Daniel,
I goofed again, I thought it was the first panel. Anyway, thank you much.
April's Fools Day is definitely a tradition in the USA. It backfires on
some of us also, like the time when I was about 9 years old and switched the
sugar and the salt. Our Mom made potato pancakes that night that seemed a
little sweet. Worse luck, I forgot I had done it and the next morning I put
salt on my breakfast cereal. UGH. Anyway, fooling each other doesn't ONLY
happen on April 1st, it depends on the company you keep, but let's just say
that if you get a phone call on that day telling you that you have just won
a sweepstakes, be skeptical!
Kathy
Author
Topic: 199510
(299 messages)
Kathy Fitzpatrick
April 1, lemmings and indexes
Message 61 -
1995-10-08 at 06:57:09
Arthur De Wolf
"Back in Time for a Dime"
Message 62 -
1995-10-08 at 07:07:19
Hi!
GEIR:
> I'll try to ask this question again: Do you know where and when the Rosa
> script "Back in time for a dime" were published? (Drawn by Jaime Diaz
> studios).
I see a lot of you talking about this script written by Rosa. I'd also
like to know in which comic the story was published. I once saw a two-part-
story, that was printed in Disney Comics' Ducktales 17 and 18. It was
called "A dime in time" and Scrooge had to go back in time to get his lucky
dime back, which was stolen my Magica DeSpell. This can't be Don's "Back
in time for a dime"-story, because it was written by Bob Langhans. And
drawn by C. Quartieri, Robert Brat and four other guys. Was this story
created by the Jaime Diaz studios? It's coded KJT004-1 and KJT005-1.
Some strange code that Disney Comics gave all of their new stories.
But I don't know if those Quartieri and Brat people are from Jaime Diaz!
--Arthur.
GEIR:
> I'll try to ask this question again: Do you know where and when the Rosa
> script "Back in time for a dime" were published? (Drawn by Jaime Diaz
> studios).
I see a lot of you talking about this script written by Rosa. I'd also
like to know in which comic the story was published. I once saw a two-part-
story, that was printed in Disney Comics' Ducktales 17 and 18. It was
called "A dime in time" and Scrooge had to go back in time to get his lucky
dime back, which was stolen my Magica DeSpell. This can't be Don's "Back
in time for a dime"-story, because it was written by Bob Langhans. And
drawn by C. Quartieri, Robert Brat and four other guys. Was this story
created by the Jaime Diaz studios? It's coded KJT004-1 and KJT005-1.
Some strange code that Disney Comics gave all of their new stories.
But I don't know if those Quartieri and Brat people are from Jaime Diaz!
--Arthur.
Kathy Fitzpatrick
US 9
Message 63 -
1995-10-08 at 07:22:25
Knut,
<You mean the exploding thing? OK! It is "well known" in Norway that a
lemming can get so angry that it simply explodes! I'm not sure if this is
correct, but I think I once saw an explanation saying that this myth might
have been triggered by the fact (?) that a lemming _can_ be so upset by
beeing disturbed that it simply dies of a heart attack...>
I don't know about lemmings in general but small mammals such as mice and
chipmunks have extremely fast normal heart rates and which if attacted can
put them into shock and even cause cardiac arrest so to speak.
Kathy
<You mean the exploding thing? OK! It is "well known" in Norway that a
lemming can get so angry that it simply explodes! I'm not sure if this is
correct, but I think I once saw an explanation saying that this myth might
have been triggered by the fact (?) that a lemming _can_ be so upset by
beeing disturbed that it simply dies of a heart attack...>
I don't know about lemmings in general but small mammals such as mice and
chipmunks have extremely fast normal heart rates and which if attacted can
put them into shock and even cause cardiac arrest so to speak.
Kathy
Arthur De Wolf
Richest duck/man in the world
Message 64 -
1995-10-08 at 07:24:24
MARK:
> On the last page of the story, there are two references to
> Scrooge being "the richest man in the world" only it looks like
> "man" was written in by someone else. Did this originally say
> "richest duck"? And if so, what was the reason for the change?
In my Dutch version of Lo$#11 it says "Richest duck in the world".
(Well, actually it says "Rijkste eend ter wereld")
--Arthur.
> On the last page of the story, there are two references to
> Scrooge being "the richest man in the world" only it looks like
> "man" was written in by someone else. Did this originally say
> "richest duck"? And if so, what was the reason for the change?
In my Dutch version of Lo$#11 it says "Richest duck in the world".
(Well, actually it says "Rijkste eend ter wereld")
--Arthur.
Kathy Fitzpatrick
No subject
Message 65 -
1995-10-08 at 07:37:18
Bror,
Your Swedish newspapers sound like great fun! American newspapers don't
have that kind of imagination or creativity but are primarily used to sell
private agendas to the American public, much like most American TV news and
programming. Other than what is presented under the guise of "news" which
takes, I guess, some imagination. Anyway, our money is better spent on
Gladstone Comics and books. Or evening buying and playing the Lemmings
computer game.
It would be great fun if you posted the April 1st news story headlines that
are jokes every April for us.
Kathy
>On Wed, 4 Oct 1995, Daniel van Eijmeren wrote:
>
>> Brings up another question, which I have since I saw the English
>> version of the story: Is fooling each other on 1 April a worldwide
>> tradition?
>>
>> I used to think it was typical Dutch...
>
>It's very thoroughly anchored in Sweden... When I was small we used to
>have these nursery rhymes like: "April, april, din dumma sill, jag kan
>lura dig vart jag vill." Which (roughly) translates into: "April, april,
>you stupid herring, I can fool you (to go) where *I* want."
>
>An every april 1st all the newspapers and all the television news-programs
>will include at least one attempt to fool you.
>
>Classical foolings from the Swedish history of April 1st:
>
>Put a ladies stocking over your black and white TV to turn it into colour.
>How to convert a coffee-machine into a vodka-machine...
>The whole kingdom of Denmark sold to Norwegian oil-sheik. (This even
>fooled a Norwegian news-paper...) They even suggested that he paid it all
>in herring and cheese!
>
>--
>
> Steamboat Willie
>
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>They say that you should never introduce a rope golem to a succubus.
> -- A fortune cookie in the game NetHack
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>Internet: hellman at proxxi.uf.se, UFNet(ftn): hellman at 54:100/106.0
>AnimeNet European Coordinator 401:3000/0.0
>
>
>
>
Your Swedish newspapers sound like great fun! American newspapers don't
have that kind of imagination or creativity but are primarily used to sell
private agendas to the American public, much like most American TV news and
programming. Other than what is presented under the guise of "news" which
takes, I guess, some imagination. Anyway, our money is better spent on
Gladstone Comics and books. Or evening buying and playing the Lemmings
computer game.
It would be great fun if you posted the April 1st news story headlines that
are jokes every April for us.
Kathy
>On Wed, 4 Oct 1995, Daniel van Eijmeren wrote:
>
>> Brings up another question, which I have since I saw the English
>> version of the story: Is fooling each other on 1 April a worldwide
>> tradition?
>>
>> I used to think it was typical Dutch...
>
>It's very thoroughly anchored in Sweden... When I was small we used to
>have these nursery rhymes like: "April, april, din dumma sill, jag kan
>lura dig vart jag vill." Which (roughly) translates into: "April, april,
>you stupid herring, I can fool you (to go) where *I* want."
>
>An every april 1st all the newspapers and all the television news-programs
>will include at least one attempt to fool you.
>
>Classical foolings from the Swedish history of April 1st:
>
>Put a ladies stocking over your black and white TV to turn it into colour.
>How to convert a coffee-machine into a vodka-machine...
>The whole kingdom of Denmark sold to Norwegian oil-sheik. (This even
>fooled a Norwegian news-paper...) They even suggested that he paid it all
>in herring and cheese!
>
>--
>
> Steamboat Willie
>
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>They say that you should never introduce a rope golem to a succubus.
> -- A fortune cookie in the game NetHack
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>Internet: hellman at proxxi.uf.se, UFNet(ftn): hellman at 54:100/106.0
>AnimeNet European Coordinator 401:3000/0.0
>
>
>
>
Kathy Fitzpatrick
$crooge's Sentimental side
Message 66 -
1995-10-08 at 10:18:44
James, Don,
One of my favorite Uncle $crooge's sentimental moments is from Don's, "His
Majest, McDuck" (our second favorite Rosa story by the way). It is in the
beginning and ending scene when $crooge is feeding the pigeon's from his
money bin office window. The expression on $scrooge's face indicates to me
that he has learned to find happiness in this world. He just isn't too keen
on anyone else knowing about it. In the ending scene of course, he has put
the pigeon's food on the very piece of evidence he claimed he had accidently
destroyed in order to gracefully save Duckburg, if not the US of A. Two
very powerful and revealing scenes. So there!
And, James, if anyone wants to say "yuk" to your or my comments then "Fah"
to them. I reserve the right to be sloppy sentimental just as does Uncle
$crooge.
Kathy
>
>Dear Don:
>
>Well, just read "The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck" part 11. What can
>I say, but congrats, Don, on a well-written and throughly enjoyable
>story. This may have been Scrooge's "darkest" story as he finally morally
>stumbles after his long and until this point morale career.
>
>My one criticism is that ever after Scrooge's "repentance" he still has a
>great deal to answer for. Chasing others off their land, and in the way
>he did it, is obviously something he must atone for.
>
>Even in the Barks story where Donald must "pay" for Scrooge's sin,
>Scrooge seems to get off very lightly for his indiscretion. This might be
>something to draw back on in future stories (maybe).
>
>I love the ending which the little Donald and the circle of light he's
>in. It's a perfect intro for the two and it certainly foreshadows the
>coming protagonist/antagonist relationship between the two. Still, there
>is something very tender between the two, and it may be that link to
>Hortense that does it.
>
>In a strange way, I see this story taking on a Dickensian parallel. Just
>as Ebenezer Scrooge turned bitter after his sister's death and the loss
>of his family, so too, is this happening to Scrooge McDuck.
>
>Don, I can hardly wait for the Christmas story, and I hope it ties
>everything up with a sentimental, yet positive ending. From you earlier
>letter, I know you compared the difference between Donald, the happy
>failure, and Scrooge, the not-so happy success. Barks' ending to a "Poor
>Old Man" is referred heavily, and while there is some truth to Scrooge
>learning to be happy with what he has, I don't believe that is the whole
>story. While Scrooge may seem to be on the surface, this crusty, bitter
>old duck; the readers know that there is much more to him than that hard
>shelled exterior. It may never be in your power to do so, but if there
>ever was a "last" Scrooge McDuck story, it would give me great
>satisfaction to know that he would recouncile with Goldie, or even the
>memories of his beloved lost family.
>
>Just a thought that I know everybody is going "yuck" at.
>
>
>One last question Don: How many Duck stories have you written that
>haven't been published in the states yet?
>
>James Smith III
>Williston ND
>
>
One of my favorite Uncle $crooge's sentimental moments is from Don's, "His
Majest, McDuck" (our second favorite Rosa story by the way). It is in the
beginning and ending scene when $crooge is feeding the pigeon's from his
money bin office window. The expression on $scrooge's face indicates to me
that he has learned to find happiness in this world. He just isn't too keen
on anyone else knowing about it. In the ending scene of course, he has put
the pigeon's food on the very piece of evidence he claimed he had accidently
destroyed in order to gracefully save Duckburg, if not the US of A. Two
very powerful and revealing scenes. So there!
And, James, if anyone wants to say "yuk" to your or my comments then "Fah"
to them. I reserve the right to be sloppy sentimental just as does Uncle
$crooge.
Kathy
>
>Dear Don:
>
>Well, just read "The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck" part 11. What can
>I say, but congrats, Don, on a well-written and throughly enjoyable
>story. This may have been Scrooge's "darkest" story as he finally morally
>stumbles after his long and until this point morale career.
>
>My one criticism is that ever after Scrooge's "repentance" he still has a
>great deal to answer for. Chasing others off their land, and in the way
>he did it, is obviously something he must atone for.
>
>Even in the Barks story where Donald must "pay" for Scrooge's sin,
>Scrooge seems to get off very lightly for his indiscretion. This might be
>something to draw back on in future stories (maybe).
>
>I love the ending which the little Donald and the circle of light he's
>in. It's a perfect intro for the two and it certainly foreshadows the
>coming protagonist/antagonist relationship between the two. Still, there
>is something very tender between the two, and it may be that link to
>Hortense that does it.
>
>In a strange way, I see this story taking on a Dickensian parallel. Just
>as Ebenezer Scrooge turned bitter after his sister's death and the loss
>of his family, so too, is this happening to Scrooge McDuck.
>
>Don, I can hardly wait for the Christmas story, and I hope it ties
>everything up with a sentimental, yet positive ending. From you earlier
>letter, I know you compared the difference between Donald, the happy
>failure, and Scrooge, the not-so happy success. Barks' ending to a "Poor
>Old Man" is referred heavily, and while there is some truth to Scrooge
>learning to be happy with what he has, I don't believe that is the whole
>story. While Scrooge may seem to be on the surface, this crusty, bitter
>old duck; the readers know that there is much more to him than that hard
>shelled exterior. It may never be in your power to do so, but if there
>ever was a "last" Scrooge McDuck story, it would give me great
>satisfaction to know that he would recouncile with Goldie, or even the
>memories of his beloved lost family.
>
>Just a thought that I know everybody is going "yuck" at.
>
>
>One last question Don: How many Duck stories have you written that
>haven't been published in the states yet?
>
>James Smith III
>Williston ND
>
>
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Donald Duck Extra 10
Message 67 -
1995-10-08 at 11:26:04
DON:
Your 10-page story "Incident at McDuck Tower" is published in the
monthly "Donald Duck Extra" here in Holland. I liked the gag with
Donald's hands being pinched in a window and it was also fun to see
the psychiatrist from Barks' 10-pager with the toffees (WDC 175).
ALL:
Also a Van Horn-story is published in this "DD Extra" (D93049), I
don't know the title. It is about the nephews who don't want to rake
autumn leaves in the garden. They decide to go on strike, Donald's
answer to this is that he also decides to go on strike (which means
that he starts cooking only for himself).
Although I am not very fond of Van Horn's work, I like this one.
It is a good improvement to see Van Horn working with the 4-stroke
format. It is also good to see Van Horn's ducks looking better in
this story.
--- Daniel
Your 10-page story "Incident at McDuck Tower" is published in the
monthly "Donald Duck Extra" here in Holland. I liked the gag with
Donald's hands being pinched in a window and it was also fun to see
the psychiatrist from Barks' 10-pager with the toffees (WDC 175).
ALL:
Also a Van Horn-story is published in this "DD Extra" (D93049), I
don't know the title. It is about the nephews who don't want to rake
autumn leaves in the garden. They decide to go on strike, Donald's
answer to this is that he also decides to go on strike (which means
that he starts cooking only for himself).
Although I am not very fond of Van Horn's work, I like this one.
It is a good improvement to see Van Horn working with the 4-stroke
format. It is also good to see Van Horn's ducks looking better in
this story.
--- Daniel
Mike Pohjola
Disney-comics digest #807.
Message 68 -
1995-10-08 at 14:04:27
DON:
Yes, the coins were fine. And as Finnish marks nowaday have golden
color, it probably didn't bother the readers. Btw, did American coins in
1955 look different than the ones today?
The hand-gag was (half) there. Oil-tanker, yes. Pink, no. And there
they still colored the hand as being flesh, not pink. Maybe the colorer thought
that since 176-167 had been letting his hair grow, he had probably done it to
keep his head (which had had too much sun and became pink) covered.
How do you add HALF a page to a story?
BILL:
Well, after a few very early versions of Donald (the chicken cartoon),
I think he's been looking very much the same (not considering the variaties in
artists, of course) after 1940s.
--
Mike - The Finnish Trekkie
Yes, the coins were fine. And as Finnish marks nowaday have golden
color, it probably didn't bother the readers. Btw, did American coins in
1955 look different than the ones today?
The hand-gag was (half) there. Oil-tanker, yes. Pink, no. And there
they still colored the hand as being flesh, not pink. Maybe the colorer thought
that since 176-167 had been letting his hair grow, he had probably done it to
keep his head (which had had too much sun and became pink) covered.
How do you add HALF a page to a story?
BILL:
Well, after a few very early versions of Donald (the chicken cartoon),
I think he's been looking very much the same (not considering the variaties in
artists, of course) after 1940s.
--
Mike - The Finnish Trekkie
Don Rosa
Disney-comics digest #808.
Message 69 -
1995-10-08 at 16:10:00
JAMES:
Well, maybe $crooge did get off light in both Barks' "Voodoo Hoodoo"
and in my chapter XI. But don't expect me to ever address that incident
again! I think my use of that story at all was a tricky step -- my better
judgement told me to ignore it. But then, I'm afraid the dark aspect that
episode puts into the series is the only thing that gives some special
meaning to the final chapter. Otherwise the story would have ended at White
Agony Creek or with the building of the Money Bin. And I'm sure that many
readers will say that's where it SHOULD have ended. Could be. I never say
that what I do is good, or right. Those readers can decide that chapter 10
was the final chapter, and I'll be defending their right to do so. My
problem, of course, is that I view these characters far too seriously. I see
the stories as comedy-dramas rather than comedies. Oh well -- one man's meat
is another man's poison.
The one part of the story that I also liked the most was Donald's
first encounter with $crooge. I think I did that just right. And one of the
panels I just added to part XII completes that moment.
I never recalled that it was also Ebenezer Scrooge's loss of his
family that was partly what turned him sour. And I'm quite familiar with
that tale! No doubt it was in my subconcious mind.
Which of my stories have yet to see print in America? We do this
about once a month: "War of the Wendigo", "Of Ducks and Dimes and
Destinies","The Treasury of Croesus","The Universal Solvent","The Incredible
Shrinking Tightwad","The Lost Charts of Columbus","An Eye for Detail","The
Once and Future Duck", and "The Tenth Avatar". Maybe another that slips my
mind -- I don't keep track of it all.
MARK:
I am always so careful about anachronisms! When I copied Barks'
panel showing young $crooge shining shoes with elastic suspenders, I first
went to great trouble to see when elastic was invented, and determined that
it was long after $crooge's youth (but I used the panel anyhow). And yet, I
don't recall checking to see if I had Lincoln on too early a coin. It's the
sort of thing I'd do, and since it just barely was correct, I'll assume I
checked. But did I actually say Washington was on that "quarter dollar", or
do I just have $crooge refer to the figure as "chief"? I don't have the
comic here to check.
I don't know if my original script said "man" or "duck", or what the
official script said... but "man" would be the only possible correct word in
that case, since there was only one other Duck on that "roster", Flintheart
Glomgold, but that was a scene cut from the final version. (Glomgold also
appeared in a cut scene.) I think it would sound odd to say "richest mammal
in the world" or "richest creature"... so it has to be "man". Besides, I
really see the Ducks as humans, same as those dog-people.
GEIR:
"Back in Time for a Dime" was done for an early issue of that
"DUCKTALES" children's magazine. I was unemployed at the time, just having
been compelled to quit working for Gladstone in 1989, and decided to write a
story for them even though it had characters in it like "Webby" and "Bubba
Duck" simply because they called me and offered a nice fee. But I had some
difficulty collecting that fee, so I didn't try to do any further stories
for them.
I keep using far more than the space I should be allowed on here
before I get to that list of closet-junk in "The Incredible Shrinking
Tightwad". Next time, maybe...?
Well, maybe $crooge did get off light in both Barks' "Voodoo Hoodoo"
and in my chapter XI. But don't expect me to ever address that incident
again! I think my use of that story at all was a tricky step -- my better
judgement told me to ignore it. But then, I'm afraid the dark aspect that
episode puts into the series is the only thing that gives some special
meaning to the final chapter. Otherwise the story would have ended at White
Agony Creek or with the building of the Money Bin. And I'm sure that many
readers will say that's where it SHOULD have ended. Could be. I never say
that what I do is good, or right. Those readers can decide that chapter 10
was the final chapter, and I'll be defending their right to do so. My
problem, of course, is that I view these characters far too seriously. I see
the stories as comedy-dramas rather than comedies. Oh well -- one man's meat
is another man's poison.
The one part of the story that I also liked the most was Donald's
first encounter with $crooge. I think I did that just right. And one of the
panels I just added to part XII completes that moment.
I never recalled that it was also Ebenezer Scrooge's loss of his
family that was partly what turned him sour. And I'm quite familiar with
that tale! No doubt it was in my subconcious mind.
Which of my stories have yet to see print in America? We do this
about once a month: "War of the Wendigo", "Of Ducks and Dimes and
Destinies","The Treasury of Croesus","The Universal Solvent","The Incredible
Shrinking Tightwad","The Lost Charts of Columbus","An Eye for Detail","The
Once and Future Duck", and "The Tenth Avatar". Maybe another that slips my
mind -- I don't keep track of it all.
MARK:
I am always so careful about anachronisms! When I copied Barks'
panel showing young $crooge shining shoes with elastic suspenders, I first
went to great trouble to see when elastic was invented, and determined that
it was long after $crooge's youth (but I used the panel anyhow). And yet, I
don't recall checking to see if I had Lincoln on too early a coin. It's the
sort of thing I'd do, and since it just barely was correct, I'll assume I
checked. But did I actually say Washington was on that "quarter dollar", or
do I just have $crooge refer to the figure as "chief"? I don't have the
comic here to check.
I don't know if my original script said "man" or "duck", or what the
official script said... but "man" would be the only possible correct word in
that case, since there was only one other Duck on that "roster", Flintheart
Glomgold, but that was a scene cut from the final version. (Glomgold also
appeared in a cut scene.) I think it would sound odd to say "richest mammal
in the world" or "richest creature"... so it has to be "man". Besides, I
really see the Ducks as humans, same as those dog-people.
GEIR:
"Back in Time for a Dime" was done for an early issue of that
"DUCKTALES" children's magazine. I was unemployed at the time, just having
been compelled to quit working for Gladstone in 1989, and decided to write a
story for them even though it had characters in it like "Webby" and "Bubba
Duck" simply because they called me and offered a nice fee. But I had some
difficulty collecting that fee, so I didn't try to do any further stories
for them.
I keep using far more than the space I should be allowed on here
before I get to that list of closet-junk in "The Incredible Shrinking
Tightwad". Next time, maybe...?
Mark Mayerson
Gladstone sleeze
Message 70 -
1995-10-08 at 17:06:51
Augie De Blieck Jr. wrote:
> I wasn't the only one who found the reprint of The Cold-Blooded Penguin a
> little bit odd. I had a private e-mail or two expressing
> dissatisfaction. Others publicly questioned its inclusion. I was
> sickened to find it was included only so Bruce Hamilton could sell the
> original art from it.
This isn't the first time Hamilton has done this. Several years ago,
he published a trade paperback of Otto Messmer-Joe Oriolo Felix the Cat
comics. At the back of the book, there was an add for all the original
artwork that had been used.
There were originally supposed to be three color volumes. After volume
one went on sale, vols. two and three were supposed to come out in black and
white, but they never came out at all. My guess is that the sale of the
book and artwork didn't justify the expense of further volumes.
It's clear that Hamilton purchased the Penguin artwork, recouped some of his
investment by printing it and hoped to make a profit by selling it.
How many other Disney collectors can cut their costs by legally
publishing Disney artwork? Hamilton is in a unique position and he's
taking advantage of it. Besides providing content for his magazines, he
gets a free catalog and ad out of it. We've yet to see if he was successful
at selling the art. If he was, expect to see more of this.
___________________________________________________________________
Mark Mayerson Catapult Productions
Internet: mayerson at sidefx.com Toronto, Ontario, Canada
In Production: Monster By Mistake (416) 504-9876
> I wasn't the only one who found the reprint of The Cold-Blooded Penguin a
> little bit odd. I had a private e-mail or two expressing
> dissatisfaction. Others publicly questioned its inclusion. I was
> sickened to find it was included only so Bruce Hamilton could sell the
> original art from it.
This isn't the first time Hamilton has done this. Several years ago,
he published a trade paperback of Otto Messmer-Joe Oriolo Felix the Cat
comics. At the back of the book, there was an add for all the original
artwork that had been used.
There were originally supposed to be three color volumes. After volume
one went on sale, vols. two and three were supposed to come out in black and
white, but they never came out at all. My guess is that the sale of the
book and artwork didn't justify the expense of further volumes.
It's clear that Hamilton purchased the Penguin artwork, recouped some of his
investment by printing it and hoped to make a profit by selling it.
How many other Disney collectors can cut their costs by legally
publishing Disney artwork? Hamilton is in a unique position and he's
taking advantage of it. Besides providing content for his magazines, he
gets a free catalog and ad out of it. We've yet to see if he was successful
at selling the art. If he was, expect to see more of this.
___________________________________________________________________
Mark Mayerson Catapult Productions
Internet: mayerson at sidefx.com Toronto, Ontario, Canada
In Production: Monster By Mistake (416) 504-9876
David A Gerstein
Disney-comics digest #808.
Message 71 -
1995-10-08 at 19:34:57
ARTHUR:
Quartieri and Bat do work for the Jaime Diaz studios. Since
Disney Comics went belly-up, they've been drawing Bugs and Daffy stuff
for DC (including Dave Rawson's "Toot Suite", published last spring),
for whatever that's worth.
The story in Disney Comics DUCKTALES 17 and 18 is absolutely
NOT related, in any way, to Don Rosa's short DT story (which I haven't
seen, a unique case among Rosa stories).
DON:
Glad to hear that Grandma Duck's husband got his correct name
in WDC&S 600. But if they spelled it Humperdinck (as you said),
there's been a mistake. There's no "c" in the name... it's
HumperDINK, as I wrote in my letters to you on the topic.
I'll have some comments on LO$ 11 and WDC&S 600 when I
actually see them... which ought to be Monday in these parts, when a
package from Mark Semich will probably arrive here. Thanks Mark!
THE NEW FERNANDEZ AND BLOCK STORY (DDA 35)
is now in my possession. I think the art in this one is Pat
Block's best so far (the first two pages, however, aren't as good as
the others... but it gets better as it goes along). I like Scrooge
kicking Donald to emphasize the points he's trying to make, too...
call me an old-line slapstick fan, I guess. Block drew those pictures
extremely well, I thought.
The characters' personalities were very well-done for the most
part. Lawyer Sharky, being a lawyer, had one weakness -- he didn't
think about how much money his activities cost (typical, for a
stereotypical lawyer). I didn't mind this Achilles-heel being added
to Barks' character, since it was well-presented as a side of him we
hadn't seen before. I also liked Scrooge's warm grin as he figured
out how HDL were planning to trick him into liking Halloween again.
He clearly knew something was up when the devil-costumed nephew led
him through Grandma's "haunted" house, but played along with it in a
spirit of increasing warmth. I liked that.
The downside of the story was, as has been mentioned, its
disjointedness. There were, I think, too many strands in the story
for its 28-page length. Although I loved the Beagle Boys subplot,
maybe it should have been removed; instead, we could have had a more
detailed explanation of Scrooge's plans at the start of the tale.
Some of you asked why Scrooge, supposedly to save money, would
buy all the Halloween trimmings in town -- which, of course, would be
a lot more expensive for him than the normal holiday expenses he
griped about. Actually, as Pat Block has told me, Scrooge hoped to
wipe out the Duckburg Halloween market FOR GOOD -- so that nobody
would bother trying to sell Halloween stuff in Duckburg EVER again.
But this wasn't made very clear in the story.
Still, I enjoyed this effort, and I look forward to more from
this team (the next one will be a 16-page story in DDA 37, I'm told).
David Gerstein
<96dag at williams.edu>
Quartieri and Bat do work for the Jaime Diaz studios. Since
Disney Comics went belly-up, they've been drawing Bugs and Daffy stuff
for DC (including Dave Rawson's "Toot Suite", published last spring),
for whatever that's worth.
The story in Disney Comics DUCKTALES 17 and 18 is absolutely
NOT related, in any way, to Don Rosa's short DT story (which I haven't
seen, a unique case among Rosa stories).
DON:
Glad to hear that Grandma Duck's husband got his correct name
in WDC&S 600. But if they spelled it Humperdinck (as you said),
there's been a mistake. There's no "c" in the name... it's
HumperDINK, as I wrote in my letters to you on the topic.
I'll have some comments on LO$ 11 and WDC&S 600 when I
actually see them... which ought to be Monday in these parts, when a
package from Mark Semich will probably arrive here. Thanks Mark!
THE NEW FERNANDEZ AND BLOCK STORY (DDA 35)
is now in my possession. I think the art in this one is Pat
Block's best so far (the first two pages, however, aren't as good as
the others... but it gets better as it goes along). I like Scrooge
kicking Donald to emphasize the points he's trying to make, too...
call me an old-line slapstick fan, I guess. Block drew those pictures
extremely well, I thought.
The characters' personalities were very well-done for the most
part. Lawyer Sharky, being a lawyer, had one weakness -- he didn't
think about how much money his activities cost (typical, for a
stereotypical lawyer). I didn't mind this Achilles-heel being added
to Barks' character, since it was well-presented as a side of him we
hadn't seen before. I also liked Scrooge's warm grin as he figured
out how HDL were planning to trick him into liking Halloween again.
He clearly knew something was up when the devil-costumed nephew led
him through Grandma's "haunted" house, but played along with it in a
spirit of increasing warmth. I liked that.
The downside of the story was, as has been mentioned, its
disjointedness. There were, I think, too many strands in the story
for its 28-page length. Although I loved the Beagle Boys subplot,
maybe it should have been removed; instead, we could have had a more
detailed explanation of Scrooge's plans at the start of the tale.
Some of you asked why Scrooge, supposedly to save money, would
buy all the Halloween trimmings in town -- which, of course, would be
a lot more expensive for him than the normal holiday expenses he
griped about. Actually, as Pat Block has told me, Scrooge hoped to
wipe out the Duckburg Halloween market FOR GOOD -- so that nobody
would bother trying to sell Halloween stuff in Duckburg EVER again.
But this wasn't made very clear in the story.
Still, I enjoyed this effort, and I look forward to more from
this team (the next one will be a 16-page story in DDA 37, I'm told).
David Gerstein
<96dag at williams.edu>
Jørgen Andreas Bangor
Quite a few comments
Message 72 -
1995-10-08 at 20:59:32
At last it seems that I have a little time to write about Disney
comics again.
John:
I'm glad you can use my reviews. After the comments I've got, on the
list, and in private mail, I know that I'm not vasting my time.
| Actually, I wish your reviews were collected in the archives for reference.
| Or are they already and I've missed them?
Well, they are... in the archive, along with everything that has ever
been sent to the list. I wouldn't mind having them stored in a way
where they would be a little more easy to find, but I think there is
one (or several...) problem with them. There are a lot of mistakes in
them, which are corrected in later letters, and quite a lot of them
started discussions, which brought up information that maybe should
have been in the original review if it should be put in a more easy-
to-find place. Or maybe it shouldn't? A recent example:
In the last review I wrote, there was a quite bad (terrible actually)
Mickey story, probably written by Per Erik Hedman. Dwight told us
that it probably was written by him. Also according to Dwight, Hedman
writes a lot of stories. His other stories might be as bad as this one,
or many of them might be very good. I have no idea, since this is the
only story I've seen by him (possibly him). Then Jorgen's reviews would
contain information about _one_ Hedman story, and it would be a really
bad one. That wouldn't be very nice to Hedman. Maybe he would deserve
it, but I hope he doesn't.
I could strip off my opinions from the reviews, but that doesn't sound
very good either. That would make them boring, and from the comments
I've got from you writers out there, I don't think they would be very
useful to anyone.
Any thoughts?
| Of course, that's easy for me to say--particularly in this case since
| you liked the lead story (D94111 "The Swell of Success") in DD & Co #37.
| Yup, I wrote it. I'm glad it seemed to work for you.
Yup, I liked it. I think you handled (at least the translator did, but
I guess he had to work from something :-) the language very good. Too
few writers take good enough care of the language, in addition to a good
story, IMHO. David recognized a few of your short stories just from the
language right before you came on the list, BTW.
| D 93155 AA 34/95 5 FIFTY-CENT FRENZY
I must admit that I didn't like that one very much. The gag at the end
wasn't bad, but I think the story was a bit too long.
The art (looks like Xavi) wasn't very good either.
Jacob (the Swedish one):
| Do we have any Norwegian guy around here?
You do know what the two or three letter abbreviation in the end of
the address means? :-) (although we do have an Italian posting from a
UK address...).
Thanks for that translation, BTW (Hmmm... I think I actually could
have read the original text).
Frank:
| (about the Rota story D94046) Do you know what languages these new
| Rota stories have been published in?
I think this has been answered by someone else, but anyway. Since these
are Egmont stories they have probably been published in Norwegian, Swedish,
Finnish, Danish, Icelandic, German, and at least some of them in English
(and probably quite a few other languages). But... I don't _know_ of any
other than the Norwegian, except that David said that one quite recent
story was published in the UK.
1. April
--------
On 1. April my mother used to tell me there was a fire engine parked
in the garden. I just _had_ to check. Every year.
There was a good one in a newspaper in Fredrikstad some years ago, BTW.
It told that a mammoth was being dug out of the ground, in the park
around the biggest church in the town. Then they photograpehd all the
people who came to watch it.
Jorgen
comics again.
John:
I'm glad you can use my reviews. After the comments I've got, on the
list, and in private mail, I know that I'm not vasting my time.
| Actually, I wish your reviews were collected in the archives for reference.
| Or are they already and I've missed them?
Well, they are... in the archive, along with everything that has ever
been sent to the list. I wouldn't mind having them stored in a way
where they would be a little more easy to find, but I think there is
one (or several...) problem with them. There are a lot of mistakes in
them, which are corrected in later letters, and quite a lot of them
started discussions, which brought up information that maybe should
have been in the original review if it should be put in a more easy-
to-find place. Or maybe it shouldn't? A recent example:
In the last review I wrote, there was a quite bad (terrible actually)
Mickey story, probably written by Per Erik Hedman. Dwight told us
that it probably was written by him. Also according to Dwight, Hedman
writes a lot of stories. His other stories might be as bad as this one,
or many of them might be very good. I have no idea, since this is the
only story I've seen by him (possibly him). Then Jorgen's reviews would
contain information about _one_ Hedman story, and it would be a really
bad one. That wouldn't be very nice to Hedman. Maybe he would deserve
it, but I hope he doesn't.
I could strip off my opinions from the reviews, but that doesn't sound
very good either. That would make them boring, and from the comments
I've got from you writers out there, I don't think they would be very
useful to anyone.
Any thoughts?
| Of course, that's easy for me to say--particularly in this case since
| you liked the lead story (D94111 "The Swell of Success") in DD & Co #37.
| Yup, I wrote it. I'm glad it seemed to work for you.
Yup, I liked it. I think you handled (at least the translator did, but
I guess he had to work from something :-) the language very good. Too
few writers take good enough care of the language, in addition to a good
story, IMHO. David recognized a few of your short stories just from the
language right before you came on the list, BTW.
| D 93155 AA 34/95 5 FIFTY-CENT FRENZY
I must admit that I didn't like that one very much. The gag at the end
wasn't bad, but I think the story was a bit too long.
The art (looks like Xavi) wasn't very good either.
Jacob (the Swedish one):
| Do we have any Norwegian guy around here?
You do know what the two or three letter abbreviation in the end of
the address means? :-) (although we do have an Italian posting from a
UK address...).
Thanks for that translation, BTW (Hmmm... I think I actually could
have read the original text).
Frank:
| (about the Rota story D94046) Do you know what languages these new
| Rota stories have been published in?
I think this has been answered by someone else, but anyway. Since these
are Egmont stories they have probably been published in Norwegian, Swedish,
Finnish, Danish, Icelandic, German, and at least some of them in English
(and probably quite a few other languages). But... I don't _know_ of any
other than the Norwegian, except that David said that one quite recent
story was published in the UK.
1. April
--------
On 1. April my mother used to tell me there was a fire engine parked
in the garden. I just _had_ to check. Every year.
There was a good one in a newspaper in Fredrikstad some years ago, BTW.
It told that a mammoth was being dug out of the ground, in the park
around the biggest church in the town. Then they photograpehd all the
people who came to watch it.
Jorgen
Cdoberman
Disney-comics digest #807.
Message 73 -
1995-10-08 at 21:32:54
Don:
"And chapter XI of the "Lo$" was printed completely intact. I'm
surprised and pleased. Guns pointing at beaks, the destruction of the native
village, Bombie, everything is there."
I have two thoughts on why it might have gotten by Disney's random censors:
1) Disney's recent flick, "Pocahantas," used some of these similar themes,
and 2) Two Eisner Awards is nothing to take lightly.
Regardless, getting anything past Disney's PC lawyers is lucky, so we can all
consider ourselves very lucky to have seen the story printed the way you had
hoped.
A great story! And I loved seeing the Eisner's acknowledged on cover.
-- Wes
"And chapter XI of the "Lo$" was printed completely intact. I'm
surprised and pleased. Guns pointing at beaks, the destruction of the native
village, Bombie, everything is there."
I have two thoughts on why it might have gotten by Disney's random censors:
1) Disney's recent flick, "Pocahantas," used some of these similar themes,
and 2) Two Eisner Awards is nothing to take lightly.
Regardless, getting anything past Disney's PC lawyers is lucky, so we can all
consider ourselves very lucky to have seen the story printed the way you had
hoped.
A great story! And I loved seeing the Eisner's acknowledged on cover.
-- Wes
Jørgen Andreas Bangor
DD&Co #38
Message 74 -
1995-10-08 at 21:36:38
Donald Duck & Co #38 1995
-------------------------
- Cover D-11172. Donald is very stuck in a harp.
- Donald Duck, D93361, 12 pages. Art by Vicar.
Magica is in Duckburg, and Scrooge is as always trying to
find a way to get rid of her. Donald has a lot of ideas in this
story. His first is to go to Indizia to find a wizard who they'll
ask to do something with Magica. His next is to hide the first
coin in the bin, with all the other coins. Scrooge is the only one
who'll find it there. After some trouble, mostly caused by a quite
unlucky Magica, they find the wizard. But he has stopped playing
with magic. Suddenly he sees the book where Donald got the information
about him. He agrees to do something to Magica in trade for the book.
In the book the wizard can read about his old friends. The wizard
is old and tired, but he can at least make Magica keep away from
Scrooge for a year. Donald, encouraged by all his good ideas, makes
a call to Duckburg, and tell all the guards to go home. They aren't
needed anymore now when Magica isn't any threat. But the Beagle Boys
are...
A quite good story. The writer knows his Barks. For a moment I
thought the end was a little simple, but the Beagle Boys saved
it. The art is okay.
- The Beagle Boys, D94019, 6 pages.
The Beagle Boys are released from prison, if they agree to
test the security of a new bank. In front of a quite unpleasent
audience, consisting of bank people, they show what they can do.
The bank, which doesn't look like it want any customers either,
fights back very well. The BBs rob the audience instead, and then
drive away in a car. The bank can fight that to. It has a helicopter
with a magnet, and since the bank is as difficult to get out of
as to get into, the BBs are put in the bank, while waiting for
the police.
A very simple story, and quite uninspired art.
- Donald Duck, D90341, 10 pages. The art looks like Scalabroni.
Donald is hired to scare away a lot of eagles from Duckburg
airport. He has invented a machine to scare them. Donald wants
HDL to come out there to help him. They bring with them a small
bird, Goliat, which they have trained. Donald doesn't think that
little thing can help him (do I sense something here?). Donalds
machine sends small speakers up in the air. Then he sends some
terrible music to them. It does have some effect on the eagles.
Two of them fall down and destroy the transmitter. The angry
eagles then bring Donald up in the air, and drop him on the
same transmitter. Then Goliat fools the big birds to fly too
near the air intake of an airliner.
The president of the local vintage car club then hires Donald
to remove a small bird from an old car. The bird has built a
nest in the engine. Donald says that _his_ Goliat can fix this.
He can't. He falls in love with the other bird. Then a fight
between Donald an Goliat starts. This ends with catastrophe, of
course. Later they crusifie Donald so that he can scare away
the birds.
A quite good story. The art, although a bit simple, isn't
bad.
- Mickey Mouse, D93303, 8+ pages, total 16 pages. Story by
Michael Gilbert, art by Ferioli.
Last part of the very good rubber Mickey story. I've
already told about the plot, so telling the rest would be to
spoil it for those of you who haven't seen it yet. This is a
story which I believe will be published by Gladstone some day.
- Donald Duck, KF 6.19.49. Bob Karp, Al Taliaferro.
Jorgen
-------------------------
- Cover D-11172. Donald is very stuck in a harp.
- Donald Duck, D93361, 12 pages. Art by Vicar.
Magica is in Duckburg, and Scrooge is as always trying to
find a way to get rid of her. Donald has a lot of ideas in this
story. His first is to go to Indizia to find a wizard who they'll
ask to do something with Magica. His next is to hide the first
coin in the bin, with all the other coins. Scrooge is the only one
who'll find it there. After some trouble, mostly caused by a quite
unlucky Magica, they find the wizard. But he has stopped playing
with magic. Suddenly he sees the book where Donald got the information
about him. He agrees to do something to Magica in trade for the book.
In the book the wizard can read about his old friends. The wizard
is old and tired, but he can at least make Magica keep away from
Scrooge for a year. Donald, encouraged by all his good ideas, makes
a call to Duckburg, and tell all the guards to go home. They aren't
needed anymore now when Magica isn't any threat. But the Beagle Boys
are...
A quite good story. The writer knows his Barks. For a moment I
thought the end was a little simple, but the Beagle Boys saved
it. The art is okay.
- The Beagle Boys, D94019, 6 pages.
The Beagle Boys are released from prison, if they agree to
test the security of a new bank. In front of a quite unpleasent
audience, consisting of bank people, they show what they can do.
The bank, which doesn't look like it want any customers either,
fights back very well. The BBs rob the audience instead, and then
drive away in a car. The bank can fight that to. It has a helicopter
with a magnet, and since the bank is as difficult to get out of
as to get into, the BBs are put in the bank, while waiting for
the police.
A very simple story, and quite uninspired art.
- Donald Duck, D90341, 10 pages. The art looks like Scalabroni.
Donald is hired to scare away a lot of eagles from Duckburg
airport. He has invented a machine to scare them. Donald wants
HDL to come out there to help him. They bring with them a small
bird, Goliat, which they have trained. Donald doesn't think that
little thing can help him (do I sense something here?). Donalds
machine sends small speakers up in the air. Then he sends some
terrible music to them. It does have some effect on the eagles.
Two of them fall down and destroy the transmitter. The angry
eagles then bring Donald up in the air, and drop him on the
same transmitter. Then Goliat fools the big birds to fly too
near the air intake of an airliner.
The president of the local vintage car club then hires Donald
to remove a small bird from an old car. The bird has built a
nest in the engine. Donald says that _his_ Goliat can fix this.
He can't. He falls in love with the other bird. Then a fight
between Donald an Goliat starts. This ends with catastrophe, of
course. Later they crusifie Donald so that he can scare away
the birds.
A quite good story. The art, although a bit simple, isn't
bad.
- Mickey Mouse, D93303, 8+ pages, total 16 pages. Story by
Michael Gilbert, art by Ferioli.
Last part of the very good rubber Mickey story. I've
already told about the plot, so telling the rest would be to
spoil it for those of you who haven't seen it yet. This is a
story which I believe will be published by Gladstone some day.
- Donald Duck, KF 6.19.49. Bob Karp, Al Taliaferro.
Jorgen
Jørgen Andreas Bangor
DD&Co #39
Message 75 -
1995-10-08 at 22:15:51
Donald Duck & Co #39 1995
-------------------------
- Cover D-11830. Two of the nephews have made paper planes of
Donald's newspaper. This makes it a little difficult to read.
- Donald Duck, D92408, 12 pages. Art by Vicar.
Donald is a jongleur. His agent has got a job for him at
a club. That evening the owner of the club is also there.
Donald start by throwing some rotten fruit in the air. This
works very well until a girl from another show throws a kiss
to him. Then most of the rotten fruit hit the owner. Donald
is thrown out, and will never get any job in Duckburg again.
The owner goes on a vacation. Donald does get a job though,
at a hotel on Costa Contrasta. He's supposed to entertain the
children there. The owner of that club is having his vacation
there. You can imagine the rest. At least almost. The owner
must hide from som mafia people, and a good way to hide is
as Donalds partner.
Not too bad. Not very original, though. Quite good art.
- Mickey Mouse, G-RC-9011, 1 page.
This is a short criminal story where the reader is
supposed to solve the problem. The art is very similar to
a lot of Mickey stories from the late seventies and early
eighties (stories from Gutenberghus, later Egmont).
- Mickey Mouse, D92410, 10 pages. Art by Esteban.
Another Zoom-transport story...
Mickey and Goofy are hired to bring an old letter to a
scientist. The letter probably tells about some hidden
treasure, but it will have to be decoded. Idgit the Midget
and Dangerous Dan McBoo want the treasure. They catch Mickey
and Goofy and put them in a quite tricky situation including
a cliff, a jar, a rope and a tree. A quite funny episode
actually, although I think it would have looked better in
an action movie. The rest of the story is too simple.
It's difficult to criticise Esteban for his art here,
since I know he can do it much better when he's not drawing
like Paul Murry.
- Uncle Scrroge, D94202, 8+ pages. Don Rosa.
You'll have to wait till you see it yourselves ;-)
A wonderful story.
- Goofy, KF 11.28.76, one page.
Jorgen
-------------------------
- Cover D-11830. Two of the nephews have made paper planes of
Donald's newspaper. This makes it a little difficult to read.
- Donald Duck, D92408, 12 pages. Art by Vicar.
Donald is a jongleur. His agent has got a job for him at
a club. That evening the owner of the club is also there.
Donald start by throwing some rotten fruit in the air. This
works very well until a girl from another show throws a kiss
to him. Then most of the rotten fruit hit the owner. Donald
is thrown out, and will never get any job in Duckburg again.
The owner goes on a vacation. Donald does get a job though,
at a hotel on Costa Contrasta. He's supposed to entertain the
children there. The owner of that club is having his vacation
there. You can imagine the rest. At least almost. The owner
must hide from som mafia people, and a good way to hide is
as Donalds partner.
Not too bad. Not very original, though. Quite good art.
- Mickey Mouse, G-RC-9011, 1 page.
This is a short criminal story where the reader is
supposed to solve the problem. The art is very similar to
a lot of Mickey stories from the late seventies and early
eighties (stories from Gutenberghus, later Egmont).
- Mickey Mouse, D92410, 10 pages. Art by Esteban.
Another Zoom-transport story...
Mickey and Goofy are hired to bring an old letter to a
scientist. The letter probably tells about some hidden
treasure, but it will have to be decoded. Idgit the Midget
and Dangerous Dan McBoo want the treasure. They catch Mickey
and Goofy and put them in a quite tricky situation including
a cliff, a jar, a rope and a tree. A quite funny episode
actually, although I think it would have looked better in
an action movie. The rest of the story is too simple.
It's difficult to criticise Esteban for his art here,
since I know he can do it much better when he's not drawing
like Paul Murry.
- Uncle Scrroge, D94202, 8+ pages. Don Rosa.
You'll have to wait till you see it yourselves ;-)
A wonderful story.
- Goofy, KF 11.28.76, one page.
Jorgen