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1994-05-01 at 01:44:11
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Fredrik Ekman
Disney-comics digest #312.
Message 2 -
1994-05-01 at 04:17:32
Sigurdur wrote:
> What artist?
> Who was the artist who did the motorcar story 2 issues ago? Something
> about Donald renting a bigger car to impress Daisy. Was it
> the same one who did the "Donald as a Pizza delivery man" story?
> Kinda weird, that rubbery style he uses.
Ah, you're talking about William Van Horn. He is in my opinion definitely
one of the top Duck artists today, even though everyone doesn't quite
agree that he's up to Don's standards... ;-)
There's a Van Horn index which lists more or less all his stories that
have been published in the US, Holland and Scandinavia. You should be
able to find a lot of the stories published in Iceland by looking in the
Scandinavian column and do some guess-work from there.
And while on the subject; twice before I have asked for "please more info
about WVH, someone" and have been met by a more or less complete silence.
What's the matter with you guys? I thought you knew everything. Is there
really noone who can tell me a little of where WVH lives, how old he is,
his background in and out of comics, how he came to work with Gladstone,
et c, et c, et c? Or at least point me to other sources.
/F
> What artist?
> Who was the artist who did the motorcar story 2 issues ago? Something
> about Donald renting a bigger car to impress Daisy. Was it
> the same one who did the "Donald as a Pizza delivery man" story?
> Kinda weird, that rubbery style he uses.
Ah, you're talking about William Van Horn. He is in my opinion definitely
one of the top Duck artists today, even though everyone doesn't quite
agree that he's up to Don's standards... ;-)
There's a Van Horn index which lists more or less all his stories that
have been published in the US, Holland and Scandinavia. You should be
able to find a lot of the stories published in Iceland by looking in the
Scandinavian column and do some guess-work from there.
And while on the subject; twice before I have asked for "please more info
about WVH, someone" and have been met by a more or less complete silence.
What's the matter with you guys? I thought you knew everything. Is there
really noone who can tell me a little of where WVH lives, how old he is,
his background in and out of comics, how he came to work with Gladstone,
et c, et c, et c? Or at least point me to other sources.
/F
Ronald A. Evry (Ronald)
Disney-comics digest #314.
Message 3 -
1994-05-01 at 04:57:41
Since I brought up Dan O'Neill in the first place, I should
also mention that "The Mouse" (we won't exactly call him Mickey
here, because he wasn't ... not quite, anyway) makes a very
important appearence in "The Collective Unconscience of Odd
Bodkins." (1973, Chronicle Publishing)
Oneill was (at the time) the youngest artist doin the US doing
a nationally syndicated strip. They are really quite clever,
and his work was a seminal influence on Bobby London, Ted
Richards, Trina Robbins, Sherry Flenniken and the late Willy
Murphy. I even see some influence on Van Horn's non-duck stuff.
Then there was "Dan O'Neill's Comic and Stories." I'll see if I
can dig some out of my basement and let you all in on the stuff.
There was more than just "porno" versions of Disney characters
rolling off of his pen. He truly breathed life into his
lampoons, much more so than any Mouse artist since Iwerks or
Gottfriedson.
Ron
also mention that "The Mouse" (we won't exactly call him Mickey
here, because he wasn't ... not quite, anyway) makes a very
important appearence in "The Collective Unconscience of Odd
Bodkins." (1973, Chronicle Publishing)
Oneill was (at the time) the youngest artist doin the US doing
a nationally syndicated strip. They are really quite clever,
and his work was a seminal influence on Bobby London, Ted
Richards, Trina Robbins, Sherry Flenniken and the late Willy
Murphy. I even see some influence on Van Horn's non-duck stuff.
Then there was "Dan O'Neill's Comic and Stories." I'll see if I
can dig some out of my basement and let you all in on the stuff.
There was more than just "porno" versions of Disney characters
rolling off of his pen. He truly breathed life into his
lampoons, much more so than any Mouse artist since Iwerks or
Gottfriedson.
Ron
David A Gerstein
Disney-comics digest #316.
Message 4 -
1994-05-02 at 02:33:07
Dear Folks,
Fredrik Ekman commented that "twice before I have asked for
"please more info about WVH, someone" and have been met by a more or
less complete silence. What's the matter with you guys? I thought
you knew everything."
I actually know next to nothing about Van Horn. From rumors I
have heard, this may be a case like Barks where you can admire the
work, but not its creator's current goals ($$$$ even when it puts
others at a loss).
I'm sorry... perhaps I opened my bill too far.
BTW, to the van-horn index we can add a cover to THE DUCKBURG
TIMES #24/25, late in '92. It illustrates their "Special DuckTales
Issue" (that's the title of the cover) and shows Scrooge's top hat and
cane, Launchpad's goggles, and (AAACK!) Webby's Quacky Patch Kid doll
posed as if on display in a museum.
No ducks are actually visible -- unlike its rival THE BARKS
COLLECTOR, TDT does not have permission (at least not any more) to
actually show Disney characters in anything other than silhouette.
* * * * *
On another tack: How much are Barks pencil sketches worth? I
own the original sketch to the painting "Snow Fun" -- it's about a 12"
by 7" picture of Donald with sled, full frontal view, drawn on tracing
paper and signed by Barks. NO, I DO NOT AIM TO SELL IT!!! I'm just
interested in getting it professionally matted and framed and would
like to insure it first.
You can E-Mail me with the answer, if you know. Barks' agents
told me it was worth a heck of a lot when I met them at the San Diego
Comic Con, but from what I've heard since, their opinion isn't worth a
custard pie. (I bet if I had told them that this was a drawing of
Fethry, they wouldn't have known the difference.)
Your friend,
David Gerstein
<David.A.Gerstein at Williams.edu>
Fredrik Ekman commented that "twice before I have asked for
"please more info about WVH, someone" and have been met by a more or
less complete silence. What's the matter with you guys? I thought
you knew everything."
I actually know next to nothing about Van Horn. From rumors I
have heard, this may be a case like Barks where you can admire the
work, but not its creator's current goals ($$$$ even when it puts
others at a loss).
I'm sorry... perhaps I opened my bill too far.
BTW, to the van-horn index we can add a cover to THE DUCKBURG
TIMES #24/25, late in '92. It illustrates their "Special DuckTales
Issue" (that's the title of the cover) and shows Scrooge's top hat and
cane, Launchpad's goggles, and (AAACK!) Webby's Quacky Patch Kid doll
posed as if on display in a museum.
No ducks are actually visible -- unlike its rival THE BARKS
COLLECTOR, TDT does not have permission (at least not any more) to
actually show Disney characters in anything other than silhouette.
* * * * *
On another tack: How much are Barks pencil sketches worth? I
own the original sketch to the painting "Snow Fun" -- it's about a 12"
by 7" picture of Donald with sled, full frontal view, drawn on tracing
paper and signed by Barks. NO, I DO NOT AIM TO SELL IT!!! I'm just
interested in getting it professionally matted and framed and would
like to insure it first.
You can E-Mail me with the answer, if you know. Barks' agents
told me it was worth a heck of a lot when I met them at the San Diego
Comic Con, but from what I've heard since, their opinion isn't worth a
custard pie. (I bet if I had told them that this was a drawing of
Fethry, they wouldn't have known the difference.)
Your friend,
David Gerstein
<David.A.Gerstein at Williams.edu>
Don Rosa
Disney-comics digest #315.
Message 5 -
1994-05-02 at 06:04:53
TRYG:
No, Marvel doesn't distribute its own comics on a national basis
(i.e. newsstands, other public places). Local distribution companies
(i.e.: the Mafia) has charge of that.
Actually, the system may have been different back in the 50s...
I would be surprised if Dell didn't control its own distribution
somehow, but I think DC was owned by a company that distributed
periodicals, and that was the reason why, in 1956, Marvel/Atlas was
forced to cut back from publishing about 100 titles to about 6 --
because they were limited to that many by their competitor.
No, Marvel doesn't distribute its own comics on a national basis
(i.e. newsstands, other public places). Local distribution companies
(i.e.: the Mafia) has charge of that.
Actually, the system may have been different back in the 50s...
I would be surprised if Dell didn't control its own distribution
somehow, but I think DC was owned by a company that distributed
periodicals, and that was the reason why, in 1956, Marvel/Atlas was
forced to cut back from publishing about 100 titles to about 6 --
because they were limited to that many by their competitor.
Don Rosa
Disney-comics digest #316.
Message 6 -
1994-05-02 at 06:09:42
SIGURDUR:
The artist who drew the story in the Egmont issues of a few
weeks back about Donald and Gladstone renting super-large cars was
Freddy Milton. The code number in the splash-panel indicates it was a
story he did for Oberon (Holland) in 1982.
The artist who drew the story in the Egmont issues of a few
weeks back about Donald and Gladstone renting super-large cars was
Freddy Milton. The code number in the splash-panel indicates it was a
story he did for Oberon (Holland) in 1982.
Harry Fluks
Tryg
Message 7 -
1994-05-02 at 11:43:14
Tryg said a while ago:
> When I first started posting messages, I noticed that some regulars were
> rather quick to jump on me when I said something in error. These same
> folks would basically ignore anything else I had to say. So if you
> want a response, just bait your message with a few boo boo's. (Bad
> breath is better than no breath...)
I regard myself a "regular" and I couldn't remember any of this. So I re-read
some of the old digests where you came in. It appears to me the only
"error" we corrected was the missing letters in your signature. But only after
10 of your letters we mentioned that.
Most of your questions were answered elaborately (even when we discussed the
matter before), so I can't figure out why you have the impression that we
"ignored anything else you said".
*Maybe* you didn't get answers to all your questions (like Fredrik didn't
get an answer to his Van Horn questions), but that's because people don't
usually post messages merely saying "I don't know".
Apparently, sometimes e-mail gives you a wrong impression of the intentions
of the sender. But always think positive. If a mailer seems rude, blame it
on his/her problems with the English language, or on the fact that you can't
express everything by e-mail.
So, lurkers: send in messages if you want! Or keep lurking, IF for the right
reason.
But don't unsubscribe because you feel you have to contribute! And don't
keep silent because you are impressed by all those "know-alls".
--Harry.
Harry PTT Research ()_() Dutch Disney comics freak
Fluks Leidschendam (_) H.W.Fluks at research.ptt.nl
"Yeah... I've _heard_ of coral barques!"
P.S. one of the questions *I* never got answered: what is April, May and
June's *second* appearance? And when/where did they get their names?
> When I first started posting messages, I noticed that some regulars were
> rather quick to jump on me when I said something in error. These same
> folks would basically ignore anything else I had to say. So if you
> want a response, just bait your message with a few boo boo's. (Bad
> breath is better than no breath...)
I regard myself a "regular" and I couldn't remember any of this. So I re-read
some of the old digests where you came in. It appears to me the only
"error" we corrected was the missing letters in your signature. But only after
10 of your letters we mentioned that.
Most of your questions were answered elaborately (even when we discussed the
matter before), so I can't figure out why you have the impression that we
"ignored anything else you said".
*Maybe* you didn't get answers to all your questions (like Fredrik didn't
get an answer to his Van Horn questions), but that's because people don't
usually post messages merely saying "I don't know".
Apparently, sometimes e-mail gives you a wrong impression of the intentions
of the sender. But always think positive. If a mailer seems rude, blame it
on his/her problems with the English language, or on the fact that you can't
express everything by e-mail.
So, lurkers: send in messages if you want! Or keep lurking, IF for the right
reason.
But don't unsubscribe because you feel you have to contribute! And don't
keep silent because you are impressed by all those "know-alls".
--Harry.
Harry PTT Research ()_() Dutch Disney comics freak
Fluks Leidschendam (_) H.W.Fluks at research.ptt.nl
"Yeah... I've _heard_ of coral barques!"
P.S. one of the questions *I* never got answered: what is April, May and
June's *second* appearance? And when/where did they get their names?
David A Gerstein
April, May, and June
Message 8 -
1994-05-03 at 04:47:42
Dear Folks,
Harry pointed out "one of the questions *I* never got
answered: what is April, May and June's *second* appearance? And when/
where did they get their names?"
The _Comic Book Price Guide_, for years now, has listed a
Giant called DAISY DUCK AND UNCLE $CROOGE SHOWTIME as being the FIRST
appearance of the nieces. It's from 1960, I believe. This is Kjell
Crone's index for that comic (no mention of the nieces here):
W Gia 33 FC 1 US+DA TS Bill and butterfly
W Gia 33 01 16 DA+US TS PICNIC TIME KA 613102
W Gia 33 02 10 GG JB BAD DEED CLUB'S ANNUAL PICNIC
W Gia 33 03 6 CD PM BEAR BAGGERS KA 612003
W Gia 33 04 6 GD AH DOING THE TOWN KA 613005
W Gia 33 05 10 GO JB THE BIG CARVE KA 612404
W Gia 33 06 10 DD AH THE SONG SEARCHERS KA 611701
W Gia 33 07 6 PL JB THE DANCING DOG KA 612002
W Gia 33 08 8 DA+US AH HAVE PENCIL,WILL TRAVEL KA 613503
My guess is that this may be the first time that the nieces
were NAMED, leading to the confusion in Overstreet's guide. I
actually do not recall the nieces being addressed by name in the
earlier DDD issue in which they appeared (in a single story, "A Sticky
Situation").
The idea of pairing Daisy and Scrooge has to be one of the
weirder ones, although the single one drawn by Barks (the one in which
she takes over for Scrooge when he gets stuck in his "money chute") is
pretty good, particularly when you realize he didn't write it.
That's my 0.02. I can't really contribute anything else,
because I don't collect late-1950's Dells... I prefer to buy the 1940s
ones, simply because I prefer the non-Barks stories of that era to the
later non-Barks stories.
Yours,
David Gerstein
"Uncle Scrooge was his usual charming self!"
<David.A.Gerstein at Williams.edu>
Harry pointed out "one of the questions *I* never got
answered: what is April, May and June's *second* appearance? And when/
where did they get their names?"
The _Comic Book Price Guide_, for years now, has listed a
Giant called DAISY DUCK AND UNCLE $CROOGE SHOWTIME as being the FIRST
appearance of the nieces. It's from 1960, I believe. This is Kjell
Crone's index for that comic (no mention of the nieces here):
W Gia 33 FC 1 US+DA TS Bill and butterfly
W Gia 33 01 16 DA+US TS PICNIC TIME KA 613102
W Gia 33 02 10 GG JB BAD DEED CLUB'S ANNUAL PICNIC
W Gia 33 03 6 CD PM BEAR BAGGERS KA 612003
W Gia 33 04 6 GD AH DOING THE TOWN KA 613005
W Gia 33 05 10 GO JB THE BIG CARVE KA 612404
W Gia 33 06 10 DD AH THE SONG SEARCHERS KA 611701
W Gia 33 07 6 PL JB THE DANCING DOG KA 612002
W Gia 33 08 8 DA+US AH HAVE PENCIL,WILL TRAVEL KA 613503
My guess is that this may be the first time that the nieces
were NAMED, leading to the confusion in Overstreet's guide. I
actually do not recall the nieces being addressed by name in the
earlier DDD issue in which they appeared (in a single story, "A Sticky
Situation").
The idea of pairing Daisy and Scrooge has to be one of the
weirder ones, although the single one drawn by Barks (the one in which
she takes over for Scrooge when he gets stuck in his "money chute") is
pretty good, particularly when you realize he didn't write it.
That's my 0.02. I can't really contribute anything else,
because I don't collect late-1950's Dells... I prefer to buy the 1940s
ones, simply because I prefer the non-Barks stories of that era to the
later non-Barks stories.
Yours,
David Gerstein
"Uncle Scrooge was his usual charming self!"
<David.A.Gerstein at Williams.edu>
Tryg Helseth
Trigger the Terrible
Message 9 -
1994-05-03 at 05:39:54
HARRY:
>Tryg said a while ago:
>> When I first started posting messages, I noticed that some regulars were
>> rather quick to jump on me when I said something in error. These same
>> folks would basically ignore anything else I had to say. So if you
>> want a response, just bait your message with a few boo boo's. (Bad
>> breath is better than no breath...)
>
>I regard myself a "regular" and I couldn't remember any of this. So I re-read
>some of the old digests where you came in. It appears to me the only
>"error" we corrected was the missing letters in your signature. But only after
>10 of your letters we mentioned that.
You know, I wasn't even thinking about that...I'm suprised you let it go so
long... :)
>Most of your questions were answered elaborately (even when we discussed the
>matter before), so I can't figure out why you have the impression that we
>"ignored anything else you said".
I went back and re-read that post I quoted. Nowhere in that message did
I say that my questions went unanswered. In fact, I think that is one of
the real strengths of this mail-list is that you CAN get answers to
questions that you won't get elsewhere.
In passage quoted above, I was referring to some specific incidents I
remembered at the time; re-reading that now it seems I overstated the
case. I was thinking of when I had entered some lengthy replies to
questions others had asked. On several occasions I did not get any
acknowledgement of that answer from the person who asked the question.
Some of those answers required a bit of effort and some research on my
part. (I can think of two of these incidents off hand--I'll leave it to
you, Harry, to search the archives to figure out what they are...:) ) Ok,
maybe my expectations are out of whack! Just because I try to thank people
who answer my questions, why should I expect the same in return?
>Apparently, sometimes e-mail gives you a wrong impression of the intentions
>of the sender. But always think positive. If a mailer seems rude, blame it
>on his/her problems with the English language, or on the fact that you can't
>express everything by e-mail.
I do agree with that. I do try to ignore what appears to be rudeness from
a mailer if it happens once or twice; after that, however, I start to
think that maybe it is rudeness. When it coincidentally happens from more
that one person at the same time then I really get paranoid!
-Trigger the Terrible
>Tryg said a while ago:
>> When I first started posting messages, I noticed that some regulars were
>> rather quick to jump on me when I said something in error. These same
>> folks would basically ignore anything else I had to say. So if you
>> want a response, just bait your message with a few boo boo's. (Bad
>> breath is better than no breath...)
>
>I regard myself a "regular" and I couldn't remember any of this. So I re-read
>some of the old digests where you came in. It appears to me the only
>"error" we corrected was the missing letters in your signature. But only after
>10 of your letters we mentioned that.
You know, I wasn't even thinking about that...I'm suprised you let it go so
long... :)
>Most of your questions were answered elaborately (even when we discussed the
>matter before), so I can't figure out why you have the impression that we
>"ignored anything else you said".
I went back and re-read that post I quoted. Nowhere in that message did
I say that my questions went unanswered. In fact, I think that is one of
the real strengths of this mail-list is that you CAN get answers to
questions that you won't get elsewhere.
In passage quoted above, I was referring to some specific incidents I
remembered at the time; re-reading that now it seems I overstated the
case. I was thinking of when I had entered some lengthy replies to
questions others had asked. On several occasions I did not get any
acknowledgement of that answer from the person who asked the question.
Some of those answers required a bit of effort and some research on my
part. (I can think of two of these incidents off hand--I'll leave it to
you, Harry, to search the archives to figure out what they are...:) ) Ok,
maybe my expectations are out of whack! Just because I try to thank people
who answer my questions, why should I expect the same in return?
>Apparently, sometimes e-mail gives you a wrong impression of the intentions
>of the sender. But always think positive. If a mailer seems rude, blame it
>on his/her problems with the English language, or on the fact that you can't
>express everything by e-mail.
I do agree with that. I do try to ignore what appears to be rudeness from
a mailer if it happens once or twice; after that, however, I start to
think that maybe it is rudeness. When it coincidentally happens from more
that one person at the same time then I really get paranoid!
-Trigger the Terrible
Tryg Helseth
Marvelous Distribution
Message 10 -
1994-05-03 at 05:40:30
DON:
> No, Marvel doesn't distribute its own comics on a national basis
>(i.e. newsstands, other public places). Local distribution companies
>(i.e.: the Mafia) has charge of that.
The Mafia, eh? I suppose the LA gangs will be taking it over soon... :)
> Actually, the system may have been different back in the 50s...
>I would be surprised if Dell didn't control its own distribution
>somehow, but I think DC was owned by a company that distributed
>periodicals, and that was the reason why, in 1956, Marvel/Atlas was
>forced to cut back from publishing about 100 titles to about 6 --
>because they were limited to that many by their competitor.
Was that National Periodicals back then? Dell must have had some kind of
control to keep DC from squeezing them out, unless they didn't consider
them to be competition. There must have been a good reason why Western
Publishing went with Dell for distributing their comics and stuck with them
all those years... Then again, something must have changed in the '60s for
Western to do their own distribution.
Tryg
> No, Marvel doesn't distribute its own comics on a national basis
>(i.e. newsstands, other public places). Local distribution companies
>(i.e.: the Mafia) has charge of that.
The Mafia, eh? I suppose the LA gangs will be taking it over soon... :)
> Actually, the system may have been different back in the 50s...
>I would be surprised if Dell didn't control its own distribution
>somehow, but I think DC was owned by a company that distributed
>periodicals, and that was the reason why, in 1956, Marvel/Atlas was
>forced to cut back from publishing about 100 titles to about 6 --
>because they were limited to that many by their competitor.
Was that National Periodicals back then? Dell must have had some kind of
control to keep DC from squeezing them out, unless they didn't consider
them to be competition. There must have been a good reason why Western
Publishing went with Dell for distributing their comics and stuck with them
all those years... Then again, something must have changed in the '60s for
Western to do their own distribution.
Tryg
Ajd105
WVH
Message 11 -
1994-05-03 at 07:18:18
Hi everyone. I saw a question about William Van Horn. I can list a few
pre-Disney works of his. Can anyone add to my list, or maybe tell us
something about the man himself?
Children's Books: A Picnic with Bert
The Wibbly Wobbly Boat Ride
These two books (there may be more) concern the adventures of Fred,
Charley and Bert, 3 dinosaurs. My 3 year-old daughter just loves them. I
don't mind them myself. :-)
Comics: Nervous Rex 1-10
I bought these as a set for $2 once. They are a series about a rather
wimpy Tyranasaurous and his domineering wife. They aren't too bad, but
not my favourite VH stuff.
Tracker 1 and 2 (of 4) Blackthorne
These are just wonderful! It is a real pity 3 and 4 never came out :(
Even so, if you see them, get them. Anthropomorphic cats in a Bogart
type detective story. These stories are so good you can lend them to non
comics reading friends without embarrasment...
Contributions to Critters (assorted numbers 1-40 or so)
Short "funny animal" stories. Some of these are just as good as Tracker
(esp the Ratso and Maxie ones). These comics also have the advantage
that some of them contain some excellent Fred Milton stories.
You may discern from the above that I have made an effort to track down
VH's work somewhat. I'd love to know if there was more I've missed. From
the dedication to one of the kid's books, I conclude he was schooled in
Canada, but more I can't say. I first saw his work in his story with
Donald as a bugle salesman for "Blitzkreig Bugles". That one joke, plus
the guy that juggled rocks with the bandaged toes, made me a fan. Ok,
I'm easily amused. :-)
Andrew Davies
P.S. Some day I'll tell you about my quest to track down the only copy of
U$219 in Melbourne. I was a Don Rosa fan _before_ I ever saw any of his
work.
pre-Disney works of his. Can anyone add to my list, or maybe tell us
something about the man himself?
Children's Books: A Picnic with Bert
The Wibbly Wobbly Boat Ride
These two books (there may be more) concern the adventures of Fred,
Charley and Bert, 3 dinosaurs. My 3 year-old daughter just loves them. I
don't mind them myself. :-)
Comics: Nervous Rex 1-10
I bought these as a set for $2 once. They are a series about a rather
wimpy Tyranasaurous and his domineering wife. They aren't too bad, but
not my favourite VH stuff.
Tracker 1 and 2 (of 4) Blackthorne
These are just wonderful! It is a real pity 3 and 4 never came out :(
Even so, if you see them, get them. Anthropomorphic cats in a Bogart
type detective story. These stories are so good you can lend them to non
comics reading friends without embarrasment...
Contributions to Critters (assorted numbers 1-40 or so)
Short "funny animal" stories. Some of these are just as good as Tracker
(esp the Ratso and Maxie ones). These comics also have the advantage
that some of them contain some excellent Fred Milton stories.
You may discern from the above that I have made an effort to track down
VH's work somewhat. I'd love to know if there was more I've missed. From
the dedication to one of the kid's books, I conclude he was schooled in
Canada, but more I can't say. I first saw his work in his story with
Donald as a bugle salesman for "Blitzkreig Bugles". That one joke, plus
the guy that juggled rocks with the bandaged toes, made me a fan. Ok,
I'm easily amused. :-)
Andrew Davies
P.S. Some day I'll tell you about my quest to track down the only copy of
U$219 in Melbourne. I was a Don Rosa fan _before_ I ever saw any of his
work.
Don Rosa
Disney-comics digest #317.
Message 12 -
1994-05-03 at 07:44:25
HARRY:
Had you asked that question before? Another reason questions
might get ignored is that one doesn't SEE them.
April, May and June? On checking, I see that these characters
(first appearing in Barks' great "Flipism" story in 1953) made so very
few appearances that I wonder how I ever knew who they were. At a
glance, I see them used only 4 times by Barks... in addition to the
Flipism tale, he used them in the two DAISY DUCK'S DIARY - FOUR COLORs
#1055 & 1150, in 1959 & 1960, not naming them until #1150. But Barks
did not WRITE these stories. Was his use of them in #1055 what the
scripter had in mind, or did Barks just dig the obscure Daisy-nieces
out of the back of his mind when the script called for dates for HD&L,
as the girls were in 1953? And WHO named them in #1150? The anonymous
scripter, I assume? And the 4th use I can find them used is in WDC&S
#308, in Barks' penultimate Donald ten-pager where he redefines Daisy
for future use (as he also reshaped Gladstone in the next issue, even
though he only used the two one last time in WDC&S #312 in his final
ten-pager).
Were there other uses? Now I can't even figure out how I ever
knew these characters since I don't think any of these four comics were
ones that I ever had as a youth.
Had you asked that question before? Another reason questions
might get ignored is that one doesn't SEE them.
April, May and June? On checking, I see that these characters
(first appearing in Barks' great "Flipism" story in 1953) made so very
few appearances that I wonder how I ever knew who they were. At a
glance, I see them used only 4 times by Barks... in addition to the
Flipism tale, he used them in the two DAISY DUCK'S DIARY - FOUR COLORs
#1055 & 1150, in 1959 & 1960, not naming them until #1150. But Barks
did not WRITE these stories. Was his use of them in #1055 what the
scripter had in mind, or did Barks just dig the obscure Daisy-nieces
out of the back of his mind when the script called for dates for HD&L,
as the girls were in 1953? And WHO named them in #1150? The anonymous
scripter, I assume? And the 4th use I can find them used is in WDC&S
#308, in Barks' penultimate Donald ten-pager where he redefines Daisy
for future use (as he also reshaped Gladstone in the next issue, even
though he only used the two one last time in WDC&S #312 in his final
ten-pager).
Were there other uses? Now I can't even figure out how I ever
knew these characters since I don't think any of these four comics were
ones that I ever had as a youth.
Per Starback
Pros and Cons
Message 13 -
1994-05-03 at 16:17:18
Don wrote:
> Yes, I'll be at the cons in Europe I mentioned.
Have I got them all?
Frankfurt and Erlangen May 30--June 6.
Book and library fair in Gothenburg October 26--30.
Something in Oslo???
Alvsjo outside Stockholm November 5--6.
> I might swear off American cons like in Oakland, however. [...]
Do as you wish, but if you go to them anyway please tell us about it
beforehand! That might increase the number of duck fans there.
In the COMIX mailing list I read about a comics festival in Zurich
April 30--May 23, and one of the artists there is Ulrich Schroeder
(May 7--8) who has done some Disney work, so I added it too to the
"upcoming" file.
I've also updated the entries on Barks's stay in Sweden there. Before
it seemed like Swedish fans would get no opportunity at all to see
Barks during his visit here, but things have changed and NAFS(k) will
be allowed to arrange a public meeting with Barks Sunday June 19.
More information on this meeting will be sent out to NAFS(k) members
later. I think it's hard to think of any questions I'd like to ask
Barks. It seems like I've already seen him answer every question I
could think of that I would be interested in his answer for.
What will happen in all the other countries Barks will visit? At the
NAFS(k) annual meeting recently I heard something about a panel
discussion (?) and other stuff in Norway, but I don't remember exactly
what I heard. I think Geir was involved in it though. Could you tell
us more about this, Geir?
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at minsk.docs.uu.se
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
> Yes, I'll be at the cons in Europe I mentioned.
Have I got them all?
Frankfurt and Erlangen May 30--June 6.
Book and library fair in Gothenburg October 26--30.
Something in Oslo???
Alvsjo outside Stockholm November 5--6.
> I might swear off American cons like in Oakland, however. [...]
Do as you wish, but if you go to them anyway please tell us about it
beforehand! That might increase the number of duck fans there.
In the COMIX mailing list I read about a comics festival in Zurich
April 30--May 23, and one of the artists there is Ulrich Schroeder
(May 7--8) who has done some Disney work, so I added it too to the
"upcoming" file.
I've also updated the entries on Barks's stay in Sweden there. Before
it seemed like Swedish fans would get no opportunity at all to see
Barks during his visit here, but things have changed and NAFS(k) will
be allowed to arrange a public meeting with Barks Sunday June 19.
More information on this meeting will be sent out to NAFS(k) members
later. I think it's hard to think of any questions I'd like to ask
Barks. It seems like I've already seen him answer every question I
could think of that I would be interested in his answer for.
What will happen in all the other countries Barks will visit? At the
NAFS(k) annual meeting recently I heard something about a panel
discussion (?) and other stuff in Norway, but I don't remember exactly
what I heard. I think Geir was involved in it though. Could you tell
us more about this, Geir?
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at minsk.docs.uu.se
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
Mikko Henri Juhani Aittola
Disney-comics digest #314.
Message 14 -
1994-05-03 at 23:28:15
Don wrote:
> There's no reason to mention anything to your Finnish Egmont
> branch about the coloring of their comics.
> Your publisher has no control over those colors -- if the color is good
> or bad in one Egmont country, it will be identicle in ALL Egmont
> countries
I know that coloring is done by Egmont, but maybe they might improve
it if people keeps complaining enough. Aku Ankka's (Donald
Duck) circulation here in Finland is about 300 000 (and here lives
only about 5 million people) so I could imagine that our publisher
could make at least a soft kick to Egmonts butt.
I just bought Walt Disney's Donald and $crooge TPB. The
colouring is wonderful compared to Egmont's.
So our publisher sents you 'NIL' copies of Aku Ankka. Maybe
you could trade subscription for interview or something.
/Mikko
> There's no reason to mention anything to your Finnish Egmont
> branch about the coloring of their comics.
> Your publisher has no control over those colors -- if the color is good
> or bad in one Egmont country, it will be identicle in ALL Egmont
> countries
I know that coloring is done by Egmont, but maybe they might improve
it if people keeps complaining enough. Aku Ankka's (Donald
Duck) circulation here in Finland is about 300 000 (and here lives
only about 5 million people) so I could imagine that our publisher
could make at least a soft kick to Egmonts butt.
I just bought Walt Disney's Donald and $crooge TPB. The
colouring is wonderful compared to Egmont's.
So our publisher sents you 'NIL' copies of Aku Ankka. Maybe
you could trade subscription for interview or something.
/Mikko
Ben Leavell
No subject
Message 15 -
1994-05-04 at 00:51:19
Jane,How do Iget on this thing