Dear Folks,
There has been talk of Emil Eagle in these ranks lately.
People have talked as if he has not appeared for quite a while.
But... but... Emil was the villain in US 282's Gyro story, not
seven months ago! A halfway decent story, although Emil was not
portrayed as being threatening -- just a Glomgold-like antagonist for
Gyro, with a bit of Gladstone Gander thrown in.
Emil has mixed with nearly everyone. His first appearance,
though, was with Gyro somewhere around US 55 (it's in our "us" index,
I can't recall it just now) in a story "The Evil Inventor." In the
early 1970s he appeared as the villain in a lot of mediocre Mickey
stories; he has matched against Super Goof; and as noted, he has
been a villain of Duck and Gyro stories made by Egmont.
His last appearance prior to US 282 in this country was in one
of Disney Comics' MICKEY MOUSE ADVENTURES issues (#14). That story,
the most Marvelesque of any Disney Comics MM, made reference back to
some 1970s Murry story, but not to Gyro in any way (although Gyro WAS
in some of Paul Murry's Mickey stories... those of you who read USA 22
know how Murry draws Gyro.)
Actually, I once saw a super Daniel Branca Gyro story with
Emil as the villain -- about 1989. I noted that this was unusual,
because I usually find Egmont's Gyro stories very inadequate...
although the recent "Hot Seat" story in US 284 was quite funny as
well. Let me modify that statement -- I basically dislike Egmont's
Gyro _solo_ stories.
Anyway, I think that Emil can be a good character in the
Glomgold-for-Gyro type of role, but his finest hour has yet to come.
What's remarkable is that he's lasted this long...
Yours,
David Gerstein
<David.A.Gerstein at Williams.edu>
[BTW Someone asked about Moby Duck... This character came out
of the Wonderful World of Disney about the same time as Ludwig Von
Drake -- and he had his own title for many years, when it was LUDWIG
who really deserved to have one! I for one am very glad we have not
seen Moby since 1984...]
Author
Topic: 199403
(153 messages)
David A Gerstein
Emil Eagle
Message 1 -
1994-03-01 at 01:13:29
David A Gerstein
Various things
Message 2 -
1994-03-01 at 02:46:49
Dear Folks,
I have a variety of things to comment on today. Starting
with:
Giuseppe Perego
===============
Harry said: "Yourch! Of all the bad Disney comic artists
I have ever had the questionable pleasure to read, Giuseppe Perego is
the worst by far! "Crude", as Fabio later wrote, is a tremendous
understatement. He draws all the ducks with extremely short beaks,
and for some reason the beak is always wide open.... All in all,
it's a shame that all you Americans will certainly never get to see
anything by this man. I just love to hate him." ;-)
Yeah... isn't he just *awful?* I'm sure everyone on this list
can draw the Ducks better than Perego! (Yes, you, Don, no matter what
you might say ;-)
I have a few other artists who I don't like -- Millet, Stan
Walsh, some of Jaime Diaz' assistants, Kay Wright -- and a few who
I am more or less neutral to, but don't mind not seeing reprinted,
such as Jack Bradbury and Tony Strobl. I'll take Vicar or Branca (and
Branca gets a lotta flak here he doesn't deserve... it's the
scriptwriters' faults!) any day.
Chris Lawton
============
Chris, you can leave your .sig on your letters. We can both
be Mickey's #1 fan... YOU take the post-1940s Mouse, I'll take the
earlier one ;-) Honest, I didn't mean to sound angry. When I said
"This means war" I was trying to sound like Bugs Bunny, since you were
saying that Roger Rabbit DIDN'T talk like that!
Good night, folks.
David Gerstein
Floyd Gottfredson's #1 Fan! :-) ;-)
<David.A.Gerstein at Williams.edu>
I have a variety of things to comment on today. Starting
with:
Giuseppe Perego
===============
Harry said: "Yourch! Of all the bad Disney comic artists
I have ever had the questionable pleasure to read, Giuseppe Perego is
the worst by far! "Crude", as Fabio later wrote, is a tremendous
understatement. He draws all the ducks with extremely short beaks,
and for some reason the beak is always wide open.... All in all,
it's a shame that all you Americans will certainly never get to see
anything by this man. I just love to hate him." ;-)
Yeah... isn't he just *awful?* I'm sure everyone on this list
can draw the Ducks better than Perego! (Yes, you, Don, no matter what
you might say ;-)
I have a few other artists who I don't like -- Millet, Stan
Walsh, some of Jaime Diaz' assistants, Kay Wright -- and a few who
I am more or less neutral to, but don't mind not seeing reprinted,
such as Jack Bradbury and Tony Strobl. I'll take Vicar or Branca (and
Branca gets a lotta flak here he doesn't deserve... it's the
scriptwriters' faults!) any day.
Chris Lawton
============
Chris, you can leave your .sig on your letters. We can both
be Mickey's #1 fan... YOU take the post-1940s Mouse, I'll take the
earlier one ;-) Honest, I didn't mean to sound angry. When I said
"This means war" I was trying to sound like Bugs Bunny, since you were
saying that Roger Rabbit DIDN'T talk like that!
Good night, folks.
David Gerstein
Floyd Gottfredson's #1 Fan! :-) ;-)
<David.A.Gerstein at Williams.edu>
Fredrik Ekman
Long Disney stories
Message 3 -
1994-03-01 at 04:01:51
Hi again! (I'm awfully active today considering how little time I
always claim to have, ain't I?)
A couple of weeks ago someone (I think it was David, constantly in
search for new comics to dialogue, eh, David?) asked for opinions
on long "foreign" Disney stories. When I read the mail, I tried to
remember all the long Egmont stories I have read, and found that,
save for Don's and a handful of Marco Rota's stories, there ARE
none. I formulated a theory that this is becuase making a good long
story requires a good script (while you may have luck once in a
while and manage a short slapstick-like story with some good puns)
and that Egmont's writers simply weren't up to that.
But then, about a week ago when I was out shopping, my eyes fell on
a brand new comic book. Standard Italian digest format, 100 pages,
cover featuring Mickey and Minnie being attacked by horrible
zombies and the title "Musses mysterier" (Mickey's Mysteries).
Acting on impulse (something I rarely do) I picked this up and,
later at home, read it. To my utter surprise, it was very good!
There are no codes for the stories, but format and style both
indicate Italian origin. The two stories it contains seem to feature
Mickey in yet another of these universes that are perfectly
consistent within themselves, but not necessarily so with other
Disney comics (like DuckTales). Mickey is a detective with his own
agency. Minnie hosts a popular TV show.
The first story is the one with the zombies. The script is good, but
nothing special. The art on the other hand is brilliant! I don't
think I've ever seen a Disney comic with such a spooky feeling as
this one. The villain is Phantom Blot, and even though I have not
read Gottfredsons original PB stories, I dare say that he has never
been so scary as here. The artist makes him look like a very
successful cross between The Shadow and Spiderman's black costume.
The second story is only special because it features a standard
puzzle detective story, something I have never seen in a Disney
comic. Unfortunately, it's nowhere near as good as the first story,
even though it fares quite well compared to the standard Egmont
story. All in all, for the rather low price of SEK 14, I recommend
this to anyone who happens to have access to it, if only for the
unusual art of the first story. And as you may know, I'm not the one
to easily get excited over good art.
To the point, I guess: This story made me remember that there are in
fact quite a few good Italian long stories. Perhaps my favourite
(that has been mentioned as a favourite by both Per and Harry
previously) is "The Flying Scotsman". Another good (certainly
Scarpa) story is one where Mickey gets to meet intelligent penguins
from the North Pole. There are others as well, but coming to think
of it, they are probably by Scarpa almost all of them...
/F
PS. David wrote:
>Harry said: "Yourch! Of all the bad Disney comic artists..."
Nonono! Harry has a good Dutch upbringing and would never say a thing
like "yourch". It was me who wrote that. The entire paragraph, even.
DS.
always claim to have, ain't I?)
A couple of weeks ago someone (I think it was David, constantly in
search for new comics to dialogue, eh, David?) asked for opinions
on long "foreign" Disney stories. When I read the mail, I tried to
remember all the long Egmont stories I have read, and found that,
save for Don's and a handful of Marco Rota's stories, there ARE
none. I formulated a theory that this is becuase making a good long
story requires a good script (while you may have luck once in a
while and manage a short slapstick-like story with some good puns)
and that Egmont's writers simply weren't up to that.
But then, about a week ago when I was out shopping, my eyes fell on
a brand new comic book. Standard Italian digest format, 100 pages,
cover featuring Mickey and Minnie being attacked by horrible
zombies and the title "Musses mysterier" (Mickey's Mysteries).
Acting on impulse (something I rarely do) I picked this up and,
later at home, read it. To my utter surprise, it was very good!
There are no codes for the stories, but format and style both
indicate Italian origin. The two stories it contains seem to feature
Mickey in yet another of these universes that are perfectly
consistent within themselves, but not necessarily so with other
Disney comics (like DuckTales). Mickey is a detective with his own
agency. Minnie hosts a popular TV show.
The first story is the one with the zombies. The script is good, but
nothing special. The art on the other hand is brilliant! I don't
think I've ever seen a Disney comic with such a spooky feeling as
this one. The villain is Phantom Blot, and even though I have not
read Gottfredsons original PB stories, I dare say that he has never
been so scary as here. The artist makes him look like a very
successful cross between The Shadow and Spiderman's black costume.
The second story is only special because it features a standard
puzzle detective story, something I have never seen in a Disney
comic. Unfortunately, it's nowhere near as good as the first story,
even though it fares quite well compared to the standard Egmont
story. All in all, for the rather low price of SEK 14, I recommend
this to anyone who happens to have access to it, if only for the
unusual art of the first story. And as you may know, I'm not the one
to easily get excited over good art.
To the point, I guess: This story made me remember that there are in
fact quite a few good Italian long stories. Perhaps my favourite
(that has been mentioned as a favourite by both Per and Harry
previously) is "The Flying Scotsman". Another good (certainly
Scarpa) story is one where Mickey gets to meet intelligent penguins
from the North Pole. There are others as well, but coming to think
of it, they are probably by Scarpa almost all of them...
/F
PS. David wrote:
>Harry said: "Yourch! Of all the bad Disney comic artists..."
Nonono! Harry has a good Dutch upbringing and would never say a thing
like "yourch". It was me who wrote that. The entire paragraph, even.
DS.
Don Rosa
Disney-comics digest #255.
Message 4 -
1994-03-01 at 06:59:41
CHRIS LAWTON:
(and Darin Reid):
Whoaa!!! Easy! I apologize if something in my wording made it
sound like I was trying to "pick on" you (Chris)!!! I would never
suggest that a "Disney comic fan" had to fit a certain mold. I would
never suggest that fans of the Italian Disneys are not "Disney comics
fans" simply because they are so different from the Dell style. I would
never suggest the same about fans of other Disney comics that seem
off-the-mark of what I grew up on. Fergoodnesssake, I constantly marvel
at why people like MY stories as they look like nothing, artwise, that's
ever been accepted as Disney style comics!
What I was trying to express to Chris is my surprise that the
first he ever knew of Disney comics, and still he says most of what he
knows of Disney comics, were the Roger Rabbit and Mickey Mouse stories
from Disney-Disney. It's near unanimous around the planet that those
Disney-Disneys had far more in common with Marvels than Disneys, and
that's why Disney fans didn't take to them -- and it was the Roger
Rabbits and the Wolfman Mice that were the ones furthest off the mark.
I'm not trying to be rude in saying that I find it odd that one would
be attracted to Disney by those particular tales. I still feel quite
certain that if someone had a strong liking for Disney-Disney's Mickey,
and that (as Chris says) he's never read any other comics, he will find
that Marvel comics or DC's CAPTAIN CARROT and such will turn out to be
far more similar to what he likes than are any Disney comic. And if he
has a love of Roger Rabbit, it would be DC's new Warner Brothers comics
and old MGM cartoons he should be tracking down -- he may waste a lot
of time trying to find Disney comics that have the same spirit as Roger
Rabbit when he should be looking elsewhere. As I said, and as I am sure
is an absolute fact, Roger Rabbit is a tribute to all that is NOT
Disney... it's an imitation of Tex Avery style humor. I have a "vault"
filled with 35,000 other comics than my Disney issues -- it is
completely acceptable if someone likes comics other than Disneys! I do!
I'm not trying to be rude to someone who is claiming to have little
knowledge of comics when I suggest to them that I think they have been
"lead astray" possibly in what they are going to spend their time on
when the evidence to my eyes suggests there are other types of comics
that should be far closer to their liking.
I hope people aren't placing me in a position that every word I
say to anyone on here must be glowingly positive, and that anytime I
disagree with someone I am "being rude" to them. I have opinions, too,
and I plan on expressing them to one and all. We're all equal here, and
I'm sure as heck no more or less equal than anyone else. I'll aplogize
if I ever seem to be picking on someone -- but I won't apologize for
the opinions.
(and Darin Reid):
Whoaa!!! Easy! I apologize if something in my wording made it
sound like I was trying to "pick on" you (Chris)!!! I would never
suggest that a "Disney comic fan" had to fit a certain mold. I would
never suggest that fans of the Italian Disneys are not "Disney comics
fans" simply because they are so different from the Dell style. I would
never suggest the same about fans of other Disney comics that seem
off-the-mark of what I grew up on. Fergoodnesssake, I constantly marvel
at why people like MY stories as they look like nothing, artwise, that's
ever been accepted as Disney style comics!
What I was trying to express to Chris is my surprise that the
first he ever knew of Disney comics, and still he says most of what he
knows of Disney comics, were the Roger Rabbit and Mickey Mouse stories
from Disney-Disney. It's near unanimous around the planet that those
Disney-Disneys had far more in common with Marvels than Disneys, and
that's why Disney fans didn't take to them -- and it was the Roger
Rabbits and the Wolfman Mice that were the ones furthest off the mark.
I'm not trying to be rude in saying that I find it odd that one would
be attracted to Disney by those particular tales. I still feel quite
certain that if someone had a strong liking for Disney-Disney's Mickey,
and that (as Chris says) he's never read any other comics, he will find
that Marvel comics or DC's CAPTAIN CARROT and such will turn out to be
far more similar to what he likes than are any Disney comic. And if he
has a love of Roger Rabbit, it would be DC's new Warner Brothers comics
and old MGM cartoons he should be tracking down -- he may waste a lot
of time trying to find Disney comics that have the same spirit as Roger
Rabbit when he should be looking elsewhere. As I said, and as I am sure
is an absolute fact, Roger Rabbit is a tribute to all that is NOT
Disney... it's an imitation of Tex Avery style humor. I have a "vault"
filled with 35,000 other comics than my Disney issues -- it is
completely acceptable if someone likes comics other than Disneys! I do!
I'm not trying to be rude to someone who is claiming to have little
knowledge of comics when I suggest to them that I think they have been
"lead astray" possibly in what they are going to spend their time on
when the evidence to my eyes suggests there are other types of comics
that should be far closer to their liking.
I hope people aren't placing me in a position that every word I
say to anyone on here must be glowingly positive, and that anytime I
disagree with someone I am "being rude" to them. I have opinions, too,
and I plan on expressing them to one and all. We're all equal here, and
I'm sure as heck no more or less equal than anyone else. I'll aplogize
if I ever seem to be picking on someone -- but I won't apologize for
the opinions.
Wilmer Rivers
Who Inspired Roger Rabbit?
Message 5 -
1994-03-01 at 08:54:29
Don Rosa writes:
> As I said, and as I am sure
> is an absolute fact, Roger Rabbit is a tribute to all that is NOT
> Disney... it's an imitation of Tex Avery style humor.
Although Roger Rabbit does have a lot of Tex Avery style humor (bulging
eyeballs, etc.), I think it owes perhaps more to Tom and Jerry. Unfor-
tunately, I **don't** have a comics vault, so I no longer have any of
the T&J comic books that I used to read in the late 1950's, and I can't
make a direct comparison with Roger Rabbit except through my failing
memory. But what I recall of the "I'll bash you and then you'll bash
me" humor in T&J (now exaggerated to the max in Itchy and Scratchy, who
now have their own comic book, for heaven's sake) seems similar to the
Maroon cartoons style of humor we saw in the Roger Rabbit books (which,
like everyone else, I stopped buying after the first few).
Wilmer Rivers
> As I said, and as I am sure
> is an absolute fact, Roger Rabbit is a tribute to all that is NOT
> Disney... it's an imitation of Tex Avery style humor.
Although Roger Rabbit does have a lot of Tex Avery style humor (bulging
eyeballs, etc.), I think it owes perhaps more to Tom and Jerry. Unfor-
tunately, I **don't** have a comics vault, so I no longer have any of
the T&J comic books that I used to read in the late 1950's, and I can't
make a direct comparison with Roger Rabbit except through my failing
memory. But what I recall of the "I'll bash you and then you'll bash
me" humor in T&J (now exaggerated to the max in Itchy and Scratchy, who
now have their own comic book, for heaven's sake) seems similar to the
Maroon cartoons style of humor we saw in the Roger Rabbit books (which,
like everyone else, I stopped buying after the first few).
Wilmer Rivers
Mattias Hallin
Requested Reading? Hmm...???
Message 6 -
1994-03-01 at 17:06:39
CHRIS:
I my 'umble hopinion, there's no such thing as required reading outside
the educational systems -- myself e.g., I almost NEVER read recent Nobel Prize
winners (lit.winners, I mean -- well, nor do I read the sci.winners, but...)
for the reason I positively HATE being told what to read, or to read sumpin'
jes' because it suddenly became elevated to "Nobel Prize Lit.". Of course I'm
also aware of the fact that I'm stubbornly and stupidly denying myself reading
I would quite likely enjoy -- but that's the prize us rugged freedomloving
individual individualists has to pay... tsk, tsk, tsk!
Anyway, what I'm tryin' t'tell ya: there ain't no perticlar curriculum of Duck
and/or Disney comics; and a persons personal enjoyment of any certain comic is
reason enough to read it! With which sentiment I'm sure we all agree.
What there IS, however, is (to my mind) RECOMMENDABLE reading -- which can be
CLASSIC comics, ODD comics, GOOD comics, BAD (!!!) comics or just about ANY
comics, depending on who does the recommendin' and who recieves it.
So, when it comes to ME recommendin' YOU Disney stuff to check out, I will of
course start by saying: "ANYTHING by Carl Barks -- period". This is rather
self-evident to any ardent Barks-fan, but no less true because of this; and a
good source for Barks is: a) Gladstone-Disneys (previous and present) and
Disney-Disneys, where there are a fair deal of reprints to be found with no or
little trouble; and b) Gladstone's Carl Barks Library in Color-albums (priced
between $8 and $10 -- not too steep, I think myself). Unless you get as
seriously hooked as some of us, there's no particular reason why you should
start any systematic collection, but what if you try'n pick up a few Barks
stories and let us know what you thought about 'em...?
DON:
Go on, fer gosh sakes, and be as opinionated and frank as you damn well
want to! Of course you shouldn't be either bland nor falsely modest or
insincere on the list, just to avoid disagreement, or possibly steppin' on
someone's toes; BUT I also think there is a minor lesson for us ALL in this
discussion, namely to be a tad more CAREFUL if and when we vent negative
critique, or disagree with one another... for the simple reason that things
don't always read the same as they write -- the reader can't hear the intended
mode of speech or other inflections that the writer might have in mind when
writing, and things do have a tendency at times, I think, to come out a little
more harsh then they were ever intended.
These remarks are NOT intended as any analysis of your particular posting, Don,
but as general observations.
I don't see any particular reason to continue this discussion, unless anyone
wants too; but that was my two cents worth, anyway.
All my best, etc. and so on!
Hmm...?
Mattias
I my 'umble hopinion, there's no such thing as required reading outside
the educational systems -- myself e.g., I almost NEVER read recent Nobel Prize
winners (lit.winners, I mean -- well, nor do I read the sci.winners, but...)
for the reason I positively HATE being told what to read, or to read sumpin'
jes' because it suddenly became elevated to "Nobel Prize Lit.". Of course I'm
also aware of the fact that I'm stubbornly and stupidly denying myself reading
I would quite likely enjoy -- but that's the prize us rugged freedomloving
individual individualists has to pay... tsk, tsk, tsk!
Anyway, what I'm tryin' t'tell ya: there ain't no perticlar curriculum of Duck
and/or Disney comics; and a persons personal enjoyment of any certain comic is
reason enough to read it! With which sentiment I'm sure we all agree.
What there IS, however, is (to my mind) RECOMMENDABLE reading -- which can be
CLASSIC comics, ODD comics, GOOD comics, BAD (!!!) comics or just about ANY
comics, depending on who does the recommendin' and who recieves it.
So, when it comes to ME recommendin' YOU Disney stuff to check out, I will of
course start by saying: "ANYTHING by Carl Barks -- period". This is rather
self-evident to any ardent Barks-fan, but no less true because of this; and a
good source for Barks is: a) Gladstone-Disneys (previous and present) and
Disney-Disneys, where there are a fair deal of reprints to be found with no or
little trouble; and b) Gladstone's Carl Barks Library in Color-albums (priced
between $8 and $10 -- not too steep, I think myself). Unless you get as
seriously hooked as some of us, there's no particular reason why you should
start any systematic collection, but what if you try'n pick up a few Barks
stories and let us know what you thought about 'em...?
DON:
Go on, fer gosh sakes, and be as opinionated and frank as you damn well
want to! Of course you shouldn't be either bland nor falsely modest or
insincere on the list, just to avoid disagreement, or possibly steppin' on
someone's toes; BUT I also think there is a minor lesson for us ALL in this
discussion, namely to be a tad more CAREFUL if and when we vent negative
critique, or disagree with one another... for the simple reason that things
don't always read the same as they write -- the reader can't hear the intended
mode of speech or other inflections that the writer might have in mind when
writing, and things do have a tendency at times, I think, to come out a little
more harsh then they were ever intended.
These remarks are NOT intended as any analysis of your particular posting, Don,
but as general observations.
I don't see any particular reason to continue this discussion, unless anyone
wants too; but that was my two cents worth, anyway.
All my best, etc. and so on!
Hmm...?
Mattias
Mattias Hallin
Addendum; mainly for Don
Message 7 -
1994-03-01 at 17:13:19
DON:
It just dawned on me (when I got my previous posting back) that I told you
to go ahead and be "as opinionated" as you care too; and that the word
"opinionated" doesn't necessarily have a very nice ring in English. I DID and
DO mean to say: "let us have your OPINIONS as much as you want to". I'm not
THAT sure of my English to know whether there really is a difference -- but
hey: better safe than sorry!
Mattias
It just dawned on me (when I got my previous posting back) that I told you
to go ahead and be "as opinionated" as you care too; and that the word
"opinionated" doesn't necessarily have a very nice ring in English. I DID and
DO mean to say: "let us have your OPINIONS as much as you want to". I'm not
THAT sure of my English to know whether there really is a difference -- but
hey: better safe than sorry!
Mattias
Don Rosa
Disney-comics digest #256.
Message 8 -
1994-03-02 at 06:43:49
WILMER:
TOM & JERRY was Hanna and Barbera's slapstick-violent answer to
Tx Avery's slapstickly violent product which was also usually done for
MGM (though also for WB or Lantz). Perhaps any T&J that you see in ROGER
RABBIT was because T&J was an imitation of Tex Avery as well. But as the
best indication of what ROGER RABBIT is meant as a tribute to, one needs
only look at the film's on-screen dedication: "dedicated to TEX AVERY".
Sometimes we miss that stuff by not reading all those credits. But
whatever the case, it was certainly not a tribute to anything the name
Walt Disney had ever stood for -- quite the opposite. That's why, as
much as I enjoyed ROGER RABBIT, I am disturbed and irritated when I see
the guy in the Roger Rabbit costume wandering around the Magic Kingdom
when I'm in DisneyWorld; I wanna grab his lil' butt and kick him over
into the MGM Studio where he belongs.
TOM & JERRY was Hanna and Barbera's slapstick-violent answer to
Tx Avery's slapstickly violent product which was also usually done for
MGM (though also for WB or Lantz). Perhaps any T&J that you see in ROGER
RABBIT was because T&J was an imitation of Tex Avery as well. But as the
best indication of what ROGER RABBIT is meant as a tribute to, one needs
only look at the film's on-screen dedication: "dedicated to TEX AVERY".
Sometimes we miss that stuff by not reading all those credits. But
whatever the case, it was certainly not a tribute to anything the name
Walt Disney had ever stood for -- quite the opposite. That's why, as
much as I enjoyed ROGER RABBIT, I am disturbed and irritated when I see
the guy in the Roger Rabbit costume wandering around the Magic Kingdom
when I'm in DisneyWorld; I wanna grab his lil' butt and kick him over
into the MGM Studio where he belongs.
Gary Leach
Disney-comics digest #255.
Message 9 -
1994-03-02 at 10:04:42
Took a look at some direct market distributor order figures today for the
entire comics industry and...well, wot a mess! The speculators have finished
their pillagin' and rapin' and moved on (not a few of them pillaged and raped
in turn, just to be fair), leaving Gladstone with...a nearly doubled market
share! That is, we've gone from .24% to .56% of the direct market (rough
approximate). Of course, this actually means our orders didn't go down as much
as many other publishers', so we look better statistically. At this stage, we
take what we can get.
CHRIS CLAWTON:
Roger Rabbit is a joint property of Disney and Spielberg's Amblin shop. Roger
cannot be used by either party without clearance and approval from both. This,
in effect, makes Roger-in the technical sense-only a half Disney character.
But you know what? If you like Roger, and Roger has proven instrumental in
getting you better acquainted with Disney comics, then more power to both of
you! It's the guys who read something like Roger and figure it sums up the
whole of the Disney comics experience that bring guys like Don and David (and
myself) to the Edge of Despair.
ON ANOTHER MATTER:
Michael T. and Janet Gilbert write stories for Egmont, but don't do any actual
artwork. From what I've gathered, such labors are reserved for Mr. Monster and
Kelly and that sort of thing...
ANNOUNCEMENT:
A new artist is about to debut with a full-length adventure coming up soon in
Donald Duck Adventures. The name is Pat Block, and the tale is in
collaboration with a writer/letterer whose name escapes me at the moment (I
don't have as much to do with the Disney's these days, so details are slipping
in my mind more and more after hours). While he's no Don Rosa or Bill Van
Horn, he's got potential...and Disney approved of the art and the story.
In the word's of Gladstone's founder, Helmut Werb..."Keep head cool!"
entire comics industry and...well, wot a mess! The speculators have finished
their pillagin' and rapin' and moved on (not a few of them pillaged and raped
in turn, just to be fair), leaving Gladstone with...a nearly doubled market
share! That is, we've gone from .24% to .56% of the direct market (rough
approximate). Of course, this actually means our orders didn't go down as much
as many other publishers', so we look better statistically. At this stage, we
take what we can get.
CHRIS CLAWTON:
Roger Rabbit is a joint property of Disney and Spielberg's Amblin shop. Roger
cannot be used by either party without clearance and approval from both. This,
in effect, makes Roger-in the technical sense-only a half Disney character.
But you know what? If you like Roger, and Roger has proven instrumental in
getting you better acquainted with Disney comics, then more power to both of
you! It's the guys who read something like Roger and figure it sums up the
whole of the Disney comics experience that bring guys like Don and David (and
myself) to the Edge of Despair.
ON ANOTHER MATTER:
Michael T. and Janet Gilbert write stories for Egmont, but don't do any actual
artwork. From what I've gathered, such labors are reserved for Mr. Monster and
Kelly and that sort of thing...
ANNOUNCEMENT:
A new artist is about to debut with a full-length adventure coming up soon in
Donald Duck Adventures. The name is Pat Block, and the tale is in
collaboration with a writer/letterer whose name escapes me at the moment (I
don't have as much to do with the Disney's these days, so details are slipping
in my mind more and more after hours). While he's no Don Rosa or Bill Van
Horn, he's got potential...and Disney approved of the art and the story.
In the word's of Gladstone's founder, Helmut Werb..."Keep head cool!"
Mattias Hallin
LIST of INTRODUC(K)TIONS (2nd ed.)
Message 10 -
1994-03-02 at 10:48:09
*******************************************************************
HELLO THERE, EVERY ONE ON THE "DISNEY-COMICS" LIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Here is the introduc(k)tion list again, and this is how it works: Following
this short statement by Your Oh-So-Humble Editor are all introduc(k)tions that
has been added since the previous edition, in their turn followed by all
biographies that have already appeared at least once. This means that those who
have already recieved at least one posting of this list need only read the
first part, but also that any newcomer will get the whole caboodle!
SO -- if YOU want to be on this list of the list -- send an introduc(k)tory
note about yourself to the undersigned at <Mattias.Hallin at Jurenh.lu.se>!
If YOU want to change your auto-biography -- just send me a new one, and say
so!!
AND -- if YOU wanna get OFF this list of the list, jes' say so, too!!!
All my Ducky Best!!!
Mattias
*******************************************************************
NEW INTRODUC(K)TIONS! NEW INTRODUC(K)TIONS! NEW INTRODUC(K)TIONS!!!
*******************************************************************
O.k., I decided to give an introduction of myself,
because this mailinglist seems to be a nice one.
My name is Nikolaus Andresen, I was born Oct 7th 1970
in Braunschweig, Germany and at the moment I'm here
in Manchester/ UK as an ERASMUS-student, but
only until the end of March '94.
After that I'll go back to Braunschweig
althought I might live somewhere else from
Oktober 1994 on, because I'm planning to change
the University.
So now you know I'm studying, well it's Computer Science,
but I'm also interested in other things beside the
Computer, e.g. making music (guitar, piano), juggling
(sometimes even unicycling! - have you tried it? it's
great fun!) and of course COMICS!
Although I'm not a regular buyer of Disney comics
anymore (because I own the complete CBL edition),
I'm still interested in what's going on in
this area, especially I'm desperately waiting
for a Gottfredson edition to be published and
also a cheap edition of the Barks-oil-paintings!!!
Besides Barks and Gottfredson, I don't know many other
Disney artists; Al Taliaferro is another of my favourites,
I don't know much from Don Rosa, but the drawings are
definitely nice.
Other comics I like very much are 'Gaston' and 'Spirou
et Fantasio' by the belgish author Franquin, and
occasionally I read the german cartoon 'Das kleine Arschloch'
by Walter Moers (very nasty humour but funny!).
I think this might be enough for a short introduction,
thank you for your time,
Nikolaus.
*******************************************************************
My name is Jon Cato Lorentzen. I was born in 1972, and i figure this makes me
one of the youngest guys on this list. I am currently studying physics at the
University of Oslo, and plan to stay here for some years.
My interest in Duck comics began in 1977 when my dad began to buy the Donald
Duck comics to me every week. I soon became an avid collector and my dad
helped me sort all the comics and put them in Donald Duck albums. In 1978
i got my first introduction to Carl Barks when "Jeg, Donald Duck" was
released. This was an oversized book with classic Barks adventure stories.
I also learned about Floyd Gottfredson when Mickey Mouse stories (many banned
ones) were released in the same format. Since then I've been an avid collector
of both Duck & Mouse stories.
Currently I am buying all the Barks Library in Colour albums, and I get a
real kick once in a while when I find a Barks story that I haven't read. I
am also trying to collect all the Van Horn and Rosa stories released through
Gladstone and in Norway.
My other interests are varied. I often go to the movies, and I like to read
fiction. Mainly in the fantasy and horror genre. I also play role-playing
games with some friends once in a while. The only sporting activity you'll
ever catch me performing is soccer.
Jon C. Lorentzen
*******************************************************************
"Uh-hyuck! Uh-hyuh-hyuh-hyuck!"
"Aw, fer gosh sakes! Shut up, Goofy!" >SWAT<
I'm David Gerstein, single, male, 20, and Flippist -- er,
Jewish. I've been a fan of the Ducks ever since 1979, when I bought a
trio of Whitman comics that included "Back to the Klondike" and "The
Not-So-Ancient Mariner". Two years later, I spent weeks saving up all
of $20 and purchased the first book I had ever bought on my own, the
Abbeville Press MICKEY MOUSE collection by Floyd Gottfredson.
I was hooked, but it didn't take me long to figure out that
Whitman's Barks stories were poorly-chosen, a lot of their other stuff
was rubbish, and that Abbeville's Gottfredson stories were mutilated.
Then came Gladstone. My liking of the Duck and Mouse clans
increased a hundredfold as I began to revel in the history of their
stories. As the years passed, I became more and more interested in
these tales and their creators, until I had accumulated a large
reference library of the comics, their animated inspirations, and
dusty tomes about both.
In 1988 I submitted my first Duck story to Gladstone, "The
Great Pie Promotion." It was flatly rejected (and no wonder, when I
look at it now!), but after a lot of work, I'm now writing original
Duck and Mouse sagas for Egmont Publishing and doing American scripts
for many of the foreign stories Gladstone's printing. Also, my
Egmont work will probably appear here, but no earlier than 1995.
I am proud to call myself Floyd Gottfredson's greatest fan,
and have revelled in the Mouse Man's superb work for years. Anyone
who dares comment that Mickey is the plaything of mealy-mouthed
infants in my presence is forced to read Gottfredson comics until they
revoke their scathing comment. One day I hope to convince Disney to
allow reprint (hopefully by Gladstone) of the entire Gottfredson MM
adventure continuity 1930-1956, and if and when such a thing is
authorized, I hope to be among its editors.
My least favorite modern Disney creators are generally the
Jaime Diaz Studio, particularly in their interpretation of Mickey
Mouse. My favorite modern creator is Don Rosa, with Daan Jippes a
close second. I also love the work of Romano Scarpa, though I feel
that his finest Mickey tales are behind him now. I think Daniel
Branca is a superb artist, but his work varies with the quality of the
scripts he's given.
My signature quote these days, "I'm the Fuller Brush Man! I'm
givin' g'way free semple!" comes from the Disney cartoon, THE THREE
LITTLE PIGS, during which the Wolf reveals his Jewish heritage. Like
Zeke himself, I too am a (definitely non-Kosher) Jew. I love to find
examples -- like that one -- of Jewish cartoon characters appearing in
Disney product. See any others? Tell me about them! NOW! Or I'll
huff, and I'll puff, and I'll blow your _bayit_ in! Thank you.
Your friend,
David Gerstein
<David.A.Gerstein at Williams.edu>
*******************************************************************
PREVIOUS INTRODUC(K)TIONS BELOW!! PREVIOUS INTRODUC(K)TIONS BELOW!!
*******************************************************************
Well, my name is Mattias Hallin, I'm 29 years old (born in 1965), and work in
the administration of Lund University, Lund, Sweden, at the registrar's office
and in the University archives.
I majored in History, and also did some Archeaology and Anthropology/Ethnology.
I've tried my hand at a Ph.D. thesis in History, but has presently shelved that
project for reasons of gotta-eat.
Furthermore, I'm a part-time proof-reader, student and musician -- the latter
on banjo, guitar and to some extent cornet; I play Classic 1920's
Jazz/Traditional Jazz/Swing -- call it what you will, but don't call it
Dixieland! (The Word "Dixieland" should EITHER be a geographic term, OR denote
the music played by WHITE musicians FROM New Orleans, between c. 1915-1925.)
I'm a Carl Barks fan, ever since I was able to recognize "the good artist" --
and that was years before I knew his name! I'm also a board member of Swedish
Donaldistic association NAFS(k), and with my brother co-editor-in-chief of the
fanzine NAFS(k)uriren.
Also, I do have an adress: Mattias Hallin
Trollebergsvagen 24 B
S-222 29 Lund, SWEDEN
phone +46 46-14 84 43 (home)
+46 46-10 71 37 (work)
"If yer ever down in Texas, look me up!" Any passing donaldist will find me
perenially ready to roll out the red carpet! "Come up and see me some time!
(Hic!) Come up and see me some time (Hic!)..."
*******************************************************************
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 1994 07:01:13 -0500
From: dubach1 at husc.harvard.edu
Hello! My name is Joev Dubach, and I'm a senior at Harvard (in the
easily-drawn snow-covered state of Massachusetts.) I'm from Seattle, which I
naturally prefer to Boston (my hometown can beat your hometown!) I'm working
on graduating with a degree in Math and Computer Science, after which I plan
to get a real job. I found out about this list through the r.a.c. FAQ, being
a regular reader of racm, and, on a lark, decided to subscribe. I haven't
bought a Disney comic since I was four feet tall, which is what drives me to
lurk; I just don't know that much. But the wonderful discussion on this list
is driving me ever closer to trying some current Gladstones, and I'm
particularly intrigued by the discussion of The Life and Times of Scrooge
McDuck. Does anyone have a recommended cheap starting point for Carl Barks'
Ducks? There's so much of it out there, in very different forms and
intersecting contents, that I'm a bit daunted. Anyhow, thanks for the
enlightening discussion!
(That should be enough of an introduction, I think. Bye now!)
Joev
*******************************************************************
Name: Marshall T. Allen, commonly called Mark
Born in Oak Ridge Tennesee, USA in 1954, moved to Maryland in 1957, and
currently live in Elkridge, Maryland, USA (SW of Baltimore).
Gainfully employed as a contract negotiator for the Johns Hopkins University's
Applied Physics Laboratory in Laurel, Maryland, USA.
Interested primarily in the Ducks and the FG Mouse, but collect any Disney
comic I can afford.
*******************************************************************
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 1994 15:28:19 +0100
From: bjorn-are.davidsen at s.televerket.tele.no
Subject: Introduction to Bjorn Are Davidsen
As one of the most eager lurkers on the list (and contributor every second
month), I am glad for this opportunity to introduce myself! This is written
somewhat hurrily, and as a bit more of a listing than it perhaps should have
been.
Name: Bjorn Are Daviden (the "Bjorn" is with a Norwegian "oe").
Working place: Norwegian Telecom, Network Division, Product Developement
(which means mainly network access services like ISDN, Centrex, VPN and so on,
and related to terminal based services like videophone (for some reason
seldom seen in Barks or other Disney series).
I live in Oslo and beside lurking/participating on the list I am married (two
children, 3.5 and 0.7 years). When I have time off from my dear children and
wife I (and my wife just as much) read a LOT (Science Fiction, Chesterton,
Detective Stories, Tolkien, Lewis, Solsjenitsyn, Historical novels, Historical
non fiction - sometimes called History (By the way, Marco Polo did really visit
Constantinople as I pointed out last autumn, but - as I also pointed out - as
the first one I think - several decades after the Fourth Crusade of 1204),
comics (besides Gottfredson, Barks and Rosa everything from Terry and the
Pirates to Sandman), theology, sociology and more. And I listen
(and participate in various fan clubs) to music (Emerson, Lake and Palmer,
Gentle Giant, Beatles, Hendrix and others).
Besides, I write regularly articles to Norwegian magazines/papers on history,
theology, music, comics and other subjects I enjoy.
As you may imagine, there is not much time left to write to the digest...
My particular Donaldistic interest is anything and everything by Barks,
Gottfredson, Taliaferro and Rosa.
Yours
Bjorn Are
*******************************************************************
I have no problem with being including in your introduc(k)tion file,
since I have already posted a couple of things about myself to the
list in the past. I'm a charter member, since Per and I had exchanged
E-mail maybe twice before, based on postings to rec.arts.comics.
One thing I have told the list is my age, since I was worried that I
appeared to be the oldest member. I was born in 1949. I learned that
at least 2 other people on the list are older than I am (by 1 and 5
years), but I suppose I should not reveal who those geezers are, in
case they want to continue to be taken seriously by the young folks
who read their postings. Anyway, I learned to read by following the
words and pictures in WDC&S during the early 1950's, and I've remained
hooked on stories of the Duckburg universe ever since then. The other
item which I posted to the list is that my favorite story may be con-
nected to my profession: I was always especially fascinated by Barks's
"Land Beneath the Ground", and now I am a seismologist! Truthfully,
I cannot say whether there is any connection there, but I can't dismiss
the possibility. I suppose if there is anything more that I should add
to your introduc(k)tion file, it is that I live in Alexandria, Virginia
(just across the Potomac River from Washington, D.C.). However, I
refuse to be held responsible for any actions by the US Government!
Wilmer Rivers
rivers at seismo.css.gov
*******************************************************************
My name if Fredrik Ekman. I am a 23-year-old student from Sweden, and
like all other Swedes of my (and several previous) generation, I have
been reading and enjoying Disney comics for as long as I can remember.
Thus, I'm naturally also a member of the Swedish donaldist organization
NAFS(k).
Currently, I am doing my third year at a college in Ronneby. This
college (located in the in some circles rather well-known Soft Center)
is specialized in computer science educations, and that is also what
I am studying. When this semester is finished, I hope to have the
Swedish equivalence of a bachelor exam.
When it comes to Disney comics, I especially enjoy those by Carl Barks
(of course), Don Rosa and William Van Horn. I also read a lot of other
comics and my favourite creators outside Disney are Alan Moore, Steve
Gerber and Marten Toonder, to mention but a few. I generally prefer a
good story to fancy art.
When I do not study, play with my computer or read comics I may
possibly be found doing one of the following things: Reading books
(you know, the ones with no pictures in them), training Ju-Jutsu or
singing in a choir.
*******************************************************************
Harry Fluks: male, single, born in 1962, Dutch nationality.
Address:
Harry Fluks
Burg. Caan van Necklaan 250
2262 GN Leidschendam
The Netherlands
I have studied econometrics (with lots of computer
science) at the university of Groningen. I now work at the research
department of the Dutch mail and telephone company (PTT).
My family had a subscription to the Dutch DD Weekly from 1966-1972. After
that, I was considered too old for that stuff. In 1977, I started to
collect 2nd-hand comics myself.
The first time I learned about Carl Barks was in the foreword of the Dutch
"Beste Verhalen van Donald Duck" #4, in 1977. One year later, I read the
Dutch "Barks Boek" by Rob Stechweij. It gave a (largely erratic) index on all
Barks stories.
Since then, I tried to make my own index, which became computerised in 1983,
and public (on our ftp site) in 1992/1993.
Only in 1986, when I moved from Groningen to Leidschendam (near The Hague),
I found out that in the cities in this area in Holland, there were some
comic specialty shops that sold American comics, like Gladstone comics.
Nowadays I try to read all my Disney material in sequence: when I'm finished
with the last issue, I start again with the first. Such a cycle can take 2 or
3 years...
I have a subscription (again) to the Dutch Donald Duck, and I only buy
foreign Disney comics (German, USA) if they contain interesting stories.
Since my Barks, Jippes and Gottfredson collections are a good as complete, I
have much fun in trying to get a complete Rosa collection.
I try to collect Disney comic stories, but not at all cost: I have a sort of
maximum price per page. If a comic is considered rare and expensive, I try to
get a reprint. I'm collecting comic STORIES, not comic ISSUES.
In 1992, I helped De Geillustreerde Pers (the Dutch Disney publisher) in
publishing a complete library of Barks stories. They used my (forementioned)
index, which I think is the most complete Barks index in Holland.
Other hobbies include reading, (Dutch) language, geography, and my current
work.
(That's it.)
--Harry.
*******************************************************************
*******************************************************************
HELLO THERE, EVERY ONE ON THE "DISNEY-COMICS" LIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Here is the introduc(k)tion list again, and this is how it works: Following
this short statement by Your Oh-So-Humble Editor are all introduc(k)tions that
has been added since the previous edition, in their turn followed by all
biographies that have already appeared at least once. This means that those who
have already recieved at least one posting of this list need only read the
first part, but also that any newcomer will get the whole caboodle!
SO -- if YOU want to be on this list of the list -- send an introduc(k)tory
note about yourself to the undersigned at <Mattias.Hallin at Jurenh.lu.se>!
If YOU want to change your auto-biography -- just send me a new one, and say
so!!
AND -- if YOU wanna get OFF this list of the list, jes' say so, too!!!
All my Ducky Best!!!
Mattias
*******************************************************************
NEW INTRODUC(K)TIONS! NEW INTRODUC(K)TIONS! NEW INTRODUC(K)TIONS!!!
*******************************************************************
O.k., I decided to give an introduction of myself,
because this mailinglist seems to be a nice one.
My name is Nikolaus Andresen, I was born Oct 7th 1970
in Braunschweig, Germany and at the moment I'm here
in Manchester/ UK as an ERASMUS-student, but
only until the end of March '94.
After that I'll go back to Braunschweig
althought I might live somewhere else from
Oktober 1994 on, because I'm planning to change
the University.
So now you know I'm studying, well it's Computer Science,
but I'm also interested in other things beside the
Computer, e.g. making music (guitar, piano), juggling
(sometimes even unicycling! - have you tried it? it's
great fun!) and of course COMICS!
Although I'm not a regular buyer of Disney comics
anymore (because I own the complete CBL edition),
I'm still interested in what's going on in
this area, especially I'm desperately waiting
for a Gottfredson edition to be published and
also a cheap edition of the Barks-oil-paintings!!!
Besides Barks and Gottfredson, I don't know many other
Disney artists; Al Taliaferro is another of my favourites,
I don't know much from Don Rosa, but the drawings are
definitely nice.
Other comics I like very much are 'Gaston' and 'Spirou
et Fantasio' by the belgish author Franquin, and
occasionally I read the german cartoon 'Das kleine Arschloch'
by Walter Moers (very nasty humour but funny!).
I think this might be enough for a short introduction,
thank you for your time,
Nikolaus.
*******************************************************************
My name is Jon Cato Lorentzen. I was born in 1972, and i figure this makes me
one of the youngest guys on this list. I am currently studying physics at the
University of Oslo, and plan to stay here for some years.
My interest in Duck comics began in 1977 when my dad began to buy the Donald
Duck comics to me every week. I soon became an avid collector and my dad
helped me sort all the comics and put them in Donald Duck albums. In 1978
i got my first introduction to Carl Barks when "Jeg, Donald Duck" was
released. This was an oversized book with classic Barks adventure stories.
I also learned about Floyd Gottfredson when Mickey Mouse stories (many banned
ones) were released in the same format. Since then I've been an avid collector
of both Duck & Mouse stories.
Currently I am buying all the Barks Library in Colour albums, and I get a
real kick once in a while when I find a Barks story that I haven't read. I
am also trying to collect all the Van Horn and Rosa stories released through
Gladstone and in Norway.
My other interests are varied. I often go to the movies, and I like to read
fiction. Mainly in the fantasy and horror genre. I also play role-playing
games with some friends once in a while. The only sporting activity you'll
ever catch me performing is soccer.
Jon C. Lorentzen
*******************************************************************
"Uh-hyuck! Uh-hyuh-hyuh-hyuck!"
"Aw, fer gosh sakes! Shut up, Goofy!" >SWAT<
I'm David Gerstein, single, male, 20, and Flippist -- er,
Jewish. I've been a fan of the Ducks ever since 1979, when I bought a
trio of Whitman comics that included "Back to the Klondike" and "The
Not-So-Ancient Mariner". Two years later, I spent weeks saving up all
of $20 and purchased the first book I had ever bought on my own, the
Abbeville Press MICKEY MOUSE collection by Floyd Gottfredson.
I was hooked, but it didn't take me long to figure out that
Whitman's Barks stories were poorly-chosen, a lot of their other stuff
was rubbish, and that Abbeville's Gottfredson stories were mutilated.
Then came Gladstone. My liking of the Duck and Mouse clans
increased a hundredfold as I began to revel in the history of their
stories. As the years passed, I became more and more interested in
these tales and their creators, until I had accumulated a large
reference library of the comics, their animated inspirations, and
dusty tomes about both.
In 1988 I submitted my first Duck story to Gladstone, "The
Great Pie Promotion." It was flatly rejected (and no wonder, when I
look at it now!), but after a lot of work, I'm now writing original
Duck and Mouse sagas for Egmont Publishing and doing American scripts
for many of the foreign stories Gladstone's printing. Also, my
Egmont work will probably appear here, but no earlier than 1995.
I am proud to call myself Floyd Gottfredson's greatest fan,
and have revelled in the Mouse Man's superb work for years. Anyone
who dares comment that Mickey is the plaything of mealy-mouthed
infants in my presence is forced to read Gottfredson comics until they
revoke their scathing comment. One day I hope to convince Disney to
allow reprint (hopefully by Gladstone) of the entire Gottfredson MM
adventure continuity 1930-1956, and if and when such a thing is
authorized, I hope to be among its editors.
My least favorite modern Disney creators are generally the
Jaime Diaz Studio, particularly in their interpretation of Mickey
Mouse. My favorite modern creator is Don Rosa, with Daan Jippes a
close second. I also love the work of Romano Scarpa, though I feel
that his finest Mickey tales are behind him now. I think Daniel
Branca is a superb artist, but his work varies with the quality of the
scripts he's given.
My signature quote these days, "I'm the Fuller Brush Man! I'm
givin' g'way free semple!" comes from the Disney cartoon, THE THREE
LITTLE PIGS, during which the Wolf reveals his Jewish heritage. Like
Zeke himself, I too am a (definitely non-Kosher) Jew. I love to find
examples -- like that one -- of Jewish cartoon characters appearing in
Disney product. See any others? Tell me about them! NOW! Or I'll
huff, and I'll puff, and I'll blow your _bayit_ in! Thank you.
Your friend,
David Gerstein
<David.A.Gerstein at Williams.edu>
*******************************************************************
PREVIOUS INTRODUC(K)TIONS BELOW!! PREVIOUS INTRODUC(K)TIONS BELOW!!
*******************************************************************
Well, my name is Mattias Hallin, I'm 29 years old (born in 1965), and work in
the administration of Lund University, Lund, Sweden, at the registrar's office
and in the University archives.
I majored in History, and also did some Archeaology and Anthropology/Ethnology.
I've tried my hand at a Ph.D. thesis in History, but has presently shelved that
project for reasons of gotta-eat.
Furthermore, I'm a part-time proof-reader, student and musician -- the latter
on banjo, guitar and to some extent cornet; I play Classic 1920's
Jazz/Traditional Jazz/Swing -- call it what you will, but don't call it
Dixieland! (The Word "Dixieland" should EITHER be a geographic term, OR denote
the music played by WHITE musicians FROM New Orleans, between c. 1915-1925.)
I'm a Carl Barks fan, ever since I was able to recognize "the good artist" --
and that was years before I knew his name! I'm also a board member of Swedish
Donaldistic association NAFS(k), and with my brother co-editor-in-chief of the
fanzine NAFS(k)uriren.
Also, I do have an adress: Mattias Hallin
Trollebergsvagen 24 B
S-222 29 Lund, SWEDEN
phone +46 46-14 84 43 (home)
+46 46-10 71 37 (work)
"If yer ever down in Texas, look me up!" Any passing donaldist will find me
perenially ready to roll out the red carpet! "Come up and see me some time!
(Hic!) Come up and see me some time (Hic!)..."
*******************************************************************
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 1994 07:01:13 -0500
From: dubach1 at husc.harvard.edu
Hello! My name is Joev Dubach, and I'm a senior at Harvard (in the
easily-drawn snow-covered state of Massachusetts.) I'm from Seattle, which I
naturally prefer to Boston (my hometown can beat your hometown!) I'm working
on graduating with a degree in Math and Computer Science, after which I plan
to get a real job. I found out about this list through the r.a.c. FAQ, being
a regular reader of racm, and, on a lark, decided to subscribe. I haven't
bought a Disney comic since I was four feet tall, which is what drives me to
lurk; I just don't know that much. But the wonderful discussion on this list
is driving me ever closer to trying some current Gladstones, and I'm
particularly intrigued by the discussion of The Life and Times of Scrooge
McDuck. Does anyone have a recommended cheap starting point for Carl Barks'
Ducks? There's so much of it out there, in very different forms and
intersecting contents, that I'm a bit daunted. Anyhow, thanks for the
enlightening discussion!
(That should be enough of an introduction, I think. Bye now!)
Joev
*******************************************************************
Name: Marshall T. Allen, commonly called Mark
Born in Oak Ridge Tennesee, USA in 1954, moved to Maryland in 1957, and
currently live in Elkridge, Maryland, USA (SW of Baltimore).
Gainfully employed as a contract negotiator for the Johns Hopkins University's
Applied Physics Laboratory in Laurel, Maryland, USA.
Interested primarily in the Ducks and the FG Mouse, but collect any Disney
comic I can afford.
*******************************************************************
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 1994 15:28:19 +0100
From: bjorn-are.davidsen at s.televerket.tele.no
Subject: Introduction to Bjorn Are Davidsen
As one of the most eager lurkers on the list (and contributor every second
month), I am glad for this opportunity to introduce myself! This is written
somewhat hurrily, and as a bit more of a listing than it perhaps should have
been.
Name: Bjorn Are Daviden (the "Bjorn" is with a Norwegian "oe").
Working place: Norwegian Telecom, Network Division, Product Developement
(which means mainly network access services like ISDN, Centrex, VPN and so on,
and related to terminal based services like videophone (for some reason
seldom seen in Barks or other Disney series).
I live in Oslo and beside lurking/participating on the list I am married (two
children, 3.5 and 0.7 years). When I have time off from my dear children and
wife I (and my wife just as much) read a LOT (Science Fiction, Chesterton,
Detective Stories, Tolkien, Lewis, Solsjenitsyn, Historical novels, Historical
non fiction - sometimes called History (By the way, Marco Polo did really visit
Constantinople as I pointed out last autumn, but - as I also pointed out - as
the first one I think - several decades after the Fourth Crusade of 1204),
comics (besides Gottfredson, Barks and Rosa everything from Terry and the
Pirates to Sandman), theology, sociology and more. And I listen
(and participate in various fan clubs) to music (Emerson, Lake and Palmer,
Gentle Giant, Beatles, Hendrix and others).
Besides, I write regularly articles to Norwegian magazines/papers on history,
theology, music, comics and other subjects I enjoy.
As you may imagine, there is not much time left to write to the digest...
My particular Donaldistic interest is anything and everything by Barks,
Gottfredson, Taliaferro and Rosa.
Yours
Bjorn Are
*******************************************************************
I have no problem with being including in your introduc(k)tion file,
since I have already posted a couple of things about myself to the
list in the past. I'm a charter member, since Per and I had exchanged
E-mail maybe twice before, based on postings to rec.arts.comics.
One thing I have told the list is my age, since I was worried that I
appeared to be the oldest member. I was born in 1949. I learned that
at least 2 other people on the list are older than I am (by 1 and 5
years), but I suppose I should not reveal who those geezers are, in
case they want to continue to be taken seriously by the young folks
who read their postings. Anyway, I learned to read by following the
words and pictures in WDC&S during the early 1950's, and I've remained
hooked on stories of the Duckburg universe ever since then. The other
item which I posted to the list is that my favorite story may be con-
nected to my profession: I was always especially fascinated by Barks's
"Land Beneath the Ground", and now I am a seismologist! Truthfully,
I cannot say whether there is any connection there, but I can't dismiss
the possibility. I suppose if there is anything more that I should add
to your introduc(k)tion file, it is that I live in Alexandria, Virginia
(just across the Potomac River from Washington, D.C.). However, I
refuse to be held responsible for any actions by the US Government!
Wilmer Rivers
rivers at seismo.css.gov
*******************************************************************
My name if Fredrik Ekman. I am a 23-year-old student from Sweden, and
like all other Swedes of my (and several previous) generation, I have
been reading and enjoying Disney comics for as long as I can remember.
Thus, I'm naturally also a member of the Swedish donaldist organization
NAFS(k).
Currently, I am doing my third year at a college in Ronneby. This
college (located in the in some circles rather well-known Soft Center)
is specialized in computer science educations, and that is also what
I am studying. When this semester is finished, I hope to have the
Swedish equivalence of a bachelor exam.
When it comes to Disney comics, I especially enjoy those by Carl Barks
(of course), Don Rosa and William Van Horn. I also read a lot of other
comics and my favourite creators outside Disney are Alan Moore, Steve
Gerber and Marten Toonder, to mention but a few. I generally prefer a
good story to fancy art.
When I do not study, play with my computer or read comics I may
possibly be found doing one of the following things: Reading books
(you know, the ones with no pictures in them), training Ju-Jutsu or
singing in a choir.
*******************************************************************
Harry Fluks: male, single, born in 1962, Dutch nationality.
Address:
Harry Fluks
Burg. Caan van Necklaan 250
2262 GN Leidschendam
The Netherlands
I have studied econometrics (with lots of computer
science) at the university of Groningen. I now work at the research
department of the Dutch mail and telephone company (PTT).
My family had a subscription to the Dutch DD Weekly from 1966-1972. After
that, I was considered too old for that stuff. In 1977, I started to
collect 2nd-hand comics myself.
The first time I learned about Carl Barks was in the foreword of the Dutch
"Beste Verhalen van Donald Duck" #4, in 1977. One year later, I read the
Dutch "Barks Boek" by Rob Stechweij. It gave a (largely erratic) index on all
Barks stories.
Since then, I tried to make my own index, which became computerised in 1983,
and public (on our ftp site) in 1992/1993.
Only in 1986, when I moved from Groningen to Leidschendam (near The Hague),
I found out that in the cities in this area in Holland, there were some
comic specialty shops that sold American comics, like Gladstone comics.
Nowadays I try to read all my Disney material in sequence: when I'm finished
with the last issue, I start again with the first. Such a cycle can take 2 or
3 years...
I have a subscription (again) to the Dutch Donald Duck, and I only buy
foreign Disney comics (German, USA) if they contain interesting stories.
Since my Barks, Jippes and Gottfredson collections are a good as complete, I
have much fun in trying to get a complete Rosa collection.
I try to collect Disney comic stories, but not at all cost: I have a sort of
maximum price per page. If a comic is considered rare and expensive, I try to
get a reprint. I'm collecting comic STORIES, not comic ISSUES.
In 1992, I helped De Geillustreerde Pers (the Dutch Disney publisher) in
publishing a complete library of Barks stories. They used my (forementioned)
index, which I think is the most complete Barks index in Holland.
Other hobbies include reading, (Dutch) language, geography, and my current
work.
(That's it.)
--Harry.
*******************************************************************
*******************************************************************
Sigurdur Hrafn Gislason
How can you tell?
Message 11 -
1994-03-02 at 14:22:25
I have been reading this forum for nearly 2 weeks (I think) and really like
the professional tone of your letters. My problem is that you keep discussing
various puplications and different artists and I lose track because I simply
don't know enough. Could you give me the following info?
Are stories written in various countries? Which countries are that,
who are the guys who do it and how can I tell between artists?
I really didn't know that Roger Rabbit was a Disney character. Does he
have his own comic?
Is there any difference between Europian Disney comics and the American ones?
I have read Donald Duck (translated Andres Ond in Icelandic) since I was
5 or 6, and have read nearly every issue since then (I'm born in '71) so
I don't want to consider myself ignorant but this information is not
included in the stories and I really want to know.
One other thing. I feel that the quality of Donald Duck Comics has improved
vastly over the last ten years or so. I mean really incredibly. They are
getting funnier and better written. Is this some policy change in the Disney
company or simply better artists?
Sig
--
the professional tone of your letters. My problem is that you keep discussing
various puplications and different artists and I lose track because I simply
don't know enough. Could you give me the following info?
Are stories written in various countries? Which countries are that,
who are the guys who do it and how can I tell between artists?
I really didn't know that Roger Rabbit was a Disney character. Does he
have his own comic?
Is there any difference between Europian Disney comics and the American ones?
I have read Donald Duck (translated Andres Ond in Icelandic) since I was
5 or 6, and have read nearly every issue since then (I'm born in '71) so
I don't want to consider myself ignorant but this information is not
included in the stories and I really want to know.
One other thing. I feel that the quality of Donald Duck Comics has improved
vastly over the last ten years or so. I mean really incredibly. They are
getting funnier and better written. Is this some policy change in the Disney
company or simply better artists?
Sig
--
Mattias Hallin
How can you tell?
Message 12 -
1994-03-02 at 14:59:14
SIGURDUR:
(though we've exchanged a few postings already) -- Welcome on the
list! Yes, yes... I'm afraid many of our discussions seems to presuppose a vast
knowledge about magazines and publishers in various countries at various times,
and that we often use mysterious abbreviations and/or other apocryphal
expressions -- that is, alas, in the nature of things like these, and takes
some time to pick up when not familiar. A few tips, though:
a) the ftp files accumulated from the activities on this list are a deep well
of information, including indexes of various kind -- Per Starback, or your
local computer guru can probably tell you how to get at'em
b) since your an Icelander, you might (?) possibly have some kind of working
knowledge of the Scandinavian languages??? If so, you might want to join the
Swedish Donaldistic Association, NAFS(k) ("Nationella AnkistF|rbundet i Sverige
(kvack)), who has a fanzine, NAFS(k)uriren, where much info can be found. Also,
there is the Danish 'zine "Carl Barks & C:o", the German "Der Donaldist" and
the American 'zines "The Duckburg Times" and "The Barks Collector"
c) go on reading the discussions on the list, and ask any silly (or good!)
questions you want to, to any and all of us!!!
If you're interested in any or all of the above, I can get the adressess for
you, if you just say so -- I don't have'em handy here at work, but I could get
them for you.
All my best
Mattias Hallin
Lund, Sweden
(though we've exchanged a few postings already) -- Welcome on the
list! Yes, yes... I'm afraid many of our discussions seems to presuppose a vast
knowledge about magazines and publishers in various countries at various times,
and that we often use mysterious abbreviations and/or other apocryphal
expressions -- that is, alas, in the nature of things like these, and takes
some time to pick up when not familiar. A few tips, though:
a) the ftp files accumulated from the activities on this list are a deep well
of information, including indexes of various kind -- Per Starback, or your
local computer guru can probably tell you how to get at'em
b) since your an Icelander, you might (?) possibly have some kind of working
knowledge of the Scandinavian languages??? If so, you might want to join the
Swedish Donaldistic Association, NAFS(k) ("Nationella AnkistF|rbundet i Sverige
(kvack)), who has a fanzine, NAFS(k)uriren, where much info can be found. Also,
there is the Danish 'zine "Carl Barks & C:o", the German "Der Donaldist" and
the American 'zines "The Duckburg Times" and "The Barks Collector"
c) go on reading the discussions on the list, and ask any silly (or good!)
questions you want to, to any and all of us!!!
If you're interested in any or all of the above, I can get the adressess for
you, if you just say so -- I don't have'em handy here at work, but I could get
them for you.
All my best
Mattias Hallin
Lund, Sweden
Harry Fluks
How can you tell?
Message 13 -
1994-03-02 at 15:12:20
> From: shg at rhi.hi.is (Sigurdur Hrafn Gislason)
(what a wonderful name)
> Are stories written in various countries? Which countries are that,
> who are the guys who do it and how can I tell between artists?
I'll send you a copy of the ftp file 'story-codes' which gives answers to most
of these questions.
--Harry.
Harry PTT Research ()_() Dutch Disney comics freak
Fluks Leidschendam (_) H.W.Fluks at research.ptt.nl
"Yeah... I've _heard_ of coral barques!"
(what a wonderful name)
> Are stories written in various countries? Which countries are that,
> who are the guys who do it and how can I tell between artists?
I'll send you a copy of the ftp file 'story-codes' which gives answers to most
of these questions.
--Harry.
Harry PTT Research ()_() Dutch Disney comics freak
Fluks Leidschendam (_) H.W.Fluks at research.ptt.nl
"Yeah... I've _heard_ of coral barques!"
David A Gerstein
Disney-comics digest #257.
Message 14 -
1994-03-03 at 05:53:16
Dear Folks,
A few things to comment on today.
Tom and Jerry as Tex Avery rip-offs
===================================
This is a rather inappropriate discussion for this newsgroup,
but I feel I should make something clear. Don Rosa said, "TOM & JERRY
was Hanna and Barbera's slapstick-violent answer to Tex Avery's
slapstickly violent product which was also usually done for MGM
(though also for WB or Lantz). Perhaps any T&J that you see in ROGER
RABBIT was because T&J was an imitation of Tex Avery as well."
In fact it's slightly different: T&J started the violence.
They were created in 1939, at which point Tex's cartoons -- then being
done for WB -- had very little violence in them, just very fast and
silly gags. The first really violent Avery cartoons were basically
the ones he did for MGM, starting in 1942. BTW, he worked for Lantz
from 1930-1935 and 1954-1955.
Tom and Jerry are violent, but please... they do have more
personality than the protagonists of Avery's later, more violent
cartoons. The best example -- 1941's "The Night Before Christmas."
Which reminds me: Mattias Hallin's quote, "Come up and see me
sometime! >HIC!< Come up and see me sometime! >HIC!<" is from the
1943 T&J cartoon "Mouse Trouble," in which Tom sets out a wind-up Mae
West mouse to lure Jerry, then accidentally swallows it...
Changes in DD 286
=================
A change has been made regarding a project I have told all of
you I was involved with, so I'll tell you about it now so that you
aren't confused when it's published...
The Federico Pedrocchi 1937 story "The Secret of Mars" is
still in DD 286, but as of right now will not have my American script
attached. Although Gladstone did accept my script, they have since
decided that due to the importance of the story, the dialogue should
be as close to the original as possible -- whereas mine was a very
typical "Gerstein dialogued foreign story," with tons of wisecracks,
plot tweaks, and Barksish phrases and comments which weren't in the
original. The upshot is that Bruce Hamilton has written a new American
script that's more like Fabio's translation. As of right now that's the
version that will be used. I'll be compensated for my attempt...
I'm disappointed that my version, perhaps my personal favorite
among my rewrites, will not be used, but I can understand the current
decision, and I'm curious to see what Bruce's duck-writing is like.
In any event, though, I am still to write a text page about the story
which will accompany it in DD 286. At least Fabio and I succeeded in
getting this story into the 60th-birthday issue.
My next dialog will thus probably be in USA 28, released a month
later (July), although I have no idea which one will be used. I'll
tell you guys when I know...
Upcoming Gladstones -- what are they?
=====================================
Well, Folks, does someone now have a Comic preview guide from
Diamond or Advance Comics? Seems like we should hear what's gonna be
in DDA 27, WDC&S 592, and US 287 (issues in late May/early June).
I'd also like to know what USA 26 is like. It will be a
pleasure to finally see "Back to the Klondike" with computer color
like it deserves. In Album #4 the fantastic barroom battle scene was
especially strangely colored -- EVERYONE but Scrooge was BLUE!! I
guess that was supposed to draw our attention to full-color McDuck,
but instead, the blue characters were what I saw first... I'm looking
foward to this. BTW, is there anything else in there besides the Tony
Strobl story?
My introduc(k)tion: line missing!
==================================
Why did my introduction begin with Goofy laughing dumbly? The
first line was supposed to say, "So you want my introducktion? Here's
the dope!" The idea being that Goofy was the dope... (sorry, Goofy...
I know, you've got a special kind of mind.)
Banned Gottfredsons
===================
The recent discussion of "An Education for Thursday" being
reprinted in Norway, and of the Norwegian "big white books" containing
banned Gottfredson stories, leads me to offer this list of the
Gottfredson stories I know are banned. I have put an asterisk * after
those which could perhaps be run with minor changes, and ** after those
for which changes would be more major. I don't have any hope for those
which I haven't asterisked, although quite frankly I would not print
those in the comics myself, had I the power and the editor's job. Of
course I would put them in a complete FG library.
Anyway:
** MM Lost on a Desert Island
* MM vs. Mr. Slicker and the Egg Robbers (suicide sequence
required to be cut, but no changes to other strips)
** MM and the Gypsies
* MM and the Great Orphanage Robbery
** MM Sails for Treasure Island
* Dr. Oofgay's Secret Serum (yes, this is banned now because
Dr. Oofgay is German)
* MM and the Sacred Jewel
* MM in the Foreign Legion
MM in Search of Jungle Treasure
* MM Mighty Whale Hunter
** MM Meets Robinson Crusoe
An Education for Thursday
? The Atombrella and the Rhyming Man
A similar length to the list of Barks stories that can only be
reprinted with changes... BUT there is a major difference, that is
that Disney does not like to allow newspaper strips to be censored
out of respect to Gottfredson (although now and then, they will let it
be done) while they do not mind changes being made in Barks.
I personally would rather see the above stories censored than
not at all. In fact, I could argue that not letting them out at all
is far greater censorship than letting the comic appear with some
retouchings and rewritings.
(I am only guessing at the "Atombrella" because Gladstone had
originally planned to print it way back in MICKEY AND DONALD 10 and it
didn't show up...)
So long, gang.
David Gerstein
"I'm the Fuller Brush Man! I'm givin' g'way free semple!"
<David.A.Gerstein at Williams.edu>
A few things to comment on today.
Tom and Jerry as Tex Avery rip-offs
===================================
This is a rather inappropriate discussion for this newsgroup,
but I feel I should make something clear. Don Rosa said, "TOM & JERRY
was Hanna and Barbera's slapstick-violent answer to Tex Avery's
slapstickly violent product which was also usually done for MGM
(though also for WB or Lantz). Perhaps any T&J that you see in ROGER
RABBIT was because T&J was an imitation of Tex Avery as well."
In fact it's slightly different: T&J started the violence.
They were created in 1939, at which point Tex's cartoons -- then being
done for WB -- had very little violence in them, just very fast and
silly gags. The first really violent Avery cartoons were basically
the ones he did for MGM, starting in 1942. BTW, he worked for Lantz
from 1930-1935 and 1954-1955.
Tom and Jerry are violent, but please... they do have more
personality than the protagonists of Avery's later, more violent
cartoons. The best example -- 1941's "The Night Before Christmas."
Which reminds me: Mattias Hallin's quote, "Come up and see me
sometime! >HIC!< Come up and see me sometime! >HIC!<" is from the
1943 T&J cartoon "Mouse Trouble," in which Tom sets out a wind-up Mae
West mouse to lure Jerry, then accidentally swallows it...
Changes in DD 286
=================
A change has been made regarding a project I have told all of
you I was involved with, so I'll tell you about it now so that you
aren't confused when it's published...
The Federico Pedrocchi 1937 story "The Secret of Mars" is
still in DD 286, but as of right now will not have my American script
attached. Although Gladstone did accept my script, they have since
decided that due to the importance of the story, the dialogue should
be as close to the original as possible -- whereas mine was a very
typical "Gerstein dialogued foreign story," with tons of wisecracks,
plot tweaks, and Barksish phrases and comments which weren't in the
original. The upshot is that Bruce Hamilton has written a new American
script that's more like Fabio's translation. As of right now that's the
version that will be used. I'll be compensated for my attempt...
I'm disappointed that my version, perhaps my personal favorite
among my rewrites, will not be used, but I can understand the current
decision, and I'm curious to see what Bruce's duck-writing is like.
In any event, though, I am still to write a text page about the story
which will accompany it in DD 286. At least Fabio and I succeeded in
getting this story into the 60th-birthday issue.
My next dialog will thus probably be in USA 28, released a month
later (July), although I have no idea which one will be used. I'll
tell you guys when I know...
Upcoming Gladstones -- what are they?
=====================================
Well, Folks, does someone now have a Comic preview guide from
Diamond or Advance Comics? Seems like we should hear what's gonna be
in DDA 27, WDC&S 592, and US 287 (issues in late May/early June).
I'd also like to know what USA 26 is like. It will be a
pleasure to finally see "Back to the Klondike" with computer color
like it deserves. In Album #4 the fantastic barroom battle scene was
especially strangely colored -- EVERYONE but Scrooge was BLUE!! I
guess that was supposed to draw our attention to full-color McDuck,
but instead, the blue characters were what I saw first... I'm looking
foward to this. BTW, is there anything else in there besides the Tony
Strobl story?
My introduc(k)tion: line missing!
==================================
Why did my introduction begin with Goofy laughing dumbly? The
first line was supposed to say, "So you want my introducktion? Here's
the dope!" The idea being that Goofy was the dope... (sorry, Goofy...
I know, you've got a special kind of mind.)
Banned Gottfredsons
===================
The recent discussion of "An Education for Thursday" being
reprinted in Norway, and of the Norwegian "big white books" containing
banned Gottfredson stories, leads me to offer this list of the
Gottfredson stories I know are banned. I have put an asterisk * after
those which could perhaps be run with minor changes, and ** after those
for which changes would be more major. I don't have any hope for those
which I haven't asterisked, although quite frankly I would not print
those in the comics myself, had I the power and the editor's job. Of
course I would put them in a complete FG library.
Anyway:
** MM Lost on a Desert Island
* MM vs. Mr. Slicker and the Egg Robbers (suicide sequence
required to be cut, but no changes to other strips)
** MM and the Gypsies
* MM and the Great Orphanage Robbery
** MM Sails for Treasure Island
* Dr. Oofgay's Secret Serum (yes, this is banned now because
Dr. Oofgay is German)
* MM and the Sacred Jewel
* MM in the Foreign Legion
MM in Search of Jungle Treasure
* MM Mighty Whale Hunter
** MM Meets Robinson Crusoe
An Education for Thursday
? The Atombrella and the Rhyming Man
A similar length to the list of Barks stories that can only be
reprinted with changes... BUT there is a major difference, that is
that Disney does not like to allow newspaper strips to be censored
out of respect to Gottfredson (although now and then, they will let it
be done) while they do not mind changes being made in Barks.
I personally would rather see the above stories censored than
not at all. In fact, I could argue that not letting them out at all
is far greater censorship than letting the comic appear with some
retouchings and rewritings.
(I am only guessing at the "Atombrella" because Gladstone had
originally planned to print it way back in MICKEY AND DONALD 10 and it
didn't show up...)
So long, gang.
David Gerstein
"I'm the Fuller Brush Man! I'm givin' g'way free semple!"
<David.A.Gerstein at Williams.edu>
Mark Semich
Disney-comics digest #257.
Message 15 -
1994-03-03 at 06:49:58
>From: David A Gerstein <David.A.Gerstein at williams.edu>
(On DD 286)
> I'm disappointed that my version, perhaps my personal favorite
>among my rewrites, will not be used, but I can understand the current
>decision, and I'm curious to see what Bruce's duck-writing is like.
I like your "tons of wisecracks, plot tweaks, and Barksish phrases and
comments which weren't in the original" style of dialogue - I hope
that we can see your take on this story some day.
I, too, am curious to discover what Bruce Hamilton's duck writing is
like, but given his alleged fondness for the "Mickey and the Slueth"
stuff, I must confess that I'm also a little worried.
> I'd also like to know what USA 26 is like. It will be a
>pleasure to finally see "Back to the Klondike" with computer color
>like it deserves. In Album #4 the fantastic barroom battle scene was
>especially strangely colored -- EVERYONE but Scrooge was BLUE!!
There's still a lot of blue in this scene, but it's not *all* blue.
There is also an unusually colored panel that may be a mistake, or may
be intended to look "artsy" - on the panel where Donald is being
chased by Blackjack across a bent-over tree, the night sky is white
above the tree but dark blue beneath it. I suspect that this was
intentional, but I find it to be a little odd.
>BTW, is there anything else in there besides the Tony
>Strobl story?
Barks' "Back to the Klondike,"
Strobl's "Uncle Scrooge and Money,"
Danish (Halas + Avenell) "The Sultan of Phud,"
Strobl's "DD in Twice the Fun"
(One good story that I've already read, one OK story that's historically
interesting, and two not-that-great stories.)
(Banned Gottfredson:)
> * Dr. Oofgay's Secret Serum (yes, this is banned now because
>Dr. Oofgay is German)
So what nationality *can* a bad guy be? Do *all* bad guys have to be
white Americans? Sounds a little prejudiced to me... :-)
(On DD 286)
> I'm disappointed that my version, perhaps my personal favorite
>among my rewrites, will not be used, but I can understand the current
>decision, and I'm curious to see what Bruce's duck-writing is like.
I like your "tons of wisecracks, plot tweaks, and Barksish phrases and
comments which weren't in the original" style of dialogue - I hope
that we can see your take on this story some day.
I, too, am curious to discover what Bruce Hamilton's duck writing is
like, but given his alleged fondness for the "Mickey and the Slueth"
stuff, I must confess that I'm also a little worried.
> I'd also like to know what USA 26 is like. It will be a
>pleasure to finally see "Back to the Klondike" with computer color
>like it deserves. In Album #4 the fantastic barroom battle scene was
>especially strangely colored -- EVERYONE but Scrooge was BLUE!!
There's still a lot of blue in this scene, but it's not *all* blue.
There is also an unusually colored panel that may be a mistake, or may
be intended to look "artsy" - on the panel where Donald is being
chased by Blackjack across a bent-over tree, the night sky is white
above the tree but dark blue beneath it. I suspect that this was
intentional, but I find it to be a little odd.
>BTW, is there anything else in there besides the Tony
>Strobl story?
Barks' "Back to the Klondike,"
Strobl's "Uncle Scrooge and Money,"
Danish (Halas + Avenell) "The Sultan of Phud,"
Strobl's "DD in Twice the Fun"
(One good story that I've already read, one OK story that's historically
interesting, and two not-that-great stories.)
(Banned Gottfredson:)
> * Dr. Oofgay's Secret Serum (yes, this is banned now because
>Dr. Oofgay is German)
So what nationality *can* a bad guy be? Do *all* bad guys have to be
white Americans? Sounds a little prejudiced to me... :-)