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Topic: Uncle Scrooge #3 (407)

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Clapton
Quote from user: Debbieor a new DuckTales comic book...just so long as it doesn't repeat the mistakes of BOOM's "Rightful Owners" series.
Are their still any good foreign Ducktales comics that need to be localized?
WB
Guys.
All the books haven't even launched yet.
We still havent even seen how the demand for them will pan out. You gotta give these things time and don't rush it. :)
Like others have said, its that kind of gun jumping that causes implosions and all other sorts of publishing hurdles. You guys' enthusiasm is awesome, but w're all just a small amount of voices on a forum. Let things play out for now and see when and where the dominoes fall.
Baar Baar Jinx
Quote from user: WBGuys.

All the books haven't even launched yet.

We still havent even seen how the demand for them will pan out. You gotta give these things time and don't rush it. :)

Like others have said, its that kind of gun jumping that causes implosions and all other sorts of publishing hurdles. You guys' enthusiasm is awesome, but w're all just a small amount of voices on a forum. Let things play out for now and see when and where the dominoes fall.

Quick question ... not sure you know the answer to this, but ...

Could IDW solicit the license to publish DuckTales? Or does Joe Books already have it? I would imagine it'll be hot property in a couple of years when the new animated series is launched.
WB
I've no idea tbh and even if I did I'm not sure if be at liberty to say. That's all entirely dependent on forces I have no control of or knowledge over. Sorry.
Clapton
WB Didn't you try your hand at writing/drawing disney comics? Any chance they'll finally publish ya?
Thomps2525
Joe Books controls the publishing rights to most of the series which were part of Disney Channel's 1990-97 Disney Afternoon block of programming: TaleSpin, DuckTales, Bonkers, Gargoyles, Gummi Bears, Darkwing Duck and Chip 'N' Dale's Rescue Rangers. I'm uncertain if Joe Books has the rights to Goof Troop and Quack Pack. Those two series featured characters that are now licensed to IDW.
In recent years, has any Disney artist or writer tried to create a new animal character which might become successful enough to star in a comic book? Hundreds of new animal characters have been created for Disney movies---Timon, Pumbaa, Scar, Remy, Nemo, Dory, Terk, Koda, Rutt, Tuke, Flit, Meeko and many many others---but it seems that there are not many new characters who make their debut in a comic book. I would like to think that someday someone could create a new Disney comic-book character who would eventually become as popular as Mickey and Donald and Scrooge.
Ramapith
Quote from user: Thomps2525Joe Books controls the publishing rights to most of the series which were part of Disney Channel's 1990-97 Disney Afternoon block of programming: TaleSpin, DuckTales, Bonkers, Gargoyles, Gummi Bears, Darkwing Duck and Chip 'N' Dale's Rescue Rangers.
Please tell us your source for this information about the specific individual shows that their license covers. Or did you simply hear that Joe Books has licensed the "Disney Afternoon" property, and conclude on your own that it covered these particular series?
(I'm not saying you're right or wrong. I just want to know where this was made public.)
Quote:In recent years, has any Disney artist or writer tried to create a new animal character which might become successful enough to star in a comic book? [...] I would like to think that someday someone could create a new Disney comic-book character who would eventually become as popular as Mickey and Donald and Scrooge.
Uncle Rumpus, Boom-Boom Ghigno, Princess Oona, Garvey Gull, and various Duck Avenger supporting characters have had stories of their own in Europe. Doesn't mean they're incredibly popular??yet??but at least they've gotten star status a few times.
Thomps2525
One of the clerks at the comics shop here in Glendale told me late last year that Joe Books had acquired the publishing rights to the Disney Afternoon series. He heard the news from another customer, who is a writer for Joe Books. I asked the clerk if I could use his (the clerk) name here. He said, "No, there's already too much information on the Internet about me." He added that the writer was planning to announce the acquisition of publishing rights in January 2015 at an open meeting at the Glendale Public Library. I'm assuming that Joe Books does not have the rights to Goof Troop or Quack Pack but I don't know that for certain.
William Van Horn has used Rumpus McFowl in a few stories but Rumpus is not a very likeable character. Of course Neighbor Jones and Gladstone Gander aren't likeable either but I certainly enjoy all the Donald Duck stories in which they appear.
Baar Baar Jinx
Quote from user: Thomps2525I'm uncertain if Joe Books has the rights to Goof Troop and Quack Pack. Those two series featured characters that are now licensed to IDW.
By that logic, so does DuckTales.
I've said it elsewhere, but again, I think the division of the licenses between IDW and Joe Books is a strange decision. Why didn't IDW want to publish Disney Afternoon properties? Or if they did, why didn't Disney think they were a good choice to do so?
WB
Honestly, Thomps -- not trying to lecture you here -- but its probably best to not go spouting info like that willy nilly. Situations could always change or even worse, could need to be kept confidential for any number of legal reasons you are not or never will be privy to -- you never know the outcomes or reasoning behind these things. You're kind of coming across as an authority on this stuff crossed with "boy who cried Disney" when you're really kind of not.
For example: if the wrong person on the internet reads info you so casually toss about to make it look like you're in the know that you actively run the risk of getting that clerk or worse, that writer, in trouble. Yes, youre not using said persons name but if the wrong person, or god forbid any random exec (bosses read the internet too!), reads that and does some simple snooping it wouldnt be that hard to find out who said person or persons might be. You could inadvertently get someone in trouble or chastised or even fired from their job. Consequences, dude.
It sounds like conjecture and premature scaredy-cat-erry but you'd be honestly surprised at how you might be doing more harm than good in these cases and how often little things like that eventually backfire on innocent people just because someone else didnt know when to keep thier mouth shut. :\
Again, not trying to lecture you or be rude/mean or chastise. I'm really not. But please think ahead about other peoples livelihoods before you begin to cite everything you hear on and off the internet as the gospel truth and eagerly claim sources about this and that. That's really not cool.
Thomps2525
I got excited when the clerk told me that there would be a new Darkwing Duck comic book series in 2015 and possibly new DuckTales and TaleSpin comics. The little kid in me immediately thought, "Oh boy, I've gotta share this news!" I agree, WB---I should not be so casual in sharing what I hear. From now on, when I hear such stories I will refrain from commenting until the news is made official and posted on the publishers' websites. If you knew me, you'd know that "keeping my mouth shut" is not something I've ever been very good at. Even when I was in elementary school, almost every semester I was given a grade of "unsatisfactory" for "Avoids needless talking." And we all know how these message boards make it even easier for someone like me to talk non-stop!
By the way, June 9 was the anniversary of Donald Duck's film debut in The Wise Little Hen (1934). And we forgot! Shame on us!
Ramapith
Quote from user: Thomps2525By the way, June 9 was the anniversary of Donald Duck's film debut in The Wise Little Hen (1934). And we forgot! Shame on us!
This isn't a thread about Donald's birthday. Please don't change the subject.

WB is right, Thomps??I hate to chastise, but you're constantly positioning yourself as an authority here when average readers??and even some of us professionals??don't know what your sources are, and often discover that they're unreliable wikis, or potentially unreliable friends-of-friends of talent.
Sometimes you're simply making leaps of faith and treating the result as fact (i. e. that a nonspecific Disney Afternoon license likely includes some properties and excludes others).

Lots of unsourced rumors and suppositions have circulated on the DCF in the past and led to problems behind the scenes. The Gemstone Disney comics, for instance, ended in 2009 because Gemstone had unrelated (non-Disney) issues which I won't go into. Some DCF posters presumed the comics ended because they were selling badly; spoke as if they knew this to be true, and unknowingly created major trouble when their postings were taken seriously by the wrong people. Again, not something I can say more about, but the fallout unfairly affected many whom it shouldn't have.

I know you love this stuff??like we do!??and love to talk about it, but please be mindful to stay generally on topic??and source your information carefully. Otherwise you stand to misinform others and create problems you may not anticipate.

Thanks for understanding, man. (-:
Debbie
Quote from user: WBGuys.

All the books haven't even launched yet.

We still havent even seen how the demand for them will pan out. You gotta give these things time and don't rush it. :)

Like others have said, its that kind of gun jumping that causes implosions and all other sorts of publishing hurdles. You guys' enthusiasm is awesome, but w're all just a small amount of voices on a forum. Let things play out for now and see when and where the dominoes fall.

Will do. I'm enjoying these books very much.
Thomps2525
I do understand, David. I will henceforth do my mostest bestest to stay on topic and to not post anything (other than my own personal opinions) unless I know it to be factual and I can cite sources.
As for Uncle Scrooge #3, one story involves the theft a gem that Scrooge says he got in Unsteadystan in 1966. The reference is to Carl Barks' "Treasure Of Marco Polo" story. It was reprinted in 1998 in issue #52 of Gladstone's Uncle Scrooge Adventures In Color. Publisher Bruce Hamilton noted that it "was the single most difficult Carl Barks story (of twelve) for Another Rainbow to get removed from Disney's dreaded permanent and Official Banned List from the 1970s."
http://www.brucehamilton.com/GLAD/AAA%20Steve%20Files/Series2Albums/USA56pages/US1to56.htm
I just re-read the story and it is filled with guerrillas, grenades, gunfire, explosions and a general named Wahn Beeg Rhat. In the 1960s, North Viá»?t Nam and South Viá»?t Nam were at war. United States President Lyndon Johnson, hoping to thwart the spread of Communism, sent 3500 Marines to South Viá»?t Nam in March 1965. They were the first U.S. ground troops there. I'm thinking something now that I didn't think in 1966: Was Carl Barks opposed to our involvement in the Viá»?t Nam conflict and was Wahn Beeg Rhat intended to be a parody of North Viá»?t Nam President Ho Chi Minh? And, if so, was that part of the reason that Disney did not want the story to be reprinted? Or did Disney simply object to all the war-related violence? And if that is the case, why did they allow the story to be published in 1966?
Matilda
Hey, y'all, go to Joe Torcivia's blog http://tiahblog.blogspot.com/ for discussion of U$ 3...and as a fabulous bonus, go to the comments and find a link to Deb's sketch of Captain Retro-Duck! Let's Get Retro!
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