Keskustelujen arkisto

Date: Thu, 11 Aug 94 17:14:58 +0200
From: Per Starback <starback at Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE>

In the older list it says that The War of the Wendigo was published in
MM 44-46/1991, but in the newer it says MM 45-47/1991. Which is
right?
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at minsk.docs.uu.se
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"

The War of the Wendigo was published in MM 45-47/1991. In MM 44 was the conclusion
of the three parter Mickey Mouse in The Mystery Monster from Smoggy Bog by Paul
Murry which was published in MM 42-44/1991.
In the German Micky Maus is only one continuing story published in regular.

-- Gilbert

After consulting my notes about German and foreign names of Disney Characters I
found out that Skogs-Ola about which the discussion goes is called in German
Habakuk and in English Hog Haid Moe.
The English name I've gotten from an Australian comic called Donald & Fethry
if I remind correctly. To be sure I have to check my comics once more.
About the name I'm sure but not about the source.

--Gilbert

On Mon, 5 Sep 1994, Sigurdur Hrafn Gislason wrote:

> Anyway, this is something I never ever saw in a Disney comic.
> Stories that address real social problems? Never seen those in a Disney comic.
> Maybe this was the only time, but I wonder how it got past the editors.
> Could it be that the italian comics are more serious in this matter?

Well, I have seen this story and a few similar. In a couple of stories MM
is an agent for WWF flying around the world and saves animals.

I think that the Italians have more liberty and don't need to be PC.

Steamboat Willie

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SIGURDUR:
Old bizniz! I forgot to answer your question about that scene at
the beginning of "Lo$" part 11 where $crooge is in Goldopolis, Nevada,
fighting the McVipers and hiding a stock certificate in a
bottle-building; yes, that odd little interlude is entirely based on
Barks' "Mystery of the Ghosttown Railroad", which, like every morsel of
info Barks ever wrote about $crooge's early life, I was determined to
get into the "Lo$" somewhere. Part 11 was the awkward catch-all for
dozens of old Barks references. Actually, every single thing that
happens in that long chapter is based on some old Barks bit -- was that
the ONLY bit of bizniz that you couldn't identify?

LARS:
I am trying to find someone living in France who can supply me
with copies of LE JOURNAL DE MICKEY or PICSOU which reprint my stories.
Do you have any way to obtain back issues from the past year or two?

HARRY:
Pat Block never did any work for "Oberon" prior to his Gladstone
story? What did Duck fans think of that "Mystery of Widow's Gap", by the
way?

MATTIAS:
I still haven't heard from anyone at Egmont/Sweden, but I did
get a call from a Swedish travel agent calling, I assume, on Brobeck's
behalf. She was asking me what dates I wanted to go to
Gothenburg-Oslo-Stockholm and I told her I didn't have the foggiest
idea. She then said she had been given certain dates and would send me
some possible flight schedules to look at -- but I haven't heard
anything since last week. I also heard from Daniel Atterbom informing me
that he could the Stockholm show could no longer help pay for the plane
tickets; the call from the travel agent seemed to imply that Egmont
wasn't going to require $ help from Atterbom, but perhaps they were just
assuming it was still part of his plan -- so, as usual, I'm still not
sure just what is what.
You already said you couldn't make it to Stockholm -- but now
you're also saying that you won't be in Gothenburg either??? Isn't that
practically walking distance from Lund? (Or close, anyway?)

This is an updated version of a letter Lasse swears was sent last week:

Don't sign anything, before you've read it!
-------------------------------------------
A paragraph in my latest letter appeared like this:
> Though Barks knew that his stories would be read all around the world,
> references to American geography, culture and history are legio.
> Especially the Midwest
As I write my letters over days or even weeks - inserting, deleting,
and rearranging - they go through various stages of finishity.
Occasionally work-in-progress will be rescheduled for next time, in
order to let my brother Lasse start the presses.
I'll leave it to you to name 50 or more examples from Barks' work
with references to cowboys and indians.

Don:
----
> I can't recall now who [...] supplied me with an UNCLE $CROOGE #179
> [...] Also, %$#&@^% it, but I seem to be missing an UNCLE $CROOGE
> #180, so I still don't have a set!
Sorry to hear about U$ #180, I was kinda hopin' I'd go down in history
as 'The Man Who Completed Don Rosa's Uncle $crooge Collection':)

Mickey Mouse is fun
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Harry:
> Gladstone announces a "Danish" Mickey story by Erickson and Ferioli, for
> one of the issues of "Donald and Mickey". I'm sure Ole and David will like
> this...
I sure do, if it is the same 24 pager in-3-issues in recent Nordic issues,
that Mikko credited to Verhagen... small spoiler !alert!:
This first of the "new" MM stories takes Mickey, Minnie, and Goofy to an
uncharted island in the Bermuda-Shorts-Triangle, where they encounter
an alien spaceship, a boa constrictor, Pegleg Pete & his pirates, and an
'alternate' Mickey and Minnie, while Goofy plays cards with a couple of
his favorite cartoon heroes - a stuffed donkey (Eeyore), a bear (Humphrey?)
and an unidentified fish - and loses heavily.

The Complete (in-the-disney-comics-sense-of-that-word) Moe Checklist:
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code pages AA-DK title

X 8191 10 27/69 'DD and Moe the Hermit'
John Hancock wanted.
?????? 12 33/69 'CF: Unauthorized Real Estate Agent'
Fethry sells $crooge Moe's... dog?
X 8144 7 39/69 'Eat at Moe's'
Fethry promotes the backward restaurant surprisingly well.
X 1048 11 42/69 'DD - a Peaceful Fishing Trip!'
Only a minor role for Moe here. (Drawn by Paul Arens)
X 8139 9 46/69 'DD - a Fast Deal'
U$ tries to buy antiquities from Moe.
X 8055 6 3/71 'Folksingin' and hog-callin''
Anders: "[...] this is the one to go for." Oink. I second that.
S 1055 7 8/74 'The green-beaked woodchopper'
Moe photographs a rare bird for HDL, and becomes honorary JW.
S 74146 6 8/76 'The Chicken-thief'
Moe's old friend, an escaped convict, hides at Moe's place.

All stories drawn by Tony Strobl, except where otherwise stated.

The Quintessential Fethry (more boring codes)
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David:
> Someone just wrote a letter in DD #287 asking why Fethry didn't
> appear here. They referred to him, however, as "Popop," the French name.
> In their reply, Gladstone ALSO called him Popop -- which must mean that no
> one there was able to even recollect seeing the character in English!
> (I've written a letter noting the two stories with him that I have seen in
> the U. S., also mentioning his real name.)
The Fethry in DD #106 is very different in appearance from the later Fethry
as drawn by TS. The really good stories are however the ones drawn by Al
Hubbard around 1964.
Try these: EXTRA 4024, 4033, 4051, 4079, 4120, 4130, and 6066...

What's the capital of Ohio and other encyclollypopidal questions
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Wilmer:
> It was a LUNAR eclipse that Columbus predicted for the Jamaican
> natives, if that makes a difference.
As lunar eclipses are fairly common - usually two or four a year - and
not as temporally or geographically limited as the solar counterpart,
it's not too improbable, or... Wm. Hathaway, speak up.

Tryg:
In Icelandic 'helseth' means 'dead clever' (or maybe 'lethally wounded'?)
At least that's what my Icelandic/Danish dictionary said. Sigurdur?

<oLe 'RoC' Reichstein Nielsen, c/o Lasse 'Spot' R.N. (lrn at daimi.aau.dk)>

Don Rosa asked:

>What did Duck fans think of that "Mystery of Widow's Gap", by the
>way?

I liked it. I thought it was a very promising first work from two
rookies. I think Pat Block's artwork is already very good. In time, I
think he will become a terrific artist. Ron Fernandez dialog was
good but his ploting needs a lot of work.

Don, what did you think of it?

David, you've met Pat and Ron. Did you mention this list to them, I
think it would be nice to have them join.

James Williams

First, some Dutch (Rosa) information:

This month's DONALD DUCK EXTRA (#9) finally prints Don Rosa's "On a Silver
Platter" (for the first time in Holland!), along with a Rota and a Van
Horn story.
Next month's issue will contain Life Of Scrooge #10. I guess they saved
the Lo$ stories till now (the comics sell better in the autumn and winter),
and will publish Lo$ in #10, #11 and #12 (when it will be Christmas).

Then, Don wrote ('?' removed 8-):
> Pat Block never did any work for "Oberon" prior to his Gladstone story

Well, this Dutch story looked very much like his artwork: quite unstable
Ducks (though very good in some panels), and secondary characters that
look a lot like Volker Reiche's in the 70s.

And what did I think of it? Well, the art was a surprise (but is has to grow),
the story was a disappointment. Quite the opposite from "Son of the Sun",
where the story was a surprise, and the art a disappointment 8-)

Lars Lundheim about Fethry:
> Yes, and the funniest ones are drawn in a style very similar to
> Al Hubbard. Are these the italian ones, ore are they actually Hubbards work?

They are Hubbard. Per Starback is a big fan of those stories. I myself
prefer the Strobl ones.

> (In Norway in the sixties I believe their codes started with x, xtra or
> extra.)

Correct: they were "extra" stories, produced by the Disney Studios for the
"foreign market". In the 70s, these kind of stories became a code starting
with 'S'. Hubbard, Strobl, Bradbury, and even Romano Scarpa drew "foreign
market" stories in the 60s.

A lot of these stories are currently being indexed in the Disney comics
Database, thanks to Anders Engwall. The problem is that most stories did
not have a code in the 60s.

--Harry.

(My e-mail address has changed. New address:
fluks at pcssdc.pttnwb.nl
The old address can still be used for a while
)

On 7 Sep 1994, Don Rosa wrote:

> BROR:
> Mickey as a protector of animals for the World Wildlife Fund is
> one thing -- I would very probably want to do something like that with
> that goodie-two-shoes sort of character (if I had to do anything) since
> that's something that I am a strong advocate of. But Mickey in a story
> about child abuse is something else altogether. Doncha think? Maybe not.

Well, I have never seen anything like that from Egmont or Gladstone. Not
anything like it. Nothing that even smells of engagement for some
existing cause. Only the Italians. I saw today a strange story about
Mickey engaged with Amnesty International and that's Italian too.

Steamboat Willie

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