Hello folks!
I am new to the list, and thus I do not know if this question is against
the rules...
But... Does any of you know where I could order Don Rosa posters or such
stuff? I am very fond of his style! Also if anyone knows a good place
for ordering old Disney comics, I'd be very grateful... We in Finland get
quite a lot of Don Rosas masterpieces these days in our local Donald Duck
magazine. *happy*
-Henri
--
'I got ran over by truth one day, I did not see the red light
Since the accident I've walked this way, I only did what felt right'
E-mail : trhera at uta.fi
tel : 931-2224950
Author
Topic: 199309
(132 messages)
Henri Rantanen
Don Rosa art
Message 121 -
1993-09-29 at 13:32:08
Harry Fluks
Don Rosa art
Message 122 -
1993-09-29 at 19:27:45
Henri:
> I am new to the list, and thus I do not know if this question is against
> the rules...
Rules? Do we have rules? Dewey, make some rules! Quick!
8-)
--Harry.
> I am new to the list, and thus I do not know if this question is against
> the rules...
Rules? Do we have rules? Dewey, make some rules! Quick!
8-)
--Harry.
Torsten Wesley Adair
Don Rosa art
Message 123 -
1993-09-30 at 00:14:24
On Wed, 29 September 1993, Harry Fluks wrote:
> Henri:
> > I am new to the list, and thus I do not know if this question is against
> > the rules...
> Rules? Do we have rules? Dewey, make some rules! Quick!
We don't need no steenking rules! (Mexican accent)
We dan need na stinkin rules! (Scottish accent)
Rule #1 There are no rules.
Rule #2 Since there are no rules, there are no prescribed punishments.
Rule #3 Since there are no prescribed punishments, use whatever
methods you feel will be most effective.
Rule #4 Do unto others as they do unto you.
In other words, watch your punishments, as you may be
punished tomorrow.
I think the most effective punishment, and the best deterrent, would be to
have the wrong-do-er read bad Disney stories, selected by the membership
of this group.
Torsten Adair torsten at cwis.unomaha.edu Omaha, NE, USA
(My house is made of plexiglass.)
> Henri:
> > I am new to the list, and thus I do not know if this question is against
> > the rules...
> Rules? Do we have rules? Dewey, make some rules! Quick!
We don't need no steenking rules! (Mexican accent)
We dan need na stinkin rules! (Scottish accent)
Rule #1 There are no rules.
Rule #2 Since there are no rules, there are no prescribed punishments.
Rule #3 Since there are no prescribed punishments, use whatever
methods you feel will be most effective.
Rule #4 Do unto others as they do unto you.
In other words, watch your punishments, as you may be
punished tomorrow.
I think the most effective punishment, and the best deterrent, would be to
have the wrong-do-er read bad Disney stories, selected by the membership
of this group.
Torsten Adair torsten at cwis.unomaha.edu Omaha, NE, USA
(My house is made of plexiglass.)
David A Gerstein
Disney-comics digest #113.
Message 124 -
1993-09-30 at 04:09:15
Dear Folks,
Torsten calls for *bad* Disney stories: We've had our lists
of our favorites, now here are a few of my _least_ favorites:
[Old stories]
1. Mickey Mouse in "Tom-Tom Island" (1950). Drawn by Stan
Walsh, I think. This attempted sequel to "An Education for Thursday"
is not only about three times as prejudiced (quite a feat), but is
just so unbelievably *bad* it's hard to believe it was accepted.
2. Donald Duck in "The Spirit of '76" (1951). This God-awful
piece of tripe appeared in the back of some Barks one-shot. The
artist draws Donald like an albino Daffy, and the idea of the ducks
becoming obsessed with reliving the lives of the pioneers is
out-of-character and unconvincing given all that they suffer.
3. Mickey Mouse in "The Mystery of the Robot Army" (1952).
Drawn (again!) by Stan Walsh. This awful idea tries to meld "Blaggard
Castle" with "The World of Tomorrow" and goes *nowwhere*, as well as
featuring the unforgivable business about making robot hearts out of
old tin cans. Surprisingly, it actually was demanded by
letter-writers for reprint!
4. Donald Duck in "Have Gun, Will Dance" (1964). The only
Barks story to make this list is here due to its improbabilities and
awful pacing. Why, if the gun that the nephews find in their cereal
box actually shoots a ray due to the cereal company following the
blueprint too closely, doesn't the ray work like the *genuine* ray?
5. Uncle Scrooge (title unknown, circa 1966). Scrooge is
shown as having been born in the United States and having an old high
school friend who's actually a crook, named Starfish Fred. What an
utter travesty!
[New stories]
1. Mickey Mouse in "The Lost Palace of Kashi" (1991). Under
a superb Rick Hoover cover (MMA 15) we find a story that seems like a
pastiche of Paul Murry's worst stories, weasel helper for Pete and all
It also reminds me of one Jaime Diaz design feature I find curiously
off-putting: drawing characters without eyes! Every second
character's eyes are covered by hair or a low hat, leaving them blank
and expressionless.
2. Uncle Scrooge in "Coffee, Louie or Me?" (1991). Once
again villains disguise themselves as mythical beasties to scare folks
away from the land -- this time, a coffee plantation -- that they
desire. It was a draw between this and US 245 ("The Phantom
Lighthouse") until I remembered that in this one, the writers actually
wrote out Scrooge's "Duck Tales"-style accent phonetically, so his
dialect is much like Popeye's. (Fine for Popeye, but not for Uncle
Scrooge.)
3. Bambi in "Big Bird, Beware!" (1991). After Mo Gollub and
Ken Hultgren did such fine Bambi comic strips, this clumsy episode
involving Bambi in the Duckburg Black Forest alongside typical
dogfaced kids seems doomed to failure. (Spring Fever 1)
4. Duck Tales: "Witch Way Did She Go?" (1990). Magica de
Spell lives in a *castle*, nowwhere *near* Mt. Vesuvius, eventually
gets Old Number One in her clutches and, apparently not remembering
her amulet formula, wonders now that she has it, why did she ever want
it and what is she going to do with it? A very ugly version of
Magica, too. No wonder Scrooge refers to the formerly-attractive
sorceress as "foul hag" here. (Disney Comics' Duck Tales 6)
5. Donald Duck in "The Day Gladstone's Luck Ran Out" (1991).
The bizarre panel borders here are one fault, and the script -- okay,
I guess -- is harmed by ex-Whitman artists who in the most dire
moments, drew the characters smiling happily at every opportunity.
The idea of Gladstone's luck turning on him has been done many,
better, times before. (Disney Comics' DDA 14)
[End of list]
Does anyone else have any least-favorites? I'd enjoy hearing
what they were. Sounds like Jim Fletcher isn't very well-liked around
here, although I haven't seen one of his stories. Is his art much
like Stan Walsh's?
Your friend,
David Gerstein
"The only way to get ahead of Mickey Mouse is to *run* in
*front* of him!"
<David.A.Gerstein at williams.edu>
Torsten calls for *bad* Disney stories: We've had our lists
of our favorites, now here are a few of my _least_ favorites:
[Old stories]
1. Mickey Mouse in "Tom-Tom Island" (1950). Drawn by Stan
Walsh, I think. This attempted sequel to "An Education for Thursday"
is not only about three times as prejudiced (quite a feat), but is
just so unbelievably *bad* it's hard to believe it was accepted.
2. Donald Duck in "The Spirit of '76" (1951). This God-awful
piece of tripe appeared in the back of some Barks one-shot. The
artist draws Donald like an albino Daffy, and the idea of the ducks
becoming obsessed with reliving the lives of the pioneers is
out-of-character and unconvincing given all that they suffer.
3. Mickey Mouse in "The Mystery of the Robot Army" (1952).
Drawn (again!) by Stan Walsh. This awful idea tries to meld "Blaggard
Castle" with "The World of Tomorrow" and goes *nowwhere*, as well as
featuring the unforgivable business about making robot hearts out of
old tin cans. Surprisingly, it actually was demanded by
letter-writers for reprint!
4. Donald Duck in "Have Gun, Will Dance" (1964). The only
Barks story to make this list is here due to its improbabilities and
awful pacing. Why, if the gun that the nephews find in their cereal
box actually shoots a ray due to the cereal company following the
blueprint too closely, doesn't the ray work like the *genuine* ray?
5. Uncle Scrooge (title unknown, circa 1966). Scrooge is
shown as having been born in the United States and having an old high
school friend who's actually a crook, named Starfish Fred. What an
utter travesty!
[New stories]
1. Mickey Mouse in "The Lost Palace of Kashi" (1991). Under
a superb Rick Hoover cover (MMA 15) we find a story that seems like a
pastiche of Paul Murry's worst stories, weasel helper for Pete and all
It also reminds me of one Jaime Diaz design feature I find curiously
off-putting: drawing characters without eyes! Every second
character's eyes are covered by hair or a low hat, leaving them blank
and expressionless.
2. Uncle Scrooge in "Coffee, Louie or Me?" (1991). Once
again villains disguise themselves as mythical beasties to scare folks
away from the land -- this time, a coffee plantation -- that they
desire. It was a draw between this and US 245 ("The Phantom
Lighthouse") until I remembered that in this one, the writers actually
wrote out Scrooge's "Duck Tales"-style accent phonetically, so his
dialect is much like Popeye's. (Fine for Popeye, but not for Uncle
Scrooge.)
3. Bambi in "Big Bird, Beware!" (1991). After Mo Gollub and
Ken Hultgren did such fine Bambi comic strips, this clumsy episode
involving Bambi in the Duckburg Black Forest alongside typical
dogfaced kids seems doomed to failure. (Spring Fever 1)
4. Duck Tales: "Witch Way Did She Go?" (1990). Magica de
Spell lives in a *castle*, nowwhere *near* Mt. Vesuvius, eventually
gets Old Number One in her clutches and, apparently not remembering
her amulet formula, wonders now that she has it, why did she ever want
it and what is she going to do with it? A very ugly version of
Magica, too. No wonder Scrooge refers to the formerly-attractive
sorceress as "foul hag" here. (Disney Comics' Duck Tales 6)
5. Donald Duck in "The Day Gladstone's Luck Ran Out" (1991).
The bizarre panel borders here are one fault, and the script -- okay,
I guess -- is harmed by ex-Whitman artists who in the most dire
moments, drew the characters smiling happily at every opportunity.
The idea of Gladstone's luck turning on him has been done many,
better, times before. (Disney Comics' DDA 14)
[End of list]
Does anyone else have any least-favorites? I'd enjoy hearing
what they were. Sounds like Jim Fletcher isn't very well-liked around
here, although I haven't seen one of his stories. Is his art much
like Stan Walsh's?
Your friend,
David Gerstein
"The only way to get ahead of Mickey Mouse is to *run* in
*front* of him!"
<David.A.Gerstein at williams.edu>
Mark Semich
Rosa on the Gladstone horizon...
Message 125 -
1993-09-30 at 05:27:20
According to the latest Advance Comics, Donald Duck #283 (shipping in
December) will contain Don Rosa's olympics story:
"Set in the site of the 1994 Winter Olympics, Don Rosa's tale of
misadventure highlights Rosa's distinctive style of dealing with
Donald and his clan. Also featured are 14 pages of Donald Duck
newspaper strips from the 1930s by Al Taliaferro. Recommended."
No word on the Life of Scrooge, though...
===========================================================================
"I am Scrooge McDuck of the clan McDuck. There can be only one!"
-- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --
mark a. semich mas at csa.bu.edu
===========================================================================
December) will contain Don Rosa's olympics story:
"Set in the site of the 1994 Winter Olympics, Don Rosa's tale of
misadventure highlights Rosa's distinctive style of dealing with
Donald and his clan. Also featured are 14 pages of Donald Duck
newspaper strips from the 1930s by Al Taliaferro. Recommended."
No word on the Life of Scrooge, though...
===========================================================================
"I am Scrooge McDuck of the clan McDuck. There can be only one!"
-- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --
mark a. semich mas at csa.bu.edu
===========================================================================
Mark Semich
Spotless Don
Message 126 -
1993-09-30 at 06:37:54
I just read William Van Horn's "Spotless Don" in WDC&S 588.
Although I love the duck stories, I must confess that I'm not
extremely well read in them. Has Donald ever been referred to as
"Don" in any published stories before? It certainly struck me as
different.
Although I love the duck stories, I must confess that I'm not
extremely well read in them. Has Donald ever been referred to as
"Don" in any published stories before? It certainly struck me as
different.
Topi Ylinen
Worst Disney Stories
Message 127 -
1993-09-30 at 08:51:16
Anything by Cavazzano.
(There! No longer a lurker :-)
<Topi Ylinen = f1toyl at kielo.uta.fi>
**************************************************************
* One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them, *
* One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them. *
**************************************************************
(There! No longer a lurker :-)
<Topi Ylinen = f1toyl at kielo.uta.fi>
**************************************************************
* One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them, *
* One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them. *
**************************************************************
Mattias Hallin
Life-of-$crooge - ain't it grand?!
Message 128 -
1993-09-30 at 10:50:10
Quack! and hi there, folks!
(he said, almost overbearingly heartily)
These days, one of the major advantages of a knowledge in Nordic languages is
the opportunity/ability of getting at Don Rosa's "Life-of-$crooge" well ahead
of the rest of the world - an' lemme jes tell ya'll: It's grand! From a
somewhat hesitating start back in Scotland in the 1870's it picks up momentum,
installment by installment, and once it get's to Dawson in 1898 - oh boy!!!
In my opinion this series has three major strenghts:
a) it adheres (almost perfectly) to the Barks canon and to real historical
places and events without too much intrusion on the storytelling
b) it is a marvellous feat as regards the building of $crooge's personality
throughout the series - not least by realising that of course $crooge warn't
born a miser; that the $rooge we know from Barks's stories became like that
through his experiences in life
c) it's darn funny!!! and it's written (yeah, I've seen some of the English
scripts as well) in an enormously funny, witty and sensitively idiomatic
English.
To sum it up: It's great, it's a must and I can hardly wait myself for a real
publication of it in English (might one even hope for an album?!)
All my best to all of you out there on the ether;
I'll remain, Quackly Yours
Mattias Hallin
Lund, Sweden
(he said, almost overbearingly heartily)
These days, one of the major advantages of a knowledge in Nordic languages is
the opportunity/ability of getting at Don Rosa's "Life-of-$crooge" well ahead
of the rest of the world - an' lemme jes tell ya'll: It's grand! From a
somewhat hesitating start back in Scotland in the 1870's it picks up momentum,
installment by installment, and once it get's to Dawson in 1898 - oh boy!!!
In my opinion this series has three major strenghts:
a) it adheres (almost perfectly) to the Barks canon and to real historical
places and events without too much intrusion on the storytelling
b) it is a marvellous feat as regards the building of $crooge's personality
throughout the series - not least by realising that of course $crooge warn't
born a miser; that the $rooge we know from Barks's stories became like that
through his experiences in life
c) it's darn funny!!! and it's written (yeah, I've seen some of the English
scripts as well) in an enormously funny, witty and sensitively idiomatic
English.
To sum it up: It's great, it's a must and I can hardly wait myself for a real
publication of it in English (might one even hope for an album?!)
All my best to all of you out there on the ether;
I'll remain, Quackly Yours
Mattias Hallin
Lund, Sweden
Don Rosa
+Postage Due+Disney-comics digest #113.
Message 129 -
1993-09-30 at 15:39:23
COMMENTS ON THE LAST UMPTEEN DIGESTS:
I have returned from Norway where I got so much attention and
publicity that people were actually recognizing me in the streets. What
a world. I am totally ignored in America since I do such totally
unpopular comics, and I'm treated like a national hero in Europe because
I do such universally popular comics! Both extremes make me
uncomfortable. I think I need to visit a cruise ship in Mid-Atlantic
Ocean -- that should be just right.
I read over all those Digests and made some scratchy notes, not
necessarilly the most important matters discussed, but it's what's on my
note pad.
This whole matter of censoring this story about Donald shooting
an eagle: times and thinking and reality has changed a lot since some of
those stories were done... and we MUST all know, regardless of who likes
them, Donald Duck comics are mainly for CHILDREN who don't understand
that these stories are reprints from ancient times. As a lover of
animals and member of every wildlife/habitat group I can glom into, I
would be HIGHLY offended to see that old DD story reprinted AT ALL, even
WITH changes. It SHOULD be banned, forevermore, from the popular
editions. This isn't any more "censorship" than is the fact that DD
comics don't show pornography or squashed possums. It's just common
sense. The story should be printed ONLY in more expensive editions, for
collectors, with a disclaimer to make CERTAIN readers know it is a
"classic reprint", and there it should be printed just as it first
appeared. Disney in America won't allow that since, regardless of what
they like to say these days, they are NOT a company that honors art or
artists or writers... they are a company which seeks to profit off the
public thirst for pablum, and do so with NO controversy over matters
which are 100% unimportant to them. (And while in Oslo I found the 1992
Dutch printing of the uncensored "Voodoo Hoodoo" story in a "classics"
album... and even brought one home).
The Disneyana Show in DisneyLand: Just a last comment to
indicate that nothing changes my lack of respect for the core of that
group -- a friend who attended tells me that over half of those there
were middle-aged women. I'll be extremely arrogant and say that I think
I can guess how deep an intellectual interest lots of middle-aged woman
have in Disney. (How many more of the attendees were their
bored-to-tears husbands?) And a sentimental interest in old DD comics is
STILL an intellectual interest (someone asked me about that)... you had
to READ those comics. Those middle-aged women are only interested in the
visual appeal of cute Mickey Mouse and Bambi figurines for their mantle.
People were searching for some of my hidden "D.U.C.K."s... but
it looks like they were helping each other fine. Where was the
dedication in that new DDA #23 -- was that the Viking cover? I don't
have the comic or the art or a copy of the art. I dunno. It's POSSIBLE
that I forgot to include it. I have trouble these days in light of
recent developments to get myself to remember to dedicate anything to
Barks; something in me says I've already done it too long. I DID forget
to include it in the cover of the special $crooge issue that was just
published this week (this much hoopla) in Norway. And yes, the
dedication was in the LAST panel of "Nobody's Business" -- in the first
two stories I ever did I put it in the last, rather than first, panel...
and it was left in that story since it looked like the title on a comic
book on the floor. Any other "D.U.C.K."s you can't find, just ask.
I still want to hear from Fredrik about the art in "War of the
Wendigo" that wasn't so good. I NEED to know this stuff! As for the bad
or odd art in "The Money Pit", it was Disney's very FIRST comic, and
their printing was pretty bad -- it wasn't as bad as their lousy
photocopying, and as a result, the use of it in foreign editions is even
MUDDIER than in DDA#1 due to their fault. If the art looked odd
regardless of the printing, perhaps that because that was the first
story I'd drawn in about a year -- that was the first thing I'd done
since Disney had effectively forced me to quit doing comics for
Gladstone in early '89. And if the faces had more "angst"... perhaps it
was because the theme of that story (concerning the mentality of
"collectibles profiteers") was a rather sour and serious matter with me.
I must say that I know for a fact who the very worst Disney
artist(s) of all time are! It's Ed Murrieta and Ian Akin who did the
cover of Disney's one-shot COMICS IN 3D. I don't like my own art much,
but I was ashamed for Disney fans the world-over when I saw that
monstosity! It even overshadowed the irritation of seeing Disney taking
one of my old stories and twisting it into 3D without needing to get my
permission or pay me a cent... and then giving Ray Zone a copyright on
MY work so that whenever the story is used in 3D somewhere in the world
from now on, Ray Zone gets a royalty but I don't.
(It's when Disney does that kind of stuff that I want to go to
those Disneyana conventions and kick all the Disney-zombies in their
wide fannies.)
Oh, to Harry Fluks: I have not received any package of Dutch
comics from you yet. Should they be here by now???
Somebody wanted to buy my art? As the rest oif you know or
should know, it's a miracle that I get my art BACK... I'm the first
artist to be granted that right in writing. (Even BARKS doesn't have it
in writing -- they just let him do whatever he wants.) But Disney
compels me by illegal contracts NOT to sell or give away my own
property, "or else". So I must keep it. And my heirs must keep it
forever. (And again I want to kick some Disney-zombies where their
brains seem to be.)(Can't kick Disney because they kick back -- and
hard. I just have to live with being the only comic artist in America
who can't sell his own art.)
That ignores lots of topics of the past week, but I need to get
back to work on the concluding pages of "The Life and Times of $crooge
McDuck".
I have returned from Norway where I got so much attention and
publicity that people were actually recognizing me in the streets. What
a world. I am totally ignored in America since I do such totally
unpopular comics, and I'm treated like a national hero in Europe because
I do such universally popular comics! Both extremes make me
uncomfortable. I think I need to visit a cruise ship in Mid-Atlantic
Ocean -- that should be just right.
I read over all those Digests and made some scratchy notes, not
necessarilly the most important matters discussed, but it's what's on my
note pad.
This whole matter of censoring this story about Donald shooting
an eagle: times and thinking and reality has changed a lot since some of
those stories were done... and we MUST all know, regardless of who likes
them, Donald Duck comics are mainly for CHILDREN who don't understand
that these stories are reprints from ancient times. As a lover of
animals and member of every wildlife/habitat group I can glom into, I
would be HIGHLY offended to see that old DD story reprinted AT ALL, even
WITH changes. It SHOULD be banned, forevermore, from the popular
editions. This isn't any more "censorship" than is the fact that DD
comics don't show pornography or squashed possums. It's just common
sense. The story should be printed ONLY in more expensive editions, for
collectors, with a disclaimer to make CERTAIN readers know it is a
"classic reprint", and there it should be printed just as it first
appeared. Disney in America won't allow that since, regardless of what
they like to say these days, they are NOT a company that honors art or
artists or writers... they are a company which seeks to profit off the
public thirst for pablum, and do so with NO controversy over matters
which are 100% unimportant to them. (And while in Oslo I found the 1992
Dutch printing of the uncensored "Voodoo Hoodoo" story in a "classics"
album... and even brought one home).
The Disneyana Show in DisneyLand: Just a last comment to
indicate that nothing changes my lack of respect for the core of that
group -- a friend who attended tells me that over half of those there
were middle-aged women. I'll be extremely arrogant and say that I think
I can guess how deep an intellectual interest lots of middle-aged woman
have in Disney. (How many more of the attendees were their
bored-to-tears husbands?) And a sentimental interest in old DD comics is
STILL an intellectual interest (someone asked me about that)... you had
to READ those comics. Those middle-aged women are only interested in the
visual appeal of cute Mickey Mouse and Bambi figurines for their mantle.
People were searching for some of my hidden "D.U.C.K."s... but
it looks like they were helping each other fine. Where was the
dedication in that new DDA #23 -- was that the Viking cover? I don't
have the comic or the art or a copy of the art. I dunno. It's POSSIBLE
that I forgot to include it. I have trouble these days in light of
recent developments to get myself to remember to dedicate anything to
Barks; something in me says I've already done it too long. I DID forget
to include it in the cover of the special $crooge issue that was just
published this week (this much hoopla) in Norway. And yes, the
dedication was in the LAST panel of "Nobody's Business" -- in the first
two stories I ever did I put it in the last, rather than first, panel...
and it was left in that story since it looked like the title on a comic
book on the floor. Any other "D.U.C.K."s you can't find, just ask.
I still want to hear from Fredrik about the art in "War of the
Wendigo" that wasn't so good. I NEED to know this stuff! As for the bad
or odd art in "The Money Pit", it was Disney's very FIRST comic, and
their printing was pretty bad -- it wasn't as bad as their lousy
photocopying, and as a result, the use of it in foreign editions is even
MUDDIER than in DDA#1 due to their fault. If the art looked odd
regardless of the printing, perhaps that because that was the first
story I'd drawn in about a year -- that was the first thing I'd done
since Disney had effectively forced me to quit doing comics for
Gladstone in early '89. And if the faces had more "angst"... perhaps it
was because the theme of that story (concerning the mentality of
"collectibles profiteers") was a rather sour and serious matter with me.
I must say that I know for a fact who the very worst Disney
artist(s) of all time are! It's Ed Murrieta and Ian Akin who did the
cover of Disney's one-shot COMICS IN 3D. I don't like my own art much,
but I was ashamed for Disney fans the world-over when I saw that
monstosity! It even overshadowed the irritation of seeing Disney taking
one of my old stories and twisting it into 3D without needing to get my
permission or pay me a cent... and then giving Ray Zone a copyright on
MY work so that whenever the story is used in 3D somewhere in the world
from now on, Ray Zone gets a royalty but I don't.
(It's when Disney does that kind of stuff that I want to go to
those Disneyana conventions and kick all the Disney-zombies in their
wide fannies.)
Oh, to Harry Fluks: I have not received any package of Dutch
comics from you yet. Should they be here by now???
Somebody wanted to buy my art? As the rest oif you know or
should know, it's a miracle that I get my art BACK... I'm the first
artist to be granted that right in writing. (Even BARKS doesn't have it
in writing -- they just let him do whatever he wants.) But Disney
compels me by illegal contracts NOT to sell or give away my own
property, "or else". So I must keep it. And my heirs must keep it
forever. (And again I want to kick some Disney-zombies where their
brains seem to be.)(Can't kick Disney because they kick back -- and
hard. I just have to live with being the only comic artist in America
who can't sell his own art.)
That ignores lots of topics of the past week, but I need to get
back to work on the concluding pages of "The Life and Times of $crooge
McDuck".
James Williams
Don's Viking Cover
Message 130 -
1993-09-30 at 17:40:20
Don,
>Where was the dedication in that new DDA #23 -- was that the Viking
>cover? I don't have the comic or the art or a copy of the art.
You are fortunate to have not seen DDA #23. They ruined the cover by
placing the logon over top of the Viking's face. In the original
artwork, did you leave space at the top for the logo? If not, why?
Thanks for being on this list.
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>Where was the dedication in that new DDA #23 -- was that the Viking
>cover? I don't have the comic or the art or a copy of the art.
You are fortunate to have not seen DDA #23. They ruined the cover by
placing the logon over top of the Viking's face. In the original
artwork, did you leave space at the top for the logo? If not, why?
Thanks for being on this list.
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Crooks, Steve
Don's Viking Cover
Message 131 -
1993-09-30 at 19:03:00
>From: James Williams
>
>You are fortunate to have not seen DDA #23. They ruined the cover by
>placing the logon over top of the Viking's face. In the original
>artwork, did you leave space at the top for the logo? If not, why?
Strangely enough, I disagree. I thought that putting the logo over his face
made him seem to loom even larger over Donald. I liked the effect.
I can see your point, though, and why you didn't like it.
--
-- Steve Crooks scrooks at ingr.com
"Consequences, shmonsequences, as long as I'm rich." -- D. Duck
>
>You are fortunate to have not seen DDA #23. They ruined the cover by
>placing the logon over top of the Viking's face. In the original
>artwork, did you leave space at the top for the logo? If not, why?
Strangely enough, I disagree. I thought that putting the logo over his face
made him seem to loom even larger over Donald. I liked the effect.
I can see your point, though, and why you didn't like it.
--
-- Steve Crooks scrooks at ingr.com
"Consequences, shmonsequences, as long as I'm rich." -- D. Duck
Fredrik Ekman
Reply to Don and WVH index announcement
Message 132 -
1993-09-30 at 23:17:18
Don Rosa wrote:
>I have returned from Norway
Welcome back! If you will; tell us more about it. Where did you go?
What did you do? Who did you meet?
>I still want to hear from Fredrik about the art in "War of the
>Wendigo" that wasn't so good. I NEED to know this stuff!
Who? Me? *picture one very confused student here* I can't remember
ever writing something like that. Then, of course, I may have forgotten
all about it. Actually, I just went home and re-read the story to be
able to answer that and if I indeed DID write that, I must have had a
change of mind since. I could unfortunately only find parts one and
three in my somewhat unordered collection, but in those two, I could
only find two pictures that I didn't like. Part one, page four, panel
four: Donald tries to sneak away from Scrooge. Now, I don't know quite
what a sneaking duck should look like, but this certainly is *not* it!
Donald's legs even appear to be of different length... Part three, the
very last panel: The animals saluting Scrooge look, well, just a little
silly. Merely details of course. On the other hand, many of the forest
scenes are very beautiful and the climactic ending is nothing short of
brilliant. Especially, I like the picture where Scrooge says "I'll do it
myself!". There'll be no spoilers here, I just hope that all of you will
eventually get the chance to read this one.
On the other hand, I MAY have said that I didn't think the art quite as
good as some of your other stories and that is certainly true! Compared
to my favourite, "Son of the Sun", "Wendigo" is a lot more polished, but
it doesn't have the same vitality. Please don't ask me what I mean by
that, I'm not even quite sure myself.
And now; time for an abrupt change of subject.
Harry and I recently joined forces to produce a American-Dutch-Scandi-
navian William Van Horn index, similar to the Rosa index. I have sent
this to Per and he has just added it to the FTP archive. Therefore, it
won't be necessary to post the entire index here, but I will include
the final part about what is yet to be done. I hope that some other
members out there will have some of this information and is willing to
provide it. There is yet no official "maintainer" of this index, but
send any info along to either me or Harry and we'll make sure it is in-
cluded in due time. Of course, any information about publication in
other countries is more than welcome, but will currently have to be put
in a separate list, as the format currently does not allow for any such
additions.
>Left to do:
>
>The American info is NOT complete. Publishing of the D-codes and any
>K-codes not on this list, covers, titles, etc. still need to be done.
>
>Scripters, where not WVH himself, may be missing for some stories.
>
>Is the Scandinavian information complete and correct? What about Norway
>and Denmark?
>
>What is the Norwegian/Danish title for "Disney's TV-serier"?
And about Van Horn; did someone post a file with some info on him
recently? Or is that just my imagination? I have some faint recollection
of reading something about when he is born, where he lives, et c. Anyway,
I would be very interested in any such information. Also; has he done
any comics before starting to work for Gladstone?
/Fredrik
>I have returned from Norway
Welcome back! If you will; tell us more about it. Where did you go?
What did you do? Who did you meet?
>I still want to hear from Fredrik about the art in "War of the
>Wendigo" that wasn't so good. I NEED to know this stuff!
Who? Me? *picture one very confused student here* I can't remember
ever writing something like that. Then, of course, I may have forgotten
all about it. Actually, I just went home and re-read the story to be
able to answer that and if I indeed DID write that, I must have had a
change of mind since. I could unfortunately only find parts one and
three in my somewhat unordered collection, but in those two, I could
only find two pictures that I didn't like. Part one, page four, panel
four: Donald tries to sneak away from Scrooge. Now, I don't know quite
what a sneaking duck should look like, but this certainly is *not* it!
Donald's legs even appear to be of different length... Part three, the
very last panel: The animals saluting Scrooge look, well, just a little
silly. Merely details of course. On the other hand, many of the forest
scenes are very beautiful and the climactic ending is nothing short of
brilliant. Especially, I like the picture where Scrooge says "I'll do it
myself!". There'll be no spoilers here, I just hope that all of you will
eventually get the chance to read this one.
On the other hand, I MAY have said that I didn't think the art quite as
good as some of your other stories and that is certainly true! Compared
to my favourite, "Son of the Sun", "Wendigo" is a lot more polished, but
it doesn't have the same vitality. Please don't ask me what I mean by
that, I'm not even quite sure myself.
And now; time for an abrupt change of subject.
Harry and I recently joined forces to produce a American-Dutch-Scandi-
navian William Van Horn index, similar to the Rosa index. I have sent
this to Per and he has just added it to the FTP archive. Therefore, it
won't be necessary to post the entire index here, but I will include
the final part about what is yet to be done. I hope that some other
members out there will have some of this information and is willing to
provide it. There is yet no official "maintainer" of this index, but
send any info along to either me or Harry and we'll make sure it is in-
cluded in due time. Of course, any information about publication in
other countries is more than welcome, but will currently have to be put
in a separate list, as the format currently does not allow for any such
additions.
>Left to do:
>
>The American info is NOT complete. Publishing of the D-codes and any
>K-codes not on this list, covers, titles, etc. still need to be done.
>
>Scripters, where not WVH himself, may be missing for some stories.
>
>Is the Scandinavian information complete and correct? What about Norway
>and Denmark?
>
>What is the Norwegian/Danish title for "Disney's TV-serier"?
And about Van Horn; did someone post a file with some info on him
recently? Or is that just my imagination? I have some faint recollection
of reading something about when he is born, where he lives, et c. Anyway,
I would be very interested in any such information. Also; has he done
any comics before starting to work for Gladstone?
/Fredrik