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Thanks, Michiel, I wasn't aware of those messages!
about the 1932 date, I had never noticed this! thanks!

the 1957 date makes it closer to Ludwig's arrival, so It's all good :-)

Gilles

I dunno why, but what I see in the first posting is
"An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available
Url: http://nafsk.se/pipermail/dcml/attachments/20060412/ddbe22e6/attachment.pl"

Of course, I realized later that if I clicked on the URL link it brought up my
message. *shrug*... never saw that happen before.

The same thing occurred the second attempt to post, the one you are replying to
(and it will probably occur with this one too). I guess there is a settings issue
that I never encountered before, so, for me, all my posts appear as "scrubbed"
(though I can access them by clicking on the link that is in the note saying my
post was scrubbed. What's up with that???

Thanks,

Rich
(Email removed)

On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 14:45 , Stefan Persson sent:

>On 2006? 4 12 () 11:16 pm, Rich wrote:
>> Hmmmm... I don't know why my last message was "scrubbed", but let's try
>> this
>> again...
>
>Hm, nothing was "scrubbed" for me, I received your previous mail and all
>its contents in the way it was supposed to be (or so I believe).
>
>What did this "scrubbing" do to your mail? Did I miss some of the
>contents (and if so, what part of it)?
>
>Stefan
>

---- Msg sent via CWNet - http://www.cwnet.com/

Dani?l, if you want to have VERY direct response, you can still visit the "dcml" chat channel (irc; as announced here several times in the past).
irc.inducks.org, channel #dcml.

--Harry.

I must say that if I were to choose, I'd keep the DCML a mailing list,
for many of the same reasons that have already been given here. But
mainly because, as much as I like various existing web forums, I also
simply forget to visit many of them regularly, which means that unread
messages pile up quickly. That's a main difference between the two
concepts: With web forums, I have to actively go visit some web page
again and again to keep up -- with a mailing list, the messages keep
rolling into a seperate folder in my mailbox by themselves.

But I was wondering: Wouldn't it be possible to add web forum features
to the DCML? This way, for people who like mailing lists, it would be
exactly the same mailing list as it has always been, and people who like
web forums better would be able to read and send messages from/to the
DCML via a web interface. I am afraid that if there are two main
discussion forums about Disney comics (mailing list and web forum), both
will suffer from it, and people will have to subscribe to both if they
don't want to miss anything.

I have done a quick Google search for web extensions to the "mailman"
software which is used by the DCML, but without finding anything useful.
However, if someone with the proper skills can offer some time, and
Per/NAFS(k) allow it, perhaps such an extension can be written and
implemented?

Thomas

Does somebody remembers a Barks, Rosa or another story in which Scrooge tells
this or something close to Donald while getting mad at him???
(I'd need this panel for a sculpture project for school, and I haven't been
able to find the good story :-( )

Thanks!

Gilles R. Maurice
http://calisota.org

I guess I should say something as regards all the fun discussion here about
the exact dates and relations of the Ducks, sometimes as regards my stories.

I *really* enjoy Gilles' attempts to construct a *complete* Duck Family Tree
including *everything* anybody ever wrote or drew (which was published!).
It's a massive task and can't ever work completely, but it's fun to watch
him try to construct the framework and figure it all out. It's the sort of
thing I used to enjoy myself when I had more time and energy for this.

I also enjoy his loving attempts to put exact dates on my stories. And he's
welcome to try. We have also enjoyable private discussions on the subject
frequently. But what I should mention is that my *own* view corresponds with
what Michiel Prior and (particularly) Olaf Solstrand wrote in the previous
Digest. For my own amusement, I try to put exact years on any "Life of
$crooge" story I create. Because, to me, these are events of a specific and
definite "past". I think I look upon the line between that which is set in
stone as being a year or so after $crooge meets Donald & HD&L in late
1947... therefore, take the year 1950 as a nice even year-date. My stories
set in the "present" are taking place *sometime* after 1950. But each
exactly when? No, I envision them as happening in a very general "present",
in a swirl of early-mid 1950's, sort of all at the same time in an abstract
manner like Olaf said. I try to never contradict myself (or my view of
Barks' stories) when dealing with those "Lo$" tales. But if you try to
determine in what order my "present" stories take place, you might be
confounded, because I never worry if I'm putting trophies in the background
of one story that couldn't really be there yet if another story took place
first or later or whatever. Likewise, I had LOTS of fun creating the
blueprints of the Money Bin, but I sure as heck don't try to force myself to
follow my own plans when I stage a scene in the place... the rooms exist in
a "blur" that fits somehow inside of that general framework of concrete &
steel the way my stories take place in that "blur" of early 1950's years. I
enjoy seeing people trying to make sense out of it, and I'm pleased if they
manage, but if they do I think it's a miracle.

In fact, Olaf put it so well that I can't improve on his explanation: my
stories take place in "a kind of blur in time. Everything happens
approximately at the same time, the order is not that important, and the
dating can be altered with in coming stories... Basically, to make the whole
idea work, one has to mix it all up and just say that everything is
happening at about the same time, without giving an exact year for it. Just
like in Asterix stories -- we know they're happening about year 50 B.C., but
apart from that it's all a big blob where everything is happening at the
same time -- and that is how I think Rosa stories should be read (only ...
2000 years later, of course)."

I also enjoy reading such speculative discussions since I can always get
better or more ideas -- such as Michiel Prior's suggestion that Ludwig Von
Drake is not married to Matilda. I've always favored the idea that they are
married -- it seems very logical that Matilda could meet LVD after she moved
back to Europe/Scotland sometime between 1930 and 1949... I figured he was
on a lecture tour during "A Letter from Home", though he was missing mainly
because his sudden presence would have confused the main plot. But maybe
he's called Donald's "Uncle" only because he is a distant relative, a "great
uncle" -- perhaps Dabney Duck (Grandma Duck's deceased hubby) came to
America leaving a sister back in the Old Country who married a Von Drake and
had a son named Ludwig? Since I have never actually put my idea that LVD and
Matilda are married *into a story*, I can always change my mind... after
all, the editor stopped me from including LVD as Matilda's hubby in my
Family Tree, and that would tend to be "official" evidence that it's *not*
so, and I should avoid it? Sometimes fans write me long messages asking me
if I might agree with this or that idea of Duck Family relations or story
dates, and while I say that this or that sounds great, I refrain from giving
a definite opinion because I want to be able to not make any final decision
until such point as I need to enter the "fact" *into* a story. Why rush
things?

After all, I sometimes confuse *myself* and REALLY screw up my own facts.
Case in point, which was also just mentioned here -- that panel in "Letter
from Home" that clearly sets the year-date of the McDuck family break-up as
1932. I recall that someone had persuaded me that 1932 was the proper year
for that occurrence... but now I can't recall how or why... or maybe I just
lost my head for a moment... "I panicked"! But when I reviewed the dialogue
for the 2005 Gemstone "Lo$" volume, I tried to restore that chapter 11 to
the year I had originally intended it to take place -- 1930.

So, that's how I see my stuff, though I love to read Gilles' ideas also.
Like Olaf said, "But hey, the discussions can be fun anyway ... :-)".
But... much more fun in a Mailing List (to touch on that other current
topic), where we can have leisurely, thoughtful discussions under the
supervision of a moderator. We've seen how well that works thanks to Per and
NAFS(k).

Derek wrote (quoting Previews Volume XVI #3):
> Donald Duck and Friends #340 --- May is Donald's "birthday,"
> so [...]

Uhm. How did *that* happen?

Olaf the Blue