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How are you all today?? Can the disney club member (or members) in Norway
PLEASE contact me because I've got some Norwegian questions to ask him/her.
Jellybeans

There was a lot of traffic on the list yesterday!
Andreas, Luigi, Jamal, Torsten, Jellysomething, Per, Rich, Wilmer: I'll reply
to some of your letters here:

Andreas Gammel - Dumbella Duck:
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> ..who features very rarely in a few DD-stories. I remember she's big and fat.

When I aksed Andreas for more details, it became clear that he actually meant
Belle (Dutch: Bella) Duck. She appeared in some "Foreign market" or "S-coded"
stories. Belle is in love with Scrooge, and has nothing to do with HDL.

Luigi Bevilacqua - Albi d'Oro:
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> "Albi d'Oro" was a Mondadori's weekly series (...)
> Each issue, in b/w and color, had 32 pages.

I asked about that because I have exactly one Italian comic book:
"Almanacco Topolino", aprile 1970, 132 pages. It has a label on the left top
of the cover, saying "Albi d'Oro Pubblic. mensile N. 160 - Lire 250"
(Golden books, published monthly, Number 160, 250 lires).
So I assumed "Albi d'Oro" was a general name, while this comic
book was called Almanacco Topolino (Mickey Mouse Almanac).

> What does "Hartelijke groeten" mean?

I won't tell you before you've told us everything about Mickey's wedding...
(But you can have the hartelijke groeten again, if you wish 8-)

Jamal Hannah, about the artist of the Dell comics series "Duck Album":
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> (I could probly track the name down if I had some Gladstone Digests handy,
> but I dont..)

You could also try the Dell comics list by Kjell Crone, available on our
ftp-site...
The "lousy artist" could be Phil DeLara.

Torsten Adair - human mothers:
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> When was the last time you saw a human-looking mother in a Disney animated
> movie?

In "Beauty and the beast", mrs. Teapot and her son Chip (I don't know their
exact English names). Just like the Beast, they _are_ human...

Jellybea at kauri.vuw.ac.nz (who must be sleeping at the moment) - Scrooge's dime:
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> Why does that witch duck [Magica De Spell] want Scrooges dime?

In the first story she appears ("The Midas Touch"), she explained her theory
to Scrooge: she thinks that an object that has been _touched_ a lot by a rich
person, must have gotten some of the magic power that can make her rich as
well. A kind of Midas touch, so to say. Of course, Scrooge must have touched
his first dime a lot, so it must have a lot of power...

I think it is only after Magica showed interest in the dime, that Scrooge
started to believe in his dime himself (starting near the end of that
same Midas Touch story). There is only one _earlier_ story with the
number one dime, but with no reference to "luck" at all.

> Does anyone want to be my penpal and write in the old fashioned way with
> ink and paper??

Why would you want to do that, if you have e-mail? (You don't _have_ to put
all your mails on the mailing list..)
The only advantage I can see, is that one can send non-ascii things like
comics and photos. But the disadvantages are: it takes a lot of time before
you get a reaction, and it's not for free.

But then, if your access to e-mail is limited or will end soon, "snail mail"
is a good alternative..

"
Per Starback, about HDL's mother sending the nephews to Donald:
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> What about the cartoon? I haven't seen it for some time---is it
> absolutely clear that Donald's sister Dumbella is the mother of the
> boys there?

In Marcia Blitz's book about Donald Duck, a story of "Donald's Nephews" is
printed, compiled from photos of the original cartoon. One photo shows the
text of Dumbella's postcard (addressed to Mr. Donald Duck, Hollywood, Calif.):

Dear Brother -
I am sending
your angel nephews
to visit you -
Sister Dumbella

So I guess that's all we have. Dumbella is most likely their mother, but
not necessarily.
I would agree with Della being short for Dumbella. The word "cousin" in the
newspaper strips could be a "typing error" (if you _insist_ on a consistent
explanation). Actually, her name could be Dumbella Thelma Duck 8-).

Rich Bellacera, about Grandma Duck:
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> Since I learned from this list that Grandma's real name is "Bella", (...)

You mixed up two things: there is a character "Bella" in the "Foreign market"
comics (see the top of this letter). And there is the Dutch name of Grandma,
which is "Dora". No American name for Grandma is known, though.

> I can't imagine what you get when you cross a Chicken with a Duck.

Well, all those characters _are_ crossings of humans and ducks/chickens etc.
Just look at them when they are bathing or swimming (especially Gyro!). So
maybe they are related because they have the same _human_ mother... (so Rich,
you're "not a duck", but you may be related to the ducks after all! 8-)

Jellybean (is that a real name?):
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> At this exact moment in time I am awake while you are all sleeping.

This reminds me of a gag on the back of one of the old Gladstone comics.
A man walks on the street with a sign, saying "The world could end tomorrow".
"Nonsense!", says Scrooge, "It's already tomorrow in New Zealand!"

Wilmer Rivers - April, May and June:
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> Who are AMJ's parents?

We may not know that, but we can say something about the address of their
mother, Daisy's sister: she lives in Dizzy street (or Coma Way), in the
rightmost house in that street, in appartment one (next door to prof. Batty).
(And now _you_ find out which story I'm referring to 8-)

--Harry.

Harry Fluks ()_() Dutch Disney comics freak
PTT Research, Leidschendam (_) H.W.Fluks at research.ptt.nl
"Yeah... I've _heard_ of coral barques!"

Here in Sweden it's been March 27 for almost half an hour now,
that is Carl Barks's birthday!

Just thought I'd remind you all in case you want something to
celebrate. :-)
--
Per

Happy birthday to you
Happy birthday Carl Banks
Happy birthday to you.

Jellybeans

On 26 Mar 1993, Harry Fluks wrote:
> There was a lot of traffic on the list yesterday!
> Andreas, Luigi, Jamal, Torsten, Jellysomething, Per, Rich, Wilmer: I'll reply
> to some of your letters here:
>
> > What does "Hartelijke groeten" mean?
Probably the same thing as Herzlichen Gruessen. (Pardon my
German, it's been a while since I studied Asterix.)

> I won't tell you before you've told us everything about Mickey's wedding...
> (But you can have the hartelijke groeten again, if you wish 8-)

Anyone who wants to hear a slightly dirty joke about Mickey Mouse and his
divorce, e-mail your requests to: torsten at cwis.unomaha.edu

> You could also try the Dell comics list by Kjell Crone, available on our
> ftp-site...

Specifics please?

> Torsten Adair - human mothers:
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > When was the last time you saw a human-looking mother in a Disney animated
> > movie?
> In "Beauty and the beast", mrs. Teapot and her son Chip (I don't know their
> exact English names). Just like the Beast, they _are_ human...

Whoops. I meant in a leading role, like Triton or Maurice.

BTW, my favorite piece of animation, Disney or otherwise, is Night on Bald
Mountain. Considering the lack of merchandise of Chernobog, I doubt he
has appeared in a Disney comic.

> Jellybean (is that a real name?):
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > At this exact moment in time I am awake while you are all sleeping.
>
> This reminds me of a gag on the back of one of the old Gladstone comics.
> A man walks on the street with a sign, saying "The world could end tomorrow".
> "Nonsense!", says Scrooge, "It's already tomorrow in New Zealand!"

California proverb: "Today is Yesterday's Tomorrow."

Would anyone care to post other pearls of wisdom from the Ducks?

Torsten torsten at cwis.unomaha.edu Omaha, NE, USA

Jamal:
> I seem to remember having a couple issues of "Donald Duck's Family Album"
> .. a Disney Comic that came out in the early 1960's, published by Dell
> (Western Publishing), and drawn by a rather lousy (in my opinion)
> artist. (I could probly track the name down if I had some Gladstone
> Digests handy, but I dont..)

Harry:
> You could also try the Dell comics list by Kjell Crone, available on our
> ftp-site...

Torsten:
> Specifics please?

In ftp.lysator.liu.se:/pub/comics/disney/crone there are some comics
titled "Duck Album" and "Donald Duck Album" in the file
four-colors.titles. Unfortunately there are no dates of comics
there---I guess they ought to be added. Then in the file
four-colors.index are the data on the comics in those books. Maybe
one of the books Jamal has is OS 1239 from 1961. Then the index says:

> W OS 1239 FC 1 FD CB Under the bear fur
> W OS 1239 01 1 US JB QUICK THINKING KA 620101
> W OS 1239 02 9 DD JB PACKAGE PROBLEM KA 623101
> W OS 1239 03 6 DA JB IN THE KNOW KA 624603
> W OS 1239 04 2 DD JB BIG CAT CAPER
> W OS 1239 05 5 US JB PRIZE MISPRINT KA 664901
> W OS 1239 06 4 GG JB FORGETFUL FOWL KA 623102
> W OS 1239 07 5 GD JB FARMY-TYPE FRIENDS KA 623305
> W OS 1239 08 1 DD JB HIGH AND HIGH
> W OS 1239 09 1 DA JB IN THE BAG
> W OS 1239 10 1 DD TS BIG DEAL KA 630306

Then it's evidently Jack Bradbury (= JB) that Jamal thinks is lousy.
Four Color 1140 which is a Donald Duck Album from 1960 is mostly by
Tony Strobl (= TS) though. None of them are lousy in my humble
opinion by the way.

Harry:
> Why would you want to do that [use paper mail], if you have e-mail?

Does your employer know that you're badmouthing snail mail like that.
:-)

Jellybeans:
> Where did Darkwing Duck get his powers from?
> I must confess that I've never read a Darkwing Duck comic, I've only seen
> him on TV.

Rich:
> I believe the Disney Afternoon series gave a couple different scenarios for
> that answer. I forget which is accepted as canon. Maybe Stephanie or one of
> the other Ranger-Listers can answer that.

She isn't on this list though, but I guess the ranger-listers will
know the answer to that question (if there is one). Write to
Stephanie da Silva <arielle at taronga.com> to join ranger-list which is
about Disney TV animation.
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at student.docs.uu.se
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"

"
Per Starback replied to my mail:

me> There is only one _earlier_ story [before Magica's first appearance]
me> with the number one dime, but with no reference to "luck" at all.

Per> Ha, gotcha! :-) It's at least in "The Second-Richest Duck" (US 15)
Per> *and* "Billions in the Hole" (US 33); both before "The Midas Touch"
Per> (US 36).

I never thought of that! I always thought Barks revived the dime when he
introduced Magica...
This shows one can learn a lot from joining the disney-comics mailing list!

Thank you, Per.

Something different:
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A question about April, May and June: I know in which story they appeard
first, but when was their _second_ appearance? And when did they get their
_names_?

--Harry.

Harry Fluks ()_() Dutch Disney comics freak
PTT Research, Leidschendam (_) H.W.Fluks at research.ptt.nl
"Yeah... I've _heard_ of coral barques!"