Hi!
DANIEL:
> Yes, buy this comic for me if you want.
I'll take a look. But what if it's sold out? You'll blame me. So I can't
promise anything, you know.
DAVID:
> A few corrections and supplementary bits of info to the Diamond Previews
> information [...]
Well, I guess the Previews information was correct. I just forgot some
things. So it was my fault. I'm sorry! It will never happen again, I pro-
mise. Anyway, thanks for your corrections.
--Arthur.
Author
Topic: 199510
(299 messages)
Arthur De Wolf
"I can't promise anything" and "Thanks".
Message 31 -
1995-10-04 at 17:40:52
Egil Pettersen
US 9
Message 32 -
1995-10-04 at 17:52:37
Several months ago there was a discussion here on the details Carl
Barks (and Don Rosa) put into their stories, and where they picked
them up. A few of the Norwegian members on this list complained about
the national costumes that Barks used in the story from US 9, "The
lemming with the locket". I have a few (?) comments on this:
That glorious time when Donald first visited Norway in US 9
(reprinted in US 104, US 179 and US 250), is well remembered between
Norwegian Donaldists. Most of you probably remember the story were
Scrooge had to follow a lemming to the Norwegian city "Herringtale"
to catch a lemming that had a locket with the code to his bin around
its neck. Scrooge got the locket back by the help of his nephews and
some Norwegian cheese that the lemming could not resist...
Interesting here is what inspired Barks to draw such exquisitly
beautiful pictures of the Norwegian landscape. In a letter that
Mr.Barks wrote to me on March 21st 1978, he said among other things:
"I lived four years in Minneapolis, which is the Norwegian capital
of America, and I was introduced to such Norwegian stapes as
lutefisk, leftse (?) and of course gjetost."
So Barks knew something about Norway before he started research. Then
in "National Geographic" from August 1954 there is an article
starting on page 153, "Stop-and-Go Sail Around South Norway". This
article has a lot of pictures that Barks must have used when he made
US 9, published a year later. F.I, the half-page were the
ducks look at the blanket of lemmings moving towards the sea,
is found at National Geographic page 162, a picture from Lysefjorden.
And-the national costumes Barks used on page 12 in his story is a mix
of two children in Hardanger costumes from National Geographic page
161, and two Setesdal costumes from page 176 in the same magazine. I
wish I had a scanner so I could show you the pictures.
BTW, for Carl Barks? birthday in 78 a friend and I sent him some
Norwegian cheese, as cheese is part of the lemming-story. First he
thought it to be raindeer-cheese, as there was a picture of a
raindeer on the cheese. Later he told me he really liked the cheese
and he even remembered the gift when I gave him some more when he
visited Norway during his European trip.
Erik Horthe
address erik at telepost.no
Barks (and Don Rosa) put into their stories, and where they picked
them up. A few of the Norwegian members on this list complained about
the national costumes that Barks used in the story from US 9, "The
lemming with the locket". I have a few (?) comments on this:
That glorious time when Donald first visited Norway in US 9
(reprinted in US 104, US 179 and US 250), is well remembered between
Norwegian Donaldists. Most of you probably remember the story were
Scrooge had to follow a lemming to the Norwegian city "Herringtale"
to catch a lemming that had a locket with the code to his bin around
its neck. Scrooge got the locket back by the help of his nephews and
some Norwegian cheese that the lemming could not resist...
Interesting here is what inspired Barks to draw such exquisitly
beautiful pictures of the Norwegian landscape. In a letter that
Mr.Barks wrote to me on March 21st 1978, he said among other things:
"I lived four years in Minneapolis, which is the Norwegian capital
of America, and I was introduced to such Norwegian stapes as
lutefisk, leftse (?) and of course gjetost."
So Barks knew something about Norway before he started research. Then
in "National Geographic" from August 1954 there is an article
starting on page 153, "Stop-and-Go Sail Around South Norway". This
article has a lot of pictures that Barks must have used when he made
US 9, published a year later. F.I, the half-page were the
ducks look at the blanket of lemmings moving towards the sea,
is found at National Geographic page 162, a picture from Lysefjorden.
And-the national costumes Barks used on page 12 in his story is a mix
of two children in Hardanger costumes from National Geographic page
161, and two Setesdal costumes from page 176 in the same magazine. I
wish I had a scanner so I could show you the pictures.
BTW, for Carl Barks? birthday in 78 a friend and I sent him some
Norwegian cheese, as cheese is part of the lemming-story. First he
thought it to be raindeer-cheese, as there was a picture of a
raindeer on the cheese. Later he told me he really liked the cheese
and he even remembered the gift when I gave him some more when he
visited Norway during his European trip.
Erik Horthe
address erik at telepost.no
Daniel Van Eijmeren
April 1, lemmings and indexes
Message 33 -
1995-10-04 at 17:56:19
KATHY & KNUT:
KF: Oog. Which means I can't conjur up the story that went with the
KF: quote which of course would make it easier for me even to find it.
KH: Well, it's a little difficult to guarantee anything when I mostly
KH: read norwegian translations, but it sounds very much like you're
KH: talking about the "April fools" story where the nephews try to
KH: fool DD by putting wallets in front of him on his way to go
KH: fishing.
I looked in the CBL and you're right! On the last panel of page 4,
one of the nephews says: "He'll be along soon, smug and sassy and
shakin' hands with himself!"
Brings up another question, which I have since I saw the English
version of the story: Is fooling each other on 1 April a worldwide
tradition?
I used to think it was typical Dutch...
KNUT & EGIL:
KH: Those scenes with the "lemming blanket" going into the sea is
KH: _not_ very realistic. I point this out because the "lemming
KH: suicide"-myth this is based on is one of those myths I know
KH: quite many still believe in. (...) If anyone wants more details
KH: or wants to protest against the correctness, I will dig deeper
KH: into the matter some day.
Yes, I like to know more about it, because Egil said today:
EP: The half-page were the ducks look at the blanket of lemmings
EP: moving towards the sea, is found at National Geographic page 162,
EP: a picture from Lysefjorden.
I also heard (and believed) the lemming-suicide story. Can you tell
me the real story about it, and were is this suicide-story based on?
RUNE:
> I`m a boy from Norway and I`m trying to get an American comic
> index,soo if anyone have one,I`d like to buy it.. Please answer:)
Well, here is my answer.
We have *lots* of indexes of Disney-comics here on the club, which
can be seen on the ftp-side. Maybe someone can tell you how to get
there? (You need a direct-access for it, which I haven't).
Greetings,
--- Daniel
KF: Oog. Which means I can't conjur up the story that went with the
KF: quote which of course would make it easier for me even to find it.
KH: Well, it's a little difficult to guarantee anything when I mostly
KH: read norwegian translations, but it sounds very much like you're
KH: talking about the "April fools" story where the nephews try to
KH: fool DD by putting wallets in front of him on his way to go
KH: fishing.
I looked in the CBL and you're right! On the last panel of page 4,
one of the nephews says: "He'll be along soon, smug and sassy and
shakin' hands with himself!"
Brings up another question, which I have since I saw the English
version of the story: Is fooling each other on 1 April a worldwide
tradition?
I used to think it was typical Dutch...
KNUT & EGIL:
KH: Those scenes with the "lemming blanket" going into the sea is
KH: _not_ very realistic. I point this out because the "lemming
KH: suicide"-myth this is based on is one of those myths I know
KH: quite many still believe in. (...) If anyone wants more details
KH: or wants to protest against the correctness, I will dig deeper
KH: into the matter some day.
Yes, I like to know more about it, because Egil said today:
EP: The half-page were the ducks look at the blanket of lemmings
EP: moving towards the sea, is found at National Geographic page 162,
EP: a picture from Lysefjorden.
I also heard (and believed) the lemming-suicide story. Can you tell
me the real story about it, and were is this suicide-story based on?
RUNE:
> I`m a boy from Norway and I`m trying to get an American comic
> index,soo if anyone have one,I`d like to buy it.. Please answer:)
Well, here is my answer.
We have *lots* of indexes of Disney-comics here on the club, which
can be seen on the ftp-side. Maybe someone can tell you how to get
there? (You need a direct-access for it, which I haven't).
Greetings,
--- Daniel
Rune Gudmundsen
Comics index
Message 34 -
1995-10-04 at 18:19:42
Hey everyone.
I`m a boy from Norway and I`m trying to get an American comicindex,soo if
anyone have one,I`d like to buy it..
Please answer:)
my adress is:Rune Gudmundse
Taugt.12
4014 Stavanger
Norway
-Rune:)
I`m a boy from Norway and I`m trying to get an American comicindex,soo if
anyone have one,I`d like to buy it..
Please answer:)
my adress is:Rune Gudmundse
Taugt.12
4014 Stavanger
Norway
-Rune:)
Knut Hunstad
April 1, lemmings and indexes
Message 35 -
1995-10-04 at 18:32:03
Hi!
>Brings up another question, which I have since I saw the English
>version of the story: Is fooling each other on 1 April a worldwide
>tradition?
>
>I used to think it was typical Dutch...
No, it's quite worldwide, at least "westernworldwide". I don't know if it's
a tradition in Asia e.g.?
>Yes, I like to know more about it, because Egil said today:
>
>EP: The half-page were the ducks look at the blanket of lemmings
>EP: moving towards the sea, is found at National Geographic page 162,
>EP: a picture from Lysefjorden.
>
>I also heard (and believed) the lemming-suicide story. Can you tell
>me the real story about it, and were is this suicide-story based on?
Well, I tried to explain the little I know about it in my previous message.
I am not sure if EP really meant that the picture in NG showed the lemmings
moving towards the sea (which would ruin my whole assumption that this is
not true, I guess!). _I_ thought he meant to say that Barks copied the
geography from that picture and added lemmings himself. So EP, who is right?
And does that article say anything about lemmings? If noone with some more
detailed knowledge responds to this within some days, I'll do some more
thourough research...
Knut
>Brings up another question, which I have since I saw the English
>version of the story: Is fooling each other on 1 April a worldwide
>tradition?
>
>I used to think it was typical Dutch...
No, it's quite worldwide, at least "westernworldwide". I don't know if it's
a tradition in Asia e.g.?
>Yes, I like to know more about it, because Egil said today:
>
>EP: The half-page were the ducks look at the blanket of lemmings
>EP: moving towards the sea, is found at National Geographic page 162,
>EP: a picture from Lysefjorden.
>
>I also heard (and believed) the lemming-suicide story. Can you tell
>me the real story about it, and were is this suicide-story based on?
Well, I tried to explain the little I know about it in my previous message.
I am not sure if EP really meant that the picture in NG showed the lemmings
moving towards the sea (which would ruin my whole assumption that this is
not true, I guess!). _I_ thought he meant to say that Barks copied the
geography from that picture and added lemmings himself. So EP, who is right?
And does that article say anything about lemmings? If noone with some more
detailed knowledge responds to this within some days, I'll do some more
thourough research...
Knut
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1995-10-04 at 19:06:06
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Per Starback
Todd Klein is here
Message 37 -
1995-10-04 at 19:09:49
Probably I haven't been consistent about this, but I'd like to
introduce the pros when they join the list. Todd Klein joined the
list today. Welcome! In Disney comics circles Todd is best known for
the lettering of Don Rosa's Life of Scrooge series.
(If there are lurking pros out there who feel neglected because I never
introduced you when you joined the list, my apologies.)
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at minsk.docs.uu.se
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
introduce the pros when they join the list. Todd Klein joined the
list today. Welcome! In Disney comics circles Todd is best known for
the lettering of Don Rosa's Life of Scrooge series.
(If there are lurking pros out there who feel neglected because I never
introduced you when you joined the list, my apologies.)
-- "
Per Starback, Uppsala, Sweden. email: starback at minsk.docs.uu.se
"Life is but a gamble! Let flipism chart your ramble!"
Daniel Van Eijmeren
About e-mail adresses and girls
Message 38 -
1995-10-04 at 20:01:11
BO:
> Does Carl Barks have an e-mail address, and in that case what would
> it be?
No, Carl Barks doesn't have an e-mail adress.
But, now you ask it, are there members here who know Carl Barks
personally?
BROR:
> It sounds like a great idea [to have a girl among the Woodchucks]
> for a story in these emancipated times. What do you say Don?
> Could you do "The First Girl Woodchuck" or doesn't it fit in with
> Barks good enough? I can imagine HDL when they're trying to
> cooperate with the first girl in their troupe.
I'd rather like to have the boys and the girls separate from each
other, because we have now very much fun with the rivalries between
the Woodchucks (boys) and the Chickadies (girls).
A famous example of this is Barks' ten-pager WDC 181 in which the
Junior Woodchucks have a contest with the Chickadee Patrol. Just take
a look at that story and you might understand why at least I think
that it's better that the boys and girl should stay separate in
Woodchuck-land: It's more *fun*! ;-)
Greetings,
--- Daniel
"I'm so mad I could chew nails!"
"This letter is an *insult* to all boys!"
"It is an *outrage*!"
(quoted from the first panel of WDC 181)
> Does Carl Barks have an e-mail address, and in that case what would
> it be?
No, Carl Barks doesn't have an e-mail adress.
But, now you ask it, are there members here who know Carl Barks
personally?
BROR:
> It sounds like a great idea [to have a girl among the Woodchucks]
> for a story in these emancipated times. What do you say Don?
> Could you do "The First Girl Woodchuck" or doesn't it fit in with
> Barks good enough? I can imagine HDL when they're trying to
> cooperate with the first girl in their troupe.
I'd rather like to have the boys and the girls separate from each
other, because we have now very much fun with the rivalries between
the Woodchucks (boys) and the Chickadies (girls).
A famous example of this is Barks' ten-pager WDC 181 in which the
Junior Woodchucks have a contest with the Chickadee Patrol. Just take
a look at that story and you might understand why at least I think
that it's better that the boys and girl should stay separate in
Woodchuck-land: It's more *fun*! ;-)
Greetings,
--- Daniel
"I'm so mad I could chew nails!"
"This letter is an *insult* to all boys!"
"It is an *outrage*!"
(quoted from the first panel of WDC 181)
Don Rosa
Disney-comics digest #805.
Message 39 -
1995-10-05 at 06:31:00
KNUT:
I wouldn't say that "The Incredible Shrinking Tightwad" is one of my
more serious studies in physics -- at least, not the way something like
"Cash Flow" or "The Universal Solvent" might have been. Sorta. F'rinstance,
with those latter two I actually had some discussions with scientists and
tried to work out vaguely reasonable pseudo-scientific explanations. Since I
was using Barks' "atom subtractor", I didn't bother to approach the "tIST"
that way. On the other hand, I did think it feasible that a very, very tiny
human might have trouble seeing through air-borne dust or pollution, or just
plain BIG AIR molecules, to see things the size of mountains... and the same
might go for their teeny-weeny ear-drums. At least I knew that nobody would
ever shrink like that, so I can't be proven wrong. However, I was thinking
that it would have taken U$ and DD days to climb that depth gauge -- but I
can't let things like this stand in the way of a story. I like to worry
about scientific accuracy... up to a point. Then it's all's fair. Really,
the stuff I pulled off in "Universal Solvent" wasn't possible either, you
know. I can pick that story apart, as well.
I'm not comparing you to this guy, but I am reminded of an instance
a few years ago when I was on vacation and we were sharing company with a
non-comics fan who said he wanted to read one of my stories. I had a copy of
"Treasure Under Glass" that I loaned him. Later, I asked what he thought,
and he said he didn't like it because it was "too far fetched". This is one
criticism that simply stunned me -- I had no response, I just sorta went
slack-jaw. I felt like shaking the guy and saying, "Well, of COURSE it's
far-fetched! It's a COMIC BOOK! Did you notice those were TALKING DUCKS?"
Anyway, what color is the Maltese Falcon? Are you the same fella who
recently said you hadn't seen "Citizen Kane"? I envy people who have still
to enjoy seeing movies like this for the first time! I wish there were some
classic movies I had yet to see -- I wish I could wipe them from my memory
and see them again for the "first" time. (sigh). Anyway, the Maltese Falcon
was just black. Actually, the one in the movie was a fake... that's why it
was in $crooge's junk closet. No one ever found the real Falcon (unless you
believe that silly comedy sequel called "The Black Bird" made in the 70s).
GEIR:
Yes, "Donna" was hidden 3 times on that cover. I succumbed to a
friend who wanted to give his wife a birthday surprise by having me hide her
name on that cover. That's okay, but I shunta' done it, really -- I guess
there are hoards of Duck fans who might like me to do that for them, and
pretty soon you wouldn't be able to see the cover scene for all the hidden
names. So, I never did that again.
I HAD done it once previously, however. I hid another Duck fan's
last name on my cover to "His Majesty McDuck". See if you can find it. It
was "Bankard".
I wouldn't say that "The Incredible Shrinking Tightwad" is one of my
more serious studies in physics -- at least, not the way something like
"Cash Flow" or "The Universal Solvent" might have been. Sorta. F'rinstance,
with those latter two I actually had some discussions with scientists and
tried to work out vaguely reasonable pseudo-scientific explanations. Since I
was using Barks' "atom subtractor", I didn't bother to approach the "tIST"
that way. On the other hand, I did think it feasible that a very, very tiny
human might have trouble seeing through air-borne dust or pollution, or just
plain BIG AIR molecules, to see things the size of mountains... and the same
might go for their teeny-weeny ear-drums. At least I knew that nobody would
ever shrink like that, so I can't be proven wrong. However, I was thinking
that it would have taken U$ and DD days to climb that depth gauge -- but I
can't let things like this stand in the way of a story. I like to worry
about scientific accuracy... up to a point. Then it's all's fair. Really,
the stuff I pulled off in "Universal Solvent" wasn't possible either, you
know. I can pick that story apart, as well.
I'm not comparing you to this guy, but I am reminded of an instance
a few years ago when I was on vacation and we were sharing company with a
non-comics fan who said he wanted to read one of my stories. I had a copy of
"Treasure Under Glass" that I loaned him. Later, I asked what he thought,
and he said he didn't like it because it was "too far fetched". This is one
criticism that simply stunned me -- I had no response, I just sorta went
slack-jaw. I felt like shaking the guy and saying, "Well, of COURSE it's
far-fetched! It's a COMIC BOOK! Did you notice those were TALKING DUCKS?"
Anyway, what color is the Maltese Falcon? Are you the same fella who
recently said you hadn't seen "Citizen Kane"? I envy people who have still
to enjoy seeing movies like this for the first time! I wish there were some
classic movies I had yet to see -- I wish I could wipe them from my memory
and see them again for the "first" time. (sigh). Anyway, the Maltese Falcon
was just black. Actually, the one in the movie was a fake... that's why it
was in $crooge's junk closet. No one ever found the real Falcon (unless you
believe that silly comedy sequel called "The Black Bird" made in the 70s).
GEIR:
Yes, "Donna" was hidden 3 times on that cover. I succumbed to a
friend who wanted to give his wife a birthday surprise by having me hide her
name on that cover. That's okay, but I shunta' done it, really -- I guess
there are hoards of Duck fans who might like me to do that for them, and
pretty soon you wouldn't be able to see the cover scene for all the hidden
names. So, I never did that again.
I HAD done it once previously, however. I hid another Duck fan's
last name on my cover to "His Majesty McDuck". See if you can find it. It
was "Bankard".
Knut Hunstad
Disney-comics digest #805.
Message 40 -
1995-10-05 at 09:39:31
Hi!
From Don:
> I wouldn't say that "The Incredible Shrinking Tightwad" is one of my
>more serious studies in physics -- at least, not the way something like
>"Cash Flow" or "The Universal Solvent" might have been.
That was exactly my point and nothing else...
>about scientific accuracy... up to a point. Then it's all's fair. Really,
>the stuff I pulled off in "Universal Solvent" wasn't possible either, you
>know. I can pick that story apart, as well.
Of course, that's why I said that it wasn't really too important, it just
seemed (as you say) that the "level of realism" was lower in this story than
the other two. I always find the _best_ stories to be those where one only
has to accept one (or few) major unrealistic things and the rest is then
more or less logical according to that (in the extent this is possible). But
you're right, of course, that realism is quite contradictory in a story
about talking ducks...
I know have read the third part of tIST and it was great! The somewhat slow
second part was more than compensated for by this last part. You had me
ROtFL several times (especially those boxer shorts!) and the way you managed
to pull off the rescue of DD & U$ was also amusingly plausible. And that
last point in the story was almost like a Roald Dahl ending (at least _I_
didn't expect _that_ to happen!)...
In total, a good story with lots of good laughs, but somehow I would have
expected at least U$ to have understood where they were a little sooner...
> Anyway, what color is the Maltese Falcon? Are you the same fella who
>recently said you hadn't seen "Citizen Kane"?
Yup! But that doesn't mean I haven't seen Humpy boy with the Falcon! Only I
couldn't remember what color it was.
>and see them again for the "first" time. (sigh). Anyway, the Maltese Falcon
>was just black. Actually, the one in the movie was a fake... that's why it
>was in $crooge's junk closet. No one ever found the real Falcon (unless you
>believe that silly comedy sequel called "The Black Bird" made in the 70s).
"Real" Falcon? Does that imply the Falcon story is based on some true story
or myth? I thought is was only a myth invented for the movie.
P.S.: I really wish the editors of DD&Co. would have the decency to refrain
from using Ducktales stories in the magazine. Put it into some magazine of
it's own!
Knut
From Don:
> I wouldn't say that "The Incredible Shrinking Tightwad" is one of my
>more serious studies in physics -- at least, not the way something like
>"Cash Flow" or "The Universal Solvent" might have been.
That was exactly my point and nothing else...
>about scientific accuracy... up to a point. Then it's all's fair. Really,
>the stuff I pulled off in "Universal Solvent" wasn't possible either, you
>know. I can pick that story apart, as well.
Of course, that's why I said that it wasn't really too important, it just
seemed (as you say) that the "level of realism" was lower in this story than
the other two. I always find the _best_ stories to be those where one only
has to accept one (or few) major unrealistic things and the rest is then
more or less logical according to that (in the extent this is possible). But
you're right, of course, that realism is quite contradictory in a story
about talking ducks...
I know have read the third part of tIST and it was great! The somewhat slow
second part was more than compensated for by this last part. You had me
ROtFL several times (especially those boxer shorts!) and the way you managed
to pull off the rescue of DD & U$ was also amusingly plausible. And that
last point in the story was almost like a Roald Dahl ending (at least _I_
didn't expect _that_ to happen!)...
In total, a good story with lots of good laughs, but somehow I would have
expected at least U$ to have understood where they were a little sooner...
> Anyway, what color is the Maltese Falcon? Are you the same fella who
>recently said you hadn't seen "Citizen Kane"?
Yup! But that doesn't mean I haven't seen Humpy boy with the Falcon! Only I
couldn't remember what color it was.
>and see them again for the "first" time. (sigh). Anyway, the Maltese Falcon
>was just black. Actually, the one in the movie was a fake... that's why it
>was in $crooge's junk closet. No one ever found the real Falcon (unless you
>believe that silly comedy sequel called "The Black Bird" made in the 70s).
"Real" Falcon? Does that imply the Falcon story is based on some true story
or myth? I thought is was only a myth invented for the movie.
P.S.: I really wish the editors of DD&Co. would have the decency to refrain
from using Ducktales stories in the magazine. Put it into some magazine of
it's own!
Knut
Knut Hunstad
US 9
Message 41 -
1995-10-05 at 09:48:47
Hi again!
>messages. I?m Erik Horthe, and the E-mail-adress is egil at telepost.no
Sorry, should have seen that...
>about the myth of the lemming-suicide. However, there is another myth
>about lemmings. Can you say a little about that, Knut?
You mean the exploding thing? OK! It is "well known" in Norway that a
lemming can get so angry that it simply explodes! I'm not sure if this is
correct, but I think I once saw an explanation saying that this myth might
have been triggered by the fact (?) that a lemming _can_ be so upset by
beeing disturbed that it simply dies of a heart attack...
But I'm really on thin ice here, so don't bet on it! I still plan to check
up on this...
P.S.: Those who have tried the computer game "Lemmings" (which is annoyingly
addictive, BTW) have seen that lemmings blowing up is a quite important part
of the game...
Knut
>messages. I?m Erik Horthe, and the E-mail-adress is egil at telepost.no
Sorry, should have seen that...
>about the myth of the lemming-suicide. However, there is another myth
>about lemmings. Can you say a little about that, Knut?
You mean the exploding thing? OK! It is "well known" in Norway that a
lemming can get so angry that it simply explodes! I'm not sure if this is
correct, but I think I once saw an explanation saying that this myth might
have been triggered by the fact (?) that a lemming _can_ be so upset by
beeing disturbed that it simply dies of a heart attack...
But I'm really on thin ice here, so don't bet on it! I still plan to check
up on this...
P.S.: Those who have tried the computer game "Lemmings" (which is annoyingly
addictive, BTW) have seen that lemmings blowing up is a quite important part
of the game...
Knut
Knut Hunstad
US9
Message 42 -
1995-10-05 at 09:57:01
Sorry, I messed up again! Eudora still doesn't grab it when I put a "From
Don" with a colon behind in my message. I'll send it once more...
Hi!
Don wrote,
>I wouldn't say that "The Incredible Shrinking Tightwad" is one of my
>more serious studies in physics -- at least, not the way something like
>"Cash Flow" or "The Universal Solvent" might have been. Sorta. F'rinstance,
That was exactly my point and nothing else...
>about scientific accuracy... up to a point. Then it's all's fair. Really,
>the stuff I pulled off in "Universal Solvent" wasn't possible either, you
>know. I can pick that story apart, as well.
Of course, that's why I said that it wasn't really too important, it just
seemed (as you say) that the "level of realism" was lower in this story than
the other two. I always find the _best_ stories to be those where one only
has to accept one (or few) major unrealistic things and the rest is then
more or less logical according to that (in the extent this is possible). But
you're right, of course, that realism is quite contradictory in a story
about talking ducks...
I know have read the third part of tIST and it was great! The somewhat slow
second part was more than compensated for by this last part. You had me
ROtFL several times (especially those boxer shorts!) and the way you managed
to pull off the rescue of DD & U$ was also amusingly plausible. And that
last point in the story was almost like a Roald Dahl ending (at least _I_
didn't expect _that_ to happen!)...
In total, a good story with lots of good laughs, but somehow I would have
expected at least U$ to have understood where they were a little sooner...
> Anyway, what color is the Maltese Falcon? Are you the same fella who
>recently said you hadn't seen "Citizen Kane"?
Yup! But that doesn't mean I haven't seen Humpy boy with the Falcon! Only I
couldn't remember what color it was.
>and see them again for the "first" time. (sigh). Anyway, the Maltese Falcon
>was just black. Actually, the one in the movie was a fake... that's why it
>was in $crooge's junk closet. No one ever found the real Falcon (unless you
>believe that silly comedy sequel called "The Black Bird" made in the 70s).
"Real" Falcon? Does that imply the Falcon story is based on some true story
or myth? I thought is was only a myth invented for the movie.
P.S.: I really wish the editors of DD&Co. would have the decency to refrain
from using Ducktales stories in the magazine. Put it into some magazine of
it's own!
Knut
Don" with a colon behind in my message. I'll send it once more...
Hi!
Don wrote,
>I wouldn't say that "The Incredible Shrinking Tightwad" is one of my
>more serious studies in physics -- at least, not the way something like
>"Cash Flow" or "The Universal Solvent" might have been. Sorta. F'rinstance,
That was exactly my point and nothing else...
>about scientific accuracy... up to a point. Then it's all's fair. Really,
>the stuff I pulled off in "Universal Solvent" wasn't possible either, you
>know. I can pick that story apart, as well.
Of course, that's why I said that it wasn't really too important, it just
seemed (as you say) that the "level of realism" was lower in this story than
the other two. I always find the _best_ stories to be those where one only
has to accept one (or few) major unrealistic things and the rest is then
more or less logical according to that (in the extent this is possible). But
you're right, of course, that realism is quite contradictory in a story
about talking ducks...
I know have read the third part of tIST and it was great! The somewhat slow
second part was more than compensated for by this last part. You had me
ROtFL several times (especially those boxer shorts!) and the way you managed
to pull off the rescue of DD & U$ was also amusingly plausible. And that
last point in the story was almost like a Roald Dahl ending (at least _I_
didn't expect _that_ to happen!)...
In total, a good story with lots of good laughs, but somehow I would have
expected at least U$ to have understood where they were a little sooner...
> Anyway, what color is the Maltese Falcon? Are you the same fella who
>recently said you hadn't seen "Citizen Kane"?
Yup! But that doesn't mean I haven't seen Humpy boy with the Falcon! Only I
couldn't remember what color it was.
>and see them again for the "first" time. (sigh). Anyway, the Maltese Falcon
>was just black. Actually, the one in the movie was a fake... that's why it
>was in $crooge's junk closet. No one ever found the real Falcon (unless you
>believe that silly comedy sequel called "The Black Bird" made in the 70s).
"Real" Falcon? Does that imply the Falcon story is based on some true story
or myth? I thought is was only a myth invented for the movie.
P.S.: I really wish the editors of DD&Co. would have the decency to refrain
from using Ducktales stories in the magazine. Put it into some magazine of
it's own!
Knut
Bror Hellman
April 1, lemmings and indexes
Message 43 -
1995-10-05 at 15:54:02
On Wed, 4 Oct 1995, Daniel van Eijmeren wrote:
> Brings up another question, which I have since I saw the English
> version of the story: Is fooling each other on 1 April a worldwide
> tradition?
>
> I used to think it was typical Dutch...
It's very thoroughly anchored in Sweden... When I was small we used to
have these nursery rhymes like: "April, april, din dumma sill, jag kan
lura dig vart jag vill." Which (roughly) translates into: "April, april,
you stupid herring, I can fool you (to go) where *I* want."
An every april 1st all the newspapers and all the television news-programs
will include at least one attempt to fool you.
Classical foolings from the Swedish history of April 1st:
Put a ladies stocking over your black and white TV to turn it into colour.
How to convert a coffee-machine into a vodka-machine...
The whole kingdom of Denmark sold to Norwegian oil-sheik. (This even
fooled a Norwegian news-paper...) They even suggested that he paid it all
in herring and cheese!
--
Steamboat Willie
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> Brings up another question, which I have since I saw the English
> version of the story: Is fooling each other on 1 April a worldwide
> tradition?
>
> I used to think it was typical Dutch...
It's very thoroughly anchored in Sweden... When I was small we used to
have these nursery rhymes like: "April, april, din dumma sill, jag kan
lura dig vart jag vill." Which (roughly) translates into: "April, april,
you stupid herring, I can fool you (to go) where *I* want."
An every april 1st all the newspapers and all the television news-programs
will include at least one attempt to fool you.
Classical foolings from the Swedish history of April 1st:
Put a ladies stocking over your black and white TV to turn it into colour.
How to convert a coffee-machine into a vodka-machine...
The whole kingdom of Denmark sold to Norwegian oil-sheik. (This even
fooled a Norwegian news-paper...) They even suggested that he paid it all
in herring and cheese!
--
Steamboat Willie
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They say that you should never introduce a rope golem to a succubus.
-- A fortune cookie in the game NetHack
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Internet: hellman at proxxi.uf.se, UFNet(ftn): hellman at 54:100/106.0
AnimeNet European Coordinator 401:3000/0.0
Bror Hellman
Girl Jr. Woodchucks (fwd)
Message 44 -
1995-10-05 at 16:10:32
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 20:52:42 -0400
From: McStyer at aol.com
Subject: Re: Girl Jr. Woodchucks
I seem to remember there being some female JW's in the short-lived DuckTales
comic book that Disney Comics published a few years back. If anyone finds
anything else on this I would appreiciate it.
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 1995 20:52:42 -0400
From: McStyer at aol.com
Subject: Re: Girl Jr. Woodchucks
I seem to remember there being some female JW's in the short-lived DuckTales
comic book that Disney Comics published a few years back. If anyone finds
anything else on this I would appreiciate it.
Egil Pettersen
US 9
Message 45 -
1995-10-05 at 17:44:55
Hi.
First of all, I am not Egil Pettersen. That is the name of the owner
of the machine I?m working on, so his name comes out on all my
messages. I?m Erik Horthe, and the E-mail-adress is egil at telepost.no
OK-Back to lemmings. The article in National Geographic tells about
an American couple who sails the south-coast of Norway and shows
pictures they took during their journey. Knut is right when he thinks
that Carl Barks copied pictures from the magazine and added lemmings
here and there. As a matter of fact, he even added a couple of ducks,
and they were not in the original article either. The point is he
used the article as research, and used it in his way. F.i., the
houses in "Herringtale" in US 9 are similar to houses in Arendal in
National Geographic, but they are not copied.
Lemmings are not mentioned in the article, but Carl Barks told me he
had heard about them when he lived in Minneapolis. Knut explained
about the myth of the lemming-suicide. However, there is another myth
about lemmings. Can you say a little about that, Knut?
Erik (not Egil)
First of all, I am not Egil Pettersen. That is the name of the owner
of the machine I?m working on, so his name comes out on all my
messages. I?m Erik Horthe, and the E-mail-adress is egil at telepost.no
OK-Back to lemmings. The article in National Geographic tells about
an American couple who sails the south-coast of Norway and shows
pictures they took during their journey. Knut is right when he thinks
that Carl Barks copied pictures from the magazine and added lemmings
here and there. As a matter of fact, he even added a couple of ducks,
and they were not in the original article either. The point is he
used the article as research, and used it in his way. F.i., the
houses in "Herringtale" in US 9 are similar to houses in Arendal in
National Geographic, but they are not copied.
Lemmings are not mentioned in the article, but Carl Barks told me he
had heard about them when he lived in Minneapolis. Knut explained
about the myth of the lemming-suicide. However, there is another myth
about lemmings. Can you say a little about that, Knut?
Erik (not Egil)