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There's an english forum at this adress too: http://discussion.mcduck.nl

----- Original Message -----
From: Vernon Meiers
To: dcml at nafsk.se
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 10:38 AM
Subject: English Language Disney Comics Forum

>I decided to launch a new English-only Disney Comics web forum. This is a
>place to discuss anything related to both comics and Disney.
Check it out at:
http://dcmlforum.jconserv.net/index.php

> Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 13:05:46 +0200
> From: "Ole Damgaard" <ole at disneycomics.dk>

<There's an english forum at this adress too: http://discussion.mcduck.nl>

The McDuck International forum works on PunBB software.
The biggest problem is that this software doesn't have any (public) archive
options. Any tips and advice would be welcome, as McDuck is intended as a
steady platform that will stay on internet, including a downloadable
archive.

At this moment there's a discussion going on about "RSS". The way I get it,
this is a system that can send posted messsages by email. So, people will
have local copies to reply to, without having the visit the forum first.

Index ? About this forum ? RSS?
http://discussion.mcduck.nl/viewtopic.php?id=29

Best,
Dani?l

[This is a resent version. With correct links. I goofed up by giving a
wrong, confusing McDuck-URL and requested for blocking myself.
Compliments and thanks to the DCML-moderator for the help! DvE.]

> Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 11:12:38 GMT
> From: "rodney-selfhelpbikeco at juno.com"

>

A few days ago Joakim Gunnarsson posted a piece from this site:http://www.marvelessentials.com/current_news.html
that talked about Gemstone publishing archive libraries of Carl Barks and Floyd Gottfredson as early as 2008. I was wondering if anyone from Gemstone could confirm this information? I realize that 2008 is far away yet and that plans would be far from firm, but it would really great to hear that such ideas are in Gemstone's long term plans.

And under the theory of "in for a penny, in for a pound", does Gemstone also have plans for Don Rosa and/or Al Taliaferro libraries? Any information anyone at Gemstone could provide would be *greatly* appreciated! I apologize in advance for being too nosey! :)

Dean Rekich

----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel van Eijmeren" <dve at kabelfoon.nl>
To: <dcml at nafsk.se>
Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 3:28 PM
Subject: Rodney's scrubbed email about fora

>Rodney's message was "scrubbed". Is this scrubbing problem still going on
>at DCML? I would expect our beloved DCML-moderator to finally fix this
>problem. It's going on for years now.

Send your messages as plain text instead of html, and there will be no
scrubbing.

>the administrator became almost unreachable. As if DCML is some inferior
>hobby.

When you do some work or run a service without getting paid for it, then it
*is* by definition a hobby.

>I'm always curious if the mighty DCML-moderator will block something.

Whoever owns/administrates a mailing list, has the right to moderate it. If
you for instance created a mailing list, you could moderate that too.
Doesn't that sound fair to you?

/od

Dani?l wrote:

> In case this email will be blocked, I will put it on McDuck International. I
> think DCML is worth a good discussion before it fades out.
>
> The URL is:
> Disney Comics Mailing List (DCML)
> http://discussion.mcduck.nl/viewtopic.php?id=35

Absolutely. However, I wonder why there suddenly are so many replies to
your post on *that* site, when the topic is clearly related to *this*
mailing list.

The posts there could just as well have been mails here(?!)

S?ren

> Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 23:55:31 +0200
> From: "Ole Damgaard" <ole at disneycomics.dk>

<Send your messages as plain text instead of html, and there will be no
scrubbing.>
Emails with HTML exist for years and years already, so I think it's strange
that the DCML-software expects users to turn off such an often used option.
I see that as a lack of technical support. Even more because people on DCML
have to guess for themselves what's going on, without any help from the
maintainer or the moderator. If your message gets scrubbed, well, who cares?
That's an example of what I think is going wrong here on DCML. There's no
communication about the current status and the future. To me it looks like
we're running on old software that severely needs an update. But will such
an update ever come?

<When you do some work or run a service without getting paid for it, then it
*is* by definition a hobby.>
Okay, but when one starts an hobby that brings people together in a
community, there should be responsibitity for it. Morally speaking, at
least. Otherwise any fool can start a forum and leave it deserted after a
while.
Nowadays on internet, amateur fora are popping up like mushrooms. I always
felt that DCML had the intention to be a steady, reliable forum. But in
recent years, it just looks like the place is just waiting to be switched
off by lack of interest. Looking at the website of DCML, with dead links,
I'm not surprised at all that people are leaving DCML.
http://stp.ling.uu.se/~starback/dcml/index.html

<Whoever owns/administrates a mailing list, has the right to moderate it. If
you for instance created a mailing list, you could moderate that too.
Doesn't that sound fair to you?>
From what I've understood, there are laws and rules for raising a community.
Human rights, for example. Or would the maintainer be allowed to block
people who wear glasses, for example?

There's a difference between moderation and censoring. And there needs to be
rules and clarity about what to expect from it. Otherwise there might be
discrimination in what gets through and what gets blocked. As the blocking
happens in private mail, I'm curious for outtakes and the explanations for
blocking them. I want to know what the moderation means for the liberty of
speech.

That's one of my reasons to raise up a topic at a free independent place. If
people have complaints about blocked emails, they will have a place to
discuss them. Anonymously, if preferred. I think such a independent place is
important for any community.

Disney Comics Mailing List (DCML)
http://discussion.mcduck.nl/viewtopic.php?id=35

Dani?l