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Even Flood
On 26 Sep 1994, Don Rosa wrote:

> ......So, lots of people, mostly/enturely in Europe/Scandanavia,
> see every message I put into the Digest, but they are unable to reply or
> send a comment to me or the Digest?
> And do you suppose they all know that and don't try? Or do you
> suppose lots of people are constantly sending me/us comments and are
> puzzled/pissed that we refuse/decline to/two respond/answer.
> I/me started/began to/too get/become carried/toted away/off
> with/avec that/this slash/stroke business/bizniz.
>

Don!

Relax, I do not think it is of great importance, and that
all the true fans are here on the list. The fact that all traffic is on this
list and not on the newsnet indicates that most of the ones interested
realizes what is going on and where the Action is.

Actually, it might mean that I am the only one reading the Newsnet
list (and that because I am too lazy to delete it). It is sort of
surprizing that there is no activity on its own there.

Even
Norris
Please stop this mail :-)
Norrisnw
Don Rosa
EVEN:
Uh... should I ask what would go on in this
"rec.arts.Disney.roleplaying" section... or would it sicken me to know?
The first idea that pops into my head is women going on-line, pretending
they're Ariel or Cinderella or Baby Minnie. Say it ain't so.
Knut Hunstad
Just a few (?) words about rec.arts.disney for those who now are curious:

r.a.d. is a newsgroup for disney-fans. The main topics discussed are: movies
and theme parks and the Disney concerns goings on. In addition there is the
FDC, the Future Disney Cabinet. This is a more or less inside joke on this
newgroup. People take on an imaginative position they would like to have in
an imaginative Future Disney Company. Then they try to act according to that
position. This has lately mostly grown into a roleplaying game between
FDC-ers with "walkaround-character"-positions from the animated features.
Some people at r.a.d. want to split the group up because there are so many
messages each day (sometimes 100+ a day!).

When I first found this group I was active for a while. But now I only
browse through the messages and read the ones that seem interesting with
regard to the subject line. Doesn't take me long to do this and I really
can't see any reason that this group should be split. I think much of the
charm on r.a.d. are these FDC messages. Now if only they could stop
discussing a split they would reduce the message load by about 25%!

As you probably understand by now, I _do_ like Disney's animated work and
also the theme parks. I have no problem understanding the irony often used
when some people talk about the parks. But when I go there I simply
disconnect the real world and have a good time. And I think that's what it's
all about.

I must admit I haven't had the same enthusiasm for the newer movies
(Aladdin, Beaty & Beast etc.) as for the older ones. The Jungle Book is my
all time favourite. But I blame that more on my own hang to think back at
the "good old days" than the movies themselves...

> Uh... should I ask what would go on in this
>"rec.arts.Disney.roleplaying" section... or would it sicken me to know?

Don't know, but I have the feeling you wouldn't like paying for what you get :-)

>The first idea that pops into my head is women going on-line, pretending
>they're Ariel or Cinderella or Baby Minnie. Say it ain't so.

More or less, yes, as I explained above. But I must add that there is quite
much irony in this, too. If I had the time I wouldn't mind reading through
all the FDC posts, but as time is limited I prefer to read through my DD&Co.
collection instead...

Knut Hunstad
FDC Entertainer at Norway Pavillion, EPCOT Center
FDC Sailaround Moby Duck
Tallmo
>Every entry on this list get posted on a Scandinavian Netnews activity
>named fa.disney-comics, and that activity is only the entries from this
>list. That means that most Scandinavians with netnews access can read this.

EVEN: That's interesting, but I don't see this group anywhere! Is it
fa.disney-comics or with some more prefix? Or could it be that my provider,
UDAC in Uppsala, does not carry this newsgroup? I wonder how much one
misses, just because the provider skips a lot of groups. I have a little
more than 5000 groups, but somebody told me the other day that there are
almost 10 000 groups in the world (I don't know if this is true, but what
if?).

ALL: And as a newbie here I just have to say that I am almost shocked to
learn that Disney comics are so little appreciated in the US. On the other
hand, how is Gladstone doing? I mean in terms of sales and finance. Their
publications can't be cheap to produce, so they must sell, I guess. Is it
mostly to countries outside the US?

And the newsgroup about Disney is really a sad experience. I can't
understand this hype about Disneyland and Disney World. I mean, doesn't the
visitors care at all were all those people dressed up in mouse and duck
costumes really come from?

Karl-Erik Tallmo

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Jon Cato Lorentzen
It seems that the Barks/Van Horn story will see print here in Norway next
week. I guess this is so for the other Scandinavian countries as well. The text
on the back of this weeks Donald Duck said that it would be split in two, but
would also be printed as the first story in the issue, which hasn't been
done for years.

The text never mentioned Van Horn. It seems like the only artists they find
it worth mentioning over here is Barks and Rosa.

Anyway, there was my contribution to Don's new "lurker law", so now I don't
have to write anything for months ;)

-Jon Cato Lorentzen
JHe
In article <366n4a$c3u at ifi.uio.no>, Even Flood <Even.Flood at due.unit.no> writes:
|>
|>
|> On 26 Sep 1994, Don Rosa wrote:
|>
|> > ......So, lots of people, mostly/enturely in Europe/Scandanavia,
|> > see every message I put into the Digest, but they are unable to reply or
|> > send a comment to me or the Digest?
|> > And do you suppose they all know that and don't try? Or do you
|> > suppose lots of people are constantly sending me/us comments and are
|> > puzzled/pissed that we refuse/decline to/two respond/answer.
|> > I/me started/began to/too get/become carried/toted away/off
|> > with/avec that/this slash/stroke business/bizniz.
|> >
|>
|> Don!
|>
|> Relax, I do not think it is of great importance, and that
|> all the true fans are here on the list. The fact that all traffic is on this
|> list and not on the newsnet indicates that most of the ones interested
|> realizes what is going on and where the Action is.
|>
|> Actually, it might mean that I am the only one reading the Newsnet
|> list (and that because I am too lazy to delete it). It is sort of
|> surprizing that there is no activity on its own there.
|>
|>
|> Even
|>
I can't sit and watch this without responding anymore. I've just become
so confused about the mailing-list, the Digest, the newsnet, etc. etc.
these last days. I've been around on the Newsnet a couple of months
and I subscribed to fa.disney-comics because it seemed interesting.
I am not one of those hard-core disney-fans as some of the contributers
obviously are. I grew up in the sixies,but don't remember reading any
Disney-comics before 1970. In the seventies the stories were OK, but
not more than that. Luckily I had this old aunt who had bought all
issues of Donald Duck & Co from the very beginning in Norway (1949?).
When I visited her I found the old stories much more fun than the new
ones....
I forgot all about it, but when I started to buy comics for my daugther
in the late eighties I began a little more research. I finally discovered
Carl Barks and I noticed that some of the new stories were really great!
There was this story about the Beagle-Boys (I've learned their English
names during my reading of the articles on Newsnet!) having this stop-watch
by which they could actually stop the time. There was also a story about
a gold island (?) raising from the see, timezones, etc.
So I found out that this fabulous artist was called Don Rosa and I started
looking for other stories he had written. And then came Lo$ (correct
written?)....
So you see, I just don't have that much knowledge to share about all this
little details in the stories, all the references to Barks' stories and
so on. But I do enjoy reading the discussions! I've learned a lot these
last months.
And know I understand that I don't belong to the good society. There is
a mailinglist where all the devoted fans are. Therefore the Digest and
all the talk about who the subscribers are.
OK, so maybe noone reads my message anyway (except Even?) so maybe
I should stop writing before I waste more of my precious time this
late monday night....

Jorn Heggset
JHe
Sorry, my line(a)r notes fell out:

Late Thursday night: After sending this article (the one in my
previous post) to the newsgroup fa.disney-comics just to discover
there was hardly any respons to it at all, I've decided to forward
it to the mailinglist. So now you know the name of at least one
lurker on the list (who hardly can be called a lurker anymore).

Jorn Heggset
Don Rosa
JORN:
You and me both have been confused by the newsnet/Digest set up.
You've found that no one responds to the messages you post only to that
newsgroup? Perhaps they are the chronic "lurkers" over there? Perhaps
we're more involved activists on the Digest? Anyway, I thank you for
your kind comments, and I'll always respond to someone who offers me
such complements.
Karyn Sarnowski
unsubscribe Disney-Comics
Bjorn-are.Davidsen
I'm not quite sure what's happening on the Digest at the time as it is several
weeks since I last got a message (I have been away most of the time, but have
gone through all my post and not seen anything later than August 24th).
However, in hope that my own messages still may get through, and that I once
again may be put on the list, I'd like to inform you (as already may have been
informed by several others..) that the first half of the new Barks story will be in
Norwegian Donald Duck next tuesday!

And a question to Don: Is it possible to get a transcription of (only) the poetry
from The War of the Wendigo, some way or other (by post,, homing pigeon,
pony express, e-mail etc.). All expenses will be paid!

Bjorn Are

Bjorn-Are
Knut Hunstad
I got the chance to take a look at the first part of the Barks/Van Horn
story in the norwegian DD&Co. yesterday. Looks quite OK so far, but I'll
wait 'til next week with any further comments. other than this question:

- Has U$ had teeth inside his bill before? I _think_ I remember having seen
it before, but I'm not quite sure. Are there any stories which indicate the
opposite?

The peculiar thing about it is that it's the _first_ story in the magazine!
The only other continuation story I can remember that got the same honour
where some of the Lo$ parts. Personally I would have preferred to have the
whole story as an "extra" magazine which they have about 8 of every year.

Knut Hunstad
Jørgen Andreas Bangor
Since there still seems to be some confusion about this.
The Usenet newsgroup fa.disney-comics is not meant to be
an independent newsgroup. It's only purpose is that
everyone who want to subscribe to the mailing-list can
just read the newsgroup (saves some disk space, I guess).

The prefix fa is, as far as I know, quiet historic.
The first mailing lists that were "converted" to newsgroups
had this prefix (fa = from arpanet?).

Until this discussion I didn't know that this group was
distributed outside ifi.uio.no (Institute of Informatics,
University of Oslo). Do you get the other fa.-groups as
well? At the moment there are 105 of them.

Enough of that...

Since I am (at the moment) not lurking any more, I could
as well introduce myself.
I am 23 years old. In the early seventies Hjemmet published
a series of albums with old Duck stories. My father bought
me one when I was four years old, and I loved it (I've still
got it. It's a bit shabby, but...). The stories where all by
Carl Barks, of course, but it took some years before I dis-
covered that.
A couple of years later I discovered my fathers collection
in my grandfathers house. It consisted of Donald Duck & Co,
and a few monthly magazines, from 1953 - 1971, and apart
from the years 1963 - 65, it's almost complete (my father
stopped bying them in 1968, and my grandfather has never
commented the last three years...).

Then I started to collect in 1979. A few years ago I started
to search for the magazines I missed. Almost everyone from
the seventies. When that is completed I continue bacwards.

I guess everybody have seen now that English is not my first
language. I hope it's not to annoying.

Then after some years with no surprises, and not very
exiting at all, I suddenly discovered a story with a very
different style. It also had an AR code that I hadn't seen
before. This was the best that had happened in years.
Suddenly it began to get exiting again. I always hoped that
a new issue would include a story by this artist, whose
name I later found out. Since I am a collector, I guess I
would have been going on anyway, but I am not to sure. If
it hadn't been for Don Rosa, I might have stopped bying
DD&Co (that sounds terrible...). After all, I have most
of Carl Barks works in the older magazines.

Well then, why am I not contributing to any of the
discussions? There is one minor (well, maybe major)
problem. The distance between me and my collection is
about 200 kilometers, which makes it a bit difficult
looking up things.

I started to read this newsgroup (eh, list) at once it
appeared here. Before that I didn't know it existed...
I have also read most of the archive from lysator, and I
must say I am very impressed. Your knowledge about this
subject is amazing. Through reading this I learned the
names of the authors and artists of things that I have
loved for years. I also realized that it was worthwile to
read the American Disney magazines (at least Gladstones),
and I am know subscribing to them.

I better stop now, this shouldn't become too long.

JAB (jorgenb at ifi.uio.no)
821544DC
unsubscribe disney-comics
Don Rosa
BJORN:
Uh... aren't you in Norway? Why would you need an English
transcription of "War of the Wendigo" when it was printed in Norway?

"JAB":
Are those your initials?
I'm glad to see another "lurker" speak up. I'm fascinated by the
idea that there are people reading all these messages who don't speak up
but can say many interesting things. Thanks.
(Let's see how "fascinated" I am when one speaks up who DOESN'T
like my stories, eh?)
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