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Quote from user: GeoXIs it possible that he was, in fact, the most prolific Disney artist ever? I don't think inducks provides creator rankings, but it lists him as having drawn a mind-boggling one thousand two hundred ninety-four stories. Certainly, it's possible that there's someone out there who's surpassed that, but none of the other likely candidates whom I can think of even come close.
He MUST have been involved with more pages of Duck artwork than any other Disney Comic artist. In addition to "Go Slowly, Hands of Time", he also drew Barks' "Hang Gliders Be Hanged" into final comic book form. He did a good job on both, but I'd have preferred Jippes or Branca to do both.

Quote from user: GeoXIs it possible that he was, in fact, the most prolific Disney artist ever? I don't think inducks provides creator rankings, but it lists him as having drawn a mind-boggling one thousand two hundred ninety-four stories. Certainly, it's possible that there's someone out there who's surpassed that, but none of the other likely candidates whom I can think of even come close.
This is a real question - for this I can use the "estimatedpanels" function of Dizni (the program which generates computer-friendly Inducks indexes from user-friendly files).

Assuming this is correct (I'm not 100% sure):

SELECT x.artist, SUM(x.panels) FROM
(SELECT DISTINCT sv.storycode AS code, sj.personcode AS artist, sv.estimatedpanels AS panels
FROM inducks_storyversion sv, inducks_story s, inducks_storyjob sj
WHERE sv.storyversioncode=s.originalstoryversioncode
AND (sj.plotwritartink='i' OR sj.plotwritartink='a')
AND (sv.what='s' OR sv.what='k')
AND sj.storyversioncode=s.originalstoryversioncode) AS x
GROUP BY 1
ORDER BY 2 DESC

You get:

?^975460
Cup^160653
TS^132151
GCa^125071
JDi^114029
RSc^94022
LGa^91066
MDV^90771
VR^89605
GCh^77756
SSt^77666
SAs^60909
GPe^59658
JB^59043
GBC^58792
GSc^56623
CB^54518
ABc^48994
PM^48945
CHe^48508
ISR^47535
ADC^43349
JCF^41889
GBo^38919
GDS^37777
MAm^35460
AH^35391
ELe^33420
FG^33299
PDV^32822
Mig^31984
MTo^31174
CFe^30843

One problem is that strips are not counted in the "estimatedpanels" field. Replacing it by 5*sv.entirepages (5 panels/strip), you get:

FG^77515
AT^64700
MGo^49740

Excluding Studios as well as "?" and gethering the two lists

1. Strobl 132151
2. Cavazzano 125071
3. Scarpa 94022
4. Gatto 91066
5. Massimo De Vita 90771
6. Vicar 89605
7. Chierchini 77756
8. Steve Steere 77666
9. Gottfredson 77515
10. Taliaferro 64700
11. Asteriti 60909
12. Perego 59658
13. Bradbury 59043
14. Carpi 58792
15. Scalabroni 56623
16. Barks 54518
17. Gonzales 49740
18. Bancells 48994
19. Murry 48945
20. Carlos Herrero 48508
Etc.

That's approximately 11,200 pages of art for Vicar, while Strobl gets more than 16,500.

This counts pencil+ink the same as ink only, or pencil only, but many artist in this list usually did not ink themselves. In this respect, note that many regular inkers of Vicar (or of some other people above) are not known, so this "podium" might not be complete. Counting pencil art only, however, the above persons are the likely candidates, Steve Steere excluded.
Barks is one of the only artists above who inked most of his art. But he also did the stories as well. In fact that may put Barks' works, comparatively, at the top, not only in quality but also in quantity...

If you had seen Cavazzano, a friend of mine got an autograph of him at Angoulême (a Mickey head) that he did in maybe less than 2 seconds. I assume that answers why he is so high in the ranking... Of course Cavazzano and Strobl did not only do art for Disney but also for other publishers!

So, Cavazzano may yet surpass Strobl for the brass ring!
My favorite Vicar-drawn stories are Andrew Galton & Dave Angus's The Crying Monster (called The Sobbing Serpent in DDA-D 31) and several by Janet Gilbert: The Christmas That Almost Wasn't and The Duckburg Ice Festival from U$ 348, and the Halloween story All Tricks and No Treats, which has sadly not been published in English. All of the above are excellent stories for younger kids. If there is ever again a publisher of Disney duck comics in the USA, and they make Ashcan comics for use as Halloween treats, they should take note: the Gilbert/Vicar story All Tricks and No Treats would be a fine choice for such a use. You gotta love a Halloween story where all the kids get to swim in candy at the end!

When considering Vicar's page count, however, you must not forget that he was the head of a studio and did not draw all these pages himself. I don't know if this studio still existed until recently, but it's probably safe to say that most of the stories from the 80s and 90s that featured that always almost exactly identical "Vicar" style weren't completely his own work.

Quote from user: Robb_KMost of us know this. We know that he drew sketches for some, pencils for others, and inking on others, with all possible combinations of all three. This is similar to Floyd Gottfredson's work when he was head of Disney Comics staff. Still and all, having had done some artwork on all those stories is no mean feat. In any case, he may well have had a hand in more pages or more panels than all other Disney Comic artists.
Rob, I have seen your own excellent art. If Vicar's studio still exists, maybe you could tell them that you are both well qualified and willing to replace Vicar?

By the way, I just read that Vicar died from leukemia - same cause of death as Carl Barks.

Now I got the info that indeed, Vicar left Egmont for Sanoma around 2010. At least it was already known in January 2011.
The Dutch stories he drew are referenced here, but haven't been published:
http://coa.inducks.org/comp2.php?code=H&induckscodesonly=on&keyw=&keywt=i&exactpg=&pg1=&pg2=&bro2=&bro3=&kind=n&rowsperpage=0&columnsperpage=0&hero=&xapp=&univ=&xa2=&creat=VR&creat2=&plot=&plot2=&writ=&writ2=&art=&art2=&ink=&ink2=&pub1=&pub2=&part=&ser=&xref=&mref=&xrefd=&repabb=&repabbc=al&imgmode=1&vdesc2=on&vdesc=en&vau=on&vgy=on&vnz=on&vus=on&vuk=on&sort1=auto
So the scan I quoted was the last story Vicar did for Egmont (possibly), but not for any publisher. I assume Sanoma will print them posthumously.
Jano: we would have to ask Soeren K Olesen who manages the Danish index about the credits for early Vicar stories, but I'm sure he knows about the mini "Vicar studio", even though it's not listed as such. The quest for the largest amount of Disney comics work by one single artist will continue to be contested.