>FYI. There is now a Disney comics section on CompuServe. The forum
>is COMICS. The section is #18.
It has been changed to section #10.
>I checked it out and there were 5 messages posted there. Some were from
>Bob Ingersol. Is he on this list also?
Not to my knowledge. Bob writes Mickey Mouse, so I'm not sure how much
interest he would have in a list which is almost exclusively devoted
to the ducks.
James Williams
Author
Topic: 199409
(131 messages)
James Williams
Beagles, CompuServe Disney, and name that geek
Message 46 -
1994-09-12 at 17:43:12
Per Starback
Swedish info
Message 47 -
1994-09-12 at 18:35:15
Various short items, mostly Swedish stuff not terribly interesting to
most of you: (Actually I send it because I want to send a test
message to the list, and I might as well write *something* more than
"testing" in it then.)
* The autumn meeting of NAFS(k) will take place Noverber 19 in
Stockholm.
* There will be a special Bild & Bubbla in Sweden devoted to Barks
(again), published in the aftermath of Barks's visit.
* The next issue of Danish Carl Barks & Co. will be devoted to the
whole of Barks's European tour, with reports from all (?) countries he
visited.
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at minsk.docs.uu.se
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
most of you: (Actually I send it because I want to send a test
message to the list, and I might as well write *something* more than
"testing" in it then.)
* The autumn meeting of NAFS(k) will take place Noverber 19 in
Stockholm.
* There will be a special Bild & Bubbla in Sweden devoted to Barks
(again), published in the aftermath of Barks's visit.
* The next issue of Danish Carl Barks & Co. will be devoted to the
whole of Barks's European tour, with reports from all (?) countries he
visited.
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at minsk.docs.uu.se
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
Lasse Reichstein Nielsen
From RoC
Message 48 -
1994-09-13 at 10:55:23
Slightly off-topic here, but... just *how* bad is 'The Lion King'
anyway? Danish cinemas has ordered the most copies ever of a single
movie to release it simultaneously at just about every major theatre.
And what is it about John Lassiter/PIXAR doing a feature for Disney?
Don, I still think you should do a poster! Don't Egmont ever ask?
How about a map of the good ol' US of A? No, even better: *two* maps;
one pre-Columbian and one present-day, to go with your current story.
Sigurdur:
> Has that Trojan horse story by Barks and Van Horn come out yet?
Expect it to be published in Andres "Ond #41 (or #42) in time for the
school vacation, hopefully as a supplement (sorry, Suomians!)
Me (about a Moe story):
> X 1048 11 42/69 'DD - a Peaceful Fishing Trip!'
> Only a minor role for Moe here. (Drawn by Paul Arens)
Anders:
> 1) The code implies that it was made in 1971. A typo?
In Martin Olsen's index the code is given as X 048. Not better, so I
guess the "1" I can see is supposed to be a "7"
> 2) There is no Paul Arens in the creators index, but there is one *Mike*
> Arens there. What gives?
Just checking who's awake out there:) OK, I goofed; it's Pete Alvarado.
I just *knew* I'd seen Moe in a "Onkel Joakim" pocket. Check out
Onkel Skrue pocket #12/78 for a 16 page, 3 strip Strobl, S-74178.
Anders:
> Say, could you point out in which issues of AA&Co (and hence KA&Co) these
> [Fethry stories] appear?
Harry:
> A lot of these stories are currently being indexed in the Disney comics
> Database, thanks to Anders Engwall. The problem is that most stories did
> not have a code in the 60s.
As I've already shown, Danish issues did print codes in the 60es,
and I am at work on an update of the pathetic danish index on ftp, but
there's an enormous amount to cover - maybe a quarter of a million pages!
I've had to resign and copy Martin Olsen's 1949-84 index by hand at a rate
of at best a year per hour - and without titles in the north Brutopian
dialect commonly known as Danish to save time and space.
(Under consideration is adding a column with the cast of each story.
That would make it very easy to find stories with Popov and Paperinik
and funny cross-overs, like U$ and the 7 Dwarfs...
Swedish.dbl has all the codes Anders could find in KA? I wondered why
it was so fragmentary, so checking my own copy of KA #42/71 only one
story was coded, where Danish AA had them ALL!
Nice touch with the American titles though, Anders.
"*Well* When are you going to think of something else you can beat me at?"
oLe 'RoC' Nielsen c/o lrn.daimi.aau.dk
anyway? Danish cinemas has ordered the most copies ever of a single
movie to release it simultaneously at just about every major theatre.
And what is it about John Lassiter/PIXAR doing a feature for Disney?
Don, I still think you should do a poster! Don't Egmont ever ask?
How about a map of the good ol' US of A? No, even better: *two* maps;
one pre-Columbian and one present-day, to go with your current story.
Sigurdur:
> Has that Trojan horse story by Barks and Van Horn come out yet?
Expect it to be published in Andres "Ond #41 (or #42) in time for the
school vacation, hopefully as a supplement (sorry, Suomians!)
Me (about a Moe story):
> X 1048 11 42/69 'DD - a Peaceful Fishing Trip!'
> Only a minor role for Moe here. (Drawn by Paul Arens)
Anders:
> 1) The code implies that it was made in 1971. A typo?
In Martin Olsen's index the code is given as X 048. Not better, so I
guess the "1" I can see is supposed to be a "7"
> 2) There is no Paul Arens in the creators index, but there is one *Mike*
> Arens there. What gives?
Just checking who's awake out there:) OK, I goofed; it's Pete Alvarado.
I just *knew* I'd seen Moe in a "Onkel Joakim" pocket. Check out
Onkel Skrue pocket #12/78 for a 16 page, 3 strip Strobl, S-74178.
Anders:
> Say, could you point out in which issues of AA&Co (and hence KA&Co) these
> [Fethry stories] appear?
Harry:
> A lot of these stories are currently being indexed in the Disney comics
> Database, thanks to Anders Engwall. The problem is that most stories did
> not have a code in the 60s.
As I've already shown, Danish issues did print codes in the 60es,
and I am at work on an update of the pathetic danish index on ftp, but
there's an enormous amount to cover - maybe a quarter of a million pages!
I've had to resign and copy Martin Olsen's 1949-84 index by hand at a rate
of at best a year per hour - and without titles in the north Brutopian
dialect commonly known as Danish to save time and space.
(Under consideration is adding a column with the cast of each story.
That would make it very easy to find stories with Popov and Paperinik
and funny cross-overs, like U$ and the 7 Dwarfs...
Swedish.dbl has all the codes Anders could find in KA? I wondered why
it was so fragmentary, so checking my own copy of KA #42/71 only one
story was coded, where Danish AA had them ALL!
Nice touch with the American titles though, Anders.
"*Well* When are you going to think of something else you can beat me at?"
oLe 'RoC' Nielsen c/o lrn.daimi.aau.dk
Harry Fluks
Moe and indexes (From RoC)
Message 49 -
1994-09-13 at 12:00:34
Ole about a Moe story:
> X 1048 11 42/69 'DD - a Peaceful Fishing Trip!'
Anders:
> 1) The code implies that it was made in 1971. A typo?
Ole:
> In Martin Olsen's index the code is given as X 048. Not better, so I
> guess the "1" I can see is supposed to be a "7"
I've seen a lot of codes like this in Holland: starting with a '1', while
published in 1968 through 1970. I guess the European publishers got
confused because the American '7' has no horizontal line in the middle...
Ole again, about Disney comics indexes:
> Under consideration is adding a column with the cast of each story.
I also included information like this in the Disney comics Database, though
not in a column. "Unusual" characters (not the entire cast) are mentioned
in a [Ap: xx] comment after the title. So it's easy to find all Fethry
stories.
> Swedish.dbl has all the codes Anders could find in KA?
No, not yet. Anders sent me a lot of data, but I didn't send it to the
ftp site yet.
I started the 'swedish' list by converting Kjell Crone's Western list,
so it includes the Swedish reprints of Western stories, including their
English titles. After that, Anders started sending updates.
If you have a new version of your Danish index, please send it (to me),
I hope I can embed it in the Database!
> "*Well* When are you going to think of something else you can beat me at?"
(I guess we'll never know Donald's answer to this...)
--Harry.
> X 1048 11 42/69 'DD - a Peaceful Fishing Trip!'
Anders:
> 1) The code implies that it was made in 1971. A typo?
Ole:
> In Martin Olsen's index the code is given as X 048. Not better, so I
> guess the "1" I can see is supposed to be a "7"
I've seen a lot of codes like this in Holland: starting with a '1', while
published in 1968 through 1970. I guess the European publishers got
confused because the American '7' has no horizontal line in the middle...
Ole again, about Disney comics indexes:
> Under consideration is adding a column with the cast of each story.
I also included information like this in the Disney comics Database, though
not in a column. "Unusual" characters (not the entire cast) are mentioned
in a [Ap: xx] comment after the title. So it's easy to find all Fethry
stories.
> Swedish.dbl has all the codes Anders could find in KA?
No, not yet. Anders sent me a lot of data, but I didn't send it to the
ftp site yet.
I started the 'swedish' list by converting Kjell Crone's Western list,
so it includes the Swedish reprints of Western stories, including their
English titles. After that, Anders started sending updates.
If you have a new version of your Danish index, please send it (to me),
I hope I can embed it in the Database!
> "*Well* When are you going to think of something else you can beat me at?"
(I guess we'll never know Donald's answer to this...)
--Harry.
Harry Fluks
James and Fabio (2nd attempt)
Message 50 -
1994-09-13 at 12:01:55
James:
> FYI. There is now a Disney comics section on CompuServe.
What is the use of another D.comics forum? Are there CompuServe members
that can't receive 'our' mailing list?
Do CompuServe people want an own list to avoid the messages of some of
us?
Fabio:
> Thank you, my friend!! (I'll send you the money in a little while... :-)
What is the Italian definition of "a little while"? This month I'm celebrating
the fact that it was exactly TWO YEARS ago that I ordered Becattini's
Western Index! And you said last April you were sending something to me...
Is it the Italian mail that's so slow? (In case you wondered why I didn't
send anything back: I waited till your mail arrived...)
[I sent this to the list because I'm not sure whether I can reach Fabio
directly.. - Sorry]
--Harry.
> FYI. There is now a Disney comics section on CompuServe.
What is the use of another D.comics forum? Are there CompuServe members
that can't receive 'our' mailing list?
Do CompuServe people want an own list to avoid the messages of some of
us?
Fabio:
> Thank you, my friend!! (I'll send you the money in a little while... :-)
What is the Italian definition of "a little while"? This month I'm celebrating
the fact that it was exactly TWO YEARS ago that I ordered Becattini's
Western Index! And you said last April you were sending something to me...
Is it the Italian mail that's so slow? (In case you wondered why I didn't
send anything back: I waited till your mail arrived...)
[I sent this to the list because I'm not sure whether I can reach Fabio
directly.. - Sorry]
--Harry.
Fredrik Ekman
CompuServe
Message 51 -
1994-09-13 at 13:56:12
On Tue, 13 Sep 1994, Harry Fluks wrote:
> James:
> > FYI. There is now a Disney comics section on CompuServe.
>
> What is the use of another D.comics forum? Are there CompuServe members
> that can't receive 'our' mailing list?
> Do CompuServe people want an own list to avoid the messages of some of
> us?
I could think of several reasons: It may be cheaper for CS members to use
their own service, CS is commercial and may decide that they make more
money this way (don't ask me how), CS may try to create a "better" list
in order to win more subscribers or (the most probable reason) the majority
of CS users (I would guess close to 100%) do not know of our existence.
That enough? I could probably summon up a few more.
/Fredrik
PS. By the way, did anyone get my last message a few days ago? If I have
received it myself I must have deleted it without noticing. DS.
> James:
> > FYI. There is now a Disney comics section on CompuServe.
>
> What is the use of another D.comics forum? Are there CompuServe members
> that can't receive 'our' mailing list?
> Do CompuServe people want an own list to avoid the messages of some of
> us?
I could think of several reasons: It may be cheaper for CS members to use
their own service, CS is commercial and may decide that they make more
money this way (don't ask me how), CS may try to create a "better" list
in order to win more subscribers or (the most probable reason) the majority
of CS users (I would guess close to 100%) do not know of our existence.
That enough? I could probably summon up a few more.
/Fredrik
PS. By the way, did anyone get my last message a few days ago? If I have
received it myself I must have deleted it without noticing. DS.
Tryg Helseth
CompuServe Disney comics forum.
Message 52 -
1994-09-13 at 14:32:18
Harry:
>What is the use of another D.comics forum? Are there CompuServe members
>that can't receive 'our' mailing list? Do CompuServe people want an own
>list to avoid the messages of some of us?
I've had an CompuServe account for a number of years and yet didn't realize
I could have been receiving this mailing list there, so ingnorance may be
part of it. Also, CompuServe's message threading used in their forums may
be preferred by some. I checked out the Disney comics forum there and
there is quite a flurry of message activity. Will have to wait until the
newness wears off to see if it remains so.
FREDRIK:
>I could think of several reasons: It may be cheaper for CS members to use
>their own service, CS is commercial and may decide that they make more
>money this way (don't ask me how), CS may try to create a "better" list
>in order to win more subscribers or (the most probable reason) the majority
>of CS users (I would guess close to 100%) do not know of our existence.
If your only account is CS, it may be cheaper, but CS is not cheap! I pay
a modest annual rate for my internet account, but CS costs $ per hour and
per message. An off-line reader would help, but it still is expensive.
I would guess that most Disney comic fans do not know of this list. I
noticed that Catherine Yronwode in her "Fit to Print" article in the latest
CBG mentioned a Modesty Blaise mailing list. Have there been similar plugs
for this list?
>PS. By the way, did anyone get my last message a few days ago? If I have
>received it myself I must have deleted it without noticing. DS.
I checked back to August 26th, and there were no messages from you.
Tryg Helseth <trygve at maroon.tc.umn.edu> Minneapolis, MN, USA
or <tryg.helseth at tstation.mn.org>
"I wish they all could be Calisota Ducks!" -the Beach Drakes
>What is the use of another D.comics forum? Are there CompuServe members
>that can't receive 'our' mailing list? Do CompuServe people want an own
>list to avoid the messages of some of us?
I've had an CompuServe account for a number of years and yet didn't realize
I could have been receiving this mailing list there, so ingnorance may be
part of it. Also, CompuServe's message threading used in their forums may
be preferred by some. I checked out the Disney comics forum there and
there is quite a flurry of message activity. Will have to wait until the
newness wears off to see if it remains so.
FREDRIK:
>I could think of several reasons: It may be cheaper for CS members to use
>their own service, CS is commercial and may decide that they make more
>money this way (don't ask me how), CS may try to create a "better" list
>in order to win more subscribers or (the most probable reason) the majority
>of CS users (I would guess close to 100%) do not know of our existence.
If your only account is CS, it may be cheaper, but CS is not cheap! I pay
a modest annual rate for my internet account, but CS costs $ per hour and
per message. An off-line reader would help, but it still is expensive.
I would guess that most Disney comic fans do not know of this list. I
noticed that Catherine Yronwode in her "Fit to Print" article in the latest
CBG mentioned a Modesty Blaise mailing list. Have there been similar plugs
for this list?
>PS. By the way, did anyone get my last message a few days ago? If I have
>received it myself I must have deleted it without noticing. DS.
I checked back to August 26th, and there were no messages from you.
Tryg Helseth <trygve at maroon.tc.umn.edu> Minneapolis, MN, USA
or <tryg.helseth at tstation.mn.org>
"I wish they all could be Calisota Ducks!" -the Beach Drakes
Mark Mayerson
Lion King and Lasseter
Message 53 -
1994-09-13 at 15:07:03
Lasse Reichstein Nielsen wrote:
>Slightly off-topic here, but... just *how* bad is 'The Lion King'
>anyway? Danish cinemas has ordered the most copies ever of a single
>movie to release it simultaneously at just about every major theatre.
> And what is it about John Lassiter/PIXAR doing a feature for Disney?
The Lion King has a lot of great visuals but a very poorly structured
story. That doesn't seem to be bothering North American audiences, who
have made this the highest grossing Disney feature in North American
history. While I have reservations about all the recent Disney
animated features, this one is probably the worst from a story
standpoint since Oliver and Co. Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast
and Aladdin are all far superior so far as I'm concerned.
The Lassiter feature is tentatively called Toy Story. It's completely
computer animated and currently in production. I know one of the
animators. It's due to finish up in the summer of '95, so assuming
that it finishes on time, it will be released for Christmas '95.
___________________________________________________________________
Mark Mayerson Side Effects Software Inc.,
Internet: mayerson at sidefx.com Toronto, Ontario, Canada
(416) 366-4607
>Slightly off-topic here, but... just *how* bad is 'The Lion King'
>anyway? Danish cinemas has ordered the most copies ever of a single
>movie to release it simultaneously at just about every major theatre.
> And what is it about John Lassiter/PIXAR doing a feature for Disney?
The Lion King has a lot of great visuals but a very poorly structured
story. That doesn't seem to be bothering North American audiences, who
have made this the highest grossing Disney feature in North American
history. While I have reservations about all the recent Disney
animated features, this one is probably the worst from a story
standpoint since Oliver and Co. Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast
and Aladdin are all far superior so far as I'm concerned.
The Lassiter feature is tentatively called Toy Story. It's completely
computer animated and currently in production. I know one of the
animators. It's due to finish up in the summer of '95, so assuming
that it finishes on time, it will be released for Christmas '95.
___________________________________________________________________
Mark Mayerson Side Effects Software Inc.,
Internet: mayerson at sidefx.com Toronto, Ontario, Canada
(416) 366-4607
Don Rosa
Disney-comics digest #432.
Message 54 -
1994-09-14 at 06:43:28
The sysop of the COMPUSERVE comics forum is a Disney Duck fan
and a good friend, and has wanted to put me into a live conference over
there, or into my own temporary section to talk to fans, but I have told
him for about 3 years that I could tell there was just no point. There
is a virtually total lack of interest in Disney comics on that forum. I
doubt if I get 10 messages per year asking me about or otherwise
discussing my work or any Disney comics. I would have dropped COMPUSERVE
a year ago if I hadn't started receiving THIS Digest -- and I can't find
any other source to obtain this Digest that is significantly cheaper
than COMPUSERVE, so I stay on there.
I forget why we finally decided to try a Disney comics section
just now -- I believe a European Duck fan stumbled onto the service
briefly and asked why there was no section for such popular comics,
little realizing how UNpopular they are in America. (One of the first
messages on the section was from someone wondering, without much tact,
why on earth there should be a section for comics that no one reads.) It
never occurred to me that a Disney comics section on COMPUSERVE might
have any affect on this Digest. Those people are completely unaware of
this Digest, and even if they were aware I doubt if they'd join. I've
announced the existance of this Digest several times on there, and the
few people who expressed a vague interest were discouraged when they
realized what it would cost them (as I always remind you folks who like
to repeat all those parts of previous Digests, this costs us on
COMPUSERVE a piece of a penny to read every letter that's typed in here,
and it usually comes to about $20 per month on my bill. There just
aren't any Disney fans over there interested enough to join up here.
I've seen a few people say the Disney comics section there is
off to a good start. I don't think I can agree. For the THOUSANDS of
people in that forum who can see the Disney comics section every day
with the push of a button, there have been messages from the same
half-dozen people, and none have had anything much to say other than "hi
-- here we are -- lookit this -- far out". I'm kidding sorta... but
there's nothing going on over there even as deep as the discussion of
story-codes or of Hillbilly Moe that we've seen on the last few Digests.
And I'm not going out of my way to stimulate the section -- I want to
see what happens to it without me goosing it around. (After all, you can
see at this very moment how I can run off at the keyboard when I feel
the urge.)
Lion King? I haven't seen it, and feel no more interested in
doing so than I did for ALADDIN. But it does seem very popular
regardless of the quality of its contents. And the reason surely is
PROMOTION. Disney has learned that it doesn't matter what they have to
sell, if they sell it with enough omnipresent hype and toys and
burger-joint giveaways and endless promotions, that the kids of America
(and their parents) will need to see it just as part of the sheep
syndrome. The only comments I've seen from intelligent adult Disney fans
about THE LION KING is "feh" or "yuch" or such; but I haven't seen it,
so I dunno.
and a good friend, and has wanted to put me into a live conference over
there, or into my own temporary section to talk to fans, but I have told
him for about 3 years that I could tell there was just no point. There
is a virtually total lack of interest in Disney comics on that forum. I
doubt if I get 10 messages per year asking me about or otherwise
discussing my work or any Disney comics. I would have dropped COMPUSERVE
a year ago if I hadn't started receiving THIS Digest -- and I can't find
any other source to obtain this Digest that is significantly cheaper
than COMPUSERVE, so I stay on there.
I forget why we finally decided to try a Disney comics section
just now -- I believe a European Duck fan stumbled onto the service
briefly and asked why there was no section for such popular comics,
little realizing how UNpopular they are in America. (One of the first
messages on the section was from someone wondering, without much tact,
why on earth there should be a section for comics that no one reads.) It
never occurred to me that a Disney comics section on COMPUSERVE might
have any affect on this Digest. Those people are completely unaware of
this Digest, and even if they were aware I doubt if they'd join. I've
announced the existance of this Digest several times on there, and the
few people who expressed a vague interest were discouraged when they
realized what it would cost them (as I always remind you folks who like
to repeat all those parts of previous Digests, this costs us on
COMPUSERVE a piece of a penny to read every letter that's typed in here,
and it usually comes to about $20 per month on my bill. There just
aren't any Disney fans over there interested enough to join up here.
I've seen a few people say the Disney comics section there is
off to a good start. I don't think I can agree. For the THOUSANDS of
people in that forum who can see the Disney comics section every day
with the push of a button, there have been messages from the same
half-dozen people, and none have had anything much to say other than "hi
-- here we are -- lookit this -- far out". I'm kidding sorta... but
there's nothing going on over there even as deep as the discussion of
story-codes or of Hillbilly Moe that we've seen on the last few Digests.
And I'm not going out of my way to stimulate the section -- I want to
see what happens to it without me goosing it around. (After all, you can
see at this very moment how I can run off at the keyboard when I feel
the urge.)
Lion King? I haven't seen it, and feel no more interested in
doing so than I did for ALADDIN. But it does seem very popular
regardless of the quality of its contents. And the reason surely is
PROMOTION. Disney has learned that it doesn't matter what they have to
sell, if they sell it with enough omnipresent hype and toys and
burger-joint giveaways and endless promotions, that the kids of America
(and their parents) will need to see it just as part of the sheep
syndrome. The only comments I've seen from intelligent adult Disney fans
about THE LION KING is "feh" or "yuch" or such; but I haven't seen it,
so I dunno.
Mark Semich
Witch Hazel
Message 55 -
1994-09-14 at 07:28:54
In the latest CBG, cat yronwode plugs Ron Fernandez and Pat Block's
upcoming Donald Duck Adventures story, "Too Late for Christmas." She
mentions that the story brings back an obscure Carl Barks creation,
"Witch Hazel," (DD 26, sep-oct 1952) and that a similar Witch Hazel
appeared in "The Spirit" in the 1940s and 50s
I realize I should check the character index for a mention of Witch
Hazel, but does anyone remember off hand which story this was? And has
anyone seen Eisner's "Witch Hazel" or suspect that there may be a
connection in the two characters?
upcoming Donald Duck Adventures story, "Too Late for Christmas." She
mentions that the story brings back an obscure Carl Barks creation,
"Witch Hazel," (DD 26, sep-oct 1952) and that a similar Witch Hazel
appeared in "The Spirit" in the 1940s and 50s
I realize I should check the character index for a mention of Witch
Hazel, but does anyone remember off hand which story this was? And has
anyone seen Eisner's "Witch Hazel" or suspect that there may be a
connection in the two characters?
Knut Hunstad
Witch Hazel
Message 56 -
1994-09-14 at 09:56:58
Which witch (inside joke for norwegians...)?
>I realize I should check the character index for a mention of Witch
>Hazel, but does anyone remember off hand which story this was?
If I am not mistaken Witch Hazel is the same witch we call "Hekla Heks"
(heks = witch) in Norway (Fredrik Ekman, are you reading this, the norwegian
name is not in your INTERLIN file). She has been in a Barks story I would
guess is named "Trick or treat" in America, where she helps HDL by
"persuading" DD to give them sweats for Halloween. She has also made several
appearances in the norwegian DD pockets which probably means some italian
artists have used here now and then? But I'm starting to get out on real
thin ice here, if noone else can dig up more information I'll check out some
of the early DD pockets when I get home...
You really got me curious about a possible Eisner/Spirit connection...
Knut Hunstad
>I realize I should check the character index for a mention of Witch
>Hazel, but does anyone remember off hand which story this was?
If I am not mistaken Witch Hazel is the same witch we call "Hekla Heks"
(heks = witch) in Norway (Fredrik Ekman, are you reading this, the norwegian
name is not in your INTERLIN file). She has been in a Barks story I would
guess is named "Trick or treat" in America, where she helps HDL by
"persuading" DD to give them sweats for Halloween. She has also made several
appearances in the norwegian DD pockets which probably means some italian
artists have used here now and then? But I'm starting to get out on real
thin ice here, if noone else can dig up more information I'll check out some
of the early DD pockets when I get home...
You really got me curious about a possible Eisner/Spirit connection...
Knut Hunstad
Wilmer Rivers
Witch Hazel
Message 57 -
1994-09-14 at 09:58:37
Witch Hazel appeared in "Trick or Treat". I doubt that there is any
real connection with the Witch Hazel who appeared in Eisner's The Spirit
(or, for tht matter, with the Witch Hazel who was a recurring character
for many years in the Little Lulu comics). "Witch hazel" is a shrub
with yellow flowers or, more commonly, an ointment that's made from
alcohol and the extract of that shrub. So naming a witch "Hazel" is
an obvious silly pun which has probably been used by lots of cartoonists
over the years. It's not so imaginative as naming a duck "Habakkuk"!
Wilmer Rivers
real connection with the Witch Hazel who appeared in Eisner's The Spirit
(or, for tht matter, with the Witch Hazel who was a recurring character
for many years in the Little Lulu comics). "Witch hazel" is a shrub
with yellow flowers or, more commonly, an ointment that's made from
alcohol and the extract of that shrub. So naming a witch "Hazel" is
an obvious silly pun which has probably been used by lots of cartoonists
over the years. It's not so imaginative as naming a duck "Habakkuk"!
Wilmer Rivers
Larry Gerstein
My "Morgan's Island" artist
Message 58 -
1994-09-15 at 02:22:11
Hi, Folks!
Harry:
> I've just completed the script for a Duck story done directly for
> Gladstone: the "Pirate Gold" sequel "Return to Morgan's Island," which will
> be a 26-pager.
"You mean they found an artist to draw stories like this? Is this
the same artist James was talking about?"
Nope. Craig Deeley (the artist for "Morgan's Island") is a
personal friend of mine, who I first met when Bob Foster introduced us
1-1/2 years ago. I have no idea who's going to draw James' stories -- and
have not in fact talked of those stories with John Clark at all. Why
should I be nosing through James' business (without his permission that is
;-)?
Best,
David Gerstein
<gerstein at math.ucsb.edu>
gerstein at math.ucsb.edu
Harry:
> I've just completed the script for a Duck story done directly for
> Gladstone: the "Pirate Gold" sequel "Return to Morgan's Island," which will
> be a 26-pager.
"You mean they found an artist to draw stories like this? Is this
the same artist James was talking about?"
Nope. Craig Deeley (the artist for "Morgan's Island") is a
personal friend of mine, who I first met when Bob Foster introduced us
1-1/2 years ago. I have no idea who's going to draw James' stories -- and
have not in fact talked of those stories with John Clark at all. Why
should I be nosing through James' business (without his permission that is
;-)?
Best,
David Gerstein
<gerstein at math.ucsb.edu>
gerstein at math.ucsb.edu
Larry Gerstein
Disney-comics digest #425.
Message 59 -
1994-09-15 at 02:25:17
Dear Folks,
"I saw a long Dutch Scrooge story a few weeks ago, with art that looked very
much like Pat Block's. Did he draw a story for GP in Holland, before he
worked for Gladstone?"
No, Harry... I can't imagine who drew this story (which I haven't
seen, as I don't regularly get the Dutch comics). Pat Block's stories are,
so far:
DDA 27: "Mystery of Widow's Gap"
DDA 30: "No Time for Christmas"
DDA 32 (?): "The Secret of the Dragon's Den"
This last is a terrific show-stopper with much better dialogue than
has been the case up until now. The art is much better, too -- just
magnificent! And with the Xmas tale, it's already a cut above what we've
seen. Pat Block is getting places, FAST.
He also sent me a beautiful drawing of a Gottfredson-style 1930s
Goofy just the other day. I practically fell over flat when I saw it!
David Gerstein
<gerstein at math.ucsb.edu>
gerstein at math.ucsb.edu
"I saw a long Dutch Scrooge story a few weeks ago, with art that looked very
much like Pat Block's. Did he draw a story for GP in Holland, before he
worked for Gladstone?"
No, Harry... I can't imagine who drew this story (which I haven't
seen, as I don't regularly get the Dutch comics). Pat Block's stories are,
so far:
DDA 27: "Mystery of Widow's Gap"
DDA 30: "No Time for Christmas"
DDA 32 (?): "The Secret of the Dragon's Den"
This last is a terrific show-stopper with much better dialogue than
has been the case up until now. The art is much better, too -- just
magnificent! And with the Xmas tale, it's already a cut above what we've
seen. Pat Block is getting places, FAST.
He also sent me a beautiful drawing of a Gottfredson-style 1930s
Goofy just the other day. I practically fell over flat when I saw it!
David Gerstein
<gerstein at math.ucsb.edu>
gerstein at math.ucsb.edu
Larry Gerstein
Disney-comics digest #427.
Message 60 -
1994-09-15 at 02:36:30
Dear Folks,
ROC mentioned that the "first of the "new" [Egmont] MM stories
takes Mickey, Minnie, and Goofy to an uncharted island in the
Bermuda-Shorts-Triangle, where they encounter an alien spaceship, a boa
constrictor, Pegleg Pete & his pirates, and an 'alternate' Mickey and
Minnie, while Goofy plays cards with a couple of his favorite cartoon
heroes - a stuffed donkey (Eeyore), a bear (Humphrey?) and an unidentified
fish - and loses heavily."
I have Byron's original English script, which I requested from
Egmont's Anina Bennett. In English, the fish is Flip the Fish (an homage
to Ub Iwerks' Flip the Frog), the bear is Bunko Bear (with an accent like
that of Barnstable Bear in Kelly's POGO) and the donkey is NOT Eeyore. The
setting is actually the "Remuda" Triangle, and the story -- because the
island is controlled by this mysterious force that causes anything to
happen that our heroes can imagine -- is called "Fantasy Island." Nyuk,
nyuk. It's a GREAT story in English... I can't wait to see it here!
But it's NOT the first Egmont MM to appear in Gladstone. The one
coming in DM 27 (or wherever) is called "MM and the Weather Wizard" and is
an earlier one Byron wrote. It will be followed by an Esteban Mickey from
c. 1989, then an Italian story -- we may not see "Fantasy Island" here for
a year or so (but don't hold me to that...)
Thanks a LOT for the Moe checklist. I'll get John Clark on the
hog-calling path right away! Soooo-eeeeee!
I shall return!
David
gerstein at math.ucsb.edu
ROC mentioned that the "first of the "new" [Egmont] MM stories
takes Mickey, Minnie, and Goofy to an uncharted island in the
Bermuda-Shorts-Triangle, where they encounter an alien spaceship, a boa
constrictor, Pegleg Pete & his pirates, and an 'alternate' Mickey and
Minnie, while Goofy plays cards with a couple of his favorite cartoon
heroes - a stuffed donkey (Eeyore), a bear (Humphrey?) and an unidentified
fish - and loses heavily."
I have Byron's original English script, which I requested from
Egmont's Anina Bennett. In English, the fish is Flip the Fish (an homage
to Ub Iwerks' Flip the Frog), the bear is Bunko Bear (with an accent like
that of Barnstable Bear in Kelly's POGO) and the donkey is NOT Eeyore. The
setting is actually the "Remuda" Triangle, and the story -- because the
island is controlled by this mysterious force that causes anything to
happen that our heroes can imagine -- is called "Fantasy Island." Nyuk,
nyuk. It's a GREAT story in English... I can't wait to see it here!
But it's NOT the first Egmont MM to appear in Gladstone. The one
coming in DM 27 (or wherever) is called "MM and the Weather Wizard" and is
an earlier one Byron wrote. It will be followed by an Esteban Mickey from
c. 1989, then an Italian story -- we may not see "Fantasy Island" here for
a year or so (but don't hold me to that...)
Thanks a LOT for the Moe checklist. I'll get John Clark on the
hog-calling path right away! Soooo-eeeeee!
I shall return!
David
gerstein at math.ucsb.edu