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Francesco Spreafico
David Gerstein wrote:

> I'm glad somebody noticed our Scarpa/Cavazzano Ellsworth short
> in MICKEY MOUSE ADVENTURES 10! And Scarpa's Ellsworth will be back
> again later this month with a longer story in WALT DISNEY TREASURES.

And I see (on Amazon) more Scarpa coming on Uncle Scrooge the following
months!

Lars Jensen's "The Keeper of Babylon Gardens" on US 359
(http://coa.inducks.org/story.php/x/D+D+2002-002)
and
Carlo Chendi's "The Big Christmas Giveaway Giveaway" on US 360
(Certainly Paperino e il premio di bont?:
http://coa.inducks.org/story.php/x/I+TL++369-A)

Let's see if I can sum up what I know about these months for Scarpa in
the US:

Already out:
- Mickey Mouse and the Photonic Muffler (MM 290, 06/2006)
http://coa.inducks.org/story.php/x/XU+GEM+106
- Foxy Hunters (MMA 10, 07/2006)
http://coa.inducks.org/story.php/x/I+TL++430-B (Original
title: Quel drittone di Gancio)

Upcoming:
The Incredibile Black Comet! (MM 292, 08/2006)
http://coa.inducks.org/story.php/x/I+TL++339-A (Original title: Eta Beta
e la cometa al fenantrone)
The Delta Dimension (MMA 11, 09/2006)
http://coa.inducks.org/story.php/x/IS+TL++206-A (Original title:
Topolino e la Dimensione Delta)
AKA Cormorant Number Twelve (Walt Disney Treasures - Disney Comics: 75
Years of Innovation, 08/2006)
http://coa.inducks.org/story.php/x/I+TL++517-B (Original title: Gancio
cormorano di fiducia
The Keeper of Babylon Gardens (US 359, 11/2006)
http://coa.inducks.org/story.php/x/D+D+2002-002
The Big Christmas Giveaway Giveaway (US 360, 12/2006)
http://coa.inducks.org/story.php/x/I+TL++369-A (Original title: Paperino
e il premio di bont?)

Am I missing something?

Francesco
Gary Leach
Rich:

> Given that, I?d much prefer to see ?Super? Daisy or rather Papernika
> debut under a much more clever name like the CRIMSON QUACKETTE, or
> better yet,
> since Donald emulates Batman in his ?Dark Knight? persona, thus
> Daisy could sync
> up with Batman?s dark prot?g? The Huntress, taking on the name
> ?DUCK HUNTRESS?
> (which is actually quite funny when you think about it!).

DUCK HUNTRESS! I like it!

Unfortunately (yeah, party-pooper time again), it too readily
references DC's "Huntress" for comfort (DC's or Gemstone's). And the
glitch with "Crimson Quackette" is it's a trifle too color-specific,
which is too bad because it has a great rhythm.

Gary
Kimba1962
I noticed Dickie Duck's appearance in "Healthy Choice" (though it was a little surprising she wasn't mentioned by name, unlike Garvey Gull [who??]). It was also nice to see Herbert again.
Overall, the latest MMA was one of the strongest issues of that title. Kudos to Gemstone.
Chris Barat
Victor B A
I looked at wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Superheroes)
And looked for such names. I found out one super hero called Web Woman. Why
not Webbed Woman for Daisy?

On 7/12/06, Gary Leach <bangfish at cableone.net> wrote:

Rich:

> Given that, I?d much prefer to see ?Super? Daisy or rather Papernika
>
> debut under a much more clever name like the CRIMSON QUACKETTE, or
>better yet,
>
> since Donald emulates Batman in his ?Dark Knight? persona, thus Daisy
>could sync
>
> up with Batman?s dark prot?g? The Huntress, taking on the name ?DUCK
>HUNTRESS?
>
> (which is actually quite funny when you think about it!).

DUCK HUNTRESS! I like it!

Unfortunately (yeah, party-pooper time again), it too readily references
DC's "Huntress" for comfort (DC's or Gemstone's). And the glitch with
"Crimson Quackette" is it's a trifle too color-specific, which is too bad
because it has a great rhythm.

Gary

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Rich
David said:

> Thus I don't think Daisy would modify her superhero name
> with an old-fashioned feminine diminutive like "-ette"...

I understand your point (and Daisy's rationale), though my intention was only to give a feminine sounding name. And, since
Paperinika is simply a feminization of Paperinik, then the logical translation of Paperinika is... what? .... Duck Avengeress? ;-) I
hope not.

A female duck is a "hen" and I can't imagine any moniker utilizing "hen" sounding very good, without making the reader question
why Daisy thinks she's a "chicken". ;-)

RE: Huntress. Yah I've been following DC for a long, long time and knew of Huntress' former origin (the daughter of Batman &
Catwoman of Earth-2). Still, in the current post-Crisis incarnation, Batman is hardly pleased with how Huntress has turned out...
She's basically chosen her OWN path, one which doesn't include ties to Batman.

Thanks,

Rich
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Olaf Moriarty Solstrand
Chris Barat wrote:
> unlike Garvey Gull [who??]

Hmm... Let's see if my memory of that story serves me correctly ... This
guy?
http://www.disney.no/DonaldDuck/andeby/portretter/tobben/index.html

If so ... his Egmont name is Sonny Seagull. He's a homeless kid and a
friend of Huey, Dewey and Louie. In INDUCKS he's described as "a sort of
Huckleberry Finn as a birdface character who co-stars with HDL". According
to the same database, he has appeared in fourteen stories (and I just read
a fifteenth that's not inducksed yet). His main function, as I see it, is
to be a wild kid which Donald thinks is a bad influence on the nephews
(not saying he doesn't have other functions!). He likes hanging out by the
railroad, which causes a lot of anger in the railroad inspector, Mr.
Phelps, who could be said to be the closest thing Sonny has to a nemesis.

More about him:
http://coa.inducks.org/character.php/x/Sonny+Seagull

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David Gerstein
OLIVIER:

> Would you be tempted to write the first American Atomo story (not
> for the sake of being the first, of course), or would you rather
> focus on Gottfredson's universe?

I don't have a lot of time to write original stories these days.
But when I do, I have absolutely no intention of restricting myself
to Gottfredson's universe. So I'd like to write an Atomo story at
some point down the line. Whether another American beats me, of
course, is his or her business.

RICH:

> As an aside, it?s nice to know Pete?s allies will be increasing!
> Will Plottigat,
> being a ?cousin? to Pete & Trudy, be making his debut sometime
> soon? And does he
> have an English name as well?

At Egmont, Plottigat's English name is Portis. Scarpa approved
its use, so I imagine we'll call him that at Gemstone if and when we
use stories with him.
I'm unsure what you mean by putting the word "cousin" in quotes.
Unless I misunderstand something, Portis is Pete's cousin, his
biological relative. Portis isn't related to Trudy.

> BTW, does Trudy?s surname have anything to do with Pete?s former ID
> as J.P.
> Diamondtubs?

Nope.
(Um, and since when was J. P. Diamondtubs Pete's "former I. D."?
J. P. is a Pete-like character who appears in an early Barks gag
story. He looks like the character we know as Pete, but doesn't act
or talk like him. We might say it's Pete playing a role in a set-
piece, cartoonlike story, but if you're trying to say that J. P.
Diamondtubs is the former Christian name of the villain Mickey Mouse
knows as Pegleg or Black Pete, I would strongly disagree.)

> As for others I would love to see revived [...]

You'll soon see some of the characters you requested. Some
(Launchpad, Tanglefoot) have already appeared in Gemstone comics and
will appear again.

> Given that, I?d much prefer to see ?Super? Daisy or rather Papernika
> debut under a much more clever name like the CRIMSON QUACKETTE

To be brutally honest, Paperinika exists to be Daisy's idea of a
self-declared feminist counterpart to Duck Avenger. She wants to
prove that she can be a better hero than Duck Avenger, and that women
can make better heroes than men.
Thus I don't think Daisy would modify her superhero name with an
old-fashioned feminine diminutive like "-ette"...

> since Donald emulates Batman in his ?Dark Knight? persona, thus
> Daisy could sync
> up with Batman?s dark prot?g? The Huntress, taking on the name
> ?DUCK HUNTRESS?

...and because Daisy is out to prove that she's better than Duck
Avenger and owes nothing to him, she would never take a name implying
she was his prot?g?. The name is funny, but the cross-reference works
against the character's reason for being.
(In earlier DC continuity, of course, the Huntress was also the
daughter of Earth-2 Batman. That could make the continuity parallels
even stranger...)

Best, David
Rich
David said:
> Garvey Gull is the American English name for the character
> Egmont calls Sonny Seagull.

I am probably wrong, but I *thought* Sonny Seagull had debuted some time back in
the USA and his name was given as "Sonny Seagull" at the time. I get
confused 'cause I have a lot of NON-American Disney comics in my collection that I
can't recall where I saw the character previously (even though I know my first
exposure to him was while I was living in Shang Hai and bought Chinese Disney
comics)... LOL! ;-)

Curious. Why would Gemstone rename such a character when it already had a
clearly "English" name? Americans are well acquainted with the name "Sonny" and
the word "Seagull." Why the change to Garvey Gull? It would seem logical to just
retain a name that is already in use if it is already a commonly understood name.

I'm just curious what sort of process is involved in such cases?

Is there already an American fictional character called "Sonny Seagull" which
would cause copyright infringement or something of that nature, as I recall was
something surrounding the original name for Barks' Neighbor Jones ("Jughead" Jones
as in the Archie Comics character of the same name)?

Or is it just a preference NOT to use an already established name when importing
the character into "American market" Disney publications?

Or is it, as in the case with Miss Emily/Florence Typefast/Quackfaster (not to
mention her name change in DuckTales to "Mrs. Featherby") which probably centers
on editting consistancy? [http://nafsk.se/pipermail/dcml/2003-August/018254.html]

Thanks,

Rich
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Blascolorenzo
Hello Rick (and all),

Thank you very much for infos + scans: I didn't know this foe. May be he never appeared in Italy, unless he appeared in MEGA 3000, in which new Egmont stories are usually printed.

Bye.
Blasco
David Gerstein
Hey Chris (and others),

> I noticed Dickie Duck's appearance in "Healthy Choice" (though it was a little surprising she wasn't mentioned by name, unlike Garvey Gull [who??]). It was also nice to see Herbert again.
>
Olaf is correct: Garvey Gull is the American English name for the character Egmont calls Sonny Seagull.
You'll see Garvey in some major roles next year, and I think you'll enjoy them.

Best, David
Kimba1962
Olaf Sostrand wrote,

> [Garvey Gull] is a homeless kid and a
> friend of Huey, Dewey and Louie. In INDUCKS he's described as "a sort of
> Huckleberry Finn as a birdface character who co-stars with HDL". According
> to the same database, he has appeared in fourteen stories (and I just read
> a fifteenth that's not inducksed yet). His main function, as I see it, is
> to be a wild kid which Donald thinks is a bad influence on the nephews

Aha, thanks for clearing that up. GG sounds a little bit like Freckles Friendly, the poor (but not homeless) pal of Richie Rich. Freckles wasn't particularly "wild," however.

Chris Barat
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Rich
Presented primairily for your amusement, but also for your consideration.
DONALD & HIS COUSINS
see: http://users.cwnet.com/xephyr/rich/images/DonaldsCousins.gif

Depicted: Donald Duck, Gladstone Gander, Gus Goose, Fethry Duck & Kildare Coot (aka Sgrizzo Papero)
Also shown are each in a costumed persona. I believe that only Donald & Fethry have actually endeavored to pursue a part-
time life of crimefighting and the others only appeared once or twice this way. As Superheroes, my guess is they would
NEVER do well in a "team-up" situation! LOL!

Of the 5 cousins shown, I am least familiar with Kildare as he has YET to be presented in an English format that I have seen.
Visually, he appears to be the most "far-out/whacky" of the lot. My familiarity with Kildare has been mainly through scans or
in Italian stories where he has not played off Donald so I haven't learned a great deal about his place in the Duck Universe.

Some questions, if you feel inclined to answer:
1) What do you believe best describes the personality of each cousin?
2) How would you describe the relationship between Donald and each cousin?
3) Have all five ever appeared in the SAME story (outside of group poses or family gatherings)?
4) If not, or if their appearances together in a story didn't really center on their interaction, do you think an interesting story
could be written that shows just how differently they would approach a given circumstance?

Thanks,

Rich
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Gary Leach
Rich,

> I am probably wrong, but I *thought* Sonny Seagull had debuted some
> time back in
> the USA and his name was given as "Sonny Seagull" at the time.

Back when we were starting up Gemstone's Disney comics line I
remember going through a lot of Sonny Seagull stories in galley form
and never imagining the character had another name. Such a thought
never crossed any of our minds, and why would it? It's a perfectly
serviceable name for American readers.

I have no idea of another comics character exists, or ever existed,
that was named Sonny Seagull, but I wouldn't be surprised if there
were several. The name is as alliterative as they come, a real natural.

Gary
Gary Leach
Rich,

> Or is it, as in the case with Miss Emily/Florence Typefast/
> Quackfaster (not to
> mention her name change in DuckTales to "Mrs. Featherby") which
> probably centers
> on editting consistancy?

Far and away the leading cause of such inconsistencies. Editors have
all kinds of reasons for letting such things happen - lack of
accurate information, lack of communication with other editors, lack
of attention to detail, lack of the morning java jolt - but they
almost all boil down to simple slip-ups that make it into print.
Editors hate to see these happen, because they know they and the
readers will have to live with them.

A moment on my soapbox: no editor can let him or herself be
complacent about errors, and no reader should be expected to be
either, but this very mailing list has featured many posts by readers
who've seen darker doings behind them. That's not to say that the
publishing biz hasn't got its share of dark doings, but very few of
them have the purpose of confusing readers. At least, not intentionally.

Gary
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