Does anyone have a Carl Barks checklist listing all of the stories and
gags he has produced? I don't have the Carl Barks Library, so I can't
make one myself. I would like to have an ASCII listing so I can
determine what I yet need to obtain. The Disney and Gladstone indices
are a good place to begin to create a list. Anyone have a rough idea
of the percentage of Barks' stories reprinted in Gladstone and Disney
comics?
Thanks much.
Andy
Author
Topic: 199309
(132 messages)
Andrew Krieg 5-5379
Carl Barks checklist
Message 61 -
1993-09-17 at 23:14:54
David A Gerstein
Don Rosa on the Disneyana Convention
Message 62 -
1993-09-18 at 19:29:51
Dear Don (and everyone),
Re: Disneyana Convention -- I AGREE!!! Chip 'n' Dale fandom
eludes me, but more generally, I really am sick of people who don't
really understand the sophistication of the characters, but run up the
price by buying things they consider "cute".... for massive prices,
partly because that makes "status" nowadays. I became interested in
the 1930s Mickey Mouse through a mixture of cartoons and Gottfredson
strips, identified with him immediately and *kept* reading the comics,
so that's why *I'm* a collector. It's not just that he's an
attractive-looking cartoon character (although I think he *is* a
good-looking character when he's well-drawn!).
But due to that kind of "junkie" collecting, *I* can't afford
the things I'd *like* to get! (Like a copy of 1930's MICKEY MOUSE
BOOK, which has exploded in price since its affordability in
reading-copy form ten years ago! Or early WDC&S issues... I can
certainly *find* them, but it's a struggle to find them in such poor
condition that I can afford them -- that is, $25 and under, in most
cases.)
As for Donald, the concept of him "throwing walnuts at Chip
'n' Dale" raises something that I would like to hear folks out about:
After Barks left the Disney story department, Donald was absolutely
never the same! He lost his pretentions to grandeur (most evident in
"Fire Chief," my favorite Duck cartoon) and became a very formulaic,
bullying character.
In fact, when Jack Hannah began directing, he began to play up
the formerly-obnoxious critters who Donald dealt with as heroes and
sympathetic characters. By the end of the series, Donald had become
the *villain* of his own cartoons.
Chip 'n' Dale entries in the series are the best example of
this, although the chipmunks themselves do even the score a bit by
being not wholly lovable.
I actually think Jack Hannah didn't have a very broad
conception of Donald Duck.
What do you folks think?
Say, Don, do you have issue numbers for the coming Olympic
story or the Life of Scrooge as they'll be printed by Gladstone?
Might you be able to divulge them?
Sincerely,
David Gerstein
Re: Disneyana Convention -- I AGREE!!! Chip 'n' Dale fandom
eludes me, but more generally, I really am sick of people who don't
really understand the sophistication of the characters, but run up the
price by buying things they consider "cute".... for massive prices,
partly because that makes "status" nowadays. I became interested in
the 1930s Mickey Mouse through a mixture of cartoons and Gottfredson
strips, identified with him immediately and *kept* reading the comics,
so that's why *I'm* a collector. It's not just that he's an
attractive-looking cartoon character (although I think he *is* a
good-looking character when he's well-drawn!).
But due to that kind of "junkie" collecting, *I* can't afford
the things I'd *like* to get! (Like a copy of 1930's MICKEY MOUSE
BOOK, which has exploded in price since its affordability in
reading-copy form ten years ago! Or early WDC&S issues... I can
certainly *find* them, but it's a struggle to find them in such poor
condition that I can afford them -- that is, $25 and under, in most
cases.)
As for Donald, the concept of him "throwing walnuts at Chip
'n' Dale" raises something that I would like to hear folks out about:
After Barks left the Disney story department, Donald was absolutely
never the same! He lost his pretentions to grandeur (most evident in
"Fire Chief," my favorite Duck cartoon) and became a very formulaic,
bullying character.
In fact, when Jack Hannah began directing, he began to play up
the formerly-obnoxious critters who Donald dealt with as heroes and
sympathetic characters. By the end of the series, Donald had become
the *villain* of his own cartoons.
Chip 'n' Dale entries in the series are the best example of
this, although the chipmunks themselves do even the score a bit by
being not wholly lovable.
I actually think Jack Hannah didn't have a very broad
conception of Donald Duck.
What do you folks think?
Say, Don, do you have issue numbers for the coming Olympic
story or the Life of Scrooge as they'll be printed by Gladstone?
Might you be able to divulge them?
Sincerely,
David Gerstein
Torsten Wesley Adair
Disney LDs
Message 63 -
1993-09-18 at 22:14:38
On Fri, 17 Sep 1993, Torsten Wesley Adair wrote:
> On Thu, 9 Sep 1993, David A Gerstein wrote:
> > Dear Folks,
> > My fellow Gottfredson fans might be interested by the CAV
> > laser disc boxed set coming in November, "Mickey Mouse: The Original
> > Black-and-White Cartoons." It includes about 1/2 the entries from
> > that period (a second set will finish them off next year) including
> > "Two-Gun Mickey" (which inspired "The Bat Bandit"), "The Mad Doctor"
> > (which inspired "Blaggard Castle"), "Plane Crazy" (which inspired
> > "Lost on a Desert Island"), "Camping Out" ("Dr. Oofgay's Secret
> > Serum") and many others. These are my personal favorite animated
> > cartoons, and I think anyone who hasn't seen them is missing a trove
> > of treasure suitable for Scrooge McDuck's money bin.
> HALLELUJAH!!!!
> Disney has finally seen the light!
I talked to my friendly neighborhood video retailer, and he says the
Disney shorts laserdisc will be out November 12th or so.
(And Aladdin will be out sometime in October, although the laserdisc
edition will not be, but the Beauty and the Beast laser might.)
But I digress.
Torsten Adair torsten at cwis.unomaha.edu Omaha, NE, USA
> On Thu, 9 Sep 1993, David A Gerstein wrote:
> > Dear Folks,
> > My fellow Gottfredson fans might be interested by the CAV
> > laser disc boxed set coming in November, "Mickey Mouse: The Original
> > Black-and-White Cartoons." It includes about 1/2 the entries from
> > that period (a second set will finish them off next year) including
> > "Two-Gun Mickey" (which inspired "The Bat Bandit"), "The Mad Doctor"
> > (which inspired "Blaggard Castle"), "Plane Crazy" (which inspired
> > "Lost on a Desert Island"), "Camping Out" ("Dr. Oofgay's Secret
> > Serum") and many others. These are my personal favorite animated
> > cartoons, and I think anyone who hasn't seen them is missing a trove
> > of treasure suitable for Scrooge McDuck's money bin.
> HALLELUJAH!!!!
> Disney has finally seen the light!
I talked to my friendly neighborhood video retailer, and he says the
Disney shorts laserdisc will be out November 12th or so.
(And Aladdin will be out sometime in October, although the laserdisc
edition will not be, but the Beauty and the Beast laser might.)
But I digress.
Torsten Adair torsten at cwis.unomaha.edu Omaha, NE, USA
Torsten Wesley Adair
Stand up and be heard!!!.. Please!
Message 64 -
1993-09-18 at 22:23:31
On Fri, 17 Sep 1993, Gilbert Milburn wrote:
>
> Also, I have, had lucker(s) contact me privately who've said,
> that they are still a little nervous about blindly writing to any
> list that Mr. Rosa is a member of.... my response has always been
> something to this effect: "I can understand your feelings, but I
> have known Don now, for about 10+ years (and I known OF him even
> LONGER) -- he's one of the easiest persons that I know to talk to
> and HIGHLY appreciative of his fans! However, I too still get a
> little nervous at times!! So, I can't really blame you for
> remaining a *lurker* (although, it would be NICE if you joined us
> in the sunshine! =)." ..and you already know this, (you know who
> you are out THERE) if you received my letter (but regardless of,
> whether you have or haven't... write back as soon as you can!).
I am going to repeat the advice I have heard from comic book convention
attendees.
1) Don't be afraid to approach a professional. They may be wonderful
and creative people, but they are people, and most like to meet the people
who enjoy their work.
2) Be polite. If they are talking to someone, or they are on their
way to a panel, then wait, or politely introduce yourself.
3) You don't have to give a detailed explanation of why you liked a
particular story ("The fight between Foobar-Man and Acme Lad, symbolizing
the inner conflict we all face when we select a brand of toothpaste, was
sheer genius!") A "I really like Fumtu Comics.", while corny and
fanboy-ish, is more sincere.
4) Go ahead and ask questions about the comic books. Just be polite.
5) Some creators might autograph a comic book, others might require
you to stand in line to get something signed. Be reasonable, and
understanding. Some creators have to erect tents and take reservations
because everyone wants their signatures.
Don, are there any additions you might wish to add? I know you are not as
recognizable as some creators out there, but how do you like to be treated
by fans?
Torsten Adair torsten at cwis.unomaha.edu Omaha, NE, USA
>
> Also, I have, had lucker(s) contact me privately who've said,
> that they are still a little nervous about blindly writing to any
> list that Mr. Rosa is a member of.... my response has always been
> something to this effect: "I can understand your feelings, but I
> have known Don now, for about 10+ years (and I known OF him even
> LONGER) -- he's one of the easiest persons that I know to talk to
> and HIGHLY appreciative of his fans! However, I too still get a
> little nervous at times!! So, I can't really blame you for
> remaining a *lurker* (although, it would be NICE if you joined us
> in the sunshine! =)." ..and you already know this, (you know who
> you are out THERE) if you received my letter (but regardless of,
> whether you have or haven't... write back as soon as you can!).
I am going to repeat the advice I have heard from comic book convention
attendees.
1) Don't be afraid to approach a professional. They may be wonderful
and creative people, but they are people, and most like to meet the people
who enjoy their work.
2) Be polite. If they are talking to someone, or they are on their
way to a panel, then wait, or politely introduce yourself.
3) You don't have to give a detailed explanation of why you liked a
particular story ("The fight between Foobar-Man and Acme Lad, symbolizing
the inner conflict we all face when we select a brand of toothpaste, was
sheer genius!") A "I really like Fumtu Comics.", while corny and
fanboy-ish, is more sincere.
4) Go ahead and ask questions about the comic books. Just be polite.
5) Some creators might autograph a comic book, others might require
you to stand in line to get something signed. Be reasonable, and
understanding. Some creators have to erect tents and take reservations
because everyone wants their signatures.
Don, are there any additions you might wish to add? I know you are not as
recognizable as some creators out there, but how do you like to be treated
by fans?
Torsten Adair torsten at cwis.unomaha.edu Omaha, NE, USA
Don Rosa
+Postage Due+Disney-comics digest #103.
Message 65 -
1993-09-20 at 01:40:22
Answering questions:
When does Gladstone start using my LIFE AND TIMES OF $CROOGE
MCDUCK and same for my "Winter Olympics" story? The LIFE OF $CROOGE will
be used in the first issue of UNCLE $CROOGE of 1994, whatever that is
and whenever it comes out, January of February. I guess the same goes
for the Olympics story, but it's not much to wait for.
What advice do I have for comic fans approaching
"professionals"... I assume at a show/convention? I guess Torsten
covered the song and dance I hear the show promotors offer. I think the
only problem I have are with how to deal with stupid questions without
being sarcastic... but then, I have trouble dealing with ANYTHING
without being sarcastic since I don't consider sarcasm to be
automatically mean-spirited. For example, to the question "Which do you
do first... write the story or draw it?" (which I am asked very
frequently), I always answer "First I do all the artwork, filling a few
dozen pages with haphazard drawings... then I go back and think up a
story that will fit the random illustrations." This usually satisfies
the questioner. Another good one I'm asked several times per year by
some creep who doesn't know his head from a hole inna ground and is
simply trying to get a "collectible" autograph for resale takes the form
of the guy (usually an older flea-market dealer or such) plopping a 1962
Dell DONALD DUCK on my table and asking me to sign it; I'll look at him
and say, "Pal, I was 11 years old when this comic was published!" And
he'll say, "Uh-huh.... (pause)..... does that mean you didn't draw it?"
I am not exaggerating either of these incidents.
Anyway, I can't think of many suggestions for MY fans since, as
Duck fans, they're usually older and vastly more sophisticated than the
typical American comic book zombie anyway.
This doesn't apply to anyone on here who, as has been suggested,
is intimidated by my presence. This is good because I'll bite your
@#$%&?* head off if you have the audacity to post a message on here. And
don't forget it!
When does Gladstone start using my LIFE AND TIMES OF $CROOGE
MCDUCK and same for my "Winter Olympics" story? The LIFE OF $CROOGE will
be used in the first issue of UNCLE $CROOGE of 1994, whatever that is
and whenever it comes out, January of February. I guess the same goes
for the Olympics story, but it's not much to wait for.
What advice do I have for comic fans approaching
"professionals"... I assume at a show/convention? I guess Torsten
covered the song and dance I hear the show promotors offer. I think the
only problem I have are with how to deal with stupid questions without
being sarcastic... but then, I have trouble dealing with ANYTHING
without being sarcastic since I don't consider sarcasm to be
automatically mean-spirited. For example, to the question "Which do you
do first... write the story or draw it?" (which I am asked very
frequently), I always answer "First I do all the artwork, filling a few
dozen pages with haphazard drawings... then I go back and think up a
story that will fit the random illustrations." This usually satisfies
the questioner. Another good one I'm asked several times per year by
some creep who doesn't know his head from a hole inna ground and is
simply trying to get a "collectible" autograph for resale takes the form
of the guy (usually an older flea-market dealer or such) plopping a 1962
Dell DONALD DUCK on my table and asking me to sign it; I'll look at him
and say, "Pal, I was 11 years old when this comic was published!" And
he'll say, "Uh-huh.... (pause)..... does that mean you didn't draw it?"
I am not exaggerating either of these incidents.
Anyway, I can't think of many suggestions for MY fans since, as
Duck fans, they're usually older and vastly more sophisticated than the
typical American comic book zombie anyway.
This doesn't apply to anyone on here who, as has been suggested,
is intimidated by my presence. This is good because I'll bite your
@#$%&?* head off if you have the audacity to post a message on here. And
don't forget it!
Harry Fluks
Bop (Barks Favorites)
Message 66 -
1993-09-20 at 11:17:14
David wrote:
> As for my own favorite Barks stories:
>
> 1. Voodoo Hoodoo No other story grabbed me quite like this
> one, which I first read in Gladstone Comic
> Album #16 at the age of 14. I liked it so
> much that I read it *every* day for the
> week after that, twice on some days. I
> have yet to see Bop Bop in a new story...
> one of these days, I'm gonna do one.
I don't think the guy is called Bop Bop, just Bop. On the first page
of the story, Donald says: "Hi, Bop, Bop! You're an expert (...)"
It sounds to me that Donald is just saying Bops name twice: first greeting
him, and then as "introduction" to the next question.
And you will have the problem that Don Rosa once pointed out: will you use
the original version of Bop (Bop), or the censored version? (But if you're
selling stories to Egmont, the original Bop (Bop) would be most appropriate,
because the Voodoo Hoodoo story was never censored in Europe.)
--Harry.
> As for my own favorite Barks stories:
>
> 1. Voodoo Hoodoo No other story grabbed me quite like this
> one, which I first read in Gladstone Comic
> Album #16 at the age of 14. I liked it so
> much that I read it *every* day for the
> week after that, twice on some days. I
> have yet to see Bop Bop in a new story...
> one of these days, I'm gonna do one.
I don't think the guy is called Bop Bop, just Bop. On the first page
of the story, Donald says: "Hi, Bop, Bop! You're an expert (...)"
It sounds to me that Donald is just saying Bops name twice: first greeting
him, and then as "introduction" to the next question.
And you will have the problem that Don Rosa once pointed out: will you use
the original version of Bop (Bop), or the censored version? (But if you're
selling stories to Egmont, the original Bop (Bop) would be most appropriate,
because the Voodoo Hoodoo story was never censored in Europe.)
--Harry.
Harry Fluks
Carl Barks checklist
Message 67 -
1993-09-20 at 11:37:03
Andy wrote:
> Does anyone have a Carl Barks checklist listing all of the stories and
> gags he has produced?
On our ftp site, there are two Barks checklists, one in Swedish and one in
Dutch. I wrote the Dutch one (of course 8-) and maybe you can use that one:
all the stories are there, ordered by USA issue, with issue code (like WDC 132),
number of pages, American title (if any), and the date that Barks delivered
the story.
For stories that have no title, a Dutch description is added. And there is
no data about USA reprints, but you could use the Gladstone/Disney lists
for that... (grep 'CB' | sort, or something like that)
For Dell comics only, you could use Kjell Crone's index as well, but he
doesn't list WDC issues (yet)...
ftp.lysator.liu.se: pub/comics/disney/dutch/barks-index
/swedish/nk5 etc.
/crone/four-colors.index etc.
--Harry.
> Does anyone have a Carl Barks checklist listing all of the stories and
> gags he has produced?
On our ftp site, there are two Barks checklists, one in Swedish and one in
Dutch. I wrote the Dutch one (of course 8-) and maybe you can use that one:
all the stories are there, ordered by USA issue, with issue code (like WDC 132),
number of pages, American title (if any), and the date that Barks delivered
the story.
For stories that have no title, a Dutch description is added. And there is
no data about USA reprints, but you could use the Gladstone/Disney lists
for that... (grep 'CB' | sort, or something like that)
For Dell comics only, you could use Kjell Crone's index as well, but he
doesn't list WDC issues (yet)...
ftp.lysator.liu.se: pub/comics/disney/dutch/barks-index
/swedish/nk5 etc.
/crone/four-colors.index etc.
--Harry.
Harry Fluks
Molly/Tone/Tuttan
Message 68 -
1993-09-20 at 13:33:16
Per:
> Molly is probably the English name of Minnie's niece, known as
> Tuttan in Sweden and Tone in Norway. (Hmm, she's not in Fredrik's
> name list...)
Fredrik:
> So expect her in the next version. Do we have any other translations
> for her?
In the two stories I could find in Holland (1965 and 1966) she is called
Moppie. But noone would remember that name today.
--Harry.
Harry Fluks ()_() Dutch Disney comics freak
PTT Research, Leidschendam (NL) (_) H.W.Fluks at research.ptt.nl
"Yeah... I've _heard_ of coral barques!"
> Molly is probably the English name of Minnie's niece, known as
> Tuttan in Sweden and Tone in Norway. (Hmm, she's not in Fredrik's
> name list...)
Fredrik:
> So expect her in the next version. Do we have any other translations
> for her?
In the two stories I could find in Holland (1965 and 1966) she is called
Moppie. But noone would remember that name today.
--Harry.
Harry Fluks ()_() Dutch Disney comics freak
PTT Research, Leidschendam (NL) (_) H.W.Fluks at research.ptt.nl
"Yeah... I've _heard_ of coral barques!"
Don Rosa
+Postage Due+Disney-comics digest #105.
Message 69 -
1993-09-21 at 06:44:01
Harry, Harry:
How often do you address a note like the above? Or address
someone in that fashion at all, in any way-shape-or-form? You don't.
The fella's name is Bop Bop, perhaps written as "Bop, Bop".
Also, that "Voodoo Hoodoo" story was not censored the last time
it was used in Holland, whenever that was... but it is NOW. The original
version is banned except in the form that appeared in the Gladstone
BARKS LIBRARY and/or their album #16. Disney refused to allow them to
reprint that story until the art was altered, and when it was Disney
adopted that version as the "official" version for all future
reprintings. I had the dilemma of how to depict the characters from that
story when I dealt with Foola Zoola and Bombie in my chapter 11. I was
told that if I didn't draw the character's lips and noses as they were
shown in the Gladstone books, my story could not be used. And even if I
did draw it in the 1949 style, it wouldn't match any other uses of the
story, certainly none in America since 1949 and none in any other
country for a loooong while, so it would be sorta pointless.
Finally I drew the noses and lips the same, but I gave Foola
Zoola his sharpened teeth back. But teeth and noses aside (ouch), the
way I draw Bombie with all my grotesque detailing, I imagine they will
realize that they haven't banned that story enough, and take further
action. Even my modernized Bombie looks VERY politically incorrect and
stereotypical, which is my way of saying that if Disney thinks that my
Peeweegahs are insulting, wait till they see my Bombie.
How often do you address a note like the above? Or address
someone in that fashion at all, in any way-shape-or-form? You don't.
The fella's name is Bop Bop, perhaps written as "Bop, Bop".
Also, that "Voodoo Hoodoo" story was not censored the last time
it was used in Holland, whenever that was... but it is NOW. The original
version is banned except in the form that appeared in the Gladstone
BARKS LIBRARY and/or their album #16. Disney refused to allow them to
reprint that story until the art was altered, and when it was Disney
adopted that version as the "official" version for all future
reprintings. I had the dilemma of how to depict the characters from that
story when I dealt with Foola Zoola and Bombie in my chapter 11. I was
told that if I didn't draw the character's lips and noses as they were
shown in the Gladstone books, my story could not be used. And even if I
did draw it in the 1949 style, it wouldn't match any other uses of the
story, certainly none in America since 1949 and none in any other
country for a loooong while, so it would be sorta pointless.
Finally I drew the noses and lips the same, but I gave Foola
Zoola his sharpened teeth back. But teeth and noses aside (ouch), the
way I draw Bombie with all my grotesque detailing, I imagine they will
realize that they haven't banned that story enough, and take further
action. Even my modernized Bombie looks VERY politically incorrect and
stereotypical, which is my way of saying that if Disney thinks that my
Peeweegahs are insulting, wait till they see my Bombie.
Andrew Krieg 5-5379
Bombie the Zombie
Message 70 -
1993-09-21 at 16:38:07
I have only seen the Gladstone version of Bombie. Where can I look to
see the original Barks' version?
Andy
see the original Barks' version?
Andy
Steve Back Tel X 1783
No subject
Message 71 -
1993-09-21 at 16:49:51
In refrence to the disneyana convention last week, some people asked if
there was going to be any 'comics' there. I couldn't answer then as I
did not have the finale schedual of events. For future disneyana
conventions...the answer is YES. Though it is not the main theam of
the convention, at the trade show there was a number of venders with
clasic collections of disney comics. Heavy on #1's and 'old' collections.
In addtion Carl Barks was there, I missed him myself, but he was
'featured' a "meet the authors" signing event.
I not ready to give a compleat convention report yet, but when I am
I'll post it to rec.arts.disney.
Steven Back
sback at astro.ge.com
there was going to be any 'comics' there. I couldn't answer then as I
did not have the finale schedual of events. For future disneyana
conventions...the answer is YES. Though it is not the main theam of
the convention, at the trade show there was a number of venders with
clasic collections of disney comics. Heavy on #1's and 'old' collections.
In addtion Carl Barks was there, I missed him myself, but he was
'featured' a "meet the authors" signing event.
I not ready to give a compleat convention report yet, but when I am
I'll post it to rec.arts.disney.
Steven Back
sback at astro.ge.com
Steve Back Tel X 1783
DISNEYANA CONVENTION
Message 72 -
1993-09-21 at 17:38:22
Now this gets me angry!
In his latest posting Don Rosa, attacks (in a hateful manor)
Disneyanna fans. Though there is a small germ of truth that SOME
people who collect Disneyanna ONLY do it for perceived profits and
value, but Don lumps all Disneyanna fans in that same bucket and
tosses in a few additional flames as well. I have gone to a number of
these conventions and they are FUN. In fact the people who get the
least out of the conventions are the ones who only are there for the
money. The rest (majority) are deep fans of many things about Disney
(not just comics).
And yes we do wear blinders about all the 'horrible' things Disney has
done in order to be a profitable company and forgive them for the
'sins' of being successful. But the fans that go to the convention are
FAR from ignorant of the history of the company and the characters.
Don's episodic descriptions of an encounter with one fan, who was a
duck fan but never read the comics, is hardly the norm. Sometime while
reading his posts I wonder if Don likes any group other than his own
set of fans. (There seems to be a running theme of disdain in many of
Don's letters about many groups, Disney, Americans, Carl Barks fans...)
By the way I expect to get a few e-mail flame for saying even this much
because I dare to complain about some of the things that Don Rosa has
written about. Any complaints along the line "how dare you scold Don,
he's a celebrity and you might scare him away!" will go promptly to
/dev/null. I do not think I should need to explain why.
Steven Back
sback at astro.ge.com
In his latest posting Don Rosa, attacks (in a hateful manor)
Disneyanna fans. Though there is a small germ of truth that SOME
people who collect Disneyanna ONLY do it for perceived profits and
value, but Don lumps all Disneyanna fans in that same bucket and
tosses in a few additional flames as well. I have gone to a number of
these conventions and they are FUN. In fact the people who get the
least out of the conventions are the ones who only are there for the
money. The rest (majority) are deep fans of many things about Disney
(not just comics).
And yes we do wear blinders about all the 'horrible' things Disney has
done in order to be a profitable company and forgive them for the
'sins' of being successful. But the fans that go to the convention are
FAR from ignorant of the history of the company and the characters.
Don's episodic descriptions of an encounter with one fan, who was a
duck fan but never read the comics, is hardly the norm. Sometime while
reading his posts I wonder if Don likes any group other than his own
set of fans. (There seems to be a running theme of disdain in many of
Don's letters about many groups, Disney, Americans, Carl Barks fans...)
By the way I expect to get a few e-mail flame for saying even this much
because I dare to complain about some of the things that Don Rosa has
written about. Any complaints along the line "how dare you scold Don,
he's a celebrity and you might scare him away!" will go promptly to
/dev/null. I do not think I should need to explain why.
Steven Back
sback at astro.ge.com
Harry Fluks
Voodoo Hoodoo
Message 73 -
1993-09-21 at 19:19:59
A message to Don:
Hi, Don! Don, don't you think one can be adressed this way? I know my
English is not that good, but in Dutch it would be OK... Anyway, this
would still mean the interpunction in "Voodoo Hoodoo" is at least a bit
strange.
And you wrote:
> Also, that "Voodoo Hoodoo" story was not censored the last time
> it was used in Holland, whenever that was... but it is NOW.
I think this is not true. The last time the story was used was in 1992 and
that was long after Disney put it on the black list (and after Gladstone
published it).
The European Disney corp. may not be that strict about publishing
censored stories...
--Harry.
Hi, Don! Don, don't you think one can be adressed this way? I know my
English is not that good, but in Dutch it would be OK... Anyway, this
would still mean the interpunction in "Voodoo Hoodoo" is at least a bit
strange.
And you wrote:
> Also, that "Voodoo Hoodoo" story was not censored the last time
> it was used in Holland, whenever that was... but it is NOW.
I think this is not true. The last time the story was used was in 1992 and
that was long after Disney put it on the black list (and after Gladstone
published it).
The European Disney corp. may not be that strict about publishing
censored stories...
--Harry.
Fredrik Ekman
On various subjects
Message 74 -
1993-09-22 at 00:00:29
David: Thanks for listing the stories you've been working on. Very
interesting.
> H86201: "The Clock Watcher." (With art by Fred Milton.)
This one was the only one i recognized, however. If anyone is interested,
I could find out which Swedish issue it was published in. If memory serves
me right, it was one of the issues with Rosa's Peeweegah story. And yes, I
did like the story. It has a slower tempo than many other short stories,
especially some D-coded, and the script is definitely good enough to make
up for that. The art is not outstanding, but still quite good.
And Harry wrote, on the subject of Molly/Tone/Tuttan:
>In the two stories I could find in Holland (1965 and 1966) she is called
>Moppie. But noone would remember that name today.
Big deal! I'll add it anyway. Then Per can just delete that name when he
sends out extracts to new members...
About writing to a list where Don Rosa is a member; as you can see, it's
obviously not THAT hard. I've even critisized him and my head still didn't
fall off! (You don't bite people for critisizing you, do you, Don?)
A question for Don: When did you start making you DUCK dedications? I can't
seem to find them in any of your Gladstone works. And are they always on the
first page? What about covers, did you put any there?
And as the subject of introductions has come up again, I may just take the
oportunity to introduce myself. (You can stop reading now, I won't say
anything interesting in the remainder of this letter. ;-)
My name (as you probably already know) is Fredrik Ekman and I am a 23-year-
old student at a Swedish college (h"ogskola) in Ronneby. This college is
very small and specialized in computer-related educations. Some Swedes on
the list may have heard about Soft Center; this is it!
I read a lot of different comics, but I generally try to stay away from
superhero comics. The only such that I read regularily is Spiderman, and
that is only because I am trying to get a complete Swedish collection. I'm
not normally a collector, this is just some strange idea that I have... I
guess that if I had to choose one favourite kind of comics, it'd be Disney,
my favourite Disney artists being Barks, Rosa and Van Horn. At least, I'm
not trying to be original... :-) As for my favourite Barks stories; the
last time that subject came up here, I stated that I cannot just choose any
five or ten top stories, since he has done so many of them. Also, there are
still lots and lots of Barks I haven't read at all, so any such listing
would be incomplete anyway.
When I don't study or read comics, I read books (you know, the ones with no
pictures in them), practise Ju-Jutsu and sing in a choire (spelling?).
Well, that about covers it, I guess.
Bye for now
/Fredrik
PS. If anyone for any reason should try to send personal mail to me, don't
use the address I'm sending this from since that won't work! The address to
reach me, at least in the nearest future, is still: d91fe at ide.ide.hk-r.se.
DS.
interesting.
> H86201: "The Clock Watcher." (With art by Fred Milton.)
This one was the only one i recognized, however. If anyone is interested,
I could find out which Swedish issue it was published in. If memory serves
me right, it was one of the issues with Rosa's Peeweegah story. And yes, I
did like the story. It has a slower tempo than many other short stories,
especially some D-coded, and the script is definitely good enough to make
up for that. The art is not outstanding, but still quite good.
And Harry wrote, on the subject of Molly/Tone/Tuttan:
>In the two stories I could find in Holland (1965 and 1966) she is called
>Moppie. But noone would remember that name today.
Big deal! I'll add it anyway. Then Per can just delete that name when he
sends out extracts to new members...
About writing to a list where Don Rosa is a member; as you can see, it's
obviously not THAT hard. I've even critisized him and my head still didn't
fall off! (You don't bite people for critisizing you, do you, Don?)
A question for Don: When did you start making you DUCK dedications? I can't
seem to find them in any of your Gladstone works. And are they always on the
first page? What about covers, did you put any there?
And as the subject of introductions has come up again, I may just take the
oportunity to introduce myself. (You can stop reading now, I won't say
anything interesting in the remainder of this letter. ;-)
My name (as you probably already know) is Fredrik Ekman and I am a 23-year-
old student at a Swedish college (h"ogskola) in Ronneby. This college is
very small and specialized in computer-related educations. Some Swedes on
the list may have heard about Soft Center; this is it!
I read a lot of different comics, but I generally try to stay away from
superhero comics. The only such that I read regularily is Spiderman, and
that is only because I am trying to get a complete Swedish collection. I'm
not normally a collector, this is just some strange idea that I have... I
guess that if I had to choose one favourite kind of comics, it'd be Disney,
my favourite Disney artists being Barks, Rosa and Van Horn. At least, I'm
not trying to be original... :-) As for my favourite Barks stories; the
last time that subject came up here, I stated that I cannot just choose any
five or ten top stories, since he has done so many of them. Also, there are
still lots and lots of Barks I haven't read at all, so any such listing
would be incomplete anyway.
When I don't study or read comics, I read books (you know, the ones with no
pictures in them), practise Ju-Jutsu and sing in a choire (spelling?).
Well, that about covers it, I guess.
Bye for now
/Fredrik
PS. If anyone for any reason should try to send personal mail to me, don't
use the address I'm sending this from since that won't work! The address to
reach me, at least in the nearest future, is still: d91fe at ide.ide.hk-r.se.
DS.
Mark Semich
DISNEYANA CONVENTION
Message 75 -
1993-09-22 at 05:55:20
>From: sback at astro.ge.com (Steve Back Tel X 1783)
>Don's episodic descriptions of an encounter with one fan, who was a
>duck fan but never read the comics, is hardly the norm. Sometime while
>reading his posts I wonder if Don likes any group other than his own
>set of fans. (There seems to be a running theme of disdain in many of
>Don's letters about many groups, Disney, Americans, Carl Barks fans...)
I've been to enough comic book conventions to realize just how many
ignorant bozo fan-boys, similar to the one that Don describes, show up
at these things. Yes, a comic book convention is not the same thing
as a Disneyana convention, but I suspect that the same money-grubbing,
"most have HOT items!" attitude can be just as prevelent.
Due to over exposure to the used-car salesman attitude and the
prevelance of ignorant "fans" (who are truly *not* fans of quality,
but merely sheep being led to the slaughter) that I've seen at cons,
I've become somewhat disillusioned with the entire scene myself.
I can easily see that if *I* were the one sitting at a convention
table and I were apprached by 1357 fools and a mere 1 or 2 reasonably
intelligent people who appreciated my work and understood its
background, I, too, would probably come to believe that most people at
these conventions were of the fool breed. Do you think that I would be
wrong?
I've seen countless good comic-books, movies, and music albums die
a quick death in the U.S.A from corporate greed, only to be replaced
by vacuous garbage of absolutely no redeeming quality whatsoever.
I suspect that I haven't abandoned as much hope as Don Rosa may have,
but I can certainly understand just how one could.
I saw Don Rosa on a humor panel at the Chicago comic book convention
and tried to ask a question about why Gladstone and other companies
didn't advertise or do *something* to expand their readership.
Unfortunately, I was so tongue-tied and in awe of directly addressing
the great Don Rosa that my question wasn't exactly clear, but I
believe that most people on the panel did their best at answering it.
Most of the people on the panel, not just Mr. Rosa, seemed to have
given up hope of any people, besides a select few, appreciating
quality work. After two days at the con, I came to the same
conclusion myself.
Interestingly enough, that panel, along with every other panel that I
attended that weekend, quickly turned into a "just how the current
state of the comic book industry in the U.S.A sucks" panel.
(BTW, *many* thank-you's, Don, for autographing my copy of Uncle Scrooge
Adventures #5, which contains "Last Sled to Dawson," the best Uncle
Scrooge story I've ever read. I drove from Boston to Chicago on the
chance that I might actually meet you at the con and get a chance to
see some pages from your "Life of Scrooge" epic. I anxiously await
it!)
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"I am Scrooge McDuck of the clan McDuck. There can be only one!"
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>Don's episodic descriptions of an encounter with one fan, who was a
>duck fan but never read the comics, is hardly the norm. Sometime while
>reading his posts I wonder if Don likes any group other than his own
>set of fans. (There seems to be a running theme of disdain in many of
>Don's letters about many groups, Disney, Americans, Carl Barks fans...)
I've been to enough comic book conventions to realize just how many
ignorant bozo fan-boys, similar to the one that Don describes, show up
at these things. Yes, a comic book convention is not the same thing
as a Disneyana convention, but I suspect that the same money-grubbing,
"most have HOT items!" attitude can be just as prevelent.
Due to over exposure to the used-car salesman attitude and the
prevelance of ignorant "fans" (who are truly *not* fans of quality,
but merely sheep being led to the slaughter) that I've seen at cons,
I've become somewhat disillusioned with the entire scene myself.
I can easily see that if *I* were the one sitting at a convention
table and I were apprached by 1357 fools and a mere 1 or 2 reasonably
intelligent people who appreciated my work and understood its
background, I, too, would probably come to believe that most people at
these conventions were of the fool breed. Do you think that I would be
wrong?
I've seen countless good comic-books, movies, and music albums die
a quick death in the U.S.A from corporate greed, only to be replaced
by vacuous garbage of absolutely no redeeming quality whatsoever.
I suspect that I haven't abandoned as much hope as Don Rosa may have,
but I can certainly understand just how one could.
I saw Don Rosa on a humor panel at the Chicago comic book convention
and tried to ask a question about why Gladstone and other companies
didn't advertise or do *something* to expand their readership.
Unfortunately, I was so tongue-tied and in awe of directly addressing
the great Don Rosa that my question wasn't exactly clear, but I
believe that most people on the panel did their best at answering it.
Most of the people on the panel, not just Mr. Rosa, seemed to have
given up hope of any people, besides a select few, appreciating
quality work. After two days at the con, I came to the same
conclusion myself.
Interestingly enough, that panel, along with every other panel that I
attended that weekend, quickly turned into a "just how the current
state of the comic book industry in the U.S.A sucks" panel.
(BTW, *many* thank-you's, Don, for autographing my copy of Uncle Scrooge
Adventures #5, which contains "Last Sled to Dawson," the best Uncle
Scrooge story I've ever read. I drove from Boston to Chicago on the
chance that I might actually meet you at the con and get a chance to
see some pages from your "Life of Scrooge" epic. I anxiously await
it!)
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"I am Scrooge McDuck of the clan McDuck. There can be only one!"
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mark a. semich mas at csa.bu.edu
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