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Topic: Don Rosa's Detached Retina Update

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Roger North
I guess it is true that Don Rosa is retiring. Although it would be weird to imagine him not doing any more stories. I hope a third generation Duck artist would be as good as writing the Duck stories as Don Rosa once did and Carl Barks before him.
LadyQuackly
Quote from user: ArgonautMy first post here, hello everyone! I'm a DCML vet, but I've pretty much been only lurking since Gladstone went under. Was rather active there in the mid-90s though.

Just wanted to say Don's retirement comes as sad news to be sure, but I think he's more than earned it. I wish him nothing but the best. His stories are a huge part of who I am and I feel privileged to have been able to grow up on his (and Barks') work. :)

And to be honest, I had a feeling "Prisoner of White Agony Creek" was his last hurrah when I was reading it. Anyone else feel that way?

To be honest, I hadn't..."Dream of a Lifetime" might have given a clue, though, or "A Little Something Special".

I've truly come to appreciate Don Rosa's works ever since "LTo$". I've discovered them late in life, but thank God for them. :)
LadyQuackly
Quote from user: Roger NorthI guess it is true that Don Rosa is retiring. Although it would be weird to imagine him not doing any more stories. I hope a third generation Duck artist would be as good as writing the Duck stories as Don Rosa once did and Carl Barks before him.
Romano Scarpa does a pretty good job. Whoever does "Tio Patinhas" in Brazil might also fill the bill (no pun intended! :) ).
Roger North
Romano Scarpa is dead. I don't know who does the Tio Patinhas in Brazil but I'm sure he might do a good job.
LadyQuackly
Quote from user: Roger NorthRomano Scarpa is dead. I don't know who does the Tio Patinhas in Brazil but I'm sure he might do a good job.
Oh I'm sorry, I didn't know that. Dang, I'll miss him. :(

I tried to get some information about Tio Patinhas, but the comics were made up of assorted cartoonists
(including Rosa and Barks), so I guess it's not by any one person. I imagine there's still some good artists out there, though. :)
Morequack
I don't know who the prolific artists/writers are for Tio Patinhas (see link below). Not many of these stories seem to reprinted in any U.S. pubs. I like the fact that a good number of them are lengthy epics?albeit they are done 3 rows per page as opposed to the 4 rows format?often up to 44 or even 60 pages. That has been a major disappointment for me with the Gemstone Uncle Scrooge comics where most stories are typically of less than 20 pages and too many are 10-pages or less of gags.
http://coa.inducks.org/publication.php?c=br/TP
Roger North
You're right Lady Quackly. There are some good artists out there.
Roger North
Maybe they'll reprint them in the form of TPBs Like they did with The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck and World of The Dragonlords and other stories like that.
LadyQuackly
Quote from user: MorequackI don't know who the prolific artists/writers are for Tio Patinhas (see link below). Not many of these stories seem to reprinted in any U.S. pubs. I like the fact that a good number of them are lengthy epics?albeit they are done 3 rows per page as opposed to the 4 rows format?often up to 44 or even 60 pages. That has been a major disappointment for me with the Gemstone Uncle Scrooge comics where most stories are typically of less than 20 pages and too many are 10-pages or less of gags.

http://coa.inducks.org/publication.php?c=br/TP

I would really REALLY love to see those Brazilian comics, but they're very hard to get ahold of (and
from I hear, quite expensive :( ) Ze Carioca is another comic I'd like to read (in English, since I
can hardly read Portugese), but the character is sadly underappreciated here in the States. Still, it
would be really great see reprints of either here.

Thanks for the link! :)
Robb_K
Ze Carioca has de veloped quite a lot, over the years since introduced in the early 1940s. The Brasilians have invented a lot of supporting characters of their own (which is nice). But, since the 1980s, they have modernised the characters (including Jose) (dress and mannerisms) so much, that the strip is hardly recognisable. I much prefer the old US strip, and the '80s Dutch stories.
Grote griebels! Ik ben Nederlander weer!
LadyQuackly
Quote from user: Robb_KZe Carioca has de veloped quite a lot, over the years since introduced in the early 1940s. The Brasilians have invented a lot of supporting characters of their own (which is nice). But, since the 1980s, they have modernised the characters (including Jose) (dress and mannerisms) so much, that the strip is hardly recognisable. I much prefer the old US strip, and the '80s Dutch stories.

Grote griebels! Ik ben Nederlander weer!

I never saw the old strip (darn it), but I know what you mean. Ze's pretty cute in his little outfit, I think; but it's still odd to see him dressed like that. I really loved him best as he looked in "Saludos Amigos" and "Three Caballeros". (And what's with the pants on that dude? He's a BIRD, for crying out loud! :D )

Btw, I apologize if this was off-topic. Maybe we should start a "Tio Patinhas" thread. ;)
Robb_K
Quote from user: LadyQuacklyQuote from user: Roger NorthRomano Scarpa is dead. I don't know who does the Tio Patinhas in Brazil but I'm sure he might do a good job.
Oh I'm sorry, I didn't know that. Dang, I'll miss him. :(

I tried to get some information about Tio Patinhas, but the comics were made up of assorted cartoonists
(including Rosa and Barks), so I guess it's not by any one person. I imagine there's still some good artists out there, though. :)

There are several Brasilian artists, too. You can look them up on COA, at: www.inducks.org
Roger North
Thanks for the info Robb.
Sigvald
Quote from user: Lars JensenQuote from user: Dean RekichPerhaps Lars or someone else can answer this question: Does anyone know *why* Don has retired? I myself can think of several possibilities: eye problems, wanting to spend more time with his wife, running out of story ideas, etc., etc. I am just curious if Don has given a specific reason why.
During the interview, Don said: "One of the reasons is..." And now you're gonna hate me, because I'm not sure I remember what that reason was, but I *think* it was because he wanted to spend more time with his wife.

I was at KOMIKS too and watched that interview. Don Rosa came up with several reasons why he has stopped doing new stories:

a)
His vision has became worse and worse the last 5-10 years. Thus it has become more and more demanding for him to draw such tiny and detailed art as seen in his stories. I have met him several times since 2001, but this last time is the only time that his vision-trouble has been obvious.

b)
When he sold a part of his comics collection a few years ago, he ended up earning more money in 6 months than he earned during 6 years doing stories for Egmont. The last few years he has also learned that his stories are now being republished over and over again making more profit for the publishers.

c)
Finally, he has had enough of the way many publishers treats him. In the interview he in particular mentioned the publishers in Brazil and Greece, where (according to him) they keeps using his name in order in to increase the sales of their products. Also some non-Egmont publishers are translating all extra-material written by him for the Hall of Fame books, even though the texts, the illustrations from The Pertwillaby Papers and Don's childhood material is © Don Rosa *not* © Disney Co. These publishers are actually treating his bonus-material as if it was Disney's material like his stories.

For the most recent Rosa-book in the Hall of Fame series (book 6) Don Rosa specially asked Egmont to include a © Don Rosa in start of the book. This line however only appeared in the Norwegian edition. It is missing in both the Danish and the Swedish editions. During the KOMIKS both the Danes and the Swedes made it very clear though, that they would never have removed that line of text by them selves. So somehow the central editorial office for the HOF series, in Norway seems to have forgotten to distribute that information to the other publishers.

Don Rosa is also disappointed that so far, the extra art he has made for the multi-part versions of his long stories, have not been included in the HOF series. Egmont claims that the readers don't want it, but it seems that Rosa has got another impression about that matter, and as always he is the one who ends up being asked by many fans about why that art is missing in the HOF-series, etc. Anyway he thinks that that art should have been included in order to provide a complete presentation of his work ? as was originally said to be the intention of the Rosa-books in the HOF-series.

When asked he said he expects that the extra art will be included in Gemstone's "Don Rosa Library". He was actually much more worried about weather Gemstone would manage to stay in business in the future.

So, shortly said, besides having experienced increasing problems with his vision, Don Rosa has lost the inspiration needed to do more stories.

http://duckman.pettho.com/komiks01.jpg
Don Rosa does some signing at the KOMIKS in Copenhagen.

http://duckman.pettho.com/komiks03.jpg
Don Rosa and me.

http://duckman.pettho.com/komiks05.jpg
Don Rosa and his editor at Gladstone and Egmont, Byron Erickson.

http://duckman.pettho.com/komiks09.jpg
Don Rosa's eye-trouble is now obvious.
Morequack
Quote from user: SigvaldI was at KOMIKS too and watched that interview. Don Rosa came up with several reasons why he has stopped doing new stories:
a) His vision has became worse and worse the last 5-10 years. Thus it has become more and more demanding for him to draw such tiny and detailed art as seen in his stories. I have met him several times since 2001, but this last time is the only time that his vision-trouble has been obvious.

b) When he sold a part of his comics collection a few years ago, he ended up earning more money in 6 months than he earned during 6 years doing stories for Egmont. The last few years he has also learned that his stories are now being republished over and over again making more profit for the publishers.

c) Finally, he has had enough of the way many publishers treats him. In the interview he in particular mentioned the publishers in Brazil and Greece, where (according to him) they keeps using his name in order in to increase the sales of their products. Also some non-Egmont publishers are translating all extra-material written by him for the Hall of Fame books, even though the texts, the illustrations from The Pertwillaby Papers and Don's childhood material is © Don Rosa *not* © Disney Co. These publishers are actually treating his bonus-material as if it was Disney's material like his stories.

Thanks for the informative post, Sigvald!

a) I can certainly understand how Don's vision problems would be a serious setback to writing/drawing stories. I wish him the best possible vision that modern science can muster.

b) It's unfortunate that Don doesn't make enough from his stories to warrant his time and volume of work. This is strictly a matter for Don and his family and no one has any right to comment here.

c) I know that Don has had numerous, ongoing troubles with the copyright issue since his early days with Disney. I guess I need to be educated on copyright etiquette. The business nuances of this matter have always been hard for me to understand. I didn't know that publishers (Greece and Brazil) must get Don Rosa's permission in order to print his name in their comics. Actually I don't find that reasonable, unless I misunderstood Sigvald's statement. Do other artists need to provide approval for a pub. to print his name in an advertisement or article? I suppose it depends on the individual's contract with a publisher?

I don't know anything about the Hall of Fame books so I cannot comment there.
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