a word, as I don't speak German, nor Dutch...
Well, It's easy to say that when I don't know anything about how to create
and maintain a real forum, but I think that's something we could all think about
and suggest solutions...
Of course, the content itself is more important than the way it looks, but I
keep thinking it cannot stay that way...
Eventually, maybe the dcml members who have Disney related activities other
than the mailing list could send some little posts from time to time, like
reports or such...
Best regards to you all,
Gilles R. Maurice
Francesco Spreafico
McDuck.nl
Message 18 -
2006-04-09 at 22:03:31
D.M. van Eijmeren wrote:
> Were I like to be for Disney discussions is http://forum.mcduck.nl.
> On McDuck.nl, messages appear on internet within a few seconds.On
> DCML it seems like one has to go through an eternity before one can
> appear. That's so old-fashioned. For me that's a main reason why I
> seldomly visit DCML.
The point is that this being a mailing list, I don't have to visit
anything at all. While a forum, I *do* have to visit, and that's why I
seldomly visit them.
Francesco
> Were I like to be for Disney discussions is http://forum.mcduck.nl.
> On McDuck.nl, messages appear on internet within a few seconds.On
> DCML it seems like one has to go through an eternity before one can
> appear. That's so old-fashioned. For me that's a main reason why I
> seldomly visit DCML.
The point is that this being a mailing list, I don't have to visit
anything at all. While a forum, I *do* have to visit, and that's why I
seldomly visit them.
Francesco
Frank Stajano
McDuck.nl
Message 19 -
2006-04-09 at 22:19:48
Francesco Spreafico wrote:
> The point is that this being a mailing list, I don't have to visit
> anything at all. While a forum, I *do* have to visit, and that's why I
> seldomly visit them.
I agree completely. That's why I never follow web boards, blogs and all
that stuff. A mailing list just comes in and sometimes, when I have a
moment, I even read it. But "pull" stuff, I'd never keep up with it,
plus there's no easy way to archive it or answer offline.
--
Frank Stajano http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/users/fms27/
> The point is that this being a mailing list, I don't have to visit
> anything at all. While a forum, I *do* have to visit, and that's why I
> seldomly visit them.
I agree completely. That's why I never follow web boards, blogs and all
that stuff. A mailing list just comes in and sometimes, when I have a
moment, I even read it. But "pull" stuff, I'd never keep up with it,
plus there's no easy way to archive it or answer offline.
--
Frank Stajano http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/users/fms27/
Ole Damgaard
Dorellik and Paperinik
Message 20 -
2006-04-10 at 00:54:01
Luca Boschi wrote:
>Well, Ole and Sprea (and Frank), it's a sure fact! Elisa Penna told me
>this fact personally in a conversation with her when she was still in
>charge at Disney, befere our writing of the "I Disney Italiani" book.
Thanks, Luca, for enlightening us! :-)
Best regards, Ole.
>Well, Ole and Sprea (and Frank), it's a sure fact! Elisa Penna told me
>this fact personally in a conversation with her when she was still in
>charge at Disney, befere our writing of the "I Disney Italiani" book.
Thanks, Luca, for enlightening us! :-)
Best regards, Ole.
Perel.Yves
The origin of Paperinik
Message 21 -
2006-04-10 at 11:56:45
We can notice that this website is also available in english on this page :
http://en.duckipedia.org/index.php/Main_Page
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matthias Meckel" <m.meckel at gmail.com>
To: <dcml at nafsk.se>
Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: The origin of Paperinik
> If you can read German, or the babel.altavista.com translation - which
> might be even more difficult ;) - you might be interested in this
> article http://www.duckipedia.de/index.php/Phantomias
> It contains (some) information about the origins of the old and the
> new Paperinik.
>
> MM
>
>
>
http://en.duckipedia.org/index.php/Main_Page
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matthias Meckel" <m.meckel at gmail.com>
To: <dcml at nafsk.se>
Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: The origin of Paperinik
> If you can read German, or the babel.altavista.com translation - which
> might be even more difficult ;) - you might be interested in this
> article http://www.duckipedia.de/index.php/Phantomias
> It contains (some) information about the origins of the old and the
> new Paperinik.
>
> MM
>
>
>
Ole Damgaard
McDuck.nl
Message 22 -
2006-04-10 at 19:56:52
Gilles wrote:
>...we should
think about making it a bit more modern...
>...we should make something more "forumistic"...
Please don't. I like the old-fashioned mailing list. At discussion forums,
you have to access a lot of webpages to discuss. The list is a much simpler
and less time-consuming way to communicate.
Gilles wrote:
>...easily searchable...
>...only the active members who, so far, can be
the only ones who know where to find in the archives a specific message...
You can search the archives with Google groups:
http://groups.google.com/group/fa.disney-comics?lnk=lr
/od
>...we should
think about making it a bit more modern...
>...we should make something more "forumistic"...
Please don't. I like the old-fashioned mailing list. At discussion forums,
you have to access a lot of webpages to discuss. The list is a much simpler
and less time-consuming way to communicate.
Gilles wrote:
>...easily searchable...
>...only the active members who, so far, can be
the only ones who know where to find in the archives a specific message...
You can search the archives with Google groups:
http://groups.google.com/group/fa.disney-comics?lnk=lr
/od
Per Starbäck
DCML Digest, Vol 38, Issue 5
Message 23 -
2006-04-11 at 14:42:52
> From: "D.M. van Eijmeren" <dve at kabelfoon.nl>
> Will you still restore the missing data of approximately
> 1995-1999?Best,Dani?l
I don't know. Probably not soon. Maybe sometime. Possibly never.
> But my past two messages of today still haven't turned up in
> the online DCML archives. How can one discuss and contribute this way?
> It's quite impossible.
It's quite possible, but different forums work in different ways.
Use whatever suits you best. Impatience like that is rather out of
place on a mailing list that most subscribers prefer to read in daily
digests anyway.
--
Per Starback
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
> Will you still restore the missing data of approximately
> 1995-1999?Best,Dani?l
I don't know. Probably not soon. Maybe sometime. Possibly never.
> But my past two messages of today still haven't turned up in
> the online DCML archives. How can one discuss and contribute this way?
> It's quite impossible.
It's quite possible, but different forums work in different ways.
Use whatever suits you best. Impatience like that is rather out of
place on a mailing list that most subscribers prefer to read in daily
digests anyway.
--
Per Starback
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
D.M. Van Eijmeren
McDuck.nl
Message 24 -
2006-04-11 at 19:01:52
As a little test to see what happens, there's an English topic on McDuck.nl:
'Discussion Carl Barks in English'
http://forum.mcduck.nl/viewtopic.php?id=2043
"Antwoorden": Reply. (link at top and bottom of page)
"Citeren": Quote.
Page after choosing for "Antwoorden"-link:
"Naam:" Name (or Alias)
"E-mail:" E-mail. (can be skipped)
"Verzenden": Submit
"Voorbeeld": Example
De software of McDuck.nl runs on PunBB. http://www.punbb.org/
People who know that software, will easily find their way.
Daniel
'Discussion Carl Barks in English'
http://forum.mcduck.nl/viewtopic.php?id=2043
"Antwoorden": Reply. (link at top and bottom of page)
"Citeren": Quote.
Page after choosing for "Antwoorden"-link:
"Naam:" Name (or Alias)
"E-mail:" E-mail. (can be skipped)
"Verzenden": Submit
"Voorbeeld": Example
De software of McDuck.nl runs on PunBB. http://www.punbb.org/
People who know that software, will easily find their way.
Daniel
Stefan Persson
McDuck.nl
Message 25 -
2006-04-11 at 19:16:03
On 2006? 4 12 () 1:01 am, D.M. van Eijmeren wrote:
> As a little test to see what happens, there's an English topic on
> McDuck.nl:
> 'Discussion Carl Barks in English'
> http://forum.mcduck.nl/viewtopic.php?id=2043
A few questions:
* How do I read replies to that topic without having to go to a website
all the time, and without having to be online whilst reading?
* How do I archive the replies in a useful way?
* How do I write replies offline, for automatic submission once I go online?
Stefan
> As a little test to see what happens, there's an English topic on
> McDuck.nl:
> 'Discussion Carl Barks in English'
> http://forum.mcduck.nl/viewtopic.php?id=2043
A few questions:
* How do I read replies to that topic without having to go to a website
all the time, and without having to be online whilst reading?
* How do I archive the replies in a useful way?
* How do I write replies offline, for automatic submission once I go online?
Stefan
Francesco Spreafico
McDuck.nl
Message 26 -
2006-04-11 at 21:39:05
D.M. van Eijmeren wrote:
> As a little test
But what for? People who like forums are already there. People who don't
are not and won't be. People who just don't care are probably on both
(or none).
I, for one, also am on the Italian Disney forum (Papersera), but I sure
check it less often than any of my mailing lists.
Francesco
> As a little test
But what for? People who like forums are already there. People who don't
are not and won't be. People who just don't care are probably on both
(or none).
I, for one, also am on the Italian Disney forum (Papersera), but I sure
check it less often than any of my mailing lists.
Francesco
D.M. Van Eijmeren
McDuck.nl
Message 27 -
2006-04-12 at 01:38:05
Stefan:
<* How do I read replies to that topic without having to go to a website
all the time, and without having to be online whilst reading?
* How do I archive the replies in a useful way?
* How do I write replies offline, for automatic submission once I go
online?>
That's indeed a problem.
Francesco Spreafico:
<But what for? People who like forums are already there. People who don't
are not and won't be. People who just don't care are probably on both
(or none).>
It could be a way to get internetfora more connected internationally.
Dani?l
<* How do I read replies to that topic without having to go to a website
all the time, and without having to be online whilst reading?
* How do I archive the replies in a useful way?
* How do I write replies offline, for automatic submission once I go
online?>
That's indeed a problem.
Francesco Spreafico:
<But what for? People who like forums are already there. People who don't
are not and won't be. People who just don't care are probably on both
(or none).>
It could be a way to get internetfora more connected internationally.
Dani?l
D.M. Van Eijmeren
Real-time discussions
Message 28 -
2006-04-12 at 01:48:22
Per Starb?ck:
<Use whatever suits you best. Impatience like that is rather out of
place on a mailing list that most subscribers prefer to read in daily
digests anyway.>
What does this have to do with impatience, Per? The advantage of internet is
that one can have real-time discussions, also on mailing lists. In the past
it was possible to get answers on DCML within minutes.
Dani?l
<Use whatever suits you best. Impatience like that is rather out of
place on a mailing list that most subscribers prefer to read in daily
digests anyway.>
What does this have to do with impatience, Per? The advantage of internet is
that one can have real-time discussions, also on mailing lists. In the past
it was possible to get answers on DCML within minutes.
Dani?l
Goofy313g
Dell Giant # 55 / Walt Disney Comics Digest # 41
Message 29 -
2006-04-12 at 03:01:29
Hi!
I wondered if anyone of you could provide the original name of Grandma's
cousin who appears in W?DG???55-02 (he's called Skovmand in Danish)
thanks!
Gilles R. Maurice
http://calisota.org
I wondered if anyone of you could provide the original name of Grandma's
cousin who appears in W?DG???55-02 (he's called Skovmand in Danish)
thanks!
Gilles R. Maurice
http://calisota.org
Goofy313g
Need help for some Brazilian characters...
Message 30 -
2006-04-12 at 03:05:37
Hi again!
I wondered if some Brazilian fellows could provide scans and/or informations
on the following specifically Brazilian characters :
B 770235 : relatives of Gus
B 790131 + B 850091 : Penael Bung, an ancestor of Fethry
B 830195 :? MacPatacon, Scrooge's distant cousin
B 860081 : Gyro's mother
B 910356 :? probably something of interrest
B 930082 :? Calamity Daisy, ancestress of Daisy
uuh.. thanks!
a list of other stories I need is available here :
http://goofy313g.free.fr/missing.html
Gilles R. Maurice
http://calisota.org
I wondered if some Brazilian fellows could provide scans and/or informations
on the following specifically Brazilian characters :
B 770235 : relatives of Gus
B 790131 + B 850091 : Penael Bung, an ancestor of Fethry
B 830195 :? MacPatacon, Scrooge's distant cousin
B 860081 : Gyro's mother
B 910356 :? probably something of interrest
B 930082 :? Calamity Daisy, ancestress of Daisy
uuh.. thanks!
a list of other stories I need is available here :
http://goofy313g.free.fr/missing.html
Gilles R. Maurice
http://calisota.org