By the way, it's Carl Barks's birthday today!
-- "
Per Starback
Author
Topic: 199403
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Per Starback
Happy Birthday!
Message 121 -
1994-03-27 at 21:28:29
Harry Fluks
Easter issue of Kalle Anka & Co.
Message 122 -
1994-03-28 at 10:38:04
Fredrik:
> This double-sized easter issue is the best I've seen for a
> very long time. (...) there's a
> wonderful poster of one of Barks' oils, four times the size
> of the comic book.
Could you describe this oil? (Just curious. Don told us that Egmont stopped
reprinting Barks' oils when Barks said he didn't like that)
> Don't miss it!
I'm afraid I have to...
--Harry.
> This double-sized easter issue is the best I've seen for a
> very long time. (...) there's a
> wonderful poster of one of Barks' oils, four times the size
> of the comic book.
Could you describe this oil? (Just curious. Don told us that Egmont stopped
reprinting Barks' oils when Barks said he didn't like that)
> Don't miss it!
I'm afraid I have to...
--Harry.
Harry Fluks
Hotwind J. Flated again
Message 123 -
1994-03-28 at 10:56:49
Now that Dwight Decker joined this list (Welkom, Dwight! Zoals je wellicht
gezien hebt volstaat het om Engels te schrijven 8-) I'll repeat one of the
previous messages:
David asked about the Jippes story in last
month's WDC&S ("High-Flying Picnic"):
> Important question: The author of Donald's ballooning book in
> that story, Hotwind J. Flated, is clearly a caricature of Carl Barks.
> Some of the ink lines look altered. Was this a Barks caricature in
> the Dutch version as well? If so, has it been altered for its
> appearance here?
In the Dutch version the book has no author at all.
Dwight, did you translate (and script) that story? If so, maybe you could
give us some more information.
(Now don't unsubscribe because of the questions... if you just want to
READ the messages in this list, that's OK too)
--Harry.
Harry PTT Research ()_() Dutch Disney comics freak
Fluks Leidschendam (_) H.W.Fluks at research.ptt.nl
"Yeah... I've _heard_ of coral barques!"
gezien hebt volstaat het om Engels te schrijven 8-) I'll repeat one of the
previous messages:
David asked about the Jippes story in last
month's WDC&S ("High-Flying Picnic"):
> Important question: The author of Donald's ballooning book in
> that story, Hotwind J. Flated, is clearly a caricature of Carl Barks.
> Some of the ink lines look altered. Was this a Barks caricature in
> the Dutch version as well? If so, has it been altered for its
> appearance here?
In the Dutch version the book has no author at all.
Dwight, did you translate (and script) that story? If so, maybe you could
give us some more information.
(Now don't unsubscribe because of the questions... if you just want to
READ the messages in this list, that's OK too)
--Harry.
Harry PTT Research ()_() Dutch Disney comics freak
Fluks Leidschendam (_) H.W.Fluks at research.ptt.nl
"Yeah... I've _heard_ of coral barques!"
Fredrik Ekman
Easter issue of Kalle Anka & Co.
Message 124 -
1994-03-28 at 11:00:12
> Could you describe this oil? (Just curious. Don told us that Egmont stopped
> reprinting Barks' oils when Barks said he didn't like that)
Actually, I haven't even pulled it out and examined it closely yet, but
there's a small reproduction of it on the front page and another inside
the comic book. It depicts donald and the nephews in the car. They seem
to be out on a ride in the mountains and they are (if I remember
correctly) very close to fall off a narrow bridge. There are also several
wild animals all around that seem ready to attack any second. HD&L seem
completely terrified while Donald is absolutely calm. The whole picture
goes in some dark blue colour.
/F
> reprinting Barks' oils when Barks said he didn't like that)
Actually, I haven't even pulled it out and examined it closely yet, but
there's a small reproduction of it on the front page and another inside
the comic book. It depicts donald and the nephews in the car. They seem
to be out on a ride in the mountains and they are (if I remember
correctly) very close to fall off a narrow bridge. There are also several
wild animals all around that seem ready to attack any second. HD&L seem
completely terrified while Donald is absolutely calm. The whole picture
goes in some dark blue colour.
/F
Harry Fluks
Various notes from tulip-country
Message 125 -
1994-03-28 at 11:07:50
Just some notes to make this mailing list less quiet...
Rumour says there have been several fake schedules for Barks'
European tour, to distract the fans. Otherwise, Barks wouldn't survive
his tour... In any case, his Amsterdam visit will be very quiet, just
dinner with some big-shots from the publisher, and maybe a boat
tour through the Amsterdam canals.
Jippes will keep redrawing the Barks Junior Woodchuck stories: Thom Roep
keeps asking for them. But Jippes is not in a hurry, so it may be
several years before he finishes the last story...
(Americans can see the first one in the Uncle Scrooge issue with Rosa's
Lo$ part 3)
--Harry.
Rumour says there have been several fake schedules for Barks'
European tour, to distract the fans. Otherwise, Barks wouldn't survive
his tour... In any case, his Amsterdam visit will be very quiet, just
dinner with some big-shots from the publisher, and maybe a boat
tour through the Amsterdam canals.
Jippes will keep redrawing the Barks Junior Woodchuck stories: Thom Roep
keeps asking for them. But Jippes is not in a hurry, so it may be
several years before he finishes the last story...
(Americans can see the first one in the Uncle Scrooge issue with Rosa's
Lo$ part 3)
--Harry.
Fabio Gadducci
Topolino #2000
Message 126 -
1994-03-28 at 15:46:34
Fredrick wrote:
>Since it's kind of quiet around here with both Mattias and
>David away for easter hollidays, I thought I could just go
>ahead and announce the latest issue of Swedish Kalle Anka &
>Co. I assume that the other Scandinavian issues are the same
>or at least very similar.
Well, so let me talk a little about Topolino #2000.
There are 4 stories in that issue. The first one by Cavazzano, the second
one by Scarpa. There is a nice cover by Cavazzano, and with the issue you
get a cel with the reproduction of the cover. Besides, each author who
worked for Topolino got a little sketch, or article, printed in that issue.
Moreover, there is in the newstands a "Topolino special edition", a
paperback 300 hundreds pages long with some stories and the biographies of
ALL the Disney contributors who published in Italy more the fifty (I think)
stories. With it, you get a reprinting of the first issue of the pocket
edition of Topolino, published back in 1946.
If some of you is interested, I can get a copy of Topolino 2000 and of
Topolino special edition (both of them for 10$, more or less, comprising
s&h).
>
>Don't miss it!
>
>\F.
I agree.
Fabio
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>Since it's kind of quiet around here with both Mattias and
>David away for easter hollidays, I thought I could just go
>ahead and announce the latest issue of Swedish Kalle Anka &
>Co. I assume that the other Scandinavian issues are the same
>or at least very similar.
Well, so let me talk a little about Topolino #2000.
There are 4 stories in that issue. The first one by Cavazzano, the second
one by Scarpa. There is a nice cover by Cavazzano, and with the issue you
get a cel with the reproduction of the cover. Besides, each author who
worked for Topolino got a little sketch, or article, printed in that issue.
Moreover, there is in the newstands a "Topolino special edition", a
paperback 300 hundreds pages long with some stories and the biographies of
ALL the Disney contributors who published in Italy more the fifty (I think)
stories. With it, you get a reprinting of the first issue of the pocket
edition of Topolino, published back in 1946.
If some of you is interested, I can get a copy of Topolino 2000 and of
Topolino special edition (both of them for 10$, more or less, comprising
s&h).
>
>Don't miss it!
>
>\F.
I agree.
Fabio
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Fabio Gadducci
Happy Birthday!
Message 127 -
1994-03-28 at 15:47:14
>By the way, it's Carl Barks's birthday today!
>-- "
>Per Starback
Gosh, from the headline I thought you were talking about MY birthday
(Btw on March, 25).
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>-- "
>Per Starback
Gosh, from the headline I thought you were talking about MY birthday
(Btw on March, 25).
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Don Rosa
Disney-comics digest #279.
Message 128 -
1994-03-28 at 17:24:55
CENTER OF EARTH STORY:
It would hardly do for the Ducks to decide to go to the center
of the Earth and then never get there. They even knew better than to
carry that idea from the Verne book over to the 1959 movie, and let
James Mason reach the center, even though even at age 8 I couldn't
figure out how the center of the earth could be situated on the surface
of a body of water. But if the Ducks didn't reach the center, readers
would feel cheated and sore and rightfully so.
I'll get them there somehow, with Wilmer Rivers' help. The
reason for going won't be "great riches"; I don't like for that to be
the motive for every single $crooge adventure, even if the roots of the
situation are based in his search for more moolah. And I'll find some
explanation for the existance of a tube through the turbulent liquid
outer core; it will be preposterous, but at least have a solid basis in
science -- which is a far cry from anything you'd see in those insulting
super-hero comics.
It would hardly do for the Ducks to decide to go to the center
of the Earth and then never get there. They even knew better than to
carry that idea from the Verne book over to the 1959 movie, and let
James Mason reach the center, even though even at age 8 I couldn't
figure out how the center of the earth could be situated on the surface
of a body of water. But if the Ducks didn't reach the center, readers
would feel cheated and sore and rightfully so.
I'll get them there somehow, with Wilmer Rivers' help. The
reason for going won't be "great riches"; I don't like for that to be
the motive for every single $crooge adventure, even if the roots of the
situation are based in his search for more moolah. And I'll find some
explanation for the existance of a tube through the turbulent liquid
outer core; it will be preposterous, but at least have a solid basis in
science -- which is a far cry from anything you'd see in those insulting
super-hero comics.
Don Rosa
Disney-comics digest #282.
Message 129 -
1994-03-28 at 17:38:12
JACK CHALKER'S "INFORMAL BIOGRAPHY OF $CROOGE McDUCK":
I certainly have this lil' booklet. And, asamatterafack, the
cover artist, Ron Miller< was visiting me last week and signed my copy.
The booklet is both a help and a hindrance. Jack did exactly
what I did -- take all the Barksian "facts" and construct a biography.
But what I used his book for were the footnotes. It was invaluable in
telling me in which stories were found all those many, many "facts",
which I then dug out, made notes on, and proceeded to construct my own
history, regardless of Jack's. The HINDRANCE comes from the very
puzzling fact that, even though Chalkers makes it quite clear that he
only uses Barks' stories as a source for his info, this is actually not
true at all! He uses ANY story that appears in U$ #1-71, regardless of
who wrote or drew the tale. I can't figure this out, but that's the
case. So I needed to weed out his many "FALSE facts". He also seemed to
ignore lots of stuff that did NOT happen to appear in U$ comics. One
might guess that he had the idea that the only $crooge stories that
Barks did were those in U$, and that someone had told him that Barks
wrote everything in the first 71 issues (though I assume he could see
there were different artists). I know the guy must have known better
than this, so I can't guess what was really going on here.
But I DO always have my Chalkers book near at hand, if only to
use the footnotes.
The other book that is never more than a foor from my elbow is
Mark Worden's similarly sized complete Barks index. It is SO much
handier than any other because it is simply an index and is
handbook-sized. I've never seen (nor really could there BE) a better
Barks handbook.
And is someone saying that Dwight Decker is here???
I certainly have this lil' booklet. And, asamatterafack, the
cover artist, Ron Miller< was visiting me last week and signed my copy.
The booklet is both a help and a hindrance. Jack did exactly
what I did -- take all the Barksian "facts" and construct a biography.
But what I used his book for were the footnotes. It was invaluable in
telling me in which stories were found all those many, many "facts",
which I then dug out, made notes on, and proceeded to construct my own
history, regardless of Jack's. The HINDRANCE comes from the very
puzzling fact that, even though Chalkers makes it quite clear that he
only uses Barks' stories as a source for his info, this is actually not
true at all! He uses ANY story that appears in U$ #1-71, regardless of
who wrote or drew the tale. I can't figure this out, but that's the
case. So I needed to weed out his many "FALSE facts". He also seemed to
ignore lots of stuff that did NOT happen to appear in U$ comics. One
might guess that he had the idea that the only $crooge stories that
Barks did were those in U$, and that someone had told him that Barks
wrote everything in the first 71 issues (though I assume he could see
there were different artists). I know the guy must have known better
than this, so I can't guess what was really going on here.
But I DO always have my Chalkers book near at hand, if only to
use the footnotes.
The other book that is never more than a foor from my elbow is
Mark Worden's similarly sized complete Barks index. It is SO much
handier than any other because it is simply an index and is
handbook-sized. I've never seen (nor really could there BE) a better
Barks handbook.
And is someone saying that Dwight Decker is here???
Don Rosa
Disney-comics digest #282.
Message 130 -
1994-03-28 at 17:38:27
"Foot"... not "foor".
Geir.Hasnes
The worse side of Don Rosas comics, part 1.
Message 131 -
1994-03-28 at 17:39:55
DAVID and FREDRIK
I have just begun cleaning up my email file and will have some answers for
you regarding Egmont stuff etc. In the main time, over to
DON
> Of course, your comments about my work, other than that story,
>continue to be rather... nice. (Do I send your monthly bribery check to
>the usual address?)
I will now and then bring my comics to work to go into irritating detail
about those stories you have made:
Son of the Sun.
I remember when I opened the comic - Gladstone subscribtion - and was
totally taken after a few glances. The pages literally exploded in my face,
and I do think that the visual strength of the airplane coming towards
Gladstone, the mountaintop exploding, and the treatment of the flight and
the mountain returning into the lake are about the best things I have ever
seen in a comic. I dont even think Barks has done as well as that, and I
wonder if you have since. Perfect timing and perfect perspectives, it flows
beautifully and with a tremendous musicality.
However, a question: Where did you find a reference to the treasure of King
Croesus (p. 3)? I assume that since you refer to other treasures on the
other pages of which I know the reference, this is also a reference. By the
way, since you are reading about and working with Croesus now, I assume
that you are already familiar with the History of Herodotus? There is a lot
about Croesus there.
The panels showing the flight on p. 9 always irritated me, because they
disturbed the else so realistic story. You were trying to do some visual
gags, and I dont think they function in that setting. Everything else is so
well explained and even believeable that these panels are more irritating
than they would have been had it just been an ordinary story. If you were
to reprint the story once more, I would ask you to redraw those two panels.
Nobodys Business
Wonderful story, with all the references one can think of to make it a
delight for a Barks quiz. It flows natural and even though a little crazy
it is almost perfectly believable.
I do need to remind you that Gladstone is reading a Mickey Mouse comic on
pages 1-2 and later a Pluto comic.
Is the flat cliff on p. 6 a reference, and in that case, which story? If it
wasnt, I would have opposed using it because it was the most unbelieveable
thing in the story. Not that Donald could have bought it, but 1) I dont
think it natural to have such a place in Duckburg, and 2) you always sell
an estate with horizontal measurement of the area to be sold.
The leaves-will-leave fertilizer would probably not have worked
instantaneously on _all_ the trees on p. 8. You probably went too fast
here, because you didnt wish to use too much time on one gag.
Of course you were right. Why didnt Barks think of it? Gladstone would be
the worst threat ever to Scrooge. Your ending is therefore splendid.
However, the visual gag with Gladstone in the last panel was lost in
Norway, they simply removed the G and did nothing to the dialogue.
Geir Hasnes
I have just begun cleaning up my email file and will have some answers for
you regarding Egmont stuff etc. In the main time, over to
DON
> Of course, your comments about my work, other than that story,
>continue to be rather... nice. (Do I send your monthly bribery check to
>the usual address?)
I will now and then bring my comics to work to go into irritating detail
about those stories you have made:
Son of the Sun.
I remember when I opened the comic - Gladstone subscribtion - and was
totally taken after a few glances. The pages literally exploded in my face,
and I do think that the visual strength of the airplane coming towards
Gladstone, the mountaintop exploding, and the treatment of the flight and
the mountain returning into the lake are about the best things I have ever
seen in a comic. I dont even think Barks has done as well as that, and I
wonder if you have since. Perfect timing and perfect perspectives, it flows
beautifully and with a tremendous musicality.
However, a question: Where did you find a reference to the treasure of King
Croesus (p. 3)? I assume that since you refer to other treasures on the
other pages of which I know the reference, this is also a reference. By the
way, since you are reading about and working with Croesus now, I assume
that you are already familiar with the History of Herodotus? There is a lot
about Croesus there.
The panels showing the flight on p. 9 always irritated me, because they
disturbed the else so realistic story. You were trying to do some visual
gags, and I dont think they function in that setting. Everything else is so
well explained and even believeable that these panels are more irritating
than they would have been had it just been an ordinary story. If you were
to reprint the story once more, I would ask you to redraw those two panels.
Nobodys Business
Wonderful story, with all the references one can think of to make it a
delight for a Barks quiz. It flows natural and even though a little crazy
it is almost perfectly believable.
I do need to remind you that Gladstone is reading a Mickey Mouse comic on
pages 1-2 and later a Pluto comic.
Is the flat cliff on p. 6 a reference, and in that case, which story? If it
wasnt, I would have opposed using it because it was the most unbelieveable
thing in the story. Not that Donald could have bought it, but 1) I dont
think it natural to have such a place in Duckburg, and 2) you always sell
an estate with horizontal measurement of the area to be sold.
The leaves-will-leave fertilizer would probably not have worked
instantaneously on _all_ the trees on p. 8. You probably went too fast
here, because you didnt wish to use too much time on one gag.
Of course you were right. Why didnt Barks think of it? Gladstone would be
the worst threat ever to Scrooge. Your ending is therefore splendid.
However, the visual gag with Gladstone in the last panel was lost in
Norway, they simply removed the G and did nothing to the dialogue.
Geir Hasnes
Mark Mayerson
Mark Worden's Barks index
Message 132 -
1994-03-28 at 18:20:22
I was unaware of Mark Worden's Barks index. Is it commercially available?
Is it better than the second part of the Mike Barrier book?
___________________________________________________________________
Mark Mayerson Side Effects Software Inc.,
Internet: mayerson at sidefx.com Toronto, Ontario, Canada
(416) 366-4607
Is it better than the second part of the Mike Barrier book?
___________________________________________________________________
Mark Mayerson Side Effects Software Inc.,
Internet: mayerson at sidefx.com Toronto, Ontario, Canada
(416) 366-4607
Fredrik Ekman
The worse side of Don Rosas comics, part 1.
Message 133 -
1994-03-28 at 19:57:19
Geir wrote, about Son of the Sun:
> The panels showing the flight on p. 9 always irritated me, because they
> disturbed the else so realistic story. You were trying to do some visual
> gags, and I dont think they function in that setting. Everything else is so
> well explained and even believeable that these panels are more irritating
> than they would have been had it just been an ordinary story. If you were
> to reprint the story once more, I would ask you to redraw those two panels.
Hmm... I never thought about that. I guess you're principally right, Geir
but I still don't think it's reason enough to change them. They don't
disturb me. Apart from that, I agree 100% with your analysis. "Son of the
Sun" (with the possible exception of "Return to Xanadu") is absolutely my
favourite Rosa.
/F
> The panels showing the flight on p. 9 always irritated me, because they
> disturbed the else so realistic story. You were trying to do some visual
> gags, and I dont think they function in that setting. Everything else is so
> well explained and even believeable that these panels are more irritating
> than they would have been had it just been an ordinary story. If you were
> to reprint the story once more, I would ask you to redraw those two panels.
Hmm... I never thought about that. I guess you're principally right, Geir
but I still don't think it's reason enough to change them. They don't
disturb me. Apart from that, I agree 100% with your analysis. "Son of the
Sun" (with the possible exception of "Return to Xanadu") is absolutely my
favourite Rosa.
/F
John M Baker
Disney-comics digest #279.
Message 134 -
1994-03-28 at 20:20:30
Don,
This is probably too off-the-wall to be of use to you, but there
used to be a quackball theory that the earth is doughnut-shaped, with
openings at the poles. One version of the theory had it that flying
saucers were from the people who live on the inside of the earth. The
basis for the theory is the supposed stability of the torus shape (though
I note that we haven't found any torus-shaped planets or asteroids so
far). Supposedly Hitler was a believer in the theory and sent a ship to
look for the opening; I don't know if this is true or not, so it probably
isn't.
By the way, it's nice to run into you again. I was one of your
tormenters when you were answering endless questions for the RBCC (the
specific one who asked for the WDC&S index, which probably left an
impression on you). I'm glad to see that you've gone on to fame if not
fortune. Your art was good then, but it really has become much better
than I ever would have guessed.
John M. Baker <jbaker at world.std.com> <72741.2710 at compuserve.com>
This is probably too off-the-wall to be of use to you, but there
used to be a quackball theory that the earth is doughnut-shaped, with
openings at the poles. One version of the theory had it that flying
saucers were from the people who live on the inside of the earth. The
basis for the theory is the supposed stability of the torus shape (though
I note that we haven't found any torus-shaped planets or asteroids so
far). Supposedly Hitler was a believer in the theory and sent a ship to
look for the opening; I don't know if this is true or not, so it probably
isn't.
By the way, it's nice to run into you again. I was one of your
tormenters when you were answering endless questions for the RBCC (the
specific one who asked for the WDC&S index, which probably left an
impression on you). I'm glad to see that you've gone on to fame if not
fortune. Your art was good then, but it really has become much better
than I ever would have guessed.
John M. Baker <jbaker at world.std.com> <72741.2710 at compuserve.com>
Adair_t
The Disney Gopher!
Message 135 -
1994-03-29 at 07:09:53
Since my New Zealand account does not allow me to FTP, I have had to
adopt the New Zealand attitude of using only what was available to me.
Therefore, I entered the Wellington City Council Gopher (highly recommended!),
gophered to Minnesota, selected the "all the gophers in the world", and then
selected the following menu choices. (Each one of these lines is a separate
menu screen.)
5 Europe
35 Sweden
9 Lysator Computer Society, Linkoping University, (SE)/
12 ...Search and find information (gopher, ftp, ...)/
5 Ta en titt i Lysator FTP-arkiv/
8 pub
11 comics
1 disney
After selecting "disney", you should get a menu listing 25 files. If you want
to read the file, type the number and hit return. To save the file, mail the
file, or quit, type "Q", hit return, then select one of the options at the
bottom of the screen.
I mailed the Don Rosa list to myself. It arrived in less than a minute, and
was easy to read. I know will try and find the various issues.
Torsten Adair adair_t at kosmos.wcc.govt.nz Wellington, New Zealand
adopt the New Zealand attitude of using only what was available to me.
Therefore, I entered the Wellington City Council Gopher (highly recommended!),
gophered to Minnesota, selected the "all the gophers in the world", and then
selected the following menu choices. (Each one of these lines is a separate
menu screen.)
5 Europe
35 Sweden
9 Lysator Computer Society, Linkoping University, (SE)/
12 ...Search and find information (gopher, ftp, ...)/
5 Ta en titt i Lysator FTP-arkiv/
8 pub
11 comics
1 disney
After selecting "disney", you should get a menu listing 25 files. If you want
to read the file, type the number and hit return. To save the file, mail the
file, or quit, type "Q", hit return, then select one of the options at the
bottom of the screen.
I mailed the Don Rosa list to myself. It arrived in less than a minute, and
was easy to read. I know will try and find the various issues.
Torsten Adair adair_t at kosmos.wcc.govt.nz Wellington, New Zealand