> From: S?ren Krarup Olesen
> IRC is the original chat, introduced back in the 70s I think. Extremely
> simple for the beginner and still provides advanced functionality for
> the more experienced user. As Gilles mentioned, chatting is in general
> for kids (especially Messenger), while I find IRC more "adult like". In
> fact IRC is also technically very different from Messenger since by
> default you write to a forum (the channel/chatroom). Also all kinds of
> moderations are possible by the maintainers.
Just a slight correction. Not that it really matters, but since IRC is
another great Finnish invention, I just had to... :)
IRC was created in 1988 by Jarkko Oikarinen. There were several chat type
programs before that, although mainly on BBS systems, and they were mainly
local (had to connect to a certain BBS to be able to chat). For more
information, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat
I'm a Usenet & mailing list type of gal myself, IRC is for the new kids
(well, I use it at work to chat with my co-workers). :) The problem with
real time chats is that you really need to be more or less in the same time
zones as most of the chatters, or you are left out (nobody there when you
wake up), or the discussions become more localized.
//Christina
Author
Topic: 200604
(105 messages)
Christina Hellström
Real-time discussions
Message 76 -
2006-04-20 at 14:53:21
H.W.Fluks
"Reply-to" in list e-mails
Message 77 -
2006-04-20 at 18:45:24
Nuno:
> I think
> setting the "Reply-To" header in the e-mailing list program
> would help
> avoiding some issues (e.g. messages going directly to
> personal e-mails that should have been addressed to DCML).
This has been discussed here, years ago.
The reply-to is not set to the list, to avoid that PRIVATE messages go
to the DCML list by mistake.
This is worse than the other way around!
--Harry.
> I think
> setting the "Reply-To" header in the e-mailing list program
> would help
> avoiding some issues (e.g. messages going directly to
> personal e-mails that should have been addressed to DCML).
This has been discussed here, years ago.
The reply-to is not set to the list, to avoid that PRIVATE messages go
to the DCML list by mistake.
This is worse than the other way around!
--Harry.
Bror Hellman
Hannibal Hound Dog
Message 78 -
2006-04-21 at 09:04:00
A little dog-question.
Hard Haid Moe's Dog is called "Hannibal Hound Dog" in English in some
indexes.
In the few american issues I have Moe calls him "Houn' Dawg" and INDUCKS
doesn't
index what he is called in specific stories. So, I wonder if anyone can tell
me
one or two stories where the dog clearly is called "Hannibal" in english.
Prefferrably the first time if anyone knows which story he was first named.
// Steamboat Willie
Hard Haid Moe's Dog is called "Hannibal Hound Dog" in English in some
indexes.
In the few american issues I have Moe calls him "Houn' Dawg" and INDUCKS
doesn't
index what he is called in specific stories. So, I wonder if anyone can tell
me
one or two stories where the dog clearly is called "Hannibal" in english.
Prefferrably the first time if anyone knows which story he was first named.
// Steamboat Willie
H.W.Fluks
Hannibal Hound Dog
Message 79 -
2006-04-21 at 14:11:48
Bror wrote:
> Hard Haid Moe's Dog is called "Hannibal Hound Dog" in English in some
> indexes. I wonder if anyone can tell me
> one or two stories where the dog clearly is called "Hannibal"
> in english.
There are probably *no* stories.
Here's what David wrote to me, a few weeks ago:
<<
For many years we inducksers have called Hard Haid Moe's dog
"Hannibal Hound Dog." This came about because the dog was called
Hannibal in several different European translations of S 64099. Since
the name Hannibal is common in English, we concluded that
it must be his English first name, and that the other publications
took it from the original.
Since all other S-coded stories called the character just Hound
Dog or Houn' Dawg, we took that to be his surname. Thus, Hannibal
Hound Dog.
We should eliminate "Hannibal" in the English name [in INDUCKS].
David
>>
And that's what we did. The Houn' dawg is not called Hannibal anymore in
Inducks.
Until we have proof of an English text with that name.
--Harry.
> Hard Haid Moe's Dog is called "Hannibal Hound Dog" in English in some
> indexes. I wonder if anyone can tell me
> one or two stories where the dog clearly is called "Hannibal"
> in english.
There are probably *no* stories.
Here's what David wrote to me, a few weeks ago:
<<
For many years we inducksers have called Hard Haid Moe's dog
"Hannibal Hound Dog." This came about because the dog was called
Hannibal in several different European translations of S 64099. Since
the name Hannibal is common in English, we concluded that
it must be his English first name, and that the other publications
took it from the original.
Since all other S-coded stories called the character just Hound
Dog or Houn' Dawg, we took that to be his surname. Thus, Hannibal
Hound Dog.
We should eliminate "Hannibal" in the English name [in INDUCKS].
David
>>
And that's what we did. The Houn' dawg is not called Hannibal anymore in
Inducks.
Until we have proof of an English text with that name.
--Harry.
David Gerstein
Hannibal Hound Dog
Message 80 -
2006-04-21 at 17:24:18
Hey Harry,
In quoting me re: the hound dog formerly known as Hannibal, you
quoted me incompletely, and I'm not sure if readers will understand
why I came to the conclusion I did. I hope you won't mind if I
present a little bit more of my reasoning (the angle-bracketed
section was missing before):
* * * * *
For many years we inducksers have called Hard Haid Moe's dog
"Hannibal Hound Dog." This came about because the dog was called
Hannibal in several different European translations of S 64099. Since
the name Hannibal is common in English, we concluded that it must be
his English first name, and that the other publications took it from
the original.
Since all other S-coded stories called the character just Hound
Dog or Houn' Dawg, we took that to be his surname. Thus, Hannibal
Hound Dog.
{ Unfortunately... [in the original] English version of S 64099
[...] the dog is in fact only called Hound Dog in it! No Hannibal in
English anywhere.
So... the name Hannibal appearing in several different
translations of S 64099 indicates only that [some non-English
editions of the story were] translated from another non-English
edition, rather than from the English original. )
We should eliminate "Hannibal" in the English name [in INDUCKS].
David
In quoting me re: the hound dog formerly known as Hannibal, you
quoted me incompletely, and I'm not sure if readers will understand
why I came to the conclusion I did. I hope you won't mind if I
present a little bit more of my reasoning (the angle-bracketed
section was missing before):
* * * * *
For many years we inducksers have called Hard Haid Moe's dog
"Hannibal Hound Dog." This came about because the dog was called
Hannibal in several different European translations of S 64099. Since
the name Hannibal is common in English, we concluded that it must be
his English first name, and that the other publications took it from
the original.
Since all other S-coded stories called the character just Hound
Dog or Houn' Dawg, we took that to be his surname. Thus, Hannibal
Hound Dog.
{ Unfortunately... [in the original] English version of S 64099
[...] the dog is in fact only called Hound Dog in it! No Hannibal in
English anywhere.
So... the name Hannibal appearing in several different
translations of S 64099 indicates only that [some non-English
editions of the story were] translated from another non-English
edition, rather than from the English original. )
We should eliminate "Hannibal" in the English name [in INDUCKS].
David
H.W.Fluks
Hannibal Hound Dog
Message 81 -
2006-04-21 at 17:42:51
David:
> I hope you won't mind if I
> present a little bit more of my reasoning
Of course not. It's your own text! 8-)
--Harry.
> I hope you won't mind if I
> present a little bit more of my reasoning
Of course not. It's your own text! 8-)
--Harry.
Søren Krarup Olesen
A cup of art
Message 82 -
2006-04-23 at 02:54:57
Who drew this:
http://raptus.dk/tmp/cup.jpg
I know that there is *so* much merchandise around, but I got this one as
a present (just got 40), and I really enjoy it. Unlike much other
similar material it looks rather new, the artwork that is. It has some
unfinished non-inked look, but that might be fake.
I was thinking of Ferioli or Rodriguez but as with comic book covers,
it's always difficult to identify art style.
Anyone?
S?ren
http://raptus.dk/tmp/cup.jpg
I know that there is *so* much merchandise around, but I got this one as
a present (just got 40), and I really enjoy it. Unlike much other
similar material it looks rather new, the artwork that is. It has some
unfinished non-inked look, but that might be fake.
I was thinking of Ferioli or Rodriguez but as with comic book covers,
it's always difficult to identify art style.
Anyone?
S?ren
Stefan Persson
Japanese "Mickey Mouse Comic"
Message 83 -
2006-04-23 at 09:46:21
Does anyone know how many issues Egmont made of their Japanese
publication "Mickey Mouse Comic" (and how they are numbered)? I have
managed to obtain issues 6-10 and 12 from 1999, and 1-2 from 2000.
According to issue 6/1999, it's the second issue since the beginning, so
this suggests that the first issue would be issue 5/1999 (the issues are
numbered after the months they were published in, so the first issue
doesn't have to be numbered issue 1), and the fine print in issues 10
and 12 from 1999 tell that they are issues 6 and 8 since the beginning
respectively, so that would suggest that there is an issue 11/1999.
Were there any issues published after issue 2/2000, or am I only missing
two issues (namely 5/1999 and 11/1999)?
Stefan
publication "Mickey Mouse Comic" (and how they are numbered)? I have
managed to obtain issues 6-10 and 12 from 1999, and 1-2 from 2000.
According to issue 6/1999, it's the second issue since the beginning, so
this suggests that the first issue would be issue 5/1999 (the issues are
numbered after the months they were published in, so the first issue
doesn't have to be numbered issue 1), and the fine print in issues 10
and 12 from 1999 tell that they are issues 6 and 8 since the beginning
respectively, so that would suggest that there is an issue 11/1999.
Were there any issues published after issue 2/2000, or am I only missing
two issues (namely 5/1999 and 11/1999)?
Stefan
Søren Krarup Olesen
Real-time discussions
Message 84 -
2006-04-24 at 16:23:06
Christina Hellstr?m wrote:
>> IRC is the original chat, introduced back in the 70s I think. [snip]
> Just a slight correction. Not that it really matters, but since IRC is
> another great Finnish invention, I just had to... :)
I was aware that it was Finnish, but the dating was slightly wrong ;-)
> IRC was created in 1988 by Jarkko Oikarinen. There were several chat type
> programs before that, although mainly on BBS systems, and they were mainly
> local (had to connect to a certain BBS to be able to chat). For more
> information, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat
Yes, but I never considered BBS as part of the Internet, more like part
of the telephone net :-) (wondering if there are any active BBS systems
left out there...) IRC was and is (to me at least) the original chat
thingy from which so many other chat systems have developed.
> I'm a Usenet & mailing list type of gal myself, IRC is for the new kids
> (well, I use it at work to chat with my co-workers).
(/me assuming you're not a "new kid" anymore)
Anyway, I did the same last year with my students. Since I am always
online with my PC (!= always behind the screen), it seems like the
optimal way of communicating with a group of people.
> [snip] real time chats is that you really need to be more or less in the same time
> zones as most of the chatters, or you are left out (nobody there when you
> wake up), or the discussions become more localized.
Correct, but in our case, we do have a nice log facility, so that
everything said can be accessed by a webpage.
Explanations and a bit of help at http://irc.inducks.org/
For those who know what to do already, do try:
Server: irc.inducks.org
Port: 6667
Best,
S?ren
>> IRC is the original chat, introduced back in the 70s I think. [snip]
> Just a slight correction. Not that it really matters, but since IRC is
> another great Finnish invention, I just had to... :)
I was aware that it was Finnish, but the dating was slightly wrong ;-)
> IRC was created in 1988 by Jarkko Oikarinen. There were several chat type
> programs before that, although mainly on BBS systems, and they were mainly
> local (had to connect to a certain BBS to be able to chat). For more
> information, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat
Yes, but I never considered BBS as part of the Internet, more like part
of the telephone net :-) (wondering if there are any active BBS systems
left out there...) IRC was and is (to me at least) the original chat
thingy from which so many other chat systems have developed.
> I'm a Usenet & mailing list type of gal myself, IRC is for the new kids
> (well, I use it at work to chat with my co-workers).
(/me assuming you're not a "new kid" anymore)
Anyway, I did the same last year with my students. Since I am always
online with my PC (!= always behind the screen), it seems like the
optimal way of communicating with a group of people.
> [snip] real time chats is that you really need to be more or less in the same time
> zones as most of the chatters, or you are left out (nobody there when you
> wake up), or the discussions become more localized.
Correct, but in our case, we do have a nice log facility, so that
everything said can be accessed by a webpage.
Explanations and a bit of help at http://irc.inducks.org/
For those who know what to do already, do try:
Server: irc.inducks.org
Port: 6667
Best,
S?ren
Søren Krarup Olesen
A cup of art
Message 85 -
2006-04-24 at 16:28:01
Jeff LeRose wrote:
> It looks like Mike Royer to me.
> He spent many years doing the promotional art for Disney and I have a few
> signed pieces that have the same style of Mickey.
> Or it could be someone who just copied his style.
In the meanwhile I found Mike Royer's home page
http://michaelroyer.com/
and contacted the fella. Unfortunately he didn't recognise the art
style. Hm!
S?ren
> It looks like Mike Royer to me.
> He spent many years doing the promotional art for Disney and I have a few
> signed pieces that have the same style of Mickey.
> Or it could be someone who just copied his style.
In the meanwhile I found Mike Royer's home page
http://michaelroyer.com/
and contacted the fella. Unfortunately he didn't recognise the art
style. Hm!
S?ren
Travis Seitler
Gemstone Publishing: This Month
Message 86 -
2006-04-25 at 01:14:20
Hello everyone!
I wanted to let everyone here know about a little something I'm working on:
I'm taking advantage of a site called Squidoo to get information on
Gemstone's monthly books out to an audience that may not hear about them
otherwise. It started out innocently enough, but my "This Month" page is now
ranked #410 in the entire site (approximately 25,000 pages, covering topics
as diverse as Horse Racing, Chocolate Obsessions and Learning Russian)! The
pages are:
Gemstone Publishing: Disney Comics
<http://www.squidoo.com/gemstone_comics/>
Gemstone (Disney) Comics: This Month
<http://www.squidoo.com/gemstone_comics_thismonth/>
Please let me know what you think! Oh, and it would be great to see some
character-specific "lenses" on Squidoo, too! Any Magica de Spell or Fethry
fans want to take a stab at it? ;)
// Travis Seitler
travis at webseitler.com
I wanted to let everyone here know about a little something I'm working on:
I'm taking advantage of a site called Squidoo to get information on
Gemstone's monthly books out to an audience that may not hear about them
otherwise. It started out innocently enough, but my "This Month" page is now
ranked #410 in the entire site (approximately 25,000 pages, covering topics
as diverse as Horse Racing, Chocolate Obsessions and Learning Russian)! The
pages are:
Gemstone Publishing: Disney Comics
<http://www.squidoo.com/gemstone_comics/>
Gemstone (Disney) Comics: This Month
<http://www.squidoo.com/gemstone_comics_thismonth/>
Please let me know what you think! Oh, and it would be great to see some
character-specific "lenses" on Squidoo, too! Any Magica de Spell or Fethry
fans want to take a stab at it? ;)
// Travis Seitler
travis at webseitler.com
David Gerstein
A cup of art
Message 87 -
2006-04-25 at 05:31:55
S?ren,
> I was thinking of Ferioli or Rodriguez but as with comic book covers,
> it's always difficult to identify art style.
>
> Anyone?
I believe this is a John Loter Mickey Mouse drawing from a
Disney Standard Characters style guide, c. 1998. I'm not sure whether
you're seeing an actual Loter pencil drawing, though, or someone else
tracing Loter's inks to create something new in a pencil-sketched style.
Best, David
> I was thinking of Ferioli or Rodriguez but as with comic book covers,
> it's always difficult to identify art style.
>
> Anyone?
I believe this is a John Loter Mickey Mouse drawing from a
Disney Standard Characters style guide, c. 1998. I'm not sure whether
you're seeing an actual Loter pencil drawing, though, or someone else
tracing Loter's inks to create something new in a pencil-sketched style.
Best, David
Jeanmarcbano
Story recommendations
Message 88 -
2006-04-25 at 14:10:38
Hello, to all, it seems there is a problem with the list of the votes :
1- some stories appear twice on the list at different places with different ratings.
2- i can't rate some stories, apparently there is not a way to rate them yet (or is it a technical problem ?), for example Mickey 'the reluctant pirate'.
3- Last time i took a look at the ratings system, i wasn't able to see the stories rated between 100 and 200, it seems they have disappeared.
1- some stories appear twice on the list at different places with different ratings.
2- i can't rate some stories, apparently there is not a way to rate them yet (or is it a technical problem ?), for example Mickey 'the reluctant pirate'.
3- Last time i took a look at the ratings system, i wasn't able to see the stories rated between 100 and 200, it seems they have disappeared.
Elaine Ramshaw
Sqidoo page & Daringly Different
Message 89 -
2006-04-25 at 18:27:10
Travis, Thanks for the link to the Squidoo page with the Gemstone previews!
If you keep it up, I won't have to plead with Derek Smith to keep putting
the previews on DCML (and thanks to Derek for doing that!).
I was delighted to see that the upcoming WDCS 668 has "Daringly Different"
in it. The blurb calls it "much requested"; I know it has been much
requested by me, at any rate (in letters written to Gladstone & Gemstone).
It's one I've loved since childhood, and unlike most of the Daisy Duck
Diaries stories, it's not dependent on sexist stereotypes. The different
house she designed (as drawn by Carl Barks) fascinated me in childhood, and
delights me now.
Elaine
If you keep it up, I won't have to plead with Derek Smith to keep putting
the previews on DCML (and thanks to Derek for doing that!).
I was delighted to see that the upcoming WDCS 668 has "Daringly Different"
in it. The blurb calls it "much requested"; I know it has been much
requested by me, at any rate (in letters written to Gladstone & Gemstone).
It's one I've loved since childhood, and unlike most of the Daisy Duck
Diaries stories, it's not dependent on sexist stereotypes. The different
house she designed (as drawn by Carl Barks) fascinated me in childhood, and
delights me now.
Elaine
Elaine Ramshaw
Sqidoo page & Daringly Different
Message 90 -
2006-04-26 at 02:12:00
Travis, Thanks for the link to the Squidoo page with the Gemstone previews!
If you keep it up, I won't have to plead with Derek Smith to keep putting
the previews on DCML (and thanks to Derek for doing that!).
I was delighted to see that the upcoming WDCS 668 has "Daringly Different"
in it. The blurb calls it "much requested"; I know it has been much
requested by me, at any rate (in letters written to Gladstone & Gemstone).
It's one I've loved since childhood, and unlike most of the Daisy Duck
Diaries stories, it's not dependent on sexist stereotypes. The different
house she designed (as drawn by Carl Barks) fascinated me in childhood, and
delights me now.
Elaine
If you keep it up, I won't have to plead with Derek Smith to keep putting
the previews on DCML (and thanks to Derek for doing that!).
I was delighted to see that the upcoming WDCS 668 has "Daringly Different"
in it. The blurb calls it "much requested"; I know it has been much
requested by me, at any rate (in letters written to Gladstone & Gemstone).
It's one I've loved since childhood, and unlike most of the Daisy Duck
Diaries stories, it's not dependent on sexist stereotypes. The different
house she designed (as drawn by Carl Barks) fascinated me in childhood, and
delights me now.
Elaine