Donald Duck Adventures #24 just came out, here's my 2 cents worth:
I liked the William Van Horn story ("The Black Moon", D92207) very
much, but there were a couple of choppy instances where it seemed like
a page had been edited out and replaced with a small narration panel.
Does anyone know whether this story was originally 21 pages long?
The second story was a Danish 5-pager ("The Talking Mailbox", D92030
by Ingelise McCandles and Charlie Martin, translated by Gary Gabner)
which struck me as being most juvenile. I'm sure that there is *good*
stuff out there, why doesn't Gladstone print it?
The inside back cover actually had a one page gag! (Unfortunately,
there *were* advertisements elsewhere in the issue :-) ) I was
pleased that they put a one-pager here, but it didn't strike me as
that funny or that well done. Ah, well. Aside from a noticeable
"Hamilton" signature displayed near the top (whose presence struck me
as somewhat odd - just what is its significance?) and the code
(D91323), I could find no creator credits for it.
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Topic: 199311
(180 messages)
Mark Semich
Donald Duck Adventures 24 (SPOILERS)
Message 91 -
1993-11-17 at 22:01:45
Gilbert Milburn
Disney-digests #158-159
Message 92 -
1993-11-18 at 00:13:07
(* AAAAARRRGAHHHUAGAUHA!.. I just can't @?#&|%~$* believe it!!!! I sent a
message THREE times to this BLOODY list and every time it BOUNCED! A friend
of mine here said that one the computers along the way could have been down
and my messages were continuously sent back. I'm going to try sending it one
more time which means I'll have do a rewrite of my old message to make it fit
better! Here goes nothing!... *)
Hello everyone, LONG TIME NO ANYTHING!!...
Sorry, I haven't kept up with my posts, but it's been a *VERY*
difficult semester this time! This maybe my last one for awhile so, I'll get
on with it!.. (WRT some of the post in: Disney-comics digests #158-159.)
First off to (*IF* you can see this!):
Tom Johnston <tpjg9663 at uxa.cso.uiuc.edu>
Horace G. Mitchell <hmitchel at vlasov.gsfc.nasa.gov>
Travis L Searls <tlsearl0 at corp890.wcc.com>
Jeff A. Williams <jw at elvis.b11.ingr.com>
Welcome aboard!.. because Per is usually very busy maybe Harry,
Torsten or somebody else can handle your initiation! >;-D
Now on to this one:
> Subject: Rosa rebuked in Germany... by whom?
David A. Gerstein said:
> The German article making gross generalizations and
> out-and-out misrepresentations of Don Rosa's work came as a real
> shock. What's more, Don mentioned that he thought he knew who was
> behind it. The now-infamous Grandeys? *Who*?
Don Rosa said:
> David:
> Yes... you are correct when you guess WHO I think is behind the
> instigation of the German article. Same force as was behind Lustig's
> letter in CBG. That force is also objecting to Egmont for how much
> publicity I get in Europe.
As many of you know I have been a Rosa fan even before he was doing
Disney Comics'. And I get pretty fed up with all these so called "know-it-
alls" who continually *TRASH* him!
David:
> To be 100% fair, I noticed a bit of resemblance to R. Crumb's
> stuff in the very earliest Rosa stories, [...]
Hmmmmm?.. I've never made that connection! Interesting, however I not
too sure about Don work having any resemblance to that of R. Crumb's!.. want
do you think, Don??
David:
> The complaints about Rosa in this article are virtually
> identical to the few anti-Rosa letters I saw in the old Gladstone
> comics. (I saw no anti-Rosa letters in Disney's comics, although
> there were a great deal of anti-Van-Horn letters.) Nothing new under
> the sun.
Don:
> Oh, I don't mind for an instant when a reviewer objects to my
> art style or to the whole idea of this Lo$ or my sequels in general!
> That's a legitimate expression of opinion, and an opinion I agree with
> more than not! I HATE my artstyle! However, what I DO object to is the
> malicious twisting of facts and outright lies which this article deals
> in for no conceivable reason. Why would anyone do this? I can only guess
> based on other things I see going on that I'm not completely at liberty
> to discuss.
YES, unfortunately this is the case most of the time! I don't see why
people can't just let Don do what he loves doing with out always telling him
that: "You Sir, are NO Barks!" Who cares, who is anyway?!? They don't
ridicule Van Horn or any of the rest, so why do they consistently devour you
(Don) alive??? Oh, and Don, I think it has little to do with your artwork!!
David:
> But when Don's style has matured so greatly from its original
> feel (I'd say that perhaps the Crumb-like feeling is strongest in
> "Nobody's Business"), it doesn't surprise me that these letters are
> fewer now. Undoubtedly this very one-sided article is a last stand
> from those who *don't* like Rosa. I'm not one of this party.
> [SNIP!]
> I don't think that the authors of that article would have
> liked the version of Scrooge's biography that Disney might have done
> had Don not taken up the project. If they don't like the LO$, they
> don't know how much worse it could be.
Don's style can't help but to mature over time, as a fellow artist I
know from experience that if you work on anything long enough you naturally
get better at it and continually improve!
Anyways, If somebody knows ANY REASON WHY, *please* post it to the
list/digest!
Your concerned fan and friend,
-Gil
Gil Milburn <gilbert at unix.campbellsvil.edu>
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father; prepare to die!"
P.S. Can *anyone* SEE this?!?!?!?..
message THREE times to this BLOODY list and every time it BOUNCED! A friend
of mine here said that one the computers along the way could have been down
and my messages were continuously sent back. I'm going to try sending it one
more time which means I'll have do a rewrite of my old message to make it fit
better! Here goes nothing!... *)
Hello everyone, LONG TIME NO ANYTHING!!...
Sorry, I haven't kept up with my posts, but it's been a *VERY*
difficult semester this time! This maybe my last one for awhile so, I'll get
on with it!.. (WRT some of the post in: Disney-comics digests #158-159.)
First off to (*IF* you can see this!):
Tom Johnston <tpjg9663 at uxa.cso.uiuc.edu>
Horace G. Mitchell <hmitchel at vlasov.gsfc.nasa.gov>
Travis L Searls <tlsearl0 at corp890.wcc.com>
Jeff A. Williams <jw at elvis.b11.ingr.com>
Welcome aboard!.. because Per is usually very busy maybe Harry,
Torsten or somebody else can handle your initiation! >;-D
Now on to this one:
> Subject: Rosa rebuked in Germany... by whom?
David A. Gerstein said:
> The German article making gross generalizations and
> out-and-out misrepresentations of Don Rosa's work came as a real
> shock. What's more, Don mentioned that he thought he knew who was
> behind it. The now-infamous Grandeys? *Who*?
Don Rosa said:
> David:
> Yes... you are correct when you guess WHO I think is behind the
> instigation of the German article. Same force as was behind Lustig's
> letter in CBG. That force is also objecting to Egmont for how much
> publicity I get in Europe.
As many of you know I have been a Rosa fan even before he was doing
Disney Comics'. And I get pretty fed up with all these so called "know-it-
alls" who continually *TRASH* him!
David:
> To be 100% fair, I noticed a bit of resemblance to R. Crumb's
> stuff in the very earliest Rosa stories, [...]
Hmmmmm?.. I've never made that connection! Interesting, however I not
too sure about Don work having any resemblance to that of R. Crumb's!.. want
do you think, Don??
David:
> The complaints about Rosa in this article are virtually
> identical to the few anti-Rosa letters I saw in the old Gladstone
> comics. (I saw no anti-Rosa letters in Disney's comics, although
> there were a great deal of anti-Van-Horn letters.) Nothing new under
> the sun.
Don:
> Oh, I don't mind for an instant when a reviewer objects to my
> art style or to the whole idea of this Lo$ or my sequels in general!
> That's a legitimate expression of opinion, and an opinion I agree with
> more than not! I HATE my artstyle! However, what I DO object to is the
> malicious twisting of facts and outright lies which this article deals
> in for no conceivable reason. Why would anyone do this? I can only guess
> based on other things I see going on that I'm not completely at liberty
> to discuss.
YES, unfortunately this is the case most of the time! I don't see why
people can't just let Don do what he loves doing with out always telling him
that: "You Sir, are NO Barks!" Who cares, who is anyway?!? They don't
ridicule Van Horn or any of the rest, so why do they consistently devour you
(Don) alive??? Oh, and Don, I think it has little to do with your artwork!!
David:
> But when Don's style has matured so greatly from its original
> feel (I'd say that perhaps the Crumb-like feeling is strongest in
> "Nobody's Business"), it doesn't surprise me that these letters are
> fewer now. Undoubtedly this very one-sided article is a last stand
> from those who *don't* like Rosa. I'm not one of this party.
> [SNIP!]
> I don't think that the authors of that article would have
> liked the version of Scrooge's biography that Disney might have done
> had Don not taken up the project. If they don't like the LO$, they
> don't know how much worse it could be.
Don's style can't help but to mature over time, as a fellow artist I
know from experience that if you work on anything long enough you naturally
get better at it and continually improve!
Anyways, If somebody knows ANY REASON WHY, *please* post it to the
list/digest!
Your concerned fan and friend,
-Gil
Gil Milburn <gilbert at unix.campbellsvil.edu>
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father; prepare to die!"
P.S. Can *anyone* SEE this?!?!?!?..
Fredrik Ekman
Donald Duck Adventures 24 (spoilers no more)
Message 93 -
1993-11-18 at 00:29:33
> I liked the William Van Horn story ("The Black Moon", D92207) very
> much, but there were a couple of choppy instances where it seemed like
> a page had been edited out and replaced with a small narration panel.
> Does anyone know whether this story was originally 21 pages long?
As can be seen in my Van Horn index, the Swedish publication IS indeed
21 pages, which means that at least Gladstone hasn't done anything with
it.
/F
> much, but there were a couple of choppy instances where it seemed like
> a page had been edited out and replaced with a small narration panel.
> Does anyone know whether this story was originally 21 pages long?
As can be seen in my Van Horn index, the Swedish publication IS indeed
21 pages, which means that at least Gladstone hasn't done anything with
it.
/F
Gilbert Milburn
"Who's the leader of the club?.. "
Message 94 -
1993-11-18 at 00:46:05
Dear Fellow Dinsey Fans,
Here's something that you guys might get a kick out of, including Don of
course. Hey Harry, maybe you can use this in your signature!! >;-)
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Enjoy,
-Gil
Gil Milburn <gilbert at unix.campbellsvil.edu>
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father; prepare to die!"
Here's something that you guys might get a kick out of, including Don of
course. Hey Harry, maybe you can use this in your signature!! >;-)
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Enjoy,
-Gil
Gil Milburn <gilbert at unix.campbellsvil.edu>
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father; prepare to die!"
David A Gerstein
Disney-comics digest #160.
Message 95 -
1993-11-18 at 04:31:55
Dear Folks,
Gilbert Milburn quoted me:
> The complaints about Rosa in this article are virtually
> identical to the few anti-Rosa letters I saw in the old Gladstone
> comics. (I saw no anti-Rosa letters in Disney's comics, although
> there were a great deal of anti-Van-Horn letters.) Nothing new under
> the sun.
Then he added:
"YES, unfortunately this is the case most of the time! I don't see why
people can't just let Don do what he loves doing with out always telling him
that: "You Sir, are NO Barks!" Who cares, who is anyway?!? They don't
ridicule Van Horn or any of the rest, so why do they consistently devour Don
alive???"
Huh? What I meant to say was that during the Disney Comics
period (1990-93) I saw *no* anti-Rosa letters, and I followed their
comics very closely. However, what I meant was that there were
*droves* of letters panning William Van Horn. The letter column of
Disney Comics' DDA was (particularly around issues #15-18 I think) the
center of a raging debate over Van Horn. The comments ranged from
dripping praise (as I often give Don Rosa! ;-) to furious comments of
the "this art is better suited to coloring books" variety. Even Bob
Foster chimed in, in one case giving a relatively nasty answer to
someone who referred to Van Horn's stories as "drek" (he didn't mind
criticism, he said, but insults were different).
The only letters I saw panning Rosa were in the old Gladstone
comics, and they sounded very much like that German article.
In issue #21 there was even a letter from one Cap Petschulat
(I'm not sure about the spelling there) who wrote in attacking Carl
Barks. Paraphrase: "I can't understand all the shouting about your
'hot' artist, Carl Barks. He only has about four or five different
duck expressions which he reuses again and again... I prefer Vicar."
To this Bob responded, "Yeah, we ought to get rid of that Barks guy.
He's been producing clunky stuff for years now. I don't think he has
a future in comics."
DDA 24
=== ==
Gladstone filled up the issue with a story from Egmont about
.... about a *talking mailbox*? Aaargh! I'd go with Branca, Vicar
and Scalabroni almost always if you ask me. They get the best scripts
because Byron and the other editors think better of their work.
Gladstone seems to be picking real lemons when it comes to
Danish stories... I can't help but say so. From 1989-1992 I had
regular access to the Danish comics in their German editions. I'd say
that there was a lot of slop, but also some good stories now and then,
and Gladstone is overlooking them! Why? In the old days they chose
so many *good* Danish stories! What's happened? The general quality
of Egmont's stuff has in general gotten *better* if you ask me.
I'm doing my bit by choosing my favorite Danish stories to
translate for use here. And both I and Dwight Decker are preparing
lots of good Dutch stories, too. (BTW: The quality of Dutch stories
seems to me in general to be better than the Danish ones.)
That's about all for now. Soon I'll be able to tell you about
the laser disc set I'll have in a few days put out by Disney, a
collection of all-black-and-white Mickeys from 1928-1935. It'll be of
interest here since so many of the cartoons on the set were used as
the basis for Gottfredson stories.
Your friend,
David Gerstein
"Oh, the cows and the chickens, they all sound like the
Dickens when I hear my little Minnie's YOO-HOO!"
<David.A.Gerstein at Williams.edu>
P. S. That's a fine old 1929 song which Mickey opens my first
Egmont Mouse story by singing! Back to Gottfredsonian basics, I say!
Gilbert Milburn quoted me:
> The complaints about Rosa in this article are virtually
> identical to the few anti-Rosa letters I saw in the old Gladstone
> comics. (I saw no anti-Rosa letters in Disney's comics, although
> there were a great deal of anti-Van-Horn letters.) Nothing new under
> the sun.
Then he added:
"YES, unfortunately this is the case most of the time! I don't see why
people can't just let Don do what he loves doing with out always telling him
that: "You Sir, are NO Barks!" Who cares, who is anyway?!? They don't
ridicule Van Horn or any of the rest, so why do they consistently devour Don
alive???"
Huh? What I meant to say was that during the Disney Comics
period (1990-93) I saw *no* anti-Rosa letters, and I followed their
comics very closely. However, what I meant was that there were
*droves* of letters panning William Van Horn. The letter column of
Disney Comics' DDA was (particularly around issues #15-18 I think) the
center of a raging debate over Van Horn. The comments ranged from
dripping praise (as I often give Don Rosa! ;-) to furious comments of
the "this art is better suited to coloring books" variety. Even Bob
Foster chimed in, in one case giving a relatively nasty answer to
someone who referred to Van Horn's stories as "drek" (he didn't mind
criticism, he said, but insults were different).
The only letters I saw panning Rosa were in the old Gladstone
comics, and they sounded very much like that German article.
In issue #21 there was even a letter from one Cap Petschulat
(I'm not sure about the spelling there) who wrote in attacking Carl
Barks. Paraphrase: "I can't understand all the shouting about your
'hot' artist, Carl Barks. He only has about four or five different
duck expressions which he reuses again and again... I prefer Vicar."
To this Bob responded, "Yeah, we ought to get rid of that Barks guy.
He's been producing clunky stuff for years now. I don't think he has
a future in comics."
DDA 24
=== ==
Gladstone filled up the issue with a story from Egmont about
.... about a *talking mailbox*? Aaargh! I'd go with Branca, Vicar
and Scalabroni almost always if you ask me. They get the best scripts
because Byron and the other editors think better of their work.
Gladstone seems to be picking real lemons when it comes to
Danish stories... I can't help but say so. From 1989-1992 I had
regular access to the Danish comics in their German editions. I'd say
that there was a lot of slop, but also some good stories now and then,
and Gladstone is overlooking them! Why? In the old days they chose
so many *good* Danish stories! What's happened? The general quality
of Egmont's stuff has in general gotten *better* if you ask me.
I'm doing my bit by choosing my favorite Danish stories to
translate for use here. And both I and Dwight Decker are preparing
lots of good Dutch stories, too. (BTW: The quality of Dutch stories
seems to me in general to be better than the Danish ones.)
That's about all for now. Soon I'll be able to tell you about
the laser disc set I'll have in a few days put out by Disney, a
collection of all-black-and-white Mickeys from 1928-1935. It'll be of
interest here since so many of the cartoons on the set were used as
the basis for Gottfredson stories.
Your friend,
David Gerstein
"Oh, the cows and the chickens, they all sound like the
Dickens when I hear my little Minnie's YOO-HOO!"
<David.A.Gerstein at Williams.edu>
P. S. That's a fine old 1929 song which Mickey opens my first
Egmont Mouse story by singing! Back to Gottfredsonian basics, I say!
Mattias Hallin
Aloha!
Message 96 -
1993-11-18 at 10:35:23
Maybe you can explain why you spell your English like (you do). Is this really
how they speak English in Sweden? ...asked Harry Fluks
No - of course not; I'm interested in languages and dialects, and I'm basically
just fooling around, trying to capture in letters various English or American
idioms, as I hear them in films or on records, or read them in books OR in
comics! For instance Don Rosa's work is FULL of these idiomatic spellings -
although he is much, much better at it than I am - and he should be! It's after
all HIS language. I'm sorry if it bothers you, and I'll try to restrain myself
at least marginally, but I can't promise to be a good boy ALL of the time,
really - sorry!
Oh, and by the way: Dutch is actually one of my favourite languages, and one I
wish I could speak, but there aren't too many places in Sweden where they teach
it... One day, though, I'll have a go at it, I hope!
Mattias
how they speak English in Sweden? ...asked Harry Fluks
No - of course not; I'm interested in languages and dialects, and I'm basically
just fooling around, trying to capture in letters various English or American
idioms, as I hear them in films or on records, or read them in books OR in
comics! For instance Don Rosa's work is FULL of these idiomatic spellings -
although he is much, much better at it than I am - and he should be! It's after
all HIS language. I'm sorry if it bothers you, and I'll try to restrain myself
at least marginally, but I can't promise to be a good boy ALL of the time,
really - sorry!
Oh, and by the way: Dutch is actually one of my favourite languages, and one I
wish I could speak, but there aren't too many places in Sweden where they teach
it... One day, though, I'll have a go at it, I hope!
Mattias
Don Rosa
+Postage Due+Disney-comics digest #160.
Message 97 -
1993-11-18 at 15:51:17
COMMENTS ON #160:
Gil:
I can't be the judge of whether my art looks like Crumb. But it
MUST since several people have said so. If Crumb's and my art resemble
each other, it's sheer coincidence as Crumb is not one of my influences,
whoever my influences might be. I never sought to copy his art and my
ugly style was already ugly when I saw my first Crumb comic.
I keep seeing people making references to "anti-Rosa articles"
or letters other than this mysterious German one. Not that I would doubt
that such would exist, but where were they? I don't recall anything even
remotely like the German article. And if I useta get hate-mail early-on
at Gladstone, I've blotted it from my memory. Which issues? I'll go back
and peek.
The anti-Rosa stuff will be mostly or exclusively in Germany.
That's where the only anti-Rosa group that I know of has its closest
ties and influences. There'll be more to come probably this June.
Somebody was picking at Mattias because of some strange spelling
he was using. Unless I'm mistaken, Mattias was writing in American rural
slang, like most of the people I live with in Kentucky speak. It's
constantly amazing to me how Europeans can not only speak English but
speak in dialects yet, whereas most Americans don't have the vocabulary
or correct pronunciation in English that these Europeans do. Wow!
The question that someone wanted to ask people wishing to join
this group, "Do you think Chip n' Dale are cute" was amusing. Of course,
seriously speaking (never!), it's unfair since Chip n' Dale ARE cute.
The proper wording of such a question might be "Does your enjoyment of
Chip n' Dale arise from the fact that the art in their stories is
superb, the writing ingenious, the characterisation magnificent, and the
plots provocative... or does it arise from the fact they're drawn "cute"
and you are firmly convinced that Walt Disney is Jesus H. Christ?"
Try that'n. That'll separate the intelligencia from the zombies.
Gil:
I can't be the judge of whether my art looks like Crumb. But it
MUST since several people have said so. If Crumb's and my art resemble
each other, it's sheer coincidence as Crumb is not one of my influences,
whoever my influences might be. I never sought to copy his art and my
ugly style was already ugly when I saw my first Crumb comic.
I keep seeing people making references to "anti-Rosa articles"
or letters other than this mysterious German one. Not that I would doubt
that such would exist, but where were they? I don't recall anything even
remotely like the German article. And if I useta get hate-mail early-on
at Gladstone, I've blotted it from my memory. Which issues? I'll go back
and peek.
The anti-Rosa stuff will be mostly or exclusively in Germany.
That's where the only anti-Rosa group that I know of has its closest
ties and influences. There'll be more to come probably this June.
Somebody was picking at Mattias because of some strange spelling
he was using. Unless I'm mistaken, Mattias was writing in American rural
slang, like most of the people I live with in Kentucky speak. It's
constantly amazing to me how Europeans can not only speak English but
speak in dialects yet, whereas most Americans don't have the vocabulary
or correct pronunciation in English that these Europeans do. Wow!
The question that someone wanted to ask people wishing to join
this group, "Do you think Chip n' Dale are cute" was amusing. Of course,
seriously speaking (never!), it's unfair since Chip n' Dale ARE cute.
The proper wording of such a question might be "Does your enjoyment of
Chip n' Dale arise from the fact that the art in their stories is
superb, the writing ingenious, the characterisation magnificent, and the
plots provocative... or does it arise from the fact they're drawn "cute"
and you are firmly convinced that Walt Disney is Jesus H. Christ?"
Try that'n. That'll separate the intelligencia from the zombies.
Fredrik Ekman
Lo$ 9 review (sort of)
Message 98 -
1993-11-18 at 16:44:40
Don: you said that you wanted input on the Life of $crooge 9. Well,
I've had two friends of mine who are not into your works read it
and say what they thought. The reactions, as you will se, was kind
of mixed...
The first guy made the mistake of suggesting, when I told him to buy
the last issue of Kalle Anka & Co, that he'd borrow my copy instead.
He wasn't serious, of course, but the next day I brought the book
and he really had no choice but to read it. He doesn't normally read
any comics, but as any Swede, he read a lot of Disney as a kid. When
I asked him what he thought, he replied:
"Well, that was no _real_ Donald Duck comic..." (note: Because of DD's
great popularity in Sweden, "Donald Duck comic" is in casual speach
often synonymous with "Disney comic")
"What do you mean, _real_?", I asked.
"Well, things like death. You don't have that in Donald Duck. And I
have never seen a graveyard in Donald Duck before."
"OK. But apart from that, what did you think of the story?"
"Well, it was kind of amusing, I guess."
The next day, when he returned the comic to me, the transaction was
witnessed by a classmate of ours. So I suggested that she could borrow
it too.
"No, I don't think so." (Obviously thinking I was completely nuts.)
"But it has a great story by Don Rosa."
"What's that?"
"He's one of the best Disney artists today."
"Oh, I thought it was a comic book character."
I didn't push the matter further, but I later had another friend read
it. One that is generally into comics and loves Barks' works, but only
used to know Rosa by name (since I have kept telling him). And when he
returned the comic he was quite enthusiastic, nearly extatic. Don;
you've got yourself a new fan. :-) He was especially fond of the grave-
yeard picture, thinking it was not only very unusual for a Disney
comic, but extremely beautiful as well.
When I see my sister in a few weeks, I'll let her read it as well. She
is more of the typical (Swedish) Disney fan. She loves the animated
movies, especially the new ones and she reads and enjoys the comics,
but doesn't know who Carl Barks is, not to mention Don Rosa.
By the way; the friend of mine who read the comic first says (and he
won't listen to reason) that the years on $crooge's mother's gravestone
is 18something - 16something. I guessed it is 1840 - 1897. What IS it
really?
Hope noone is disturbed by me sending this out to everyone, but I
thought it could be of general interest to see what a few people
besides us fans think.
/Fredrik
I've had two friends of mine who are not into your works read it
and say what they thought. The reactions, as you will se, was kind
of mixed...
The first guy made the mistake of suggesting, when I told him to buy
the last issue of Kalle Anka & Co, that he'd borrow my copy instead.
He wasn't serious, of course, but the next day I brought the book
and he really had no choice but to read it. He doesn't normally read
any comics, but as any Swede, he read a lot of Disney as a kid. When
I asked him what he thought, he replied:
"Well, that was no _real_ Donald Duck comic..." (note: Because of DD's
great popularity in Sweden, "Donald Duck comic" is in casual speach
often synonymous with "Disney comic")
"What do you mean, _real_?", I asked.
"Well, things like death. You don't have that in Donald Duck. And I
have never seen a graveyard in Donald Duck before."
"OK. But apart from that, what did you think of the story?"
"Well, it was kind of amusing, I guess."
The next day, when he returned the comic to me, the transaction was
witnessed by a classmate of ours. So I suggested that she could borrow
it too.
"No, I don't think so." (Obviously thinking I was completely nuts.)
"But it has a great story by Don Rosa."
"What's that?"
"He's one of the best Disney artists today."
"Oh, I thought it was a comic book character."
I didn't push the matter further, but I later had another friend read
it. One that is generally into comics and loves Barks' works, but only
used to know Rosa by name (since I have kept telling him). And when he
returned the comic he was quite enthusiastic, nearly extatic. Don;
you've got yourself a new fan. :-) He was especially fond of the grave-
yeard picture, thinking it was not only very unusual for a Disney
comic, but extremely beautiful as well.
When I see my sister in a few weeks, I'll let her read it as well. She
is more of the typical (Swedish) Disney fan. She loves the animated
movies, especially the new ones and she reads and enjoys the comics,
but doesn't know who Carl Barks is, not to mention Don Rosa.
By the way; the friend of mine who read the comic first says (and he
won't listen to reason) that the years on $crooge's mother's gravestone
is 18something - 16something. I guessed it is 1840 - 1897. What IS it
really?
Hope noone is disturbed by me sending this out to everyone, but I
thought it could be of general interest to see what a few people
besides us fans think.
/Fredrik
Andrew Krieg 5-5379
Aloha!
Message 99 -
1993-11-18 at 17:33:39
>Tom Tonida said:
>
>Chris Lawton said:
>> I'm also a sometimes reader/poster to rec.arts.disney. I find that I have
>> mixed feelings about the comments by Don Rosa. I find that I skip over
>> ~95% of the articles. I agree with Don that most of the bandwidth there
>> is wasted (i.e. "Oh - Ariel is sooo cute!" for hundreds of messages gets
>
>I can agree with this, and I do the FAQ for that group. Still, there is
>some valuable information there, if you can find it. :-) I worry for
>the future of the Internet (there's a million new members a month)-
>these days, the same subjects come up often (I could make the FAQ
>longer, as if 150K isn't big enough ;-)), 90% of some messages are included
>from previous messages, etc. etc. But there are some Disney insiders
>there (and on the FLORIDA forum on Compuserve) which make it generally
>worthwhile (plus I'm writing some custom software to help me weed info
>out). It's nice to have the quiet little Disney Comics mailing list
>to turn to (though what's with all the "subscribe me please" messages
>sent to the list recently?!? :-( Yeah, I know.)
Didja know that I created rec.arts.disney? Yep, I proposed it, sent out
the calls for discussion, did the vote, the whole shebang. It did not
quite turn out the way I envisioned it. I expected a lot more discussion
on comics and Disney's classic animation, not the current stuff. I collect
Disney classic animation (shorts, movies, public service films, etc.),
Disney CDs, Disney books (a signed edition of _Disney Animation: The Illusion
of Life_ is one of my prized possessions), Disney comics and Disney LPs. I
was hoping other collectors would also post, talking about things they are
looking for, swapping cartoons, selling items, and the like. I also enjoy
going to the parks now and then, and inside info on places to go and things
to do was also encouraged. These were the types of topics I was hoping to
see discussed. When the newsgroup started, it wasn't too bad. Now I read
about 5% of the messages. There is way too much talk about sales figures for
video tapes, lusting after voice actresses, a make believe "Future Disney
Council", Eisner's salary, song parodies, etc.
Oh well, all newsgroups have there share of noise. Why should this one be
any different?
I was also one of the original subscribers to this mailing list (Per saw
some of my Disney comics posts on r.a.d. and r.a.comics) and haven't
regretted it a bit. Sure we go off of the beaten path on occasion (like
now), but I know a letter chock full o' good stuff is just around the
corner. Unfortunately, r.a.d. has bigger corners.
=========================================================================
= Andrew Krieg | =
= krieg at ct.med.ge.com | Treguna Mekoides Trecorum Satis Dee =
= or | =
= krieg at point.cs.uwm.edu| - Astoroth =
=========================================================================
>
>Chris Lawton said:
>> I'm also a sometimes reader/poster to rec.arts.disney. I find that I have
>> mixed feelings about the comments by Don Rosa. I find that I skip over
>> ~95% of the articles. I agree with Don that most of the bandwidth there
>> is wasted (i.e. "Oh - Ariel is sooo cute!" for hundreds of messages gets
>
>I can agree with this, and I do the FAQ for that group. Still, there is
>some valuable information there, if you can find it. :-) I worry for
>the future of the Internet (there's a million new members a month)-
>these days, the same subjects come up often (I could make the FAQ
>longer, as if 150K isn't big enough ;-)), 90% of some messages are included
>from previous messages, etc. etc. But there are some Disney insiders
>there (and on the FLORIDA forum on Compuserve) which make it generally
>worthwhile (plus I'm writing some custom software to help me weed info
>out). It's nice to have the quiet little Disney Comics mailing list
>to turn to (though what's with all the "subscribe me please" messages
>sent to the list recently?!? :-( Yeah, I know.)
Didja know that I created rec.arts.disney? Yep, I proposed it, sent out
the calls for discussion, did the vote, the whole shebang. It did not
quite turn out the way I envisioned it. I expected a lot more discussion
on comics and Disney's classic animation, not the current stuff. I collect
Disney classic animation (shorts, movies, public service films, etc.),
Disney CDs, Disney books (a signed edition of _Disney Animation: The Illusion
of Life_ is one of my prized possessions), Disney comics and Disney LPs. I
was hoping other collectors would also post, talking about things they are
looking for, swapping cartoons, selling items, and the like. I also enjoy
going to the parks now and then, and inside info on places to go and things
to do was also encouraged. These were the types of topics I was hoping to
see discussed. When the newsgroup started, it wasn't too bad. Now I read
about 5% of the messages. There is way too much talk about sales figures for
video tapes, lusting after voice actresses, a make believe "Future Disney
Council", Eisner's salary, song parodies, etc.
Oh well, all newsgroups have there share of noise. Why should this one be
any different?
I was also one of the original subscribers to this mailing list (Per saw
some of my Disney comics posts on r.a.d. and r.a.comics) and haven't
regretted it a bit. Sure we go off of the beaten path on occasion (like
now), but I know a letter chock full o' good stuff is just around the
corner. Unfortunately, r.a.d. has bigger corners.
=========================================================================
= Andrew Krieg | =
= krieg at ct.med.ge.com | Treguna Mekoides Trecorum Satis Dee =
= or | =
= krieg at point.cs.uwm.edu| - Astoroth =
=========================================================================
Ronny Haavard Arild
Test
Message 100 -
1993-11-18 at 20:19:05
ronnya at lglab1a.CS.UiT.NO (Ronny Haavard Arild) writes:
> Just a test to see if this goes to the mailing list (posting from
> fa.disney-comics).
Put 'To: disney-comics at student.docs.uu.se' in header.
> Just a test to see if this goes to the mailing list (posting from
> fa.disney-comics).
Put 'To: disney-comics at student.docs.uu.se' in header.
Gilbert Milburn
WARNING!.. WARNING!..
Message 101 -
1993-11-18 at 21:01:13
Quick, check your respective hard-drives and diskettes!! We have found a
virus in our system here and we don't know fron whence it came! Our system
is *now* CLEAN, but these things have a way of SPREADING WILDLY!!..
We ran a DELETE and CLEAN with MICROSOFT ANTI-VIRUS, so check you computers
for any and all bugs ASAP!!!
Good Luck,
-Gil
Gil Milburn <gilbert at unix.campbellsvil.edu>
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father; prepare to die!"
virus in our system here and we don't know fron whence it came! Our system
is *now* CLEAN, but these things have a way of SPREADING WILDLY!!..
We ran a DELETE and CLEAN with MICROSOFT ANTI-VIRUS, so check you computers
for any and all bugs ASAP!!!
Good Luck,
-Gil
Gil Milburn <gilbert at unix.campbellsvil.edu>
"Hello. My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father; prepare to die!"
Mark Semich
Disney-comics digest #160.
Message 102 -
1993-11-18 at 21:03:39
David Gerstein writes:
> Paraphrase: "I can't understand all the shouting about your
>'hot' artist, Carl Barks. He only has about four or five different
>duck expressions which he reuses again and again... I prefer Vicar."
>To this Bob responded, "Yeah, we ought to get rid of that Barks guy.
>He's been producing clunky stuff for years now. I don't think he has
>a future in comics."
Yeah, I remember reading that letter. Most amusing.
DDA 24:
> Gladstone filled up the issue with a story from Egmont about
>.... about a *talking mailbox*? Aaargh!
Well, the story is *called* "The Talking Mailbox", but it's not
actually *about* a talking mailbox. At one point, Donald ends up
inside a mailbox, and two kids think that it's talking. Still,
it's certainly not one of the greatest tales. (from my extremely
critical and biased point of view. :-) )
> Gladstone seems to be picking real lemons when it comes to
>Danish stories... I can't help but say so.
I whole-heartedly concur - perhaps they just can't recognize quality
when it's in front of them? Judging from their selection of Mickey
stories, I suspect this to be the case.
(Or maybe they order the stories sight-unseen? You'd probably
know more about any possible reasons than I would...)
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY MICKEY !!
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mark a. semich mas at csa.bu.edu
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> Paraphrase: "I can't understand all the shouting about your
>'hot' artist, Carl Barks. He only has about four or five different
>duck expressions which he reuses again and again... I prefer Vicar."
>To this Bob responded, "Yeah, we ought to get rid of that Barks guy.
>He's been producing clunky stuff for years now. I don't think he has
>a future in comics."
Yeah, I remember reading that letter. Most amusing.
DDA 24:
> Gladstone filled up the issue with a story from Egmont about
>.... about a *talking mailbox*? Aaargh!
Well, the story is *called* "The Talking Mailbox", but it's not
actually *about* a talking mailbox. At one point, Donald ends up
inside a mailbox, and two kids think that it's talking. Still,
it's certainly not one of the greatest tales. (from my extremely
critical and biased point of view. :-) )
> Gladstone seems to be picking real lemons when it comes to
>Danish stories... I can't help but say so.
I whole-heartedly concur - perhaps they just can't recognize quality
when it's in front of them? Judging from their selection of Mickey
stories, I suspect this to be the case.
(Or maybe they order the stories sight-unseen? You'd probably
know more about any possible reasons than I would...)
===========================================================================
HAPPY BIRTHDAY MICKEY !!
-- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --
mark a. semich mas at csa.bu.edu
===========================================================================
Bror Hellman
Don's thorough research...
Message 103 -
1993-11-18 at 22:27:00
On Tue, 16 Nov 1993, Mattias Hallin wrote:
> And, yeah - speaking of thorough... Don: I'm curious if this was intentional on
> your part, or if I'm just constructing things out of thin air, but in the South
> African episode, in the molasses-and-feathers sequence, it seems to me that
> $crooge fires his two revolvers a total of 12 times (once to break the molasses
> jar; thrice in the next panel to rip up the feather-bed (I counted the
> muzzle-flames); and eight times into the ground (counting the bullet-holes in
> the ground); and then in the next panel where Flintheart is running away, and
> $crooge is reloading his gun, there is 12 spent cartridges on the ground... Is
> all this intentional? I mean, it makes sense, since the usual revolver chambers
> six rounds, and 2x6=12... If so, then that is what I call attention to detail!
That sounds careless. The standard procedure was.. Ten bullets in two
guns, not twelwe. That's because the chamber right beneath the hammer
is almost always empty to avoid accidents. Even today we are teached to
have an empty chamber in my profession. On the other hand, does $crooge
reload right *before* the gunfight ( I don't remember ) then he would fill
them up.
koll. Bror Hellman
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... Does The Little Mermaid wear an algebra?
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Internet: hellman at proxxi.uf.se, DuckNet: hellman at 313:100/13.0
> And, yeah - speaking of thorough... Don: I'm curious if this was intentional on
> your part, or if I'm just constructing things out of thin air, but in the South
> African episode, in the molasses-and-feathers sequence, it seems to me that
> $crooge fires his two revolvers a total of 12 times (once to break the molasses
> jar; thrice in the next panel to rip up the feather-bed (I counted the
> muzzle-flames); and eight times into the ground (counting the bullet-holes in
> the ground); and then in the next panel where Flintheart is running away, and
> $crooge is reloading his gun, there is 12 spent cartridges on the ground... Is
> all this intentional? I mean, it makes sense, since the usual revolver chambers
> six rounds, and 2x6=12... If so, then that is what I call attention to detail!
That sounds careless. The standard procedure was.. Ten bullets in two
guns, not twelwe. That's because the chamber right beneath the hammer
is almost always empty to avoid accidents. Even today we are teached to
have an empty chamber in my profession. On the other hand, does $crooge
reload right *before* the gunfight ( I don't remember ) then he would fill
them up.
koll. Bror Hellman
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... Does The Little Mermaid wear an algebra?
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Internet: hellman at proxxi.uf.se, DuckNet: hellman at 313:100/13.0
Chris Lawton
Happy Birthday, Mickey!!
Message 104 -
1993-11-18 at 23:25:00
Hiya!
It was 65 years ago today that the magic debuted. 65 years of fun, 65 years of happiness, 65 years of joy. For all this time we have enjoyed his films, his
laughter, his fun and antics. Who is that has brought all of this into
our lives?
None other than the one and only Mickey Mouse!
Today, November 18, 1993, is the 65 anniversary of Mickey Mouse. Mickey is
more than just a cartoon character. The well known mouse is a national icon.
Considered to be more recognizable around the world than every past and current
world leader, Mickey is truely an American tradition.
Mickey's first nation wide appearance, on November 18, 1928, was in the cartoon
short "Steamboat Willie". Steamboat Willie is the first animated film to
make use of fully syncronized sound. Steamboat Willie has Mickey playing
the part of pilot of a steamboat, captianed by Pete, Mickey's long time rival.
Throughout the 7 and 1/2 minutes of the short, Mickey gets into quite a bit
of mischief trying to help his dear friend Minnie. What a great beginning!
Mickey's career has been long and enjoyable. My thanks to Mickey for
everything he represents and stands for. "If only everybody could be a little
bit more like Mickey!"
Chris Mickey's #1 Fan!! :)
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It was 65 years ago today that the magic debuted. 65 years of fun, 65 years of happiness, 65 years of joy. For all this time we have enjoyed his films, his
laughter, his fun and antics. Who is that has brought all of this into
our lives?
None other than the one and only Mickey Mouse!
Today, November 18, 1993, is the 65 anniversary of Mickey Mouse. Mickey is
more than just a cartoon character. The well known mouse is a national icon.
Considered to be more recognizable around the world than every past and current
world leader, Mickey is truely an American tradition.
Mickey's first nation wide appearance, on November 18, 1928, was in the cartoon
short "Steamboat Willie". Steamboat Willie is the first animated film to
make use of fully syncronized sound. Steamboat Willie has Mickey playing
the part of pilot of a steamboat, captianed by Pete, Mickey's long time rival.
Throughout the 7 and 1/2 minutes of the short, Mickey gets into quite a bit
of mischief trying to help his dear friend Minnie. What a great beginning!
Mickey's career has been long and enjoyable. My thanks to Mickey for
everything he represents and stands for. "If only everybody could be a little
bit more like Mickey!"
Chris Mickey's #1 Fan!! :)
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Mark Semich
A Scrooge Request
Message 105 -
1993-11-19 at 02:32:23
I don't intend to annoy anyone, so I tender my apologies for my humble
request to those who are discussing Don Rosa's 12 part "Life and Times
of Scrooge McDuck" epic:
The story isn't going to see print here in the U.S.A until January,
1994, so I ask that, if it isn't too much trouble, those who are
discussing minutiae of its various chapters please mention in the
subject line of their article that they are doing so. This would
allow those of us (like myself :-) ) who want to be able to read Don's
magnum opus with an open mind (and not know in advance what is going
to happen in it) the opportunity of doing so by not reading the
aforementioned spoiler-warning labeled articles.
Many thanks to all concerned, and again, I don't mean any criticisms
at all, I'm merely attempting to preserve my future enjoyment of Don's
chronicle and allow myself the chance to form my own opinions about
it.
===========================================================================
"I am Scrooge McDuck of the clan McDuck. There can be only one!"
-- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --
mark a. semich mas at csa.bu.edu
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request to those who are discussing Don Rosa's 12 part "Life and Times
of Scrooge McDuck" epic:
The story isn't going to see print here in the U.S.A until January,
1994, so I ask that, if it isn't too much trouble, those who are
discussing minutiae of its various chapters please mention in the
subject line of their article that they are doing so. This would
allow those of us (like myself :-) ) who want to be able to read Don's
magnum opus with an open mind (and not know in advance what is going
to happen in it) the opportunity of doing so by not reading the
aforementioned spoiler-warning labeled articles.
Many thanks to all concerned, and again, I don't mean any criticisms
at all, I'm merely attempting to preserve my future enjoyment of Don's
chronicle and allow myself the chance to form my own opinions about
it.
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"I am Scrooge McDuck of the clan McDuck. There can be only one!"
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mark a. semich mas at csa.bu.edu
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