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Cdoberman
This has been a good week. In addition to reading "Lost in The Andes" for the
first time, I just finished reading "Land of the Pygmy Indians" and "The Old
Castles Secret."

I enjoyed TOCS, although it was REALLY hard to accept an invisibility spray.
But I loved the fact that Diamond Dick stole the "Chemical Spray . . . from
a foreign spy during the war." Given the fact that the story was written in
1948, I found this reference (full of nationalistic suspicion) very
interesting. Is there any way, Don, to work in a reference to that incident
in a future story?

LotPI was extremely charming, and I guess I was lucky to find it because it
sure as heck ain't gonna be reprinted any time soon. Not here in the USofA
anyway -- it is loaded with stereotypes. But I loved the rythmic speaking of
the indians and enjoyed the theme a lot. (I think the theme is, no matter
where we go to "get away from it all," we bring "it all" with us," and that
theme is illustrated by the Paleducks invasion of the Indians' land.)

The most startling line in the story -- and one that Disney will never
reprint, I'm sure -- is Scrooge's line: "Quiet! Those Redskins' ears may be
as big as their noses!"

-- Wes
Arthur De Wolf
JøRGEN ANDREAS BANGOR:
That's interesting. So Barks' scene was REALLY taken by George
Lucas? Somehow, I suspected that already. It's EXACTLY the same. The only
thing is that the water doesn't blow Indy to the other side of the
canyon, like it does to Donald. But the rest is equal to eachother.
Does anyone know, if there are MORE movies that contain scenes,
being based on Disney-comic-stories?

AUGIE:
You said that you were interested in lettering and letter-columns.
I sure have seen a lot of your letters in American Disney comics' letter-
columns. Or were those letters from another Augie De Blieck? Is it easy
to get your letter in a Gladstone-comic? Or do they get hundreds of letters
a day? A lot of years ago, I did send a lot of letters to the Dutch
Donald Duck weekly. They were never printed though. I always got a standard
postcard with a 1-page-Donald-gag on it. It always said the same:

- "Thank you for your letter. I've read it. Huey read it.
- Duey read it. Louie read it. Daisy read it. Uncle Scrooge
- didn't read it. He thinks time is money, and you know how
- Scrooge thinks about money. Anyway, thanks for your letter.
- We're sorry that we can't print it in the Donald Duck. But
- I'm sure, that when you send us a letter or a nice drawing
- next time, we will publish it.
-
- Greetings, Donald Duck"

I'm sure Daniel will remember these Donald-postcards.
They even signed them with "Donald Duck". It's awfull. Anyway, when
I was young, I liked to get personal postcards from Donald himself. Now-
adays, I KNOW that Donald isn't a real duck. Can you imagine how devistated
I was, when my mother told me that Donald didn't exist. :-( I'm glad,
Uncle Scrooge is REAL! (Please don't tell me he isn't!)
I hope I didn't hurt someones feelings by saying that Donald is
just an imaginary character. I'm sorry for that, but it's the truth. ;-)

See ya,
___
C:\>aR|HUr
Don Rosa
ANDREAS:
So THAT'S what that little pamphlet was in the DD weekly a few weeks
ago. "Strange facts about the Disney comics". I wondered what it was (since
I can't read it)... but it did seem to be citing various facts, sometimes
along with an artist's name. And I was (naturally) particularly puzzled when
I saw my own name in a paragraph that seemed to be reciting $crooge's total
worth -- you know, the long line of "Ten fantasticatillion, eleven
impossibidillion, blah, blah, blah, ...and 25 cents" bit. Was the author
incorrectly attributing that line to ME instead of Barks? What other Duck
facts did the author consider "strange". Actually, if the author is Erik
Horthe, he's on-line here and might answer himself.

TOMMY:
I'm reading with interest the installments of your paper. Is it
worth mentioning that Magica DeSpell is based in Pompeii (Mt.Vesuvius) and
not Crete... at least in the original American version.
And I see you wrestling with how Magica (and $crooge) regard that #1
Dime. That is a concept that has gotten fuddled in the last 30 years. The
editor's note that you quote sums it up well. In the 12th chapter of the
"Lo$" as well as the chapter "0" that follows in the next Gladstone issue,
AND "The Treasury of Croesus" story, I try to straighten the whole thing out
(at least to my own way of thinking). And that is that Magica never said she
thinks that the Dime is what brought $crooge his fortune; rather, she simply
knows a spell that will turn the world's most successful man's oldest
possession into a talisman which will give her the Midas Touch. And that
$crooge would never consider the Dime to be a good luck charm as he was a
failure for the first 20 years he had it, but that he still does regard it
as a symbol of his tenacity and final success, and he panics when he loses
hold of it (admittedly, a fine distinction, but the idea that $crooge owes
any iota of his success to luck goes against the most basic aspects of his
"legend").
Tommy Tran
DON: Sorry about the little mistake about Magica. I was in a rush at the time
I was writing this paper, and my High School library did not have many resources
available to me for the research of comic books. Many of the "facts" I tried
to recall from memory and some of the "Duck Tales" universe, as there was
where I started following the adventures of $crooge. I'm one of those
bookstore readers, who read many of the Gladstone Uncle Scrooge graphic
novels, without having the money to buy them. When you see my bibliography,
you will see how limited my resources were for research.

Off the top of my head, I remember that in the story that the Magica/Dime
concept was introduced, Magica was collecting the coins of many rich
"people", because she believed that those coins contained some element of
the luck that helped them make their fortunes. Magica is sold
McDuck's dime by mistake, and Scrooge ask for it back. etc...

From what I remember, Magica does believe in the power of the dime's luck,
which she wants to enhance through the spell. To her the dime is very
powerful because it has been near him for so long. I figure that Scrooge
is so worried about loosing his dime, that he pays little attention to the
rest of his fortune, much of which is managed by him alone (why spend money
hiring more managers than he needs). But I'll find out how the aura surrounding
the dime is resolved in your later stories.

I was wondering if you had anything to do with the "Duck Tales" episode of
Scrooges life story, and (because I only vaguely remember it) how much of
it transfers between the two versions.

Well, that is all of the first part of my rambling. Si erro, monetis me.
If I err, remind me. (i'm studying for a Latin test, so I decided to
get some practice in.) On with my paper:

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Epics must also contain a grand sweep that embodies the history and
culture of the country it represents (Merchant). This is definitely the case,
as Uncle Scrooge lives through almost 100 years of the countries history. He
meets historic characters that both inspire and impel him. In the grand
tradition of Mark Twain, Scrooge works for a time on the Mississippi, were he
searches for the gold of the Drennan Whyte (an actual legend ship of the time)
(Rosa 2:31). As the "Buckaroo of the Badlands", he fends off the Jameses and
"fights in the cattle wars of the old frontier" with Murdo MacKenzie (and
actual
cattle baron) (Rosa 3:16). He also receives a great deal of inspiration from
Teddy Roosevelt in his adventure in the Badlands, who becomes one of Scrooge's
role models (3:16). After many adventure, he finally becomes rich in Jack
London's Yukon. He meets Wyatt Earp himself, only to have Earp cower to
"Scrooge McDuck! The Buckaroo of the Badlands! The Maverick of the Montana
Cattle Wars! The Pizen of Pizen Bluff. . . ! Let me buy you a drink, Mr.
McDuck" (Rosa 8:2). McDuck comes to his peak when he is fighting his way
from a
seedy steam boat owned by a cut-throat:
"The whole incident was probably exaggerated in the many retellings. . .
But this was the era of the birth of legends, and the non-stop life of
Dawson paused that day to watch a new character enter the storybooks
alongside Paul Bunyan and Pecos Bill . . . Scrooge McDuck, The King of
the Klondike!" (Rosa 8:23)
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-Tommy Tran

P.S. BTW, what is the name of the program uses for the variable computer
lettering and what kind of systems does it run on? If it was mentioned,
I missed it earlier.
TKlein28
Augie:

Yes, Chris E. is doing computer lettering, for Image, and probably for DC,
though I can't say I've noticed it on Star Trek. He's given me some good
advice on the subject (which I can always use).

Don:

No, I haven't been asked about lettering LoS #0, though John may just not
have gotten to it yet. You might want to call and ask, if you think that's
appropriate. Of course, I'd be happy to do it if they ask and the deadline
isn't two days after receipt.
I for one encourage you (or David, or SOMEBODY) to let them know your Egmont
stories are available so we can get to enjoy them here.

Daniel:

I was interested to hear of computer lettering in Holland. This is something
I suspected was happening, but I don't see many non-US comics. I know that
Richard Starkings has been approached by European publishers in the past, but
they are astonished to hear his page rates, which is one reason why he
decided to release "Comic Crazy" as a commercial font.

All:

Yes, I too had heard that Indiana Jones was inspired by Barks'
$crooge. No one has responded to my question about whether any of Barks'
stories were themselves inspired by films. Just wondering...
Todd
David A Gerstein
ARTHUR:
Scenes from Disney comics reused elsewhere?
The very first Mickey Mouse comic strip story, "Lost on a
Desert Island," contains a scene where MM is being pursued by hungry
cannibals. He paints a picture of a cave on a big cliff face, then
hides behind a bush nearby so that the cannibals think he ran into the
"cave". They try to run in after him, of course, and get flattened.
Warner Bros. began to use this gag (and variants on it) in
their cartoons around 1939, and soon every studio was using it. The
gag's popularity seems to have begun with WB's use of it, but Walt
Disney himself created (?) it for comics nine years before. Now some
live-action slapstick films (i. e. TOP SECRET) have used it too.

DON:
Gladstone usually orders your stories when they see them in
the Egmont weeklies, which is long after those weeklies are published
-- they don't get them first-class or something, I imagine they just
SUBSCRIBE to the weeklies.
They'd order them sooner (when they hear you mention what
you've just finished in phone conversations, for example) but can't do
it because they don't have the D-code for the story. Our paychecks from
Egmont mention these codes, so if you make a list from those and send
it to Gladstone, they can order them from Egmont RIGHT AWAY. Egmont
will send them the material BEFORE it's published in Europe --
Gladstone just has to wait on PUBLISHING it 'til it's printed there.
The other day, I mentioned TisT to John, who asked me what the
code was so he could order it -- he hadn't seen it in a published
Egmont comic yet. I couldn't give him the code, because while I
subscribe to the Egmont weekly, they aren't sent to my school
address... anyway, I think there must be a quicker way to let
Gladstone know what's coming up and what they need to do to order the
stories. We fans would be grateful.

David Gerstein
<96dag at williams.edu>
"Have a chestnut, boys! ... OW!"
Per Starback
What's really happening with Gladstone's prices and paper qualities?
(Sorry if this has been hashed over here already -- I'm really behind
with my reading...)

I have a paper from Gladstone that says they've decided that the
newer cheaper coverless comics is the way to go, and that they are
converting all of their titles except WDC&S "to the $1.50 format".
So DD and USA will be $1.50 and have 32 pages like DDA, US and DD&MM are,
and WDC&S will be $5.95 for 64 pages, but whatabout WD Giant? It's not
mentioned here at all. Will it change?
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at minsk.docs.uu.se
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Marco Barlotti
The final scene from Bark's "Seven cities of Cibola" (can you understand
this? Alas, I only know the Italian name of the story!) with the idol which,
as soon as removed, makes everything crash, is openly the inspiration for
the BEGINNING of Indiana Jones' first film. I think Spielberg itself said
this, and if somebody is interesting maybe (maybe!) I can even find the
quotation.
By the way, speaking of "The Prize of Pizarro" (I know this name, I' ve read
it in my mail!): I loved this story since its first appearing in the 50's
(yes, I' m so old!); when , many years later, some relatives who had been
there on holiday brought me their pictures of Machu Picchu I said: but I
know this place! I must have been there sometimes, I know it so well! Yes,
Machu Picchu is undoubtedly the scenary for Barks' "TPoP", and I had read
the story so many times since my first youth that I really felt as if I had
been there. I always thought, since then, that this feeling was the greatest
proof of Barks' art.
Marco Barlotti - Dept. of Math. - University of Florence (Italy)
MARCOBAR at FACEC.CCE.UNIFI.IT
Dan Shane
I also see Magica's quest for Dime #1 as a means to achieve good fortune, not a way to snatch
good luck itself. She wants the dime, not because $$crooge got good luck from it, but because
the dime has belonged to $crooge, that's what makes it powerful in her eyes.

$$crooge is the charm to her, not the metal in the dime. She wants his rubbin's.
Wilmer Rivers
I agree with the statement (sorry, I don't remember whose)
that Barks drew on magazine articles rather than movies
for his inspiration. However, I suspect that the lamasery
of Tralla La was inspired more by the fictional lamasery
of Shangri La in the movie "Lost Horizon" (or perhaps by
the novel on which it was based) than by any actual lamasery
in "National Geographic". It was therefore appropriate that
Don Rosa called the ancient lama Tsamja Phe in his sequel
story, since that role in the movie was played by Sam Jaffee.

Although a number of Barks' stories do have similarities
with action/adventure movies filmed during the same period
that he was writing, I think the similarities are due to his
stories' and the movies' being based on the same "classic"
stock material of mythology, monsters, mummies, lost treas-
ure, etc. I seriously doubt that, after watching Boris
Karloff in "The Mummy," he said to himself, "I should do a
mummy story too!" And I feel quite sure that he never
attended a performance of Wagner's "Der Fliegende Hollander"
and came out saying, "That opera would make a good comic
book!" On the other hand, I have certainly read a lot of
Barks' stories and said, "That would make a great movie!".
Apparently, so has George Lucas.

Wilmer Rivers
David A Gerstein
PER:
Gladstone's WALT DISNEY GIANT will remain as it is, with 48
pages (including covers).
WDG 4 will contain a Jaime Diaz Goofy story, complete (a
44-page story); then WDC 5 will be a Mickey issue, although I don't
have permission yet to reveal what it will contain (it's a VERY GOOD
foreign story, though). Both of these will be the usual
thicker-than-average comics.

ALSO LEARNED FROM GLADSTONE
that WDC&S 602 will contain a Fred Milton story. "The Clock
Watcher" details how DD protects Prof. Phineas Ferkel's collection of
rare timepieces from the Beagle Boys. Also in the issue, we'll be
having a handful of Gil Turner 1-page Wolf gags, Van Horn's "Say
Uncle" (a DD story, I guess) and the second parts of "Blaggard Castle"
and "The Sword in the Stone" adaptation. Sounds good to me.

David Gerstein
<96dag at williams.edu>
Jørgen Andreas Bangor
Erik:

| I don't have the book here, but I can translate some of it
| on the list if there are others interested. If not I will send it
| private mail to you, Don, as Andreas probably understood most of it
| allready. I will return to your question then, Don.

Yes, I'm quite sure Andreas understood it :-)

I accidentally used my usual signature "JAB" instead of "Jorgen", and
since my from-header gets a little messed up by all mail-readers not
using Mime, "Andreas" is the only easy readable name (except for
"Bangor") in the header.

So, there isn't any new member, just me.

BTW, Erik. That book is so small that it disappears all the time :)

Jorgen
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