Dear Folks,
I noticed the comment about doing glow-in-the-dark, die-cut,
etc. etc. covers on Gladstone comics. The frightening part is that
this kind of thing actually seems to make the slop Marvel and DC ladle
out *more* successful.
Gladstone almost had a die-cut cover for D&M 20 (presumably
those gunshot holes on the cover would have been cut out), but John
Clark told me that at the last minute they found out it would have
been too expensive.
I'm not sure who said that Gladstone, rather than Donald,
would be a better replacement for Scrooge. I guess WDC&S 124
("Billions to Sneeze At") is a good example of why Donald wouldn't
manage our favorite tightwad's moolah all that well! And Don Rosa's
"Nobody's Business" backs that up. Scrooge: "Competing with the
Gladstone luck in business is the only thing that could *ruin* me!"
(US 220, 1987).
We had a big discussion last spring as to how many Mickey
stories had "emotional" moments in them like the Duck stories and how
many lacked same. At the San Diego Comic Con I got WDC&S #9 and a
rare Italian book in English that provided two important examples.
"MM in the Foreign Legion" (in #9) has Pete -- now Sergeant
Beau Chest of the Legion -- send Mickey on a 200-mile hike in the
desert. When he makes the mistake of bragging about this to his
superior, he's told that unless he rescues Mickey, the penalty is
death, so he rides out to find him. "It's yer old pal, Pegleg Pete!"
he says, as he tries to revive the unconscious Mickey. "I fergive yuh
fer all thuh things yuh done tuh *me*..." (Note: Pete has always
viewed Mickey as being the aggressor!) Mickey indeed revives and gets
onto Pete's horse, then tells Pete, "Since you're th' one who... had
me walk out here, let's see how you like *walkin' back!* So long,
Pete!" After riding some distance away, Mickey breaks down. "Aw,
he'd never make it... I can't let *anybody* go through what *I* went
through!" So to Pete's disbelief, he rides back and picks him up.
"I'm sure glad I hate yuh," grouses Pete on the ride back. "'Cause if
I didn't hate yuh I'd have t' like yuh, and I don't *wanna* like yuh,
cause I *hate* yuh too much!" By now, they're merely ten miles from
the Legion encampment, and Mickey suddenly turns around and -- with a
big grin -- shoves Pete off the horse. "[This distance] is just far
enough for you t' see what y' made *me* do!" So both Mickey and Pete
have had their emotional difficulties, but in the end, things are
resolved back into the usual scheme of things!
The other example is from "Mickey Mouse Sails for Treasure
Island" which is in an Italian book from the early '70s, which prints
it and the earlier "Great Orphanage Robbery" in English (seems to be a
project that the publisher couldn't get permission to do in this
country, so just did it in Europe). Unfortunately, the story is hurt
badly by unfortunately stereotypical cannibals, something that Barks
too didn't avoid, but it has some genuinely meaningful moments. I
think I've already mentioned the pain Mickey goes through when he
believes Minnie has died at sea, and there's also a gripping sequence
in which Mickey and Captain Churchmouse race against time to sail
home, as his wife -- under the belief that she will always be a widow
-- is gravely ill, with no inner strength to live. Who says that
Mickey stories have no meaningful moments?
I'd be interested to know how you European Gottfredson fans
found either of these sequences in your native languages. Did they
come across as well in translation?
(Note: "The Foreign Legion" as printed by Abbeville Press is
pretty close to the original, but has a few minor textual changes; I
have used the original version. Gladstone had planned to use the
original version way back in MM #240, but Disney stopped the
publication, because some of the Arab characters in the story had
large noses, and they didn't want Gladstone to *redraw* the noses
because it was disrespectful to Gottfredson! Yes, that's the truth!)
That's all for now, folks.
David Gerstein (David.A.Gerstein at Williams.edu)
Author
Topic: 199309
(132 messages)
David A Gerstein
Die-Cutting and Debtors in Duckburg
Message 31 -
1993-09-12 at 20:07:03
Torsten Wesley Adair
Die-Cutting and Debtors in Duckburg
Message 32 -
1993-09-12 at 20:51:31
On Sun, 12 Sep 1993, David A Gerstein wrote:
> Dear Folks,
> I noticed the comment about doing glow-in-the-dark, die-cut,
> etc. etc. covers on Gladstone comics. The frightening part is that
> this kind of thing actually seems to make the slop Marvel and DC ladle
> out *more* successful.
That's because it's used as a marketing tool, and not as an artistic tool.
> Gladstone almost had a die-cut cover for D&M 20 (presumably
> those gunshot holes on the cover would have been cut out), but John
> Clark told me that at the last minute they found out it would have
> been too expensive.
Well, there was an anniversary issue of Uncle Scrooge which had a metallic
gold laminate for the coins (sort of like the metallic coverings on
scratch-and-win lottery tickets).
Hey, that reminds me! No-one has done a scratch-and-sniff cover yet!
Wow, Gladstone could sell millions! Think of all the collectors wanting
to get the first scented comic book! Of course, it would lend itself to
many jokes (gee, I knew Image Comics stikn, but did they have to go and
prove it?).
> I'm not sure who said that Gladstone, rather than Donald,
> would be a better replacement for Scrooge. I guess WDC&S 124
> ("Billions to Sneeze At") is a good example of why Donald wouldn't
> manage our favorite tightwad's moolah all that well! And Don Rosa's
> "Nobody's Business" backs that up. Scrooge: "Competing with the
> Gladstone luck in business is the only thing that could *ruin* me!"
> (US 220, 1987).
I said that Gladstone would be a better replacement because he is a minor
character. Ask any person on the street who Gladstone Gander is, and nine
times out of ten, you'll get a wrong answer, or a blank stare.
This is the same reason why Robin did not replace Batman. If it doesn't
work out, a minor character stays minor. If it does work, then the
company has a hot new property.
Oh, and don't forget the coupons for issue #0 of WDC&S, which will also be
available as a collector card series, complete with a special binder.
(Naturally, one of the cards will be poly-bagged with the special issue.)
And a gatefold cover, and a poster insert, and a certificate of
authenticity, and a magic decoder ring, and a sweepstakes ticket for all
sorts of fun stuff, and .. and .. and ..
I'll stop now. I'll save my ideas for Uncle Scrooge POGs for another day.
Torsten Adair torsten at cwis.unomaha.edu Omaha, NE, USA
(Anybody else own a Uncle Scrooge Fanta bottle cap?)
> Dear Folks,
> I noticed the comment about doing glow-in-the-dark, die-cut,
> etc. etc. covers on Gladstone comics. The frightening part is that
> this kind of thing actually seems to make the slop Marvel and DC ladle
> out *more* successful.
That's because it's used as a marketing tool, and not as an artistic tool.
> Gladstone almost had a die-cut cover for D&M 20 (presumably
> those gunshot holes on the cover would have been cut out), but John
> Clark told me that at the last minute they found out it would have
> been too expensive.
Well, there was an anniversary issue of Uncle Scrooge which had a metallic
gold laminate for the coins (sort of like the metallic coverings on
scratch-and-win lottery tickets).
Hey, that reminds me! No-one has done a scratch-and-sniff cover yet!
Wow, Gladstone could sell millions! Think of all the collectors wanting
to get the first scented comic book! Of course, it would lend itself to
many jokes (gee, I knew Image Comics stikn, but did they have to go and
prove it?).
> I'm not sure who said that Gladstone, rather than Donald,
> would be a better replacement for Scrooge. I guess WDC&S 124
> ("Billions to Sneeze At") is a good example of why Donald wouldn't
> manage our favorite tightwad's moolah all that well! And Don Rosa's
> "Nobody's Business" backs that up. Scrooge: "Competing with the
> Gladstone luck in business is the only thing that could *ruin* me!"
> (US 220, 1987).
I said that Gladstone would be a better replacement because he is a minor
character. Ask any person on the street who Gladstone Gander is, and nine
times out of ten, you'll get a wrong answer, or a blank stare.
This is the same reason why Robin did not replace Batman. If it doesn't
work out, a minor character stays minor. If it does work, then the
company has a hot new property.
Oh, and don't forget the coupons for issue #0 of WDC&S, which will also be
available as a collector card series, complete with a special binder.
(Naturally, one of the cards will be poly-bagged with the special issue.)
And a gatefold cover, and a poster insert, and a certificate of
authenticity, and a magic decoder ring, and a sweepstakes ticket for all
sorts of fun stuff, and .. and .. and ..
I'll stop now. I'll save my ideas for Uncle Scrooge POGs for another day.
Torsten Adair torsten at cwis.unomaha.edu Omaha, NE, USA
(Anybody else own a Uncle Scrooge Fanta bottle cap?)
David A Gerstein
Disney-comics digest #97.
Message 33 -
1993-09-12 at 21:00:03
---------
Dear Folks,
Another comment about the "ways for Gladstone to gain
publicity" discussion: Gladstone *could* do a hologram cover using
one of Barks' recent sculptures of Scrooge as the model!! (Not that I
endorse that kind of thing to promote wild speculation... I just think
that would be an inspired touch.)
Maybe on US #300 in three years?
Sincerely,
David Gerstein
Dear Folks,
Another comment about the "ways for Gladstone to gain
publicity" discussion: Gladstone *could* do a hologram cover using
one of Barks' recent sculptures of Scrooge as the model!! (Not that I
endorse that kind of thing to promote wild speculation... I just think
that would be an inspired touch.)
Maybe on US #300 in three years?
Sincerely,
David Gerstein
Torsten Wesley Adair
Disney-comics digest #97.
Message 34 -
1993-09-12 at 21:08:16
On Sun, 12 Sep 1993, David A Gerstein wrote:
> Dear Folks,
> Another comment about the "ways for Gladstone to gain
> publicity" discussion: Gladstone *could* do a hologram cover using
> one of Barks' recent sculptures of Scrooge as the model!! (Not that I
> endorse that kind of thing to promote wild speculation... I just think
> that would be an inspired touch.)
> Maybe on US #300 in three years?
NO NO NO!!! The speculator market will collapse in less than two years!
It must be done NOW, while the speculators are stilling shelling out their
sheckels on comic books!!!
I don't think anyone has ever done a cover sized hologram cover before.
National Geographic has done it, with a cool 3-D McDonald's advertisement
on the back.
Also, no comic book publisher has ever done a mutli-phase hologram, where
the image changes as your point-of-view changes. Maybe for the Life of
Scrooge Hardcover?
Torsten Adair torsten at cwis.unomaha.edu Omaha, NE, USA
> Dear Folks,
> Another comment about the "ways for Gladstone to gain
> publicity" discussion: Gladstone *could* do a hologram cover using
> one of Barks' recent sculptures of Scrooge as the model!! (Not that I
> endorse that kind of thing to promote wild speculation... I just think
> that would be an inspired touch.)
> Maybe on US #300 in three years?
NO NO NO!!! The speculator market will collapse in less than two years!
It must be done NOW, while the speculators are stilling shelling out their
sheckels on comic books!!!
I don't think anyone has ever done a cover sized hologram cover before.
National Geographic has done it, with a cool 3-D McDonald's advertisement
on the back.
Also, no comic book publisher has ever done a mutli-phase hologram, where
the image changes as your point-of-view changes. Maybe for the Life of
Scrooge Hardcover?
Torsten Adair torsten at cwis.unomaha.edu Omaha, NE, USA
Fredrik Ekman
Bullethead Baloo
Message 35 -
1993-09-14 at 16:32:14
Greetings!
I recently downloaded a GIF picture from wuarchive titled bltbaloo.
Upon further inspection, it turned out to depict Baloo dressed up as
Rocket Ranger and a few other characters from TaleSpin. On the
picture is also the text "The Adventures of Bullethead Baloo".
Now, I wonder, what on earth is "The Adventures of Bullethead Baloo"?
Note: This may not be directly connected to Disney _comics_, but I
certainly don't intend to join the Ranger List just to get an answer
to this. The activity has been low on this list lately anyway...
/Fredrik Ekman
I recently downloaded a GIF picture from wuarchive titled bltbaloo.
Upon further inspection, it turned out to depict Baloo dressed up as
Rocket Ranger and a few other characters from TaleSpin. On the
picture is also the text "The Adventures of Bullethead Baloo".
Now, I wonder, what on earth is "The Adventures of Bullethead Baloo"?
Note: This may not be directly connected to Disney _comics_, but I
certainly don't intend to join the Ranger List just to get an answer
to this. The activity has been low on this list lately anyway...
/Fredrik Ekman
James Williams
Magica Despell
Message 36 -
1993-09-14 at 17:41:34
Have their even been any stories where Magica was after something other
than Scrooge's Number One Dime? I've always tought that she was a
great character who never lived up to her potential.
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Per Starback
Readership
Message 37 -
1993-09-15 at 00:24:47
Don asked:
> Which leads me to something I don't think I know the exact
> answer to: this Digest only goes to a certain number of people in this
> "Disney" group which exists over on some other BBS (than where I am -
> COMPUSERVE)... is that right? How many people are in that Disney-group
> nowadays, and how many DON'T see this digest and the stuff that is
> posted here???
I'll try to make this clear, and answer some questions you didn't ask
as well:
Anyone who can receive Internet mail can subscribe to the mailing
list. Internet isn't really a BBS, but rather a collection of several
interconnected computer networks in lots of countries with zillions of
users, most of them academics. Besides hosts directly connected to
Internet, lots of other computers can receive Internet mail as well,
as there are various gateways out there sitting on multiple networks
that will carry a message over from one network to another. This is
something commercial bboards like Compu$erve and Genie etc. tend to
offer their customers. So the number of potential subscribers is
probably mindboggingly huge, and probably not all Duck fans out there
who have access to email don't know about it.
Currently the list has 64 subscribers, with this domain distribution:
(I list all top domains, and all subdomains with more than one
member.)
edu = USA, educational 17 (Boston University 2)
com = USA, commercial 9 (Compuserve 2, General Electric 2)
gov = USA, government 3 (Center for Seismic Studies, VA 2)
---------------------------
USA, total: 29
ca = Canada 3
br = Brazil 1
se = Sweden 13 (Uppsala University 5, Ericsson 2)
nl = Netherlands 5
no = Norway 3
de = Germany 2
dk = Denmark 2
it = Italy 2
be = Belgium 1
es = Spain 1
fi = Finland 1
uk = United Kingdom 1
---------------------------
Europe, total: 31
One of the Norwegian subscribers is an automatic address that puts the
messages in a local "Usenet Newsgroup" where several people can read it.
I have no idea how many readers that group have.
Only 11 of these 64 subscribers subscribe to the "digest" form of the
list, but what way people subscribe shouldn't matter much as you get
exactly the same messages any way. The digests are collected
automatically from all messages sent to the list since last time.
This means among other things that the issue numbers of the digests
don't mean much to most subscribers. They are there mostly so digest
subscribers will notice if they miss an issue.
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at student.docs.uu.se
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
> Which leads me to something I don't think I know the exact
> answer to: this Digest only goes to a certain number of people in this
> "Disney" group which exists over on some other BBS (than where I am -
> COMPUSERVE)... is that right? How many people are in that Disney-group
> nowadays, and how many DON'T see this digest and the stuff that is
> posted here???
I'll try to make this clear, and answer some questions you didn't ask
as well:
Anyone who can receive Internet mail can subscribe to the mailing
list. Internet isn't really a BBS, but rather a collection of several
interconnected computer networks in lots of countries with zillions of
users, most of them academics. Besides hosts directly connected to
Internet, lots of other computers can receive Internet mail as well,
as there are various gateways out there sitting on multiple networks
that will carry a message over from one network to another. This is
something commercial bboards like Compu$erve and Genie etc. tend to
offer their customers. So the number of potential subscribers is
probably mindboggingly huge, and probably not all Duck fans out there
who have access to email don't know about it.
Currently the list has 64 subscribers, with this domain distribution:
(I list all top domains, and all subdomains with more than one
member.)
edu = USA, educational 17 (Boston University 2)
com = USA, commercial 9 (Compuserve 2, General Electric 2)
gov = USA, government 3 (Center for Seismic Studies, VA 2)
---------------------------
USA, total: 29
ca = Canada 3
br = Brazil 1
se = Sweden 13 (Uppsala University 5, Ericsson 2)
nl = Netherlands 5
no = Norway 3
de = Germany 2
dk = Denmark 2
it = Italy 2
be = Belgium 1
es = Spain 1
fi = Finland 1
uk = United Kingdom 1
---------------------------
Europe, total: 31
One of the Norwegian subscribers is an automatic address that puts the
messages in a local "Usenet Newsgroup" where several people can read it.
I have no idea how many readers that group have.
Only 11 of these 64 subscribers subscribe to the "digest" form of the
list, but what way people subscribe shouldn't matter much as you get
exactly the same messages any way. The digests are collected
automatically from all messages sent to the list since last time.
This means among other things that the issue numbers of the digests
don't mean much to most subscribers. They are there mostly so digest
subscribers will notice if they miss an issue.
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at student.docs.uu.se
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
Per Starback
Comments on David's message
Message 38 -
1993-09-15 at 00:50:06
David:
> [...] So if the person who used to type in CBG Gladstone ads could
> do that again if something interesting appears, I'd be *very*
> thankful.
It's mostly Torsten we have to thank for that sort of thing, I think,
and I'm also thankful for that and any type of related info. I don't
read e.g., CBG, and even if I did, I'd get it later than you US
people, so please continue mentioning relevant news items from as many
sources as possible here.
David again:
> Also, while I'm at it, if whoever supplied data on WDC&S #4 to
> wdc.index was willing to send me Xeroxes of Mickey Mouse "In Search of
> Jungle Treasure" Part 1 was willing to send me a Xerox, [...[
wdc.index is straight from Kjell Cron'e, who isn't on this list. I
could ask him about it when I send him the updates to wdc.index that
you sent me long time ago. (I haven't sent them to him yet, *blush*.)
But I don't know if he has it or if he got the info from somewhere
else. Maybe you'll find someone else here who can help you with that
ish, I certainly can't.
Regarding those stories that you have dialogued, I'm curious about
these Egmont stories that you find better than most of them. Is there
any Scandinavian reader who knows in what issues some of these have
been published over here?
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at student.docs.uu.se
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
> [...] So if the person who used to type in CBG Gladstone ads could
> do that again if something interesting appears, I'd be *very*
> thankful.
It's mostly Torsten we have to thank for that sort of thing, I think,
and I'm also thankful for that and any type of related info. I don't
read e.g., CBG, and even if I did, I'd get it later than you US
people, so please continue mentioning relevant news items from as many
sources as possible here.
David again:
> Also, while I'm at it, if whoever supplied data on WDC&S #4 to
> wdc.index was willing to send me Xeroxes of Mickey Mouse "In Search of
> Jungle Treasure" Part 1 was willing to send me a Xerox, [...[
wdc.index is straight from Kjell Cron'e, who isn't on this list. I
could ask him about it when I send him the updates to wdc.index that
you sent me long time ago. (I haven't sent them to him yet, *blush*.)
But I don't know if he has it or if he got the info from somewhere
else. Maybe you'll find someone else here who can help you with that
ish, I certainly can't.
Regarding those stories that you have dialogued, I'm curious about
these Egmont stories that you find better than most of them. Is there
any Scandinavian reader who knows in what issues some of these have
been published over here?
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at student.docs.uu.se
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
Torsten Wesley Adair
SPOILERS!! Magica Despell
Message 39 -
1993-09-15 at 01:22:13
On Tue, 14 Sep 1993, James Williams wrote:
> Have their even been any stories where Magica was after something other
> than Scrooge's Number One Dime? I've always tought that she was a
> great character who never lived up to her potential.
There was a story in an issue of HDL, Junior Woodchucks, which had the JWs
cleaning up litter. Magica was flying by, and a bottle containing acid
(?) fell out. HDL picked it up with other bottles, Magica discovered
their bottle collection, imprissioned our favorite trio in a large bottle,
and HDL freed themselves by boring the contents of Magica's bottle on the
large bottle.
So she may have been trying to break into Scrooge's money collection (i.e.
vault), but I'm sort of hazy on the details.
Torsten Adair torsten at cwis.unomaha.edu Omaha, NE, USA
> Have their even been any stories where Magica was after something other
> than Scrooge's Number One Dime? I've always tought that she was a
> great character who never lived up to her potential.
There was a story in an issue of HDL, Junior Woodchucks, which had the JWs
cleaning up litter. Magica was flying by, and a bottle containing acid
(?) fell out. HDL picked it up with other bottles, Magica discovered
their bottle collection, imprissioned our favorite trio in a large bottle,
and HDL freed themselves by boring the contents of Magica's bottle on the
large bottle.
So she may have been trying to break into Scrooge's money collection (i.e.
vault), but I'm sort of hazy on the details.
Torsten Adair torsten at cwis.unomaha.edu Omaha, NE, USA
Per Starback
Barks, Scaninavia, etc.
Message 40 -
1993-09-15 at 01:45:58
I haven't entered this discussion at all (mostly because I haven't
entered *any* discussions here for awhile, as I've been busy with
other things).
Thanks to Geir for his long and thoughtful message on Barks in this
thread, which I think explains most of his current affairs. BTW, I
have never even considered trying to contact Barks in any way, and
that goes for almost all Donaldists here I know of (except for sending
one joint greeting card for his birthday each year). When I joined
Swedish duckdom (in 1982) word had already been for some years that
Barks got too much fan mail and didn't like it as it took away time
from doing other things.
As much as I agree with most of it I don't see how this possible
Scandinavia trip in any way would be part of some conspiracy directed
against Don, though. Evidently Egmont has tried to get Barks over
here for some years now, and maybe they'll succeed now as he is more
prone to travel now that Gare has died. Scandinavia, Holland, and
maybe Germany are somewhat natural candidates as the market for Barks
stuff is great here.
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at student.docs.uu.se
"a man who never seemed to have time or money for a vacation, whose
life was continuous and seemingly monotonous labor, paid piece-rate
at a level which never permitted him to save, who never had and
never sought an adventure, who never traveled abroad and little in
the United States (only into the California and Oregon forests), who
lived in other words, something of the life of the `average' U.S.
worker (a life presumably shared by the parents of many of his
readers)---this man wrote ceaselessly about a world of constant
leisure, where `work' was defined as consumption, the exotic
exploit, and fierce competition to avoid work, to which end wealth
flowed freely from all quarters of the globe."
(David Kunzle in the introduction to the
English translation of How to Read Donald
Duck, here quoted from Barrier's book)
entered *any* discussions here for awhile, as I've been busy with
other things).
Thanks to Geir for his long and thoughtful message on Barks in this
thread, which I think explains most of his current affairs. BTW, I
have never even considered trying to contact Barks in any way, and
that goes for almost all Donaldists here I know of (except for sending
one joint greeting card for his birthday each year). When I joined
Swedish duckdom (in 1982) word had already been for some years that
Barks got too much fan mail and didn't like it as it took away time
from doing other things.
As much as I agree with most of it I don't see how this possible
Scandinavia trip in any way would be part of some conspiracy directed
against Don, though. Evidently Egmont has tried to get Barks over
here for some years now, and maybe they'll succeed now as he is more
prone to travel now that Gare has died. Scandinavia, Holland, and
maybe Germany are somewhat natural candidates as the market for Barks
stuff is great here.
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at student.docs.uu.se
"a man who never seemed to have time or money for a vacation, whose
life was continuous and seemingly monotonous labor, paid piece-rate
at a level which never permitted him to save, who never had and
never sought an adventure, who never traveled abroad and little in
the United States (only into the California and Oregon forests), who
lived in other words, something of the life of the `average' U.S.
worker (a life presumably shared by the parents of many of his
readers)---this man wrote ceaselessly about a world of constant
leisure, where `work' was defined as consumption, the exotic
exploit, and fierce competition to avoid work, to which end wealth
flowed freely from all quarters of the globe."
(David Kunzle in the introduction to the
English translation of How to Read Donald
Duck, here quoted from Barrier's book)
Torsten Wesley Adair
Comments on David's message
Message 41 -
1993-09-15 at 01:56:14
On Tue, 14 Sep 1993, Per Starback wrote:
> David:
> > [...] So if the person who used to type in CBG Gladstone ads could
> > do that again if something interesting appears, I'd be *very*
> > thankful.
> It's mostly Torsten we have to thank for that sort of thing, I think,
> and I'm also thankful for that and any type of related info. I don't
> read e.g., CBG, and even if I did, I'd get it later than you US
> people, so please continue mentioning relevant news items from as many
> sources as possible here.
Will do! I also get Diamond Previews, which is a monthly book magazine
published by a large comic book distributor (they sponsored the meeting
that Don and Carl attended in Atlanta). What this thick (phone book size)
monthly does is list, by company, everything coming out two months from now.
Since most of Gladstone's stuff is reprints, I don't type much. If it
pleases the list, I can type in the CBL in WDC&S in Color citations for
each volume, but this series is chronological, and is probably duplicated
by a file in the archives.
No replies yet on the Fleetway Life of Scrooge.
Torsten Adair torsten at cwis.unomaha.edu Omaha, NE, USA
> David:
> > [...] So if the person who used to type in CBG Gladstone ads could
> > do that again if something interesting appears, I'd be *very*
> > thankful.
> It's mostly Torsten we have to thank for that sort of thing, I think,
> and I'm also thankful for that and any type of related info. I don't
> read e.g., CBG, and even if I did, I'd get it later than you US
> people, so please continue mentioning relevant news items from as many
> sources as possible here.
Will do! I also get Diamond Previews, which is a monthly book magazine
published by a large comic book distributor (they sponsored the meeting
that Don and Carl attended in Atlanta). What this thick (phone book size)
monthly does is list, by company, everything coming out two months from now.
Since most of Gladstone's stuff is reprints, I don't type much. If it
pleases the list, I can type in the CBL in WDC&S in Color citations for
each volume, but this series is chronological, and is probably duplicated
by a file in the archives.
No replies yet on the Fleetway Life of Scrooge.
Torsten Adair torsten at cwis.unomaha.edu Omaha, NE, USA
Per Starback
Magica De Spell
Message 42 -
1993-09-15 at 01:59:11
James Williams:
> Have their even been any stories where Magica was after something other
> than Scrooge's Number One Dime? I've always tought that she was a
> great character who never lived up to her potential.
I was just going to answer that that's all she's after in Barks's
stories at least, when Torsten's answer where he mentioned
"Bottled Battlers" (scripted and pencilled by Barks) arrived. Well,
Magica is really on her way to cut her way into Scrooge's money bin
with the help of that acid ("formula X" which contains acid from
sulphurated Vesuvian fumaroles and boilings from the feet fuzz of
abominable snowmen among other things). It isn't said that what it's
Old Number One she's after, but presumably it is.
If you take non-Barks stories into account there are lots of them
though. I remember stories unworthy of being remembered where Magica
is just one witch among the others (mostly Madam Mim and Witch Hazel)
when they've had regular witch meetings once in a while.
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at student.docs.uu.se
"Does she look any *different* than usual, men?"
"We'll say! She's turned into a *witch*!"
> Have their even been any stories where Magica was after something other
> than Scrooge's Number One Dime? I've always tought that she was a
> great character who never lived up to her potential.
I was just going to answer that that's all she's after in Barks's
stories at least, when Torsten's answer where he mentioned
"Bottled Battlers" (scripted and pencilled by Barks) arrived. Well,
Magica is really on her way to cut her way into Scrooge's money bin
with the help of that acid ("formula X" which contains acid from
sulphurated Vesuvian fumaroles and boilings from the feet fuzz of
abominable snowmen among other things). It isn't said that what it's
Old Number One she's after, but presumably it is.
If you take non-Barks stories into account there are lots of them
though. I remember stories unworthy of being remembered where Magica
is just one witch among the others (mostly Madam Mim and Witch Hazel)
when they've had regular witch meetings once in a while.
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at student.docs.uu.se
"Does she look any *different* than usual, men?"
"We'll say! She's turned into a *witch*!"
Don Rosa
+Postage Due+Disney-comics digest #99.
Message 43 -
1993-09-15 at 07:44:55
Per:
Thanks for the explanation on how the "Digest" and all works,
and how many people see it. One thing was not 100% clear, though it's
probably because I was reading too fast -- but am I correct, then, that
ALL the 64 or so members of the Disney group see the same messages as
the 11 Digest-receivers, but they simply don't receive it all in digest
form, right???
And they can all post messages which would appear in the Digest?
If that's true, they are very quiet! I especially wish that the folks
outside of the US who would be able to find me some of my "foreign"
reprints would speak up.
Also, you made a point of mentioning that several of the US
users are on General Electric Co. computers. Do those users happen to be
here in Louisville? This is where GE's main computer and phone bank is,
though that really doesn't mean much.
And where's Geir Hasnes? It would be a shame if I don't get my
message to him.
Thanks for the explanation on how the "Digest" and all works,
and how many people see it. One thing was not 100% clear, though it's
probably because I was reading too fast -- but am I correct, then, that
ALL the 64 or so members of the Disney group see the same messages as
the 11 Digest-receivers, but they simply don't receive it all in digest
form, right???
And they can all post messages which would appear in the Digest?
If that's true, they are very quiet! I especially wish that the folks
outside of the US who would be able to find me some of my "foreign"
reprints would speak up.
Also, you made a point of mentioning that several of the US
users are on General Electric Co. computers. Do those users happen to be
here in Louisville? This is where GE's main computer and phone bank is,
though that really doesn't mean much.
And where's Geir Hasnes? It would be a shame if I don't get my
message to him.
Harry Fluks
Magica De Spell
Message 44 -
1993-09-15 at 11:44:56
James Williams:
> Have their even been any stories where Magica was after something other
> than Scrooge's Number One Dime? I've always tought that she was a
> great character who never lived up to her potential.
"
Per Starback:
> I was just going to answer that that's all she's after in Barks's
> stories at least, when Torsten's answer where he mentioned
> "Bottled Battlers" (...)
Remember "Rug Riders In The Sky?" (US fifty-something). In that Barks story,
Magica is after a (flying) carpet, not after a dime.
I always found this a bit strange. Just like the stories where the #1 dime
features without Magica. Until recently, I always thought that Scrooge's
interest in that dime was triggered by Magica, but Per pointed out that
there were several dime stories before Magica was introduced.
BTW: has anyone ever heard of Jim Fletcher?
--Harry.
> Have their even been any stories where Magica was after something other
> than Scrooge's Number One Dime? I've always tought that she was a
> great character who never lived up to her potential.
"
Per Starback:
> I was just going to answer that that's all she's after in Barks's
> stories at least, when Torsten's answer where he mentioned
> "Bottled Battlers" (...)
Remember "Rug Riders In The Sky?" (US fifty-something). In that Barks story,
Magica is after a (flying) carpet, not after a dime.
I always found this a bit strange. Just like the stories where the #1 dime
features without Magica. Until recently, I always thought that Scrooge's
interest in that dime was triggered by Magica, but Per pointed out that
there were several dime stories before Magica was introduced.
BTW: has anyone ever heard of Jim Fletcher?
--Harry.
Per Starback
Readership, Magica De Spell, and Jim Fletcher.
Message 45 -
1993-09-15 at 18:48:29
Don:
> -- but am I correct, then, that ALL the 64 or so members of the
> Disney group see the same messages as the 11 Digest-receivers, but
> they simply don't receive it all in digest form, right???
Exactly. The digest is just an option for those of you who thinks it
more convenient to get less messages in your mail boxes, at the
expense of not receiving the messages immediately.
> And they can all post messages which would appear in the Digest?
> If that's true, they are very quiet!
I think most members of most mailings lists are quiet lurkers. I'm a
"read-only member" of most mailings lists I'm on anyway, so I see
nothing wrong with that, even though I'd also welcome more voices
here. Probably there are several subscribers who just have a passing
interest in Disney comics and skim through the messages looking for
something that might be of interest to them.
> Also, you made a point of mentioning that several of the US
> users are on General Electric Co. computers.
Just two...
Harry:
> Remember "Rug Riders In The Sky?" (US fifty-something). In that Barks story,
> Magica is after a (flying) carpet, not after a dime.
Oops, I forgot about that one. It seems like there will always be
exceptions to general statements.
> BTW: has anyone ever heard of Jim Fletcher?
Yes, he is mentioned in Beccatinis Index. (BTW, did you ever get
that? BTW2, does anyone know if part 2 of it will be published soon?)
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at student.docs.uu.se
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
> -- but am I correct, then, that ALL the 64 or so members of the
> Disney group see the same messages as the 11 Digest-receivers, but
> they simply don't receive it all in digest form, right???
Exactly. The digest is just an option for those of you who thinks it
more convenient to get less messages in your mail boxes, at the
expense of not receiving the messages immediately.
> And they can all post messages which would appear in the Digest?
> If that's true, they are very quiet!
I think most members of most mailings lists are quiet lurkers. I'm a
"read-only member" of most mailings lists I'm on anyway, so I see
nothing wrong with that, even though I'd also welcome more voices
here. Probably there are several subscribers who just have a passing
interest in Disney comics and skim through the messages looking for
something that might be of interest to them.
> Also, you made a point of mentioning that several of the US
> users are on General Electric Co. computers.
Just two...
Harry:
> Remember "Rug Riders In The Sky?" (US fifty-something). In that Barks story,
> Magica is after a (flying) carpet, not after a dime.
Oops, I forgot about that one. It seems like there will always be
exceptions to general statements.
> BTW: has anyone ever heard of Jim Fletcher?
Yes, he is mentioned in Beccatinis Index. (BTW, did you ever get
that? BTW2, does anyone know if part 2 of it will be published soon?)
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at student.docs.uu.se
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"